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Esther
03-07-2007, 06:43 PM
Genesis Outline

Statistics: 1st book of the Bible; 50 chapters, 1,533 verses; 38,267 words; 1,156 verses beginning with and: 1,385 verses of history; 148 questions; 56 prophecies; 123 verses of fulfilled prophecy; 23 verses of unfulfilled prophecy; shortest chapter, 16: longest, 24; 16th chapter has 16 verses; 32nd has 32 verses, 5 chapters have 34 verses; 4 have 22, 24 and 32 each; 106 commands; 71 promises; 326 predictions. [source Dake Bible]

The title Genesis, which is Greek, means “origin,” and the first word in the Hebrew of Genesis is translated “in the beginning” – words which indicate both the scope and the limits of the book. It tells us the beginning of everything except God. Another thing to notice is that it tells only of beginnings. There is no finality here. Upon its truths all the future revelation of God to man is built up.

Satan appears to have special enmity for the book of Genesis. No wonder the Adversary has bent his attacks upon it. It exposes him as the enemy of God and the deceiver of the human race; it foretells his destruction; it depicts his doom (Genesis 3).

Without Genesis our knowledge of a creating God would be pitifully limited; we would be woefully ignorant of the beginnings of our universe.

Genesis is the book of beginnings:
1. the beginning of the world – 1:1-25
2. the beginning of the human race – 1:26-2:25
3. the beginning of sin in the world – 3:1-7
4. the beginning of the promise of redemption – 3:8-24
5. the beginning of family life—4: 1-15
6. the beginning of the nations of the world – 10, 11
7. the beginning of the Hebrew race – 12-50

Adam began with God and fell through disobedience—3:1-24
Abel began with God by the blood of sacrifice – 4:4
Noah began with God by way of the ark – 6:8, 14,22
Abraham began with God when he built altars—12:8
These all made new beginnings for the race.
Genesis is the record of the beginnings of all these things.

Genesis begins with “God” but ends “in a coffin.” This book is a history of man’s failure. But we find that God meets every failure of man. He is a glorious Saviour. We find that where sin abounded, grace did much more abound (Romans 5:20)

Genesis gives us at least 2,000 years of record. It is not entirely history; it is a spiritual interpretation of history. In two chapters God flashes on the wall an account of the creation of the world and of man. From there on we see the story of redemption. God is bringing lost man back to Himself.

We have noted satan’s reasons for attacking this majestic book. Its authorship by Moses, its scientific accuracy, and its literal testimony to human sin as deliberate disobedience to God have all been bitterly assailed. The Word of God, however, definitely declares Genesis to be one of the living oracles delivered to Moses. To its infallible truth and its testimony to the Messiah, our Lord Jesus set His seal. (John 5:46-47)

Where Genesis goes, a divine Creator, a divine creation, a divinely promised Redeemer, and a divinely inspired Bible must also go. Around its sacred pages is the protection of the Holy Spirit of God who inspired its words. If there were more study of Genesis instead of so much argument about it, its truth would be clearer. Many origins are recorded in the first eleven chapters; natural universe, human life, sin, death, redemption, civilization, nations, and languages.

The remainder of the book from Genesis 12 deals with the beginnings of the Hebrew race, first in its founding through Abraham, then in its subsequent development and history through the great figures of Isaac, Jacob and Joseph. This great Hebrew nation was founded with a definite purpose that through it the whole world should be blessed.

God promised Abraham, a believer in Him, that his descendants:
1. Should inherit the land of Canaan (Genesis 12:1-3)
2. Should become a great nation
3. Through them all nations should be blessed

God repeated these promises to Isaac and Jacob (Genesis 26:1-5; 28:13-15).

Seven Great Names and Messages are:

1. Bow with Abel at the cross of the slain lamb.
2. Catch step with Enoch and walk with God.
3. Believe God and launch out with Noah on God’s waters.
4. Go forth with Abraham in faith.
5. Dig wells with Isaac and get down to divine resources.
6. Climb ladders with Jacob and see God.
7. Be true like Joseph and live with God.

Genesis answers the great questions of the soul:

1. The eternity of God
2. Where did man come from?
3. Whence came sin?
4. How can sinful man get back to God (Abel’s sacrifice)?
5. How can man please God (Abraham faith)?
6. How can we have power with God and man (Jacob’s surrender)?

There are three words which also might give us the outline of Genesis:

1. Generation – In the beginning God (1:1)
2. Degeneration – Now the serpent (3:1)
3. Regeneration—Now the Lord (12:1)

Genesis is the record of human failure, first in an ideal environment (Eden), then under the rule of conscience (from the fall to the deluge), and finally under patriarchal rule (Noah to Joseph). In every case of human failure, however, God met man’s need with marvelous promises of sovereign grace. It is therefore fitting that the Bible’s first book should show us the failure of man under every condition met by the salvation of God.

