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gulfcoastbrother
01-06-2008, 02:24 PM
Who will make the next best president in your opinion?
Who is the most ethical, moral, Godly man to lead this nation?
Would anyone like to weigh in?
ReformedDave
01-06-2008, 02:36 PM
Who will make the next best president in your opinion?
Who is the most ethical, moral, Godly man to lead this nation?
Would anyone like to weigh in?
I think the question should be which one's political philosophy best resembles Scripture?
helen_febus
01-06-2008, 09:04 PM
Ron Paul is the only one I would consider voting for.
If he weren't running, I would not vote at all. Well maybe, if I thought my vote might keep Clinton OUT.
God Bless
Hoovie
01-06-2008, 09:10 PM
I think the question should be which one's political philosophy best resembles Scripture?
well, RD....
Apprehended
01-06-2008, 09:40 PM
Who will make the next best president in your opinion?
Who is the most ethical, moral, Godly man to lead this nation?
Would anyone like to weigh in?
I think that James L. Kilgore would.
Besides him, probably brother Mooney. He does look presidential too, don't you think?
But, I know what you are asking. I doubt that any of them are very godly but besides that, I believe the best choice of those who still have a chance to win, Romney might be the best. At least, he has my support...and vote if he gets the nomination.
Aquila
01-06-2008, 09:44 PM
I think the question should be which one's political philosophy best resembles Scripture?
What political philosophy is represented in Scripture? Rabbinical scholars in Israel believe that socialism is the most biblical of political philosophies, that's why Jewish religous authorities support Israel's socialist government with it's universal health care.
Personally, I believe that the Bible's political economic philosophy would be more Distributist.
TRFrance
01-06-2008, 11:02 PM
Well, there are some who say the best president would be ABC
(Anybody But Clinton)
...might be true.
.
ReformedDave
01-07-2008, 07:20 AM
What political philosophy is represented in Scripture? Rabbinical scholars in Israel believe that socialism is the most biblical of political philosophies, that's why Jewish religous authorities support Israel's socialist government with it's universal health care.
Personally, I believe that the Bible's political economic philosophy would be more Distributist.
Any form of socialist distribution is stealing by the state....hench wrong. Scripture in no wise ordains mandatory 'giving' by the rich via the state.
Joelel
01-07-2008, 03:43 PM
Who will make the next best president in your opinion?
Who is the most ethical, moral, Godly man to lead this nation?
Would anyone like to weigh in?
Barack Obama Is Church of God,they believe in the gifts of the Spirit but don't baptize in Jesus name.
Mike Huckabee is baptist,they don't believe in gifts of the Spirit and don't baptize in Jesus name.
scotty
01-07-2008, 03:48 PM
Here is my problem Romney
--Romney supports abortion in general, and believes in sustaining Roe v. Wade.
--Romney campaigned for Governor of Massachusetts as a pro-choice candidate, and was endorsed by a pro-abortion political group
--Romney is willing to support some embryonic stem cell research
--Romney Approves of Abortion Pill and Supports the Legalization of RU-486
--Romney signs "Right to Privacy" Proclamation celebrating birth control availability(this includes the right of public schools to provide children with it without parental consent or knowledge)
--Gov. Romney has a long history of promoting and furthering the homosexual agenda, and working closely with leading gay activists
--Romney twice sought and received the endorsement of the homosexual Log Cabin Republican Club
--Romney's campaign distributed pro-gay rights campaign literature during Boston's "Gay Pride" events
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--Romney advocates homosexual couples' adoption rights be recognized by the government
--Romney supports homosexual domestic partnerships
--Romney supported and promoted legalizing homosexual civil unions
--Romney Opposes the Boy Scouts' Ban on Homosexual Scoutmasters. Romney barred Boy Scouts from public participation in 2002 Olympics. (this had never been done before and has never been done since by any governor)
--Romney appointed prominent homosexual activists and Democrats as judges
--Romney Rewards one of the State's Leading Anti-Marriage Attorneys by Making him a Judge
--Romney's Commission on Gay and Lesbian Youth used huge taxpayer funding to promote homosexuality in the public schools
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--More recently Romney proposed allocating $250,000 for the Governor's Commission on Gay and Lesbian Youth for fiscal year 2006
--Romney's Commission organized public gay "Youth Pride Day" parades and "transgender proms" which promote unhealthy and risky behavior
--Romney's Department of Education promotes the homosexual agenda
--Romney opposed federal legislation that would stop public schools from promoting homosexuality
--Romney refused to endorse the original 2002 Mass. constitutional amendment absolutely defining marriage as one man and one women
--Romney unnecessarily (and unconstitutionally) implemented homosexual marriages in Massachusetts
--Romney had marriage licenses changed to allow same-sex marriages
--Romney administration ordered Justices of Peace to perform homosexual "marriages" when asked - or be fired!
