GREAT MEN: Who Do You Admire?

[Steadfast]

"Once upon a time there was a forum that sometimes gets a little carried away with questions, opinions and unfounded speculation about various ministries..." :shocked:

Let's face it, there have been times when things have gotten carried away here towards the ministry. Thankfully, we've gotten much better in that area. I suspect a huge 'thank you' is in order to the Admins and posters for maintaining a higher level of dignity of late.

However, something came to me tonight as I preached for Bro. Ewing in Lake Charles: We DO have some men among us that are priceless and worthy of 'double honor'. Outside of my own Pastor there is no man more revered in my eyes than Bro. Murrell Ewing has become.

I now seem to preach for him on a fairly regular basis and cherish the touch of this great Bishop on my life. For a man like myself who has pretty much been a 'loner' most of my ministry it's refreshing to have someone in my life that I trust and respect like I do Bro. Ewing.

Instead of questioning the motives or critiqueing the styles of ministers let's turn this positive by taking the time to find someone who we think is worthy of honor.

QUESTION: Who is that ONE Minister (outside of your own Pastor) that you have great admiration for? And, in a few words, explain what there is about them that makes you honor them.

I wonder if we'll be able to see a lot about the individuals posting by getting a glimpse of who they admire in the Ministry... and why they admire them?

[Steadfast]

By the way, Bro. Phil Jones, I wondered if I might by chance see you again tonight in Lake Charles. Someday we're going to get a chance to meet and really fellowship a while!

[Ignited]

Outside of my own pastor I really like Pastor Jeff Arnold from Florida. I've heard his older sermons, attended a few of them when he was here in Wisconsin, and he has grown a lot, he has toned down a lot. He's can make you laugh, but he can also make you think. He always gives his testimony, and he's very approachable. He will also stand for truth, name sin specifically, and even stand up to other preachers who have come to act as if they cannot be wrong. He's a cool preacher.

Ignited.

[rrford]

I like me. Who do you like?

[Cindy]

I very much respect and admire Bishop Upton. He preaches straight from the Word with Holy Ghost anointing every time I have heard him preach.

[Coonskinner]

I have a long, long list.

J.T. Pugh
Paul Price
James Groce
James Kilgore
Murrell Ewing
Doug White
David Shatwell
Chester Wright
Larry Booker
Ron Wofford
Carlton Watkins
Marrell Cornwell
Martyn Ballastero
G.A. Mangun


Among those that have crossed over the western slope...

Verbal Bean
Carl Ballastero
I.H. Terry

There are more, but that's a start.

[pentecostisalive]

Nate Wilson
Johnny Godair
Floyd Odom
Crawford Coon
Kenny Godair
& Larry Booker

:)

[Raven]

I too can think of many.
Clyde Haney
David Gray
Paul Price
Kenneth Haney
T.F. Tenney
Vaughn Morton

But the one preacher that really got in to my very spirit was J.T. Pugh. I've listened to him [in person and on tape] more than any other preacher. From my highschool graduation in 1963 until this present day. Not only were his messages deeply spiritual but his delivery is that of a poet. Non-pareil!

Raven

[Ron]

There are a few, but aside from my Pastors I have had, one that comes to mind is the late E.L. Holley.

He spoke a message and GC in 1985 that wasn't rowdy or loud but spoke volumes in his elderly souther voice.

I wish I was able to hear more of him.

[OneAccord]

Pastor Don Johnson, Memphis, Tennessee. He preaches the truth in love, and has worked hard in bringing people together.

Bro. Rayford Strange. A inspiring preacher whos wisdom has blessed us all.

And the late T. Grady Reece. A prophet who could say more with 10 words than most can say in a lifetime.

[Sister Alvear]

Nate Wilson
Johnny Godair
Floyd Odom
Crawford Coon
Kenny Godair
& Larry Booker

:)

Looking for an office in the wwf? (Just teasing)

I sure like to heat Larry Booker preach and Crawford Coon and Gayle I have known about all my life...good people.

[Sister Alvear]

I hate to name names because there are so many however I am deeply thankful for men that are kind and down to earth...spitting in the mike, saying hard almost cruel things to get people's attention does not make a man a great preacher in my book.

I am impressed by men who are JESUS-like. men that serve and care for others not men that think they are on some higher level than others...