Hints of the Messiah:

Remember, Jesus Christ is the center of the Bible. He is somewhere on every page. In Genesis we see Him in type and prophecy in:

1. Seed of woman –3:15
2. Jacob’s ladder—28:12
3. Judah’s scepter—49:10
4. The entrance into the ark of safety – 7:1,7
5. The offering up of Isaac –22:1-24
6. Joseph lifted form pit to throne—37:28; 41:41-44.

The Patriarchal period

The period of the patriarchs is the groundwork and basis of all history. It covers the time from Adam to Moses. In consequence of the failures on the part of men during this early period, God called out an individual. He put aside the race and called a man, Abraham, who was to become the father of the Hebrew nation. We enter into this period in Genesis 12.

There are five patriarchal fathers – Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph and Job—for the book of Job must be put after this book of Genesis and before the book of Exodus. Job certainly lived before Moses and we read of Moses in Exodus 2.

God called out Abraham and made a covenant with him, knows as the Abrahamic Covenant. Be familiar with this covenant (Genesis 12:1-3). If you are not, the whole study of the chosen people (in fact, the whole Old Testament) will have little meaning. God repeated that covenant to Abraham’s son, Isaac, and again to his grandson, Jacob (Genesis 26:1-5; 28:13-15). He repeated it to no one else.

These three, therefore, are the covenant fathers, and that is why you read in Scripture I am the God of they fathers, the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob (Acts 7:32). He never adds anyone else. What is the covenant (Genesis 12:1-3; 26:1-5; 28:13-15)?

From family to nation

A very large portion of the story of Genesis is devoted to Joseph (Genesis 37-48). Why? Because Joseph is the link between the family and the nation. UP to the time of Joseph it is a family, the family of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Some seventy souls are found at the end of the book of Genesis, constituting the family of Jacob. Read about this family and the blessings that Jacob gave to each of his sons in Genesis 49>

Joseph is a character presented without fault—not that he had no faults, but his faults are not recorded. He was a man of flesh and blood like us. God honored him, for there are at least 130 parallels between the life of Joseph and the life of Jesus. He is therefore the messianic patriarch, the patriarch who reflected the Christ Himself.

The author of Genesis

The age-long Hebrew and Christian position is that Moses, guided by the Spirit of God, wrote Genesis. The book closes something like three hundred years before Moses was born. Moses could have received his information only by direct revelation from God or from historical records to which he had access that has been handed down from his forefathers. See what Jesus said about Moses (Luke 24:27; John 7:19).

Every year there are being dug up in Egypt and Israel evidences of writing in Moses’ day and of the historical truth of what is recorded in the Pentateuch. Moses was educated in the palace of Pharaoh and was learned in all the wisdom of the Egyptians (Acts 7:22), which included the literary profession. Moses did make use of writing (Exodus 34:27; Numbers 17:2; Deuteronomy 6:9; 234:1,3; Joshua 8:32).
[ Source: What the Bible is All About]

...More to come later...

This thread will be moved to the library after we complete this study. I hope all will join in and I look forward to learning from the many astute scholars among us.

Esther
03-08-2007, 08:09 AM
Ok, guys were is your input?

Ferd
03-08-2007, 08:23 AM
dont have a lot of time but 3 things,

1. in the second paragraph you said "The title Genisis which is green..." what did you mean by that?

2. you said that Genisis is the beginning of everything except God. I think it is more accurate to say, Genisis is the beginning of everything here on earth.

3. You said Abraham began with God when he built altars—12:8
I think it would be better to say that Abraham began with God by stepping out in faith. Gen 12:4

Esther
03-08-2007, 08:37 AM
dont have a lot of time but 3 things,

1. in the second paragraph you said "The title Genisis which is green..." what did you mean by that?

2. you said that Genisis is the beginning of everything except God. I think it is more accurate to say, Genisis is the beginning of everything here on earth.

3. You said Abraham began with God when he built altars—12:8
I think it would be better to say that Abraham began with God by stepping out in faith. Gen 12:4

Oops typo, thanks Ferd for your input. I can't take credit for this, I took it from "What the Bible is all about".

She made another comment I am expecting some comments on.

It should read Greek not Green, I will correct.

Esther
03-08-2007, 02:06 PM
bump off the second page.

You need to slow down on the posting here. ;)

Esther
03-09-2007, 10:22 AM
I don't know what happened to all the folks who said they wanted to participate in this????

Anyway, here is a few more things.

Creation (Geneses 1-2)

As the book begins we see these words untarnished by the ages, In the beginning God creasted the heaven and the earth. In these few simple words we have the Bible declaration of the origin of this material universe. God called all things into being by the word of His power. He spoke and worlds were framed (Hebrews 11:3).

Know this, God created man in His own image to have fellowship with Himself. Man cut himself off from God by sin. It is only when sin is removed that we can have fellowship again. This is why Jesus Christ came to this earth: that He might bare our sins in His own body on the tree ( 1Pet 2:24). Read in 1 John how sin keeps us not only from fellowship with God but with one another. First John 1:9 tells us what we can do to have a restored fellowship. [Source: What's the Bible all about]

More later...

