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sherr34
01-10-2008, 11:04 AM
This is something worth reading. It was sent to me in an email today.

Who is Barack Obama?

Probable U.S. Presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHEIST from Wichita, Kansas

Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was 2 years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia.

When Obama was 6 years old the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta . He also spent 2 years in a Catholic school.

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that 'He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic School.'

Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.

Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta.

Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world.

Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking Major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background.

Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy.

The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President of the United States, one of their own!!!

Also, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office - he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran (their equivalency to our Bible, but very different beliefs)

Please forward to everyone you know. Would you want this man leading our country?

Walkbyfaith7
01-10-2008, 11:15 AM
I think stuff like this if it is all true will come out if he is the nominee. For some reason the democrats are not saying much and I think the republicans are keeping this like having an ace in the hole when it comes down to two candidates.

Walkbyfaith7
01-10-2008, 11:17 AM
Also I heard the Koran thing was an urban legend. What sources can you give me which verify this happening?

Mr. Steinway
01-10-2008, 11:26 AM
This info is not true according to Snopes!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

Walkbyfaith7
01-10-2008, 11:50 AM
Could you please list your sources and please do not tell me you believe this because of something you read or heard on some conspiracy tv channel.

Maybe some proof before acceptance?

Ferd
01-10-2008, 11:53 AM
Pianoman is right. this is false. Obama is not Muslim. I think it is more worthy to talk about his affliliation with the church he belongs to. That is a christian church that has made a lot of contriversial comments.

Margies3
01-10-2008, 11:55 AM
Pianoman is right. this is false. Obama is not Muslim. I think it is more worthy to talk about his affliliation with the church he belongs to. That is a christian church that has made a lot of contriversial comments.

Is the church affiliation email correct? Have you seen that? I have not been able to track anything down that tells me for sure whether this really is his church or not. What do you all think about it?

LadyChocolate
01-10-2008, 11:57 AM
Pianoman is right. this is false. Obama is not Muslim. I think it is more worthy to talk about his affliliation with the church he belongs to. That is a christian church that has made a lot of contriversial comments.

I received that email and although I don't care for the democratic party, I figured it was just more propaganda for the other party. I don't put too much stock into things like this.

Praxeas
01-10-2008, 12:00 PM
This is something worth reading. It was sent to me in an email today.

Who is Barack Obama?

Probable U.S. Presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHEIST from Wichita, Kansas

Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was 2 years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia.

When Obama was 6 years old the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta . He also spent 2 years in a Catholic school.

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that 'He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic School.'

Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.

Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta.

Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world.

Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking Major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background.

Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy.

The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President of the United States, one of their own!!!

Also, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office - he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran (their equivalency to our Bible, but very different beliefs)

Please forward to everyone you know. Would you want this man leading our country?
Good grief. People please don't believe every chain email that you receive. These things are bogus for the most part. It was NOT Obama that was sworn in to office and did not use the bible but a Quran. That was Ellison

"Minnesota Democrat Keith Ellison, the first Muslim to be elected to the U.S. Congress, garnered lots of attention after he announced he wanted to use the Qur'an when sworn into office.

The video notes, while he is the first Muslim elected to U.S. office, he is not the first congressman to request something other than the Bible for the ceremony..."

http://www.videosift.com/video/US-Congressman-sworn-in-on-the-Quran-not-the-Bible

Research this stuff people, don't just believe every chain email that comes.

Walkbyfaith7
01-10-2008, 12:00 PM
There is a chance he could be in the closet and could change though.
Don't you think?

Walkbyfaith7
01-10-2008, 12:01 PM
Good grief. People please don't believe every chain email that you receive. These things are bogus for the most part. It was NOT Obama that was sworn in to office and did not use the bible but a Quran. That was Ellison

"Minnesota Democrat Keith Ellison, the first Muslim to be elected to the U.S. Congress, garnered lots of attention after he announced he wanted to use the Qur'an when sworn into office.

The video notes, while he is the first Muslim elected to U.S. office, he is not the first congressman to request something other than the Bible for the ceremony..."

http://www.videosift.com/video/US-Congressman-sworn-in-on-the-Quran-not-the-Bible

Research this stuff people, don't just believe every chain email that comes.


lol I like the way you express yourself and I agree!

Praxeas
01-10-2008, 12:02 PM
Is the church affiliation email correct? Have you seen that? I have not been able to track anything down that tells me for sure whether this really is his church or not. What do you all think about it?
He does seem to belong to a Church that is afro-centric....maybe there is some racism with that church....some have suggested that.