[Sister Alvear]

There are many pastors and preachers I deeply admire and respect and time would not permit for me to list them all here...
Brother Steve Pixler is a prince of a pastor and such a gentleman. I admire his love for young preachers and his vision for his city.
I admire Brother Ben Weeks and his kindness to our family everytime we are in his area.
I really like pastors that you don't feel like they like in some kind of make believe world. Pastors you can talk to and not feel they are doing you a favor by listening.

[Sister Alvear]

I have a hard time no matter how "big" name the preacher is if all he wants to do is run other preachers down. Instead of being uplifted I feel depressed...I had just sat down with one and he begin to talk about where we had been and what he knew...I really felt sad that so many good things could have been said and all he said was bad things...

If you travel much you hear things like this, If you are there you cannot come here or next time you are home visit us and don't go there...lol...when are we ever going to grow up in Pentecost?

Pastors that have a problem with you visiting the church across town...pastors that want you to take sides in fights and disagreements you are not even involved in...

I enjoy being around poeple that don't care who we bless or who blesses us...I like that kind of spirit.

Are there people I don't care for? Of course but you can come to Brazil and preach for anybody and then come visit us we don't care. Who is your friend may not be our friend but we will not try to kill your friend or make you feel unconfortable at our home or churches because you might be a friend to someone that may not be our friend. My husband (Brother Raul Alvear) is one of the kindest persons you could ever met. If he speaks against someone then I know that person has problems because it is not his nature to speak evil of others.

[Sister Truth Seeker]

I have to say

Jesus

[Sister Alvear]

I have to say

Jesus

The greatest of all! Blessings to you, my friend.

[Sister Truth Seeker]

The greatest of all! Blessings to you, my friend.Blessings to you too Sister!

[chseeads]

None of the 'famous' ones hold any special rank to me. I'm sure there's many that've done good things in their own time and place, but I don't have any direct connections there.

David Beecham (he's technically my adoptive pastor though) and Fred Stanger are a couple good ones.

[Neck]

Nate Wilson
Johnny Godair
Floyd Odom
Crawford Coon
Kenny Godair
& Larry Booker

:)

If you are a minister you are heading to Tulsa....

[Sister Alvear]

I always liked to hear Kenneth Philips preach but I do not know him personally. I remember amybe right after he left the UPC or during that time period he preached at a ALJC conference the theme of every message was souls.

[Neck]

I am no longer attendind a UPCI Church. I am still Oneness.

I respect:

My pastor Jeff Butler and his wife Tami.
Frank Tamel - Oak Creek, WI UPCI
Eddie Cupples - TN
John Ragsdale - Nashville
Joseph Garlington
Jeff Arnold - UPCI
Rex Johnson
John Cupit - New Orleans, LA UPCI

Many others some past who are now gone.....

Top of the list for his dedication and love for God my dad:

John A Eckstadt

Nate

[Neck]

I always liked to hear Kenneth Philips preach but I do not know him personally. I remember amybe right after he left the UPC or during that time period he preached at a ALJC conference the theme of every message was souls.

You should hear the old 'Sheeves for Christ records".

KP would preach a sermon on soul winning every year.

My mom has like 5 of them from 1970-1975 in that time period.

I would play them over and over again as a young child.

[Sister Alvear]

hey, brother Neckstadt...you have mentioned many times your father is there any where I can download him preaching? He must have been a great person. Blessings to you.

[Sister Alvear]

I like to listen to brother Cupples also. He sure is down to earth. I like to listen to Lee Stoneking.

[pentecostisalive]

If you are a minister you are heading to Tulsa....

I am a minister, but I am not heading to Tulsa. I do appreciate these men, but the post was a joke. :)

[Sister Alvear]

You should hear the old 'Sheeves for Christ records".

KP would preach a sermon on soul winning every year.

My mom has like 5 of them from 1970-1975 in that time period.

I would play them over and over again as a young child.


I love soulwinning messages...

[Theophil]

One of the greateast messages I ever heard preached was preached by George Glass Sr. at Anaheim, Gen. Conf.-"Thou Hast Magnified Thy Word Above All Thy Name".

My current picks for "great men" are Allan Abbey and Eli Hernandez.