MrsMcD
03-09-2007, 11:02 AM
Doesn't the hebrew or greek say "In a beginning" not "In the beginning?" I don't recall where I heard this.

Esther
03-09-2007, 11:28 AM
Doesn't the hebrew or greek say "In a beginning" not "In the beginning?" I don't recall where I heard this.

Never heard that before.

Ron
03-09-2007, 11:32 AM
I don't know what happened to all the folks who said they wanted to participate in this????

Anyway, here is a few more things.

Creation (Geneses 1-2)

As the book begins we see these words untarnished by the ages, In the beginning God creasted the heaven and the earth. In these few simple words we have the Bible declaration of the origin of this material universe. God called all things into being by the word of His power. He spoke and worlds were framed (Hebrews 11:3).

Know this, God created man in His own image to have fellowship with Himself. Man cut himself off from God by sin. It is only when sin is removed that we can have fellowship again. This is why Jesus Christ came to this earth: that He might bare our sins in His own body on the tree ( 1Pet 2:24). Read in 1 John how sin keeps us not only from fellowship with God but with one another. First John 1:9 tells us what we can do to have a restored fellowship.

More later...

It also says, "In the beginning God created.
No debate, just a statement of fact that Elohim created it.

What beginning? The beginning as a reference point for God's relationship with his creation.

Just some thoughts.

Esther
03-09-2007, 12:35 PM
It also says, "In the beginning God created.
No debate, just a statement of fact that Elohim created it.

What beginning? The beginning as a reference point for God's relationship with his creation.

Just some thoughts.

It's hard for us to imagine not having a beginning or an ending. But as a child I always wondered where did God come from, how did He get here, who created Him. :)

Esther
03-12-2007, 02:41 PM
The police officer that escorted me this morning to my work location asked me a question. He is Catholic, so this question sort of surprised me.

He said someone told him the apple/or fruit that Eve ate was not a fruit but sexual relations with the serpent.

I told him that sounded like the serpent seed doctrine that the Branhamites teach.

I told him the scripture said they ate of the fruit of the tree and that is what they did.

How would you have answered?

AGAPE
03-12-2007, 02:51 PM
SAME

Esther
03-13-2007, 09:08 AM
Ok, where are all the folks that said they wanted this study?

Where is your input???

Ron
03-16-2007, 01:03 PM
Do you think that Job was a contemporary of Abraham, and does that place him in the Book of Genesis (time wise)?

Esther
03-17-2007, 02:26 PM
Do you think that Job was a contemporary of Abraham, and does that place him in the Book of Genesis (time wise)?

I had never thought about that before to be honest. I think it is interesting.

It would be good if we could get some bible scholars to come over and answer that question.

Esther
03-21-2007, 09:29 AM
Here is the thread you were looking for. I moved it out of the Library for awhile.

Please post your thoughts.

Scott Hutchinson
03-21-2007, 11:35 AM
One thing about Genesis is that alot of the symbols in Genesis are also in the rest of the Bible.The law of first mention comes into play here.

TRIPLE E
03-21-2007, 11:45 AM
I like Warren Wiersbe’s four point summary of Genesis.

First of all, he noted that:

It is a book of beginnings: creation; human• history, including marriage; sin and death; the promise of the Redeemer; human civilization; and the Jewish nation. Things that start in Genesis are carried through the Bible and are fulfilled in the book of Revelation.

It is a• book of begetting, describing the family tree from Adam to the founding of the nation of Israel. Ten different genealogies are recorded in Genesis. The account focuses on six persons and their families: Adam; Noah; Abraham; Isaac; Jacob; and Joseph. The questions of marriage and family are answered in the pages of Genesis.

It is a book of believing. Noah believed God and built an ark.• Abraham believed God and left home for the Promised Land. Abraham and Sarah believed God, and He gave them a son in their old age. God gave His promises and then acted on behalf of those who trusted Him, just as He does today. And so the issues of faith and obedience are opened to us in Genesis.

It is a book• of becoming. God patiently worked with His people to make them what He wanted them to be. They failed Him often, but God did not give up on them. He is still the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and He can accomplish in your life all that He has planned for you. The practical steps to becoming vibrant, complete people of God are also found within the pages of Genesis.

TRIPLE E
03-21-2007, 11:54 AM
Concerning the book of Job-he no doubt was a contemporary with Abraham as his life span seems to fit that of the other patriarchs living at that time.The book of Job is probably the oldest book in the Bible. It contains more references to creation, the Flood and other primeval events than any book of the Bible except Genesis, and provides more insight into the age-long conflict between God and Satan than almost any other book. Remarkably, it also seems to contain more modern scientific insights than any other book of the Bible.

TRIPLE E
03-21-2007, 12:16 PM
WHY WAS THE BOOK OF GENESIS WRITTEN?