But the organization it self is supposed to be evangelical

sherr34
01-10-2008, 12:05 PM
I didnt know this was one of those chain letters and that it wasnt true! Sorry for posting it.:drama

Praxeas
01-10-2008, 12:07 PM
The so called Muslim school was not a radical private Muslim school where kids are indoctrinated

Interviews by The Associated Press at the elementary school in Jakarta found that it's a public and secular institution that has been open to students of all faiths since before the White House hopeful attended in the late 1960s.Obama, who was born in Hawaii, moved to Indonesia at age 6 to live with his mother and stepfather, attending schools in the country until age 10, when he returned to Hawaii to live with his maternal grandparents.

"The allegations are completely baseless," said Akmad Solichin, the vice principal at SDN Menteng 1, who added, "Yes, most of our students are Muslim, but there are Christians as well. Everyone's welcome here ... it's a public school."

"SDN Menteng 1 is a public primary school that is open to people of all faiths," said the spokesman, Sutopo, who goes by only one name. "Moreover, he studied earlier at Fransiskus Assisi, which is clearly a Catholic school."

Obama later transferred to SDN Menteng 1 - the elite, secular elementary school at the center of the controversy. The school is public but is very competitive and has exceptionally high standards. It is located in one of the most affluent parts of Jakarta and attracts mostly middle- to upper-class students, among them several of former dictator Suharto's grandchildren.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16813267/

Praxeas
01-10-2008, 12:07 PM
BTW how many other candidates have skeletons in their closet that they repented of?

Praxeas
01-10-2008, 12:09 PM
You're forgiven :-)

By now, I suspect any and all emails like that to be chain emails....since the person that sent it to me received it from someone that received it from someone etc etc....so I usually do some research..

And folks...Pepsi is still not giving out a dollar for each email you send out :toofunny

Walkbyfaith7
01-10-2008, 12:11 PM
I didnt know this was one of those chain letters and that it wasnt true! Sorry for posting it.:drama

No problem but you are not the only one that is guilty of it. Most people tend to believe things they read and hear without researching it for themselves.

I think it's because we generally like to believe people are honest and quite frankly it's time consuming to research everything.

Walkbyfaith7
01-10-2008, 12:12 PM
And folks...Pepsi is still not giving out a dollar for each email you send out :toofunny


haha, too funny.

TRFrance
01-10-2008, 12:22 PM
All it takes is a few minutes of Google searching to verify if a lot of this stuff is true or not. Its not that hard.

Barack is not a muslim. He's a [self-professing] Christian. His church is part of the United Churches of Christ denomination.

...

Sister Truth Seeker
01-10-2008, 12:55 PM
This is something worth reading. It was sent to me in an email today.

Who is Barack Obama?

Probable U.S. Presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHEIST from Wichita, Kansas

Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was 2 years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia.

When Obama was 6 years old the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta . He also spent 2 years in a Catholic school.

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that 'He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic School.'

Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.

Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta.

Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world.

Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking Major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background.

Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy.

The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President of the United States, one of their own!!!

Also, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office - he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran (their equivalency to our Bible, but very different beliefs)

Please forward to everyone you know. Would you want this man leading our country?Ahhh this is good information....because all I had seen was his inrollment in the christian church....this artical if true is very disturbing to say the least....the last thing this country needs is a muslim president...or a woman for that matter .......esp.........HILLery


OH OK>..just went back and saw the SNOPES thing....glad the truth came up!

DividedThigh
01-10-2008, 12:57 PM
Obama is a socialist democrat that agrees with abortion and has never seen a tax on someone else he didnt like, that is enough for me without all the embellishment , distortion of the facts, dt:drama

Ferd
01-10-2008, 01:01 PM
Is the church affiliation email correct? Have you seen that? I have not been able to track anything down that tells me for sure whether this really is his church or not. What do you all think about it?

Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. this is a link to the aspect of the pastors idology that has caused some contraversy


http://www.tucc.org/scholarship_pdf/black%20value%20system.pdf

Praxeas
01-10-2008, 01:19 PM
Ahhh this is good information....because all I had seen was his inrollment in the christian church....this artical if true is very disturbing to say the least....the last thing this country needs is a muslim president...or a woman for that matter .......esp.........HILLery


OH OK>..just went back and saw the SNOPES thing....glad the truth came up!