[Ferd]

In no particular order

Robert Trapani
A man of wisdom and kindness that has been a long time friend of my mom and dad. He has spoken so much truth into my life. A true Prince among us.
George Glass Sr.
If you don’t know who this is, well, you need to find out. One of the greatest men of God ever. Period. His GC sermon “He has exalted his Word above His Name” should be a must listen to every preacher in Pentecost.
TF Tenney
Graduated from High School with my dad. I remember going to Youth Camp as a young kid and hiding from him until I “Got right with God”…. The man can simply look into your soul.
V. A. Guidroz
If ever there was a man who understood what it means to “do the right thing” it is V.A. Guidroz. He is my bishop and confidant and a man of great wisdom. Doing “it” right, has been his greatest lesson. (and if you think Thad can play a Hammond, you need to hear Sister Guidroz play!)
Tom Coppell
My youth pastor when I was a kid. TC meant more to me than he will ever know. Just a great guy.

[Steve Epley]

Elder Jonathan Alvear
Elder James Groce
Elder Tommy Jackson
Elder Phil White
Elder Dallas Mefford
Elder Fred Shepard
and many, many more
The those who have gone on:
Elder R. C. Cavaness
Elder Carl Ballestero
Elder Joseph Meade
Elder M. E. Burr
Elder Verbal Bean
and many, many more.

[Ferd]

One of the greateast messages I ever heard preached was preached by George Glass Sr. at Anaheim, Gen. Conf.-"Thou Hast Magnified Thy Word Above All Thy Name".

My current picks for "great men" are Allan Abbey and Eli Hernandez.

I had not seen this before I posted, but that is exactly what I said! LOL!

GLGSR was awesome. He used to come to our house a lot. he often tucked me in bed and said my night time prayers with me.

[Theophil]

I had not seen this before I posted, but that is exactly what I said! LOL!

GLGSR was awesome. He used to come to our house a lot. he often tucked me in bed and said my night time prayers with me.

That's awesome, man! I wished I was you. LOL
I agree with you about Bro. Trapani too.

[Sister Alvear]

so many great men have graced Pentecost! thanks to all the men of God that have helped all us on our journey to that city.

[Pragmatist]

I admire my pastor, because he's not a big name and doesn't seek accolades or political positions. He leads a simple, Godly life, and truly loves people and wants to see them saved.

[StillStanding]

The preachers that have had the biggest impact on my life outside of my pastors is TFT, Rex Johnson, and Merrill Ewing. I highly respect each of them!

[chseeads]

The preachers that have had the biggest impact on my life outside of my pastors is TFT, Rex Johnson, and Merrill Ewing. I highly respect each of them!

Aside from knowing how to spell their names....*cough* :carrot:

[Cindy]

There are a few, but aside from my Pastors I have had, one that comes to mind is the late E.L. Holley.

He spoke a message and GC in 1985 that wasn't rowdy or loud but spoke volumes in his elderly souther voice.

I wish I was able to hear more of him.

I so agree Bro. Ron, he was a great man of God.

[Whole Hearted]

First my late pastor H. C. Hoyt

the late E. L. Holley

Johny Godair (such a great soul winner and preacher)

Tim Copeland ( great preacher and a fine Christian gentleman)

Steve McMullen

[Apprehended]

James Kilgore...

His great humility, unpretentiousness, Christ-likeness, love, mercy, and his compassion for the WHOLE WORLD while standing true without fear or compromise. He is as firm as steel but you would never know it with his clothing of velvet. He is as deep as Jacob's well and just as refreshing. His presence is a light, his words are as sweet as honey, his wisdom is greater than Solomon's, his sacrifice is seldom equaled.

Why do I admire him? If I could only count the ways.

[Cindy]

Paul E. Hosch. A very humble and great man of God.

[mama bear]

Billy Cole
Lee Stoneking

[Felicity]

Outside of my own pastors, Bible School teachers, peers and other men who I would regard as perhaps favorite 'preachers' I would have to list:

Rev. N.A. Urshan - former UPC Gen. Supt.
Rev. H.E. Scism - former UPC Gen. Foreign Missions Dir.
Rev. George Shalm - former UPC Asian Reg. Field Supervisor
Rev. R.A. Beesley - former Atlantic District UPC Dist. Supt.

I cite these men because they have impacted my life ministerially but also because we've worked with them and seen them up close and personal both or either here at home or in foreign countries.