The Historical Purpose

To Teach the Origin of the Universe
Answers: Where did this world come from?

To Teach the Origin of Life

From the 1st chapter we will also discover the origin of all life: plant and animal. We can find the beginnings of the minnow in the ocean as well as the eagle of the air. We can discover the beginnings of the microscopic one-cell ameba or the monsterous dinosaurs that walked in the past.

To Teach the Origin of Mankind (1:26-28; 2)
Answers: Where did I come from?


To Teach the Origin of Marriage (2:23-24)
Answers: Is Marriage really all that important?

To Teach the Origin of Evil (3)
Answers: Where did all the problems come from?

To Teach the Origin of Languages and Cultures? (11)
Answers: Why are people so different?


To Teach the Origin of a Chosen People (12f)
Answers: What is all the fuss over Israel

TRIPLE E
03-21-2007, 12:30 PM
The Doctrinal Purpose of Genesis

To Teach God is the Sovereign Creator

To Teach God is a Personal God
-desires and seeks out relationship with man

To Teach the Justice of God
-rewarder of those who obey (Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham)
-punisher of those who walk in disobedience
(Adam and Eve, Cain, people of Noah’s generation)

To Teach the Grace and Mercy of God

To Teach the Faithfulness of God

In Genesis we discover that God is a covenant making and covenant keeping God (covenants with Noah, with Abraham, Jacob)

To Teach the Redemption of God

God has a plan to redeem mankind from the penalty of their sins. We can find the blood of Jesus Christ flowing throughout the first book of the Bible
*from the Garden of Eden (animal slain for covering to seed of woman crushing the head of the serpent)
*to the Ark of Noah (type of Christ)
*to the Ram sacrificed as a substitute for Isaac
*to Joseph

TRIPLE E
03-21-2007, 12:39 PM
WHY IS THE STUDY OF THE BOOK OF GENESIS IMPORTANT?

To Know Who You Are You Must Know Where You Came From

To Know Your Purpose You Must First Know Who You Are

To Know Where You are Going You Must First Know Your Purpose

TRIPLE E
03-21-2007, 12:49 PM
The Book of Genesis and the Rest of the Bible

When discussing marriage, Jesus quoted from Genesis 1 (Matthew 19:1-9). He also referred to Noah by name (Matthew 24:37). Paul directly compared Adam to Jesus in Romans 5 and 1 Corinthians 15 and in 1 Timothy 2:13 refers to Adam and Eve. Paul also holds up Abraham and Sarah as models of faith in many of his letters (Galatians 3:6-9). Peter references Noah and the flood (2 Peter 2:5). There are nine references to Adam and Eve as historical people outside of the Pentateuch. If you scoff at the opening verses of Scripture, be careful because the Bible is really an interlocking puzzle, with no unimportant pieces. Remember that “All Scripture is inspired by God…” (2 Timothy 3:16).

TRIPLE E
03-21-2007, 01:03 PM
Look how the book of Genesis begins:

It didn’t start out: “In the beginning, the earth was without form and void.”
OR “In the beginning, Adam and Eve walked in the garden”
OR “In the beginning when the sun and solar system existed”
OR “In the beginning in a land far far away”

It simply says "In the beginning… God”

For years, scoffers have criticized the Bible for being "geo" centric (centered around the earth). God created the earth & built the sun moon and stars around it. It gave the impression that everything revolved around our planet. Geo-centric.

BUT the Bible isn’t "geo" centric. It’s "Theo" (God) centric. Every thing in Scripture begins and ends with God.

Hebrews 1:10-12 says: "In the beginning, O Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands. They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment. You will roll them up like a robe; like a garment they will be changed. But you remain the same, and your years will never end."

EVERYTHING IN SCRIPTURE IS GOD CENTERED

John 1:1-3 almost echoes Genesis 1 when it says: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.”

AND Colossians 1 adds to that: “(Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.” (vs. 15-17)

EVERYTHING IN SCRIPTURE IS BUILT (not around the earth or man) BUT around God.

MrsMcD
03-21-2007, 01:21 PM
Look how the book of Genesis begins:

It didn’t start out: “In the beginning, the earth was without form and void.”
OR “In the beginning, Adam and Eve walked in the garden”
OR “In the beginning when the sun and solar system existed”
OR “In the beginning in a land far far away”

It simply says "In the beginning… God”

For years, scoffers have criticized the Bible for being "geo" centric (centered around the earth). God created the earth & built the sun moon and stars around it. It gave the impression that everything revolved around our planet. Geo-centric.

BUT the Bible isn’t "geo" centric. It’s "Theo" (God) centric. Every thing in Scripture begins and ends with God.

Hebrews 1:10-12 says: "In the beginning, O Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands. They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment. You will roll them up like a robe; like a garment they will be changed. But you remain the same, and your years will never end."

EVERYTHING IN SCRIPTURE IS GOD CENTERED

John 1:1-3 almost echoes Genesis 1 when it says: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.”

