I've been thinking about Huckabee and McCain

[Apprehended]

AFter the Iowa caucuses, it was brought to my attention that Iowans supported Huckaberry by the overwheming majority of Evangelicals won big time.

I am wondering if this vote is not a reaction to the Islamic Jihadist that seems to be invading our courtry from every direction. I don't think that he would have gotten such a huge vote from the Evangelicals, since he is a Baptist preacher, if it was not a reaction.

I think that McCain is picking up on the sentiment too. I've been hearing him say, "This nation is founded on the JUDEAO/CHRISTIAN ethic and culture," with emphasis. I'm wondering if he is also picking up that reactionary sentiment among the evangelicals. If he is, it is smart.

This nation's ONLY hope is in God, of course. But rejection of God might very well be seen in our nation being swallowed up by the Muslims who are moved by their bible, the Quran, that declares that we christians are infidels and should be destroyed.

[Ferd]

Well, honestly you can be sure that McCain will not support Supreme Cout Justices that will over turn Roe v Wade. period. it wont happen.

McCain would likely stay in Iraq and seek to win.

On taxation, McCain's record is mixed. he has supported tax cuts in the past but has joined with Dems on some points of rolling back GWBs tax cuts... some but not all....On taxes McCain can't be trusted.


Huck however will appoint strict constructionist judges.

But Huck has some things that cause pause. He raised taxes about 800 Million dollars then later lowered taxes 350 Million dollars while governer of ARK. He says primarily the taxes on gas (consumption taxes) were raised because the roads were terrible and he had to fix them. His claim is that he lowered income tax by quite a bit (24% seems to come to mind but I can't be sure).

Huck also worked to provide college education to the children of illegal immagrants. I am confused if this was a broad group or just a small group related to American children that were left here after their illegal parents were deported. I cant seem to get the details on this.

Huck has recently criticized GWB on the War in Iraq, but it remains to be seen what his view of the path forward is. I dont know if he feels we need to stay and win, or like the Dems, we need to pull out.

Scotty is a big Huck supporter and is from Arkansas. He can give some good information on him.

i still dont know what I will do. I am at a complete loss. the only thing I am sure of, is I dont want McCain to win the Nomination, but I will vote for who ever the republicans nominate.

[Apprehended]

Ferd,

I know that McCain is a social liberal. That scares me. The only heartening thing that I heard from him; he promised to appoint ONLY "original intent" judges to the bench. If he is elected, I can only hope that he does.

This is important because there are a couple of judges getting ready to kick the bucket. One of them is John Paul Stevens, the most whacked-out liberal on the Supreme bench.

[winklebottom]

the only thing that scares me about the republican candidates is huckabee's teeth

[Blubayou]

Ferd- I am with you except - I am not tied to the Republican party. What has amazed me is the people who are supporting Obama- with his Muslim background and schooling. Hilary is way to liberal for me. John Edwards may be a viable choose, I have not studied his platform enough to make a decision. As far as the Republican party - McCain is way too Hawkish for me and more of the same we have with Bush. Huckabee is a unknown- I like what he says most of the time- again I am going to have to study his platform before I make a decision. I am a registered Democrat - have been for 35 years, but most of the time I have voted Republican.

[Sister Truth Seeker]

Ferd- I am with you except - I am not tied to the Republican party. What has amazed me is the people who are supporting Obama- with his Muslim background and schooling. Hilary is way to liberal for me. John Edwards may be a viable choose, I have not studied his platform enough to make a decision. As far as the Republican party - McCain is way too Hawkish for me and more of the same we have with Bush. Huckabee is a unknown- I like what he says most of the time- again I am going to have to study his platform before I make a decision. I am a registered Democrat - have been for 35 years, but most of the time I have voted Republican.

I believe he now attends a christian church although nothing has really been said publically that I have heard about his faith.....

[scotty]

Well, honestly you can be sure that McCain will not support Supreme Cout Justices that will over turn Roe v Wade. period. it wont happen.

McCain would likely stay in Iraq and seek to win.

On taxation, McCain's record is mixed. he has supported tax cuts in the past but has joined with Dems on some points of rolling back GWBs tax cuts... some but not all....On taxes McCain can't be trusted.


Huck however will appoint strict constructionist judges.

But Huck has some things that cause pause. He raised taxes about 800 Million dollars then later lowered taxes 350 Million dollars while governer of ARK. He says primarily the taxes on gas (consumption taxes) were raised because the roads were terrible and he had to fix them. His claim is that he lowered income tax by quite a bit (24% seems to come to mind but I can't be sure).

He did raise taxes while in office, however they were lowered right after the job that needed done was done (whens the last time you heard that happening) The court made him raise taxes by court order to pay for Hillary's left over education screw up. The road tax he brought up and put on the ballot, we Arkansans voted it in, our roads were terrible shape,. All of those taxes were lowered back down once the job was done. The misrepresentation going on is this, in the years Huckabee was governor the average state tax increase was 62 %. He increased taxes by 46%. So he was not the only governor raising taxes and even then he was less than most states and he lowered them back down to the exact same level they were when he took office, while leaving office with the state holding an 84 million dollar surplus to boot.