Therefore :) ...... they are definitely worthy of the kind of honour and respect that I give them and I thank them for the impact they have had on my life. :thumbsup

[LadyChocolate]

Oh, where do I begin? I am thankful for the many men AND women who have labored in the gospel.!!!

Ok, here goes, in no particular order..just how they come to mind!

1. Bro. Jonathan Alvear
2. Bro. Ballestero
3. Bro. Garret
4. Bro. D. White
5. Bro. Groce
6. Bro. Davis
7. Bro. W. Bass
8. Bro. Lambeth


I have heard in person, Sis. Alvear and Sis. George. Of the several women I have had heard teach and preach, these two women stand out the most in my mind. What a blessing they are!

There are many, many more.... but my espresso hasn't kicked in!

[Cindy]

Sister Willie Johnson.

[rgcraig]

Papa George Glass

[Cindy]

Bro. James Renfro Sr.
Bro. James Renfro Jr.

[Felicity]

I was wanting to mention some women too, who have also majorly impacted my life in spiritual and other ways:

Sis. Florrie Stickles - wonderful consecrated woman of prayer, mentor, Bible School teacher, & one of the most Godly saints and examples to follow I've never known.

Sis. Margaret Shalm - wonderful consecrated woman of prayer, missionary and a personal friend.

Sis. Bobby Wendell. Do I need to say why? :)

Sis. Caroline Wickett - Pastor's wife, personal friend, present and long time Atlantic Dist. L.A. Director.

I love these women and many others too of course, but these deserve special mention. :thumbsup

[RevDWW]

Good lists!

I would think that any list of great men who need to be admired should include C.M. Becton. He has one of the sweetest spirits I have ever meet. He made a deep impression on me by being so friendly and genuine in an encounter we had. He treated me as though we had known each other for some time even though it was our first meeting. He took his time to talk to me as if I were important even when I was not in any position to do anything for him and relatively, organizationally wise, a nobody.

[Felicity]

CM Becton!! Definitely!! :thumbsup

[Rachel]

Sis. Margaret Shalm - wonderful consecrated woman of prayer, missionary and a personal friend.


I loved her! I rented from her for four or five months .. but we used to visit with her and listen to her stories.

[rgcraig]

Good lists!

I would think that any list of great men who need to be admired should include C.M. Becton. He has one of the sweetest spirits I have ever meet. He made a deep impression on me by being so friendly and genuine in an encounter we had. He treated me as though we had known each other for some time even though it was our first meeting. He took his time to talk to me as if I were important even when I was not in any position to do anything for him and relatively, organizationally wise, a nobody.

Pure class!

[Ferd]

I was wanting to mention some women too, who have also majorly impacted my life in spiritual and other ways:

Sis. Florrie Stickles - wonderful consecrated woman of prayer, mentor, Bible School teacher, & one of the most Godly saints and examples to follow I've never known.

Sis. Margaret Shalm - wonderful consecrated woman of prayer, missionary and a personal friend.

Sis. Bobby Wendell. Do I need to say why? :)

Sis. Caroline Wickett - Pastor's wife, personal friend, present and long time Atlantic Dist. L.A. Director.

I love these women and many others too of course, but these deserve special mention. :thumbsup


agreed.

Sister Nona Freeman has a special place in my heart. Ive been blessed to be able to spend some time with her on occasion thru the years. I am not sure she is really human. I think she might be an angle sent from heaven.

i see her kind of like we view the great bible charctors!

[Neck]

I was wanting to mention some women too, who have also majorly impacted my life in spiritual and other ways:

Sis. Florrie Stickles - wonderful consecrated woman of prayer, mentor, Bible School teacher, & one of the most Godly saints and examples to follow I've never known.

Sis. Margaret Shalm - wonderful consecrated woman of prayer, missionary and a personal friend.

Sis. Bobby Wendell. Do I need to say why? :)

Sis. Caroline Wickett - Pastor's wife, personal friend, present and long time Atlantic Dist. L.A. Director.

I love these women and many others too of course, but these deserve special mention. :thumbsup

Jenni Miller missionary now working in China. i know her personally. Awesome lady and minister...

Janet Trout - Very good friend of my Mom and Dad..