AND Colossians 1 adds to that: “(Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.” (vs. 15-17)

EVERYTHING IN SCRIPTURE IS BUILT (not around the earth or man) BUT around God.

These are really good points. Thanks for sharing.

TRIPLE E
03-21-2007, 01:55 PM
The first verse in Genesis is important for several reasons.

Genesis 1:1

" In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."

It is a definitive statement that God exists. It does not try to debate the fact or argue the point. It flatly states that God does exist.

Many people, throughout history have denied that fact.

There was a man who went to get a haircut one day. As usual, he and the barber began talking about many things, and finally the topic came to God.

The barber said he did not believe in a God. To justify his reasoning, he told his customer than if there were a God, there would not be so many people who were hurting and suffering. No matter what the man tried to say, the barber would always come back to that one point.

After he received his haircut and was on his way to his car, he spotted a man in the parking lot that was obviously homeless. His hair and beard were both long and dirty. His clothes were dirty and worn, and he looked as if he had suffered much in his lifetime.

The man went back to the barbershop and loudly proclaimed that he no longer believed there was any such thing as barbers. Well, the barber told him he was crazy. Said the barber to the man, “You just left after I – a barber – cut your hair.” But the man went on and said that if barbers really existed, people wouldn’t look like the man in the parking lot does, and with that, he pointed through the window to the man.

The barber scoffed and said the reason the man looked like that is that he has never come to the barber to get a haircut. And the barber said that unless the man came to him, there was nothing he could do to help the man.

And the customer said, “Exactly! And until people decide to go to God, He cannot help them with their problems either.”

TRIPLE E
03-21-2007, 02:28 PM
The first verse in Genesis is important for several reasons.

Genesis 1:1

" In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."



From Genesis 1:1 we learn that God is eternal. The fact is simply declared: “In the beginning God…” He is referred to 35 times in the first 34 verses! The Bible simply states that when you go back to the very beginning, God is there. He had no beginning and He will have no end. This is the foundation of all true doctrine. Every other religion starts with man and works its way up to God. The Bible begins with God, for everything has its beginnings in Him.
As humans, we measure our time in minutes, hours, or even lifetimes. We have a hard time trying to comprehend the term ‘forever’.

And, just as we can’t comprehend the ‘forever’ at the beginning, we have just as hard a time trying to understand the ‘forever’ at the end of time. We are like a blind person who has never seen. He knows there is a car, and he understand the overall concept, but since he has never experienced the look of a car, he cannot truly comprehend all there is to know about a car.

The only one that did NOT have a beginning was God. God always was and always will be.

TRIPLE E
03-21-2007, 02:44 PM
Genesis 1:1
" In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."

God created everything The Hebrew word for “create” means “to create out of nothing.”

It is no accident that the first thing God wanted us to know about Himself is that He is the Creator. The whole revelation of Scripture is rooted in this fact, from Genesis to the Book of Revelation.

Psalm 95:6: “Come, let us bow down in worship, let us kneel before the Lord our Maker…”

Psalm 121:2: “My help comes from the Lord, the Maker of heaven and earth.”

Ecclesiastes 12:1: “Remember your Creator in the days of your youth…”

Isaiah 45:9: “Woe to him who quarrels with his Maker…”

Acts 17:24: “The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands.”

Revelation 4:11: “You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being.”

TRIPLE E
03-21-2007, 02:58 PM
Genesis 1:2
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

“Earth was formless and empty"

In the first 3 days of God’s creating what happens? The world takes shape. Forming happens—the formlessness of the world is addressed.

Day 1 Light created
Day 2 Sky made and waters of the earth below
Day 3 Water gathered to one place and dry ground appears. On this dry ground God caused vegetation to grow

During the first 3 days, earth, which in v.2 is described as being formless, gets formed.

Note what happens in days 4-6. The empty/void world gets filled

Day 4 The sun, moon, stars are created
Day 5 Fish for the sea and birds for the air are made
Day 6 All land animals are made and so were we.

Then after all this: Day 7 God rests

Esther
03-21-2007, 03:46 PM
Triple E........excellent........enjoyed your post, very much!:tiphat

Newman
03-21-2007, 06:20 PM
Concerning the book of Job-he no doubt was a contemporary with Abraham as his life span seems to fit that of the other patriarchs living at that time.The book of Job is probably the oldest book in the Bible. It contains more references to creation, the Flood and other primeval events than any book of the Bible except Genesis, and provides more insight into the age-long conflict between God and Satan than almost any other book. Remarkably, it also seems to contain more modern scientific insights than any other book of the Bible.

1. It is interesting comparing Job and Genesis. Not something I would have thought to do.

2. While Job had somethings in common with Abraham; making sacrafices to God on his own without a priest; he did something radically different from Abraham's decendants.