Funny...I just received this chain email too and it purports that Snopes confirms all this when in fact it refutes it

Praxeas
01-10-2008, 01:21 PM
Obama is a socialist democrat that agrees with abortion and has never seen a tax on someone else he didnt like, that is enough for me without all the embellishment , distortion of the facts, dt:drama
Well at least your view is based on facts and not wild speculation....but I am torn between voting for a Socialists that is disquised as a democrat or a socialist that is disquised as a Republican....the only difference now it seems is that the Republicans promise tax cuts for everyone when the only ones that truely benefit are those that have loads of money and the Democrats don't even promise tax cuts but secretly hope they get them for themselves (the wealthy ones) :stirpot

AmazingGrace
01-10-2008, 01:24 PM
Things like this make me just wanna scream,,,,,,,,, PEOPLE....... This is why I hate forwards in emails!!!!! Cuz no one will check them out and I dont have time to and dont want to waist my time checking snoops! :)

DividedThigh
01-10-2008, 01:28 PM
Well at least your view is based on facts and not wild speculation....but I am torn between voting for a Socialists that is disquised as a democrat or a socialist that is disquised as a Republican....the only difference now it seems is that the Republicans promise tax cuts for everyone when the only ones that truely benefit are those that have loads of money and the Democrats don't even promise tax cuts but secretly hope they get them for themselves (the wealthy ones) :stirpot

hey prax i am not one of those wealthy folks and the tax cuts have helped me a great deal, lol,dt:drama

Cindy
01-10-2008, 01:35 PM
You're forgiven :-)

By now, I suspect any and all emails like that to be chain emails....since the person that sent it to me received it from someone that received it from someone etc etc....so I usually do some research..

And folks...Pepsi is still not giving out a dollar for each email you send out :toofunny

But are they giving out free Pepsi's? If so send them to BOOMM>>>>>:toofunny:happydance:stirpot

Tina
01-10-2008, 01:57 PM
Things like this make me just wanna scream,,,,,,,,, PEOPLE....... This is why I hate forwards in emails!!!!! Cuz no one will check them out and I dont have time to and dont want to waist my time checking snoops! :)

Snopes www.snopes.com has a lot of interesting reading. LOL Some of the stuff is true, some not true.... but interesting reading just the same.

There's another site that's similar.... something about urban legends... I just can't remember the link at the moment.

Edit-- found the link...

http://www.scambusters.org/legends.html

Praxeas
01-10-2008, 05:39 PM
hey prax i am not one of those wealthy folks and the tax cuts have helped me a great deal, lol,dt:drama
Oh there's good news tonight! :toofunny

Praxeas
01-10-2008, 05:40 PM
But are they giving out free Pepsi's? If so send them to BOOMM>>>>>:toofunny:happydance:stirpot
Ok..now that thar is funny! :toofunny

Apprehended
01-11-2008, 08:47 AM
Ladies and gentlemen...

Beware. There is a Trojan horse at the gate.

You are warned. You are warned.

Neck
01-11-2008, 08:54 AM
I think stuff like this if it is all true will come out if he is the nominee. For some reason the democrats are not saying much and I think the republicans are keeping this like having an ace in the hole when it comes down to two candidates.

They might attack his Christianity but they would never attack his Muslim history.

BoredOutOfMyMind
01-11-2008, 09:07 AM
You're forgiven :-)

By now, I suspect any and all emails like that to be chain emails....since the person that sent it to me received it from someone that received it from someone etc etc....so I usually do some research..

And folks...Pepsi is still not giving out a dollar for each email you send out :toofunny

Real Christians do NOT drink Pepsi!

:vomit

BoredOutOfMyMind
01-11-2008, 09:09 AM
But are they giving out free Pepsi's? If so send them to BOOMM>>>>>:toofunny:happydance:stirpot

Don't make me hurt you!

:angry

Ferd
01-11-2008, 09:10 AM
Things like this make me just wanna scream,,,,,,,,, PEOPLE....... This is why I hate forwards in emails!!!!! Cuz no one will check them out and I dont have time to and dont want to waist my time checking snoops! :)

I am the black hole of chain emails. I dont care how nice they are, I delete them, almost all get deleted unread.


send me an email to talk to me, tell me about your life or what ever, and you WILL get a reply.

send me something you forwarded, even if it is greatly inspirational and even if I read it, I will delete it.

Mr. Steinway
01-11-2008, 10:06 AM
They might attack his Christianity but they would never attack his Muslim history.
If he gets the Democrat nomination, they'll attack his Muslim history! Count on it! The media will swarm the school he attended in Pakistan looking for something!

DividedThigh
01-11-2008, 10:15 AM
that will happen bro for sure, i am sure the clintons have not even fired any salvos yet, they have the most efficient attack machine in the history of mankind, just wait, lol,dt :drama

pelathais
01-11-2008, 10:39 AM
If he gets the Democrat nomination, they'll attack his Muslim history! Count on it! The media will swarm the school he attended in Pakistan looking for something!
He didn't attend a school in Pakistan, it was Indonesia. CNN already did a report and interview with the school's current headmaster. The place appears to be a public school. That part of Indonesia is predominately Muslim so the school itself was "predominately Muslim."

I'm more concerned about Obama's past as a $13,000 a year "community organizer." I know that was probably well intentioned and all, but most "community organizers" that I've met or seen have been "raging commie loons."