The Hucksters idea is to abolish the IRS and do away with income tax altogether. then apply an equal tax to goods. So you will get all of your paycheck and you will just pay taxes on the things you buy.

Huck also worked to provide college education to the children of illegal immagrants. I am confused if this was a broad group or just a small group related to American children that were left here after their illegal parents were deported. I cant seem to get the details on this.

Exactly, you want to fix this then change the law that says if they are born here they are automatic citizens. His opinion was if they are gonna deport the parents but leave the children here as citizens then at least get them a good education to be benificial to the country instead of government programs having to support them.

Huck has recently criticized GWB on the War in Iraq, but it remains to be seen what his view of the path forward is. I dont know if he feels we need to stay and win, or like the Dems, we need to pull out.

This is still up in the air even with me. He does not have any experience in area.

Scotty is a big Huck supporter and is from Arkansas. He can give some good information on him.

i still dont know what I will do. I am at a complete loss. the only thing I am sure of, is I dont want McCain to win the Nomination, but I will vote for who ever the republicans nominate.


Socially he his the best candidate from either party. My biggest problem and fear is that unless the evangelical voters come out in mass. I just don't think he has the popularity to win against Hillary or Obama.

Which really is kinda sad.

[SoCaliUPC]

Both are touching on these "statements" because evangelical christians showed up in large numbers during the last election and voted for Bush. It is a group that they are going after.

[Ferd]

Ferd,

I know that McCain is a social liberal. That scares me. The only heartening thing that I heard from him; he promised to appoint ONLY "original intent" judges to the bench. If he is elected, I can only hope that he does.

This is important because there are a couple of judges getting ready to kick the bucket. One of them is John Paul Stevens, the most whacked-out liberal on the Supreme bench.

agreed. the next off the bench is Stevens, then likely Kennedy. kennedy is the swing.


It would not supprise me if McCain appointed moderates or if he kept the current balance by replacing JPS with a liberal and Kennedy with a mod.

I dont trust him at all. I also wonder if he can actually win.

[Ferd]

Socially he his the best candidate from either party. My biggest problem and fear is that unless the evangelical voters come out in mass. I just don't think he has the popularity to win against Hillary or Obama.

Which really is kinda sad.

Scotty, I listened to part of a conversation Huck had with Hanity. Hanity asked him direct questions and he was very forth comming.

the tax number I quoted were what i remember Huck stating were accurate. At the end of the day, i was much more comfortable with his answers on taxation than what I have been based on the noise out there from the fiscal conservitives.

I agree with his consumption tax ideas.


the other thing about Huck has to do with the pardons.
Now I know you know better than I and I would like clarification but I understand the Gov. doesnt actually pardon in ARK it goes before a pardon and paroll board that actually makes the recomendation?

however, he did write a letter to one guy that got out and raped and killed again. It seemed he was on board with this guys release?

[Mr. Steinway]

"Huckabee & McCain" sounds like a lawyer firm name! :D

[Walkbyfaith7]

"Huckabee & McCain" sounds like a lawyer firm name! :D

lol yeah it does! Good call!

[Walkbyfaith7]

Or better yet:

Huckabee, McCain and Romney

[Apprehended]

agreed. the next off the bench is Stevens, then likely Kennedy. kennedy is the swing.


It would not supprise me if McCain appointed moderates or if he kept the current balance by replacing JPS with a liberal and Kennedy with a mod.

I dont trust him at all. I also wonder if he can actually win.

Yes,

Kennedy does seem to be the swing voter most of the time. But, I would think that Ruth B. Ginsberg would probably be the next to go after Stevens. They are both getting old. I would be very pleased to see Ginsberg replaced. She is nuts. She believes that nine, ten year old girls have the right to consent to sex. She is out in far space.

I too wonder if McCain can win. So far, he is doing about as good as any of the rest of them. The demon-crats scare me though. I see that they are getting larger numbers out in the primaries than are the Republicans. I hope that is not a portend of things to come in the Gen Election.

If McCain makes it to the White House, I can only pray that he will keep his word to appoint all constructionist to the bench.

One thing for sure, the next president is going to have a basket full of problems to deal with...the least of which is the growing financial crisis in our nation. We are now ON THE BRINK...regardless what those boys with those rose colored glasses say.

[Ferd]

Yes,

Kennedy does seem to be the swing voter most of the time. But, I would think that Ruth B. Ginsberg would probably be the next to go after Stevens. They are both getting old. I would be very pleased to see Ginsberg replaced. She is nuts. She believes that nine, ten year old girls have the right to consent to sex. She is out in far space.

I too wonder if McCain can win. So far, he is doing about as good as any of the rest of them. The demon-crats scare me though. I see that they are getting larger numbers out in the primaries than are the Republicans. I hope that is not a portend of things to come in the Gen Election.

If McCain makes it to the White House, I can only pray that he will keep his word to appoint all constructionist to the bench.

One thing for sure, the next president is going to have a basket full of problems to deal with...the least of which is the growing financial crisis in our nation. We are now ON THE BRINK...regardless what those boys with those rose colored glasses say.