In the first chapter of Job we find that he had split property between just the males in the family; but in the last chapter; after God blessed him and restored him; he split the property to include his daughters also (unlike the normal practice of the Hebrews). Most likely a prophetic inference could be drawn between the OT and NT in this regard. ;)

3. What scientific insights are in Job? What of Genesis? :cool:

Newman
03-21-2007, 06:45 PM
Genesis Outline

There are five patriarchal fathers – Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph and Job—for the book of Job must be put after this book of Genesis and before the book of Exodus. Job certainly lived before Moses and we read of Moses in Exodus 2.

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Joseph is a character presented without fault—not that he had no faults, but his faults are not recorded. He was a man of flesh and blood like us. God honored him, for there are at least 130 parallels between the life of Joseph and the life of Jesus. He is therefore the messianic patriarch, the patriarch who reflected the Christ Himself.



Interesting tidbits.

1. However, I am not sure why the author believes that Job is a descendant of Abraham (if he does); or why the book of Job belongs between Genesis and Exodus. I would like to know how these conclusions were arrived at.

2. I do believe that Joseph exhibited a character flaw/or at the very least the immaturity of his youth in bragging to his brothers. I am also not sure that everyone would agree that it was ok to deceive his family later and scare them half to death.

Consequently, it seems to me that Joseph was shown with faults, so I am not so sure about the messanic theory. But I am willing to look at it. :cool:

TRIPLE E
03-21-2007, 06:59 PM
1. It is interesting comparing Job and Genesis. Not something I would have thought to do.

2. While Job had somethings in common with Abraham; making sacrafices to God on his own without a priest; he did something radically different from Abraham's decendants.

In the first chapter of Job we find that he had split property between just the males in the family; but in the last chapter; after God blessed him and restored him; he split the property to include his daughters also (unlike the normal practice of the Hebrews). Most likely a prophetic inference could be drawn between the OT and NT in this regard. ;)

3. What scientific insights are in Job? What of Genesis? :cool:

The facts and laws of physics were generally not discovered until the last few hundred years. A few topics that the Bible addresses:

Air Has Weight
From earlier centuries until rather recently, the scientific world believed that air lacked weight. The Bible indicates otherwise. The book of Job, written as early as 2000 B.C., indicates that air has weight.

"God understandeth the way thereof, and he knoweth the place thereof. For he looketh to the ends of the earth, and seeth under the whole heaven; To make the weight for the winds; and he weigheth the waters by measure." Job 28:23-25

Torricelli discovered that air has weight in 1643 A.D., and applied it to the discovery of barometric pressure.

Light Moves
People once thought that light was instantaneous. After all, the tremendous velocity of light certainly made it appear in an instant. We now realize not only that light moves, but also that its' movement and velocity are critical to the existence of earth. The book of Job implied that light moves:

"What is the way to the abode of light? And where does darkness reside? Can you take them to their places? Do you know the paths to their dwellings?"
Job 38:19,20

The First and Second Laws of Thermodynamics
#1: Energy cannot be created or destroyed.
#2: Entropy: Things tend to move from a state of order to a state of disorder (randomness). i.e. Things tend to decay. Stars burn out. Heat dissipates. Springs unwind.

Regarding the first law, the Bible makes reference to the idea that no mass or energy has been input into the universe since God finished the creation process.

"By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work. And God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done." Genesis 2:2-3

"Now we who have believed enter that rest, just as God has said, "So I declared on oath in my anger, 'They shall never enter my rest.'" And yet his work has been finished since the creation of the world." Hebrews 4:3,4

The second law is referenced either directly or indirectly in Psalm 102:25,26; Isaiah 51:6; Matthew 24:35; Romans 8:20-22.

TRIPLE E
03-21-2007, 07:02 PM
1. It is interesting comparing Job and Genesis. Not something I would have thought to do.

2. While Job had somethings in common with Abraham; making sacrafices to God on his own without a priest; he did something radically different from Abraham's decendants.

In the first chapter of Job we find that he had split property between just the males in the family; but in the last chapter; after God blessed him and restored him; he split the property to include his daughters also (unlike the normal practice of the Hebrews). Most likely a prophetic inference could be drawn between the OT and NT in this regard. ;)

3. What scientific insights are in Job? What of Genesis? :cool:


The Hydrologic Cycle
Water comes down to earth as rain, runs down hills into rivers, back into the oceans, where it evaporates, eventually to form clouds and fall to earth again. We understand this concept and take it for granted. This concept was not properly identified in the scientific community until the 1700's. The Bible very clearly explained this as follows:

"He draws up the drops of water, which distill as rain to the streams;
the clouds pour down their moisture and abundant showers fall on mankind."
Job 36:27,28

TRIPLE E
03-21-2007, 07:04 PM
1. It is interesting comparing Job and Genesis. Not something I would have thought to do.

2. While Job had somethings in common with Abraham; making sacrafices to God on his own without a priest; he did something radically different from Abraham's decendants.