[Felicity]

I loved her! I rented from her for four or five months .. but we used to visit with her and listen to her stories.She was SO much fun! Really really good sport :), but she was also classy and knew how to PRAY!!!! And oh how she loved to shop. :)

Her son and daughter in law (Allan and Georgie) are also one of the missionary couples I admire most in the UPC. Along with the Brackens in Taiwan, the Corcorans who were in Pakistan and so so so many others. Love love love the Rodenbushes! Where do I start? Where do I end? There are so many!

:)

[RevDWW]

agreed.

Sister Nona Freeman has a special place in my heart. Ive been blessed to be able to spend some time with her on occasion thru the years. I am not sure she is really human. I think she might be an angle sent from heaven.

i see her kind of like we view the great bible charctors!

I love Sis Nona. She had the day services at Wisconsin Camp meeting some years back and I sat in rapt attention to her Spirit anointed teaching. I remember one service where after she had been preaching for what seemed a few minutes I happen to look at my watch and and hour and a half had gone by and it was fantastic. She did a great job that whole camp meeting!

[Felicity]

agreed.

Sister Nona Freeman has a special place in my heart. Ive been blessed to be able to spend some time with her on occasion thru the years. I am not sure she is really human. I think she might be an angle sent from heaven.

i see her kind of like we view the great bible charctors!Oh yes!! Nona Freeman! Absolutely! What an awesome woman of God! What an inspiration many of these women have been/are!

[Neck]

hey, brother Neckstadt...you have mentioned many times your father is there any where I can download him preaching? He must have been a great person. Blessings to you.

I do have files. You have to be able to download a large file. PM me your email address. Let's see if they get to you.

If not then I will send you some of his sermons to where you are located.

It is so cool to hear the word of the Lord from the men in the past.

SO many of their words are needed for today...

God Bless,

Nathan

[LadyChocolate]

Yes, Sis. Nona Freeman was another woman I have been blessed to hear: She touched my soul many years ago when I was teen. I will never forget it!

[Neck]

I am a minister, but I am not heading to Tulsa. I do appreciate these men, but the post was a joke. :)

I figured it was a fun message. There are names on the list that we admire as well. Wayne McClain spoke at my dad's funeral in 1978. They were the best of friends....

[Neck]

In no particular order

Robert Trapani
A man of wisdom and kindness that has been a long time friend of my mom and dad. He has spoken so much truth into my life. A true Prince among us.
George Glass Sr.
If you don’t know who this is, well, you need to find out. One of the greatest men of God ever. Period. His GC sermon “He has exalted his Word above His Name” should be a must listen to every preacher in Pentecost.
TF Tenney
Graduated from High School with my dad. I remember going to Youth Camp as a young kid and hiding from him until I “Got right with God”…. The man can simply look into your soul.
V. A. Guidroz
If ever there was a man who understood what it means to “do the right thing” it is V.A. Guidroz. He is my bishop and confidant and a man of great wisdom. Doing “it” right, has been his greatest lesson. (and if you think Thad can play a Hammond, you need to hear Sister Guidroz play!)
Tom Coppell
My youth pastor when I was a kid. TC meant more to me than he will ever know. Just a great guy.

Robert Trapani is my sister's father in law. She is married to Anthony Trapani. Robert is a great man of God, one of those under appreciated men in the UPCI.

VA Guidroz - I have his tape in my hand and will listhen to it again this week.

The title: 'The Awesome Anguishing call of a lonely God!

I got to talk with him one on one in Sept 1980.

He spent 3 days getting to talk with him one on one after church in Oak Creek, WI.

I asked him to pray over me.

He remembered my dad.

he did not just say a prayer he and I went into Pastor Frank Tamel's office that was in pastor Tamel's house.

Bro Guidroz prayed with me for over an hour..

He must have been almost 80 at the time....

Great man of God....

[Neck]

Elder Jonathan Alvear
Elder James Groce
Elder Tommy Jackson
Elder Phil White
Elder Dallas Mefford
Elder Fred Shepard
and many, many more
The those who have gone on:
Elder R. C. Cavaness
Elder Carl Ballestero
Elder Joseph Meade
Elder M. E. Burr
Elder Verbal Bean
and many, many more.

Bro Epley You have known some of the greats..

I love you as well...


aybe some day we will cross paths and have a chance to meet...