--When requested of him, Romney personally issues special one-day certificates to allow otherwise unqualified people to perform homosexual "marriages"
--Romney imposes "socialized" health care on Massachusetts
--Romney's plan, which is backed by such liberals as Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, Mass.), is being pitched as a compact between citizens and the state.
Sources
Boston Herald, 5/19/1994 (re: morning after pill) - archive
Boston Herald, 8/1/1994, "Gays split in Governor race; Both Weld and Roosevelt are laying claims for support," - archive
Bay Windows, 8/25,1994, "Romney: I'll be better than Ted for gay rights."
Boston Globe, 10/17/1994, "Kennedy, Romney continue trading charges over facts" - archive
Boston Globe, 10/27/1994 (re: Boy Scouts) - archive
Lawyers' Weekly, 2/14/2000 (re: Stephen Abany)
NewsMax, 12/18/2000, "2002 Salt Lake Committee Bans Boy Scouts From Olympics" by David M. Bresnahan
Boston Globe, 3/19/2002, "Supporters want to see real Romney" - archive
Boston Globe, 3/22/2002, "Romney kin signed petition to ban same-sex marriage" - archive
Bay Windows, 3/28/2002, "Gay GOP touts Romney as good for the community"
Romney 2002 Campaign web site
Associated Press / South Coast Today, 10/3/2002, "O'Brien, Romney tout abortion rights credentials"
Bay Windows, 10/24/2002, "Don't dismiss Romney, gay Republicans say"
Washington Times, 11/20/2003, "Romney pursues law on gay unions"
Wall Street Journal, 2/5/2004, "One Man, One Woman - A citizen's guide to protecting marriage," by Mitt Romney
Patrick J. Buchanan, 2/9/2004, "Mitt Romney: Meet Calvin Coolidge"
Boston Globe, 3/11/2004, "Republican gay rights group hits Bush, Romney Stances" - archive
Agape Press, 3/30/2004, "Nobody Happy; Proposed Mass. Amendment Backs Marriage, Endorses Civil Unions; Massachusetts' Voters 'Blackmailed,' Say Supporters of Traditional Marriage"
Boston Globe, 3/30/2004, "In crucial shift, governor sways 15 in GOP to support measure"
Boston Globe, 4/11/2004, "Weeks ahead crucial for foes, supporters of gay marriage"
Associated Press, 4/12/2004, "Clerks to receive training on gay marriage licensing, while governor weighs options"
Boston Globe, 4/18/2004, "Justices of the peace confront dilemmas on gay marriage; Opponents face wedding quandary"
Associated Press, 4/24/2004, "Mass. Seeks Compliance on Gay Weddings"
WorldNetDaily, 4/24/2004, "Bill seeks ouster of Massachusetts justices; Last-minute effort to remove 4 who ruled for same-sex marriage"
New York Times, 4/26/2004, "Obey Same-Sex Marriage Law, Officials Told" - archive
WorldNetDaily, 5/8/2004, "9 Days to Same-Sex Marriage"
Boston Phoenix, 5/14-20/2004, "Schiz Romney: Do national aspirations explain the governor's switch from nice guy to anti-gay-marriage activist?"
National Review Online, 5/17/2004, "The Missing Governor," by Prof. Hadley Arkes
New York Times, 5/19/2004, "Governor Moves on Non-Massachusetts Couples" - archive
U.S. Senate testimony by Gov. Mitt Romney, 6/22/2004
Citizen (Focus on the Family), 7/2004, "Massachusetts Marriage Chaos; Gay Marriage a Reality in Massachusetts; No Opt-Out Clause for Justices of the Peace" (archived)
MassNews, 12/2/2004, "Article 8 files bills in Massachusetts legislature to remove 4 SJC judges and eliminate homosexual marriage"
National Review Online, 2/11/2005, "Romney vs. Harvard" by Kathryn Jean Lopez
American Spectator, 2/23/2005, "Mitt Romney's Choice" by W. James Antle III
Associated Press / WIS-TV10 News, 2/23/2005, "Some say Gov. Romney changed tune on gay civil unions in Spartanburg Mon."
Bay Windows, 3/3/2005, "Mitt Romney's secret gay history!"
Boston Globe, 3/25/2005, "Roe v. Wade omitted from proclamation"
Governor's Office, 5/14/2005, "Romney Names Stephen Abany to Wrentham District Court"
State House press conference, 6/15/2005, transcript
Boston Globe, 7/1/2005, "Governor's vetoes raise more questions on national run" - archive
Boston Globe, 7/3/2005, "Clarity sought on Romney's abortion stance"
Boston Globe, 7/7/2005, "Eyes on Romney as morning-after pill OK'd"
Boston Globe, 7/22/2005, "Birth certificate policy draws fire; Change affects same-sex couples"
Boston Globe, 7/25/2005, "Romney jurist picks not tilted to GOP; Independents, Democrats get call"
WBUR (PBS) Radio Boston / AFA Michigan, 12/9/2005 "Romney changes position on morning after pill"
OP_Carl
01-07-2008, 04:30 PM
Fred
Fred Thompson for me.