In the first chapter of Job we find that he had split property between just the males in the family; but in the last chapter; after God blessed him and restored him; he split the property to include his daughters also (unlike the normal practice of the Hebrews). Most likely a prophetic inference could be drawn between the OT and NT in this regard. ;)

3. What scientific insights are in Job? What of Genesis? :cool:

The Earth is Suspended in Space
The Chinese thought the earth was square. The Egyptians thought it was rectangular with a "starry" goddess arching her body over the earth while the sun and the moon massaged her arms and legs. About 2000 B.C. the Bible indicated that the earth hangs on nothing but space.

"He spreads out the northern skies over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing."
Job 26:7

TRIPLE E
03-22-2007, 05:01 AM
Genesis 1:2
2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

“And the spirit of God…”
There is something that is called the “Law of First Mention”. What the law of first mention says is the 1st time something is mentioned in scripture it dictates how that thing will act every time it is mentioned throughout the entire Bible.
Here we have the 1st mention of the Spirit of God. The Bible says “and the Spirit of God moved…” The word move is a verb an action word, the Spirit of God is action, “and the Spirit of God moved…” Notice when it moved.
It moved when darkness was upon the face of the deep, it moved when the absence of light was in effect, it moved when chaos was all around it moved upon the face of the waters, that destructive force, it moved.

Praise God that His Spirit moved upon us when we were still roaming around in the darkness and brought us to the light!

TRIPLE E
03-22-2007, 05:04 AM
Genesis 1:3
3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

If we want to know what it really means to have “life”…
…not empty life, not formless life, not life that is filled with darkness…but real “life”…
…life that is filled with real peace, real joy, real love…
…we must come to the Light Jesus Christ!

Newman
03-22-2007, 05:18 AM
Triple E- Thanks for posting those scientific insights found in Scripture. Very interesting. :tiphat

Not sure though that I believe in the "law of first mention." Men are not always wimps and women aren't always deceived. A raven was sent froom the Noah's ark and did not return as a dove did; but ravens brought food to a prophet holed up in a cave. Maybe some other posters can comment. :cool:

TRIPLE E
03-22-2007, 07:20 AM
Triple E- Thanks for posting those scientific insights found in Scripture. Very interesting. :tiphat

Not sure though that I believe in the "law of first mention." Men are not always wimps and women aren't always deceived. A raven was sent froom the Noah's ark and did not return as a dove did; but ravens brought food to a prophet holed up in a cave. Maybe some other posters can comment. :cool:

I have to agree with you "the law of first mention" doesn't work for everything in the word for sure!

Esther
03-22-2007, 07:48 AM
Interesting tidbits.

1. However, I am not sure why the author believes that Job is a descendant of Abraham (if he does); or why the book of Job belongs between Genesis and Exodus. I would like to know how these conclusions were arrived at.

2. I do believe that Joseph exhibited a character flaw/or at the very least the immaturity of his youth in bragging to his brothers. I am also not sure that everyone would agree that it was ok to deceive his family later and scare them half to death.

Consequently, it seems to me that Joseph was shown with faults, so I am not so sure about the messanic theory. But I am willing to look at it. :cool:

1. I think the author is taking in consideration the time frame of Job that he was alive before Moses. I have read others that have stated something similar, even suggesting it should have been the first book, except for the fact that Genesis gives the beginning of time.

2. I am sure Joseph had character flaws as ALL mankind does. However, I personally don't see it as a flaw that he tested his brothers. Considering what they had done to him, I think it was only wisdom to see if they had indeed changed, before giving them blessings beyond what others would have received.

JMO

Thanks for your usual wise input. :)

Esther
03-22-2007, 07:48 AM
Triple E- Thanks for posting those scientific insights found in Scripture. Very interesting. :tiphat

Not sure though that I believe in the "law of first mention." Men are not always wimps and women aren't always deceived. A raven was sent froom the Noah's ark and did not return as a dove did; but ravens brought food to a prophet holed up in a cave. Maybe some other posters can comment. :cool:

Good points.

Esther
03-22-2007, 07:48 AM
Triple E again, great input.

Esther
03-22-2007, 06:04 PM
Bump for the night crew. :)

TRIPLE E
03-23-2007, 11:27 AM
Genesis 2:15

"And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it."

About 1,000 years before Jesus was born…there lived a man God called, “A man after my own heart.” His name was David.

Many of the great O.T. stories include David…
· David’s victory over revenge regarding Saul.
· David’s friendship with Jonathan.
· David’s victory over the giant Goliath.
· David’s rebounding after his sin.

David was a shepherd boy turned king…a great story.
In Acts 13 we are given something of an epitaph of David’s life.

“David…served God’s purpose in his own generation.” - Acts 13:36

Esther lived 400-500 years before Jesus. The king of her day threw a lavish party. A royal beauty pageant broke out. Esther won.
As a Jewish queen serving in a Gentile Court…Esther was found to be in a unique position.
A rift broke out between her Jewish Uncle Mordecai and the powerful man Haman.