Respectfully

Nathan

[Ferd]

Robert Trapani is my sister's father in law. She is married to Anthony Trapani. Robert is a great man of God, one of those under appreciated men in the UPCI.

VA Guidroz - I have his tape in my hand and will listhen to it again this week.

The title: 'The Awesome Anguishing call of a lonely God!

I got to talk with him one on one in Sept 1980.

He spent 3 days getting to talk with him one on one after church in Oak Creek, WI.

I asked him to pray over me.

He remembered my dad.

he did not just say a prayer he and I went into Pastor Frank Tamel's office that was in pastor Tamel's house.

Bro Guidroz prayed with me for over an hour..

He must have been almost 80 at the time....

Great man of God....


That was the Sr. Brother Guidroz. His son (V.A.) is my bishop and former pastor.

[Neck]

so many great men have graced Pentecost! thanks to all the men of God that have helped all us on our journey to that city.

If I had the resources. It would be cool to have a place to profile all these great men of God.

So if someone wanted to read about them they could go to the site.

Maybe that will happen in the future....

It will be great to meet them all on the otherside...

[MrsBOOMM]

First, I too have to mention my Dad as my top choice. He is a man with more integrity than anyone I know. He didn't preach a word that he didn't live by every day of the week!


Here are some of my favorite preachers with a sermon that has ministered to me and made a difference in my life.

CM Becton A Certain Sound

Jeff Arnold Looking For A Vessel

Jerry Jones Devil You Missed Again

Nona Freeman The Blessing

Alan Oggs One Last Night With The Frogs

Doug While Teddy Bear Testimonies

Scott Graham The Layaway Plan

Charles Grisham Have You Seen A Song Lately

JT Pugh Your First Night In Hell

Just a few.....there are soooooooo many more.

[dixonic2]

Hmmm...I know some of the great people known on here. I'd have to say Bro L. Stoneking (saw him at the Ohio camp about 2 years ago and it was awesome!). And there are many others, but I sometimes forget names :( Maybe if I think of another, I"ll post

[RandyWayne]

One man I really admire and how has taught me to look at one particular group of people with much more compassion than I once did is Ray Highfield.

And while everyone seems to be mentioning ministers, the title of the thread isn't as exclusionary. Some other great men that could be listed include:

Johannes Gutenberg
Carl Sagan
Albert Einstein
Ronald Reagan
Martin Luther
Nicolaus Copernicus

[Neck]

That was the Sr. Brother Guidroz. His son (V.A.) is my bishop and former pastor.

His Name was Also V.A. Guidroz...

Great man....

[Neck]

There are a few, but aside from my Pastors I have had, one that comes to mind is the late E.L. Holley.

He spoke a message and GC in 1985 that wasn't rowdy or loud but spoke volumes in his elderly souther voice.

I wish I was able to hear more of him.

E.L. Holley great man. I have a Pentecostal Herald PDF file from Jan 1986 that talks about the 1985 GC in Ft. Worth Texas.

My brother met his wife at that Conference in Ft. Worth.

I remember his talking at the GC in 1985...

I went out to eat one night with Todd Hanby (he had a date), Myles Young (Who was with Jonny Godair's Daughter), I was with Tanya Raper from Mississippi. Bro Nathan Urshan, sis urshan and Bro Becton ate at the same place one night.. I did not remember Sis Becton.

They all walked by our table and Bro Urshan stopped to talk with us.

He commented now here is "Who's who in Pentecost".

He knew us all.

He acknowleged Todd, Myles and then got to me.

He reached out his hand, I stodd up and we hugged.

He asked how my mom was doing...

That was a fun night..

Bro Urshan had spoke at my dad's funeral in 1978...

We had a very interesting conversation that night at the table, Todd, Myles and myself.

My brother had gone out with Johnny Godair's daughter the night before..

Well that is one really old memory....

[marthaolivia]

Elder D. E. Haymon
Bro. Billy Cole
Bro. Donald Bryan

[Tina]

Papa George Glass


I have heard this name all of my life. I don't really remember his preaching, as I was only 5 years old. He was the minister who was preaching the sermon that brought my dad to an altar at Tennessee Campmeeting in Perryville TN many years ago--and he prayed with my Dad that night until he received the Holy Ghost. If not for that sermon, that led my Dad to the altar-- my life would not have been the same.