I am hoping and praying that the Republicans win. but I also know history says the Rs dont have a chance.

If I recall correctly in years where the sitting president is not running and has an approval rating below 50%, that mans party has failed to win the whitehouse.

The war looks to be a non-issue now, however it has been a sore spot. No republican candidate appeals to the base of the party, and we are looking at a slowdown in the economy.

the deck is stacked against the Rs in this deal.

[embonpoint]

Interestingly enough, at this moment Romney has more delegates than either McCain or Huckabee.

I don't trust McCain.

Huckabee is a foreign policy fool.(I heard a speech of his on Iran)

That being said any of the three would be worlds ahead of anyone the Dems are offering up.

[scotty]

the other thing about Huck has to do with the pardons.
Now I know you know better than I and I would like clarification but I understand the Gov. doesnt actually pardon in ARK it goes before a pardon and paroll board that actually makes the recomendation?

however, he did write a letter to one guy that got out and raped and killed again. It seemed he was on board with this guys release?

I'm not real happy about this either. The governor can not pardon, but he can write letters of recomendation.

Side Note; the parole board is saying now that Huckabee "pressured" them to let the guy out. You tell me why and when has an all democrat elected board ever been pressured by a Republican? Sorry, not buying it.

Here is my opinion on it. The liberal parole board felt sorry for him. period. And in a way he had gotten what he deserved. Heck man, he was attacked and casturated in prison. Which should happen to most all rapist in my opinion. But you know what, only God could have seen his heart. Huckabee is only a man, he made a judgement call based on his religious views of forgivness, and he was wrong.

I can't count the times we have been burned as a congregation when we help what appears to be someone in need and instead turns out to be someone just taking advantage.

[Apprehended]

"Huckabee & McCain" sounds like a lawyer firm name! :D

LOL... Yes.

Also sounds a lot like a Samuel Clement's sequel to Huckleberry Finn.

[OP_Carl]

I am hoping and praying that the Republicans win. but I also know history says the Rs dont have a chance.

If I recall correctly in years where the sitting president is not running and has an approval rating below 50%, that mans party has failed to win the whitehouse.

The war looks to be a non-issue now, however it has been a sore spot. No republican candidate appeals to the base of the party, and we are looking at a slowdown in the economy.

the deck is stacked against the Rs in this deal.

If you're truly concerned about the economy, then you ought to get all fired up about Ron Paul. His idea of getting back to the gold standard is a sign that he is the only one of the bunch that has a chance of having a clue about what the true state of affairs is in America regarding our finances. Some of our hottest trading partners were not too long ago our enemy godless communist oppressors. These same corrupt nations have amassed inconceivable cash surpluses while we continue mad deficit spending and running the printing presses with a silly grin. Our policies have allowed us to reach a position where nations not altogether sympathetic to our interests have enormous leverage over us, most of our population is incapable of the levels of reason and critical thought necessary to truly understand these complex issues, and therefore votes for short-term and self-serving reasons, and our currency is in freefall.

People need to understand that leaving the gold standard was a decision that benefited only a select cadre, and created an invisible tax (called inflation) for the rest of us. FDR established some awful programs, and these programs have been horrendously abused by the public and private sector alike. The practice of deficit spending is unconstitutional and unbiblical. The civil rights voting act of 1964 was just the start of our long slide into wealth transfer programs, and away from our constitution. Each year we erode more and more of our liberties, prop up more and more special interest groups, and become less and less of a constitutional republic.

Few things are more evil or destructive than our current monetary policy, yet 99% of the population are incapable of understanding the situation, the history, and the potential solutions.

Thinking makes our heads hurt, so let's see what Britney is up to, and watch the latest episode of Lost or the superbowl.

Bread and circuses for the oblivious doomed.

[Barb]

I don't trust McCain.



I don't either...

[ChristopherHall]

Ferd,

I know that McCain is a social liberal. That scares me. The only heartening thing that I heard from him; he promised to appoint ONLY "original intent" judges to the bench. If he is elected, I can only hope that he does.

This is important because there are a couple of judges getting ready to kick the bucket. One of them is John Paul Stevens, the most whacked-out liberal on the Supreme bench.

"Original intent" language is a joke. The Founders never intended for money powers to have this much political clout. Also the Founders didn't deem blacks worthy of the right to vote.

Original intent is just flowery language to decieve the gullible into believing they have a romantic historical promise that will never come to fruition.

It should also be noted that while surgical abortion wasn't a procedure in the 1700's induced micarriage was often performed by physicians per a woman's request or even the request of her husband, especially if the woman was white and the father was believed to be black. Typically physicians wouldn't perform such procedures after "quickening" where fetal movement could be detected. Abortion's legality in the United States wasn't challenged until the mid 1800s. This is why so many "original intent" justices often rule in favor of choice. This is how they trick us. So in the abortion debate nominating "original intent" justices is a double code. It is meant to energize the religious base and reassure the conservative social liberals who really call the shots. The idea of "original intent" means very little. I'm not pro-abortion. I'm just presenting a little info bros.