Haman authored and was granted permission a law that stated all Jews would be put to death.
Mordecai wrote to Esther these words:
“Who knows but that you have come to royal position for such a time as this?” - Esther 4:14


Jesus prayed…His prayer is recorded in John 17.
Jesus prays,
“Father, I have brought you glory on earth by completing the work you gave me to do.” - John 17:4


- Completing the work you gave me to do.
- For such a time as this.
- Served God’s purposes in his generation.

“The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it.”

Every man…every woman…every young and old person on the planet…has been strategically placed on the planet and we have been placed for a God purpose.


- Strategically placed in our family.
- Strategically placed in our neighborhoods.
- Strategically placed in our classroom or career.
- Strategically placed in our church.

For such a time as this…to complete the work God has given to us…in this/our generation.

From the beginning…starting with Adam…God strategically placed him (in the garden of Eden) and gave him an assignment (to work it and care for it).

Adam was part of God’s mission.
His life had purpose.
His life had meaning.

Harold Kushner wrote:
“Our souls are not hungry for fame, comfort, wealth, or power. Those rewards create almost as many problems as they solve. Our souls are hungry for meaning.”

Esther
03-23-2007, 03:42 PM
Another great post.

It will be interesting when we get to the part of the days of Noah and where or not it was fallen angels having children or some believe or if the men of that day were giants???

Also, I like the part of Abraham, where by faith he left all he knew to follow a God he just met.

Genesis is so full of many great stories of days gone by.

Lessons to be learned for sure.

I would like to see more postings on the first chapter.

The days of creation.

TRIPLE E
03-23-2007, 06:04 PM
Genesis 2:7
"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

We are creatures of God

When placed side by side with the infinite God who holds the galaxies in His hand, we discover how small we are:

God is eternal (1 Tim 1:17), I am mortal (Genesis 6:3)
God is all knowing and all understanding (Psalm 147:5), I know so little and so limited (Job 38:1-39:30).
God is self-sufficient (Acts 17:24-25), I am derived and dependent forever upon him (Heb. 1:3; John 15:5).
God has life in himself (John 5:26), I have life on loan (Acts 15:25).

RevDWW
03-23-2007, 06:09 PM
Genesis 2:7
"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

We are creatures of God

When placed side by side with the infinite God who holds the galaxies in His hand, we discover how small we are:

God is eternal (1 Tim 1:17), I am mortal (Genesis 6:3)
God is all knowing and all understanding (Psalm 147:5), I know so little and so limited (Job 38:1-39:30).
God is self-sufficient (Acts 17:24-25), I am derived and dependent forever upon him (Heb. 1:3; John 15:5).
God has life in himself (John 5:26), I have life on loan (Acts 15:25).


John 20:22 (KJV) 22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:

Acts 2:1 (KJV) 1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

And still God breaths the breath of life into man!

TRIPLE E
03-27-2007, 09:29 AM
"bump"

Esther
03-27-2007, 10:24 AM
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Pro 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.


Pro 8:23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.


Pro 8:24 When [there were] no depths, I was brought forth; when [there were] no fountains abounding with water.

Jhn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


Jhn 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.


Jhn 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Hbr 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:


1Jo 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;


running out of time, will try and finish later.

TRIPLE E
03-27-2007, 12:58 PM
2. I do believe that Joseph exhibited a character flaw/or at the very least the immaturity of his youth in bragging to his brothers. I am also not sure that everyone would agree that it was ok to deceive his family later and scare them half to death.

Consequently, it seems to me that Joseph was shown with faults, so I am not so sure about the messanic theory. But I am willing to look at it. :cool:

Joseph was destined for great things, but he also had grand weaknesses and big egos to overcome.
Craved for his brothers’ attention, acceptance, and affection, he appeared where he was not invited, said what nobody wanted to hear, and flaunted what no one else had, from paternal favors to heavenly visions. Joseph made a big fuss about his dreams, wore his loud, colorful, and exclusive garment everywhere, and got on every one’s nerves, case and blacklist. He was not wise, likable, or tolerable. In short, he was a spoiled brat and a little monster - a pet to his father but a rat, a mole and a pest to his brothers
The sons of Bilhah and Zilpah, the children of the lowly maids and not the powerful wives of Jacob, were Joseph’s first targets when he brought a bad report to his father (v 2).
The words "bad report" mean slander (Ps 31:13), defamation (Jer 20:10), and malicious talk (Ezek 36:3).
Maybe what Joseph said of his less privileged brothers to their father Jacob was true, but he was unkind, unfair, and unbearable.
He was ahead of himself, sure of himself, and full of himself. When he was young, Joseph was talkative, insensitive, blunt, naive, and immature.
I believe that the Joseph definately showed a character flaw or two and his 13 years in exile were years of preparation for Joseph for his God given destiny.

Esther
04-16-2007, 03:37 PM
Bump for our new posters that have signed on. Looking for input from Aceton and Mlblume and Bro. Strange and .....