[Ferd]

I have heard this name all of my life. I don't really remember his preaching, as I was only 5 years old. He was the minister who was preaching the sermon that brought my dad to an altar at Tennessee Campmeeting in Perryville TN many years ago--and he prayed with my Dad that night until he received the Holy Ghost. If not for that sermon, that led my Dad to the altar-- my life would not have been the same.

Tina, you should look around the internet, there are a number of his sermons availble. one has been mentioned here from a GC
"He has exalted his word above His Name"

It is a stand out.

I also remember a School of Missions service he preahed "If the Gospel be hid". If that wont make you want to find a person to bring to christ, you cant be moved.

I remember when we elected him "Pastor Emeritus". We couldnt find him anywhere when the service started. Eventually they found him hiding in one of the back offices! He had to be talked into even coming into the service!
He just kept saying "You good people need to find someone worthy of this honor".

I never knew of a preacher so reluctant to get up before his peers yet so covetted. All my life I heard him refered to as "A pastors, Pastor".

It has been around 20 years since he passed away and you still hear "Papa George used to say" any time you are around DeRidder, or anywhere one of his "boys" is.

[mfblume]

Jeff Arnold
GR Travis
Wm. Bustard
Gene Edwards
Andrew Murray
Watchman Nee
Mark Hanby
TD Jakes

[SoCaliUPC]

I am no longer attendind a UPCI Church. I am still Oneness.

I respect:

My pastor Jeff Butler and his wife Tami.
Frank Tamel - Oak Creek, WI UPCI
Eddie Cupples - TN
John Ragsdale - Nashville
Joseph Garlington
Jeff Arnold - UPCI
Rex Johnson
John Cupit - New Orleans, LA UPCI

Many others some past who are now gone.....

Top of the list for his dedication and love for God my dad:

John A Eckstadt

Nate

He preached for us last night and tomorrow.

[Mrs. LPW]

An unknown to probably 98% of you on AFF... but the first Pastor my husband and I worked under. Bro. Gerald Perkins.

A kinder man I've never known personally. The only time I ever saw him riled was when he thought someone was hurting or leading one of his sheep astray.
He would go to the hospital to visit anyone in the community who was sick... whether they were a member of his church or not.
He was so longsuffering to his sheep that we often wondered if he were too soft!

He was not a great orator... he didn't have the deepest most profound sermons I had ever heard... but his messages were from the heart and from the Word.

He loved everyone.. whether he agreed with them or not and prayed for those he disagreed with.

He wasn't perfect by any means, but he was the best pastor you could have asked for. Because he loved us. He had a great sense of humor, I can still remember the way his shoulders would go up and down when he laughed.

He died of a heart attack at age 58... probably his love for Wendy's food had something to do with that.. but also he never stopped, from morning till night. And I know he basically worked himself to death for the Kingdom.

I don't know anyone who didn't like him... even when they didn't agree with him.
I miss him somedays... and look forward to seeing him again.

[SoCaliUPC]

Ministers (besides my Pastor) who have a special place in my life are (in no particular order):

Timothy Wachtstetter
Tom Copple
Jeff Arnold
Anthony Mangun
Ed Simmons
Murrell Ewing
Mark Hattabaugh
David Elms, Jr.
T.D. Jakes
My former pastor, David Gray
Robert Trapani

[StMark]

Jeff Arnold
GR Travis
Wm. Bustard
Gene Edwards
Andrew Murray
Watchman Nee
Mark Hanby
TD Jakes

Mark hanby???? Mark hanby???? MARK HANBY?????????????????

you've got to be kidding mike

[Sarah]

Mark hanby???? Mark hanby???? MARK HANBY?????????????????

you've got to be kidding mike

Actuallu, there was none better than MH in his day, Mark.

[AmazingGrace]

I have sat under and admired many wonderful men of God... I know I will miss many and so I hate to make a list... but here goes

John R Kershaw ;)
DG Hargrove ..If you have never heard this man preach you are missing something!
Lee Stoneking
Kevin Burgess
Nona Freeman
TF Tenney


There are many more and yep I know I am forgetting some but this is just to list a few..

[StMark]

Actuallu, there was none better than MH in his day, Mark.

you are right and he was idolized by all of Pentecost. I've wondered if that contributed to his down fall.

He was one the most anointed speakers I know of but I wouldn't consider him "Great" especially in light of what all has gone down in the most recent years.

[StillStanding]

Ministers (besides my Pastor) who have a special place in my life are (in no particular order):

Timothy Wachtstetter
Tom Copple
Jeff Arnold
Anthony Mangun
Ed Simmons
Murrell Ewing
Mark Hattabaugh
David Elms, Jr.
T.D. Jakes
My former pastor, David Gray
Robert Trapani

Tom Copple!! Now that's a blast from the past! I would love to see him again after all these years! :)

[Esther]

My favorite would be Tom Barnes...he was a man that knew God and heard from Him. YET he would take the time to talk to a nobody like me. :)

Harry Haygood...a very Christ like man of God. Had a shepherds heart. Went before his time.

Those still living.

James Kilgore...a very Christ like man. Strong in convictions gentle spirit.

TF Tenny...a man those knows the Word and has many one liners you just can't beat.

C. M. Becton...another gentle giant. Love to hear him play the piano as well.

Jason Scisoe...a man that understands spiritual things.

Merrill Ewing...a gentle giant of a man. Can preach and sing like no other.

Steve Willioughby...not ashamed to dance before the Lord. I love to watch him and Barbara worship.

Nona Freeman...a true woman of God. Real without pretentions.

Vesta Mangun...a firebrand, of prayer.

G. A. Mangun...oh to be able to sit and listen to him teach!

Anthony Mangun...the best of his Dad and Mom with his own flair.

Lee Stoneking...I love to hear him preach and he has a hunger for the supernatural things of God, as I do.

Billy Cole...another man that understands spiritual things.

J T Pugh...always preaches a mighty message. Easy to listen too.

Janice Sjostrand...has a deeper understanding of the Word than many give her credit for.

Thetus Tenny...a woman of prayer. I love to hear her testimonies of the miracles of God.

I am sure I have forgotten many I really love, but the memory isn't what it use to be.:)

[Sarah]

you are right and he was idolized by all of Pentecost. I've wondered if that contributed to his down fall.

He was one the most anointed speakers I know of but I wouldn't consider him "Great" especially in light of what all has gone down in the most recent years.

You're right. I think most of us would agree that he fell by the wayside.

So sad. Such a waste.

[Michael Phelps]

Bro. Robert Trapani.......he became a mentor to me a few years ago, and I love him with all of my heart. One of the most non-judgmental men I know, and one of the most down to earth.

He's suffered great loss in his life, and yet his ministry remains rich - possibly BECAUSE of his great loss.......but, of all the preachers who ever preached for us when I pastored, few made the impact on our congregation like this great man of God.

He's not afraid to be real, to confess his weaknesses to a man younger than him, and ask for prayer.......what an awesome man of God, in my opinion.

[Sherri]

Tom Copple!! Now that's a blast from the past! I would love to see him again after all these years! :)We saw Tom and Sarah at the Azusa St. gathering year before last. They have beautiful kids!!! They took us out to eat and we had such a great time with them. Tom looks exactly the same - not a single gray hair (and Tony is ALL gray). We hadn't seen Tom since JCM days.

[SoCaliUPC]

Tom Copple!! Now that's a blast from the past! I would love to see him again after all these years! :)

I'll be with him in a couple weeks. He and Sara are doing a GREAT work in Orange/Anaheim, Ca. It is my unofficial church home when I am in the OC/LA area. Love them!

[rgcraig]

I'll be with him in a couple weeks. He and Sara are doing a GREAT work in Orange/Anaheim, Ca. It is my unofficial church home when I am in the OC/LA area. Love them!

Tell him Renda from JCM said hi!

[Hesetmefree238]

Elder Jonathan Alvear
Elder James Groce
Elder Tommy Jackson
Elder Phil White
Elder Dallas Mefford
Elder Fred Shepard
and many, many more
The those who have gone on:
Elder R. C. Cavaness
Elder Carl Ballestero
Elder Joseph Meade
Elder M. E. Burr
Elder Verbal Bean
and many, many more.


Please tell me that R.C. Cavaness is not synonymous with Dude Caveness.

[Hesetmefree238]

Charles Mahaney
C.M. Becton
Jeff Arnold
Mike Williams
J.T. Plunk (