I like Ron Paul's ideas better but Thompson is fully electable. He is a true conservative. Which, by the way, is the reason why he is getting virtually no press coverage. Huckabee and Romney are getting the coverage because the leftists know that either candidate can be used to de-construct the conservative coalition.
Huckabee is a Democrat's dream come true: They can rip him to shreds, use him to divide the conservative vote, or just let him win and watch him govern like the Socialist-in-Republican-clothing that he is.
Romney has more of an aura of success, but the religious right are rightfully wary of his views on social policy, as has been more than amply shown by a previous post. Barack Obama's success in very white Iowa shows that the electorate is moving beyond old prejudices, so the elite media hopes of pitting Mitt against "true" Christianity isn't likely to be very fruitful. They plan to try it anyway, which is why he gets somewhat more favorable press. He and Guiliani will both play well on the East coast but will lose traction in the heartland. He's too much of a Yankee.
Thompson is the real deal. A true limited government conservative. An intellectual. A communicator with presence. America will have to forgive him for the big D and for choosing a hot young thing for Mrs. Thompson, scene II. But this is still more respectable behavior than either of the Clinton's "legacy."
Ron Paul is too idealistic to carry certain key states. The things about him that play well to independents alienate him to key conservative demographics.
The mainstream media seems to be in Hillary's hip pocket. When for the first time in American history an African-American won a presidential primary, the story was all about Huckabee's surprise win. They don't want us to dwell on the glaring hole in Hillary's shield of inevitability, so all of a sudden they take a great interest in Baptist preachers. Fun stuff, huh?
We've only had one primary, and it's hardly a bell-weather. Don't get hopeful or concerned any sooner than super-Tuesday.
OK, having thought thru the list, first of all, being Godly has not helped past presidents be good presidents.
That boarderline idiot Jimmy Carter was one of the most Moral and most Christian Presidents we have ever had. He was also completely incompetant.
I think the following are qualified.
Rudy
Mitt
Huck
McCain
Bill Richardson (D)
The rest arent qua
TRFrance
01-07-2008, 05:20 PM
Barack Obama Is Church of God,they believe in the gifts of the Spirit but don't baptize in Jesus name.
Mike Huckabee is baptist,they don't believe in gifts of the Spirit and don't baptize in Jesus name.
Obama is in the United Church of Christ denomination, not the Church of God.
As far as I understand the United Church of Christ does not preach & teach the gifts, or baptism in Jesus name.
http://www.tucc.org/about.htm
http://www.ucc.org/about-us/what-we-believe.html
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Walkbyfaith7
01-07-2008, 06:13 PM
Dr. Ron Paul.
Joelel
01-07-2008, 07:38 PM
Obama is in the United Church of Christ denomination, not the Church of God.
As far as I understand the United Church of Christ does not preach & teach the gifts, or baptism in Jesus name.
http://www.tucc.org/about.htm
http://www.ucc.org/about-us/what-we-believe.html
...
Guess I don't hear so good.
winklebottom
01-08-2008, 04:42 PM
Best Hair goes to -Edwards
Worst teeth-Huckabee
Worst impression of a woman-Clinton
Pastiest-John McCain
Best Alfred P Newman impression-Obama
and just plain crazy- Ron Paul
It is old news that God an God alone appoints all governmental authority. According to scripture God will appoint the next president of the United States---
Walkbyfaith7
01-08-2008, 05:30 PM
It is old news that God an God alone appoints all governmental authority. According to scripture God will appoint the next president of the United States---
You really believe God will appoint the next president of the USA?
What is he is for abortion? God just looks beyond that?
Of course that means it doesn't matter what you vote, correct so why vote?
You really believe God will appoint the next president of the USA?
What is he is for abortion? God just looks beyond that?
Of course that means it doesn't matter what you vote, correct so why vote?
Christianity has always acknowledged that God appoints secular authority. The scriptures are clear on this issue. Nothing new here.
Yes, no reason to vote.
Walkbyfaith7
01-08-2008, 05:56 PM
Christianity has always acknowledged that God appoints secular authority. The scriptures are clear on this issue. Nothing new here.
Yes, no reason to vote.
If you believe that you are funny. By your logic Jesus set up our system for you to vote but then you don't vote because Jesus will vote for you.
Then why not get fat- don't go to the doctor, and don't worry about anything to do with your health- the Lord knows and appoints your day to die, right?
The Lord gave us this world and this life to live.
If you believe that you are funny. By your logic Jesus set up our system for you to vote but then you don't vote because Jesus will vote for you.
Then why not get fat- don't go to the doctor, and don't worry about anything to do with your health- the Lord knows and appoints your day to die, right?
The Lord gave us this world and this life to live.
We reap what we sow concerning health issues--but God can intervene on that.
Whatever system of government that is set up is irrevelent. Either God appoints or he doesn't. The scriptures are clear that he appoints.
Name one person in authority now or in the past that God did not appoint. Can you tell me who God wants to be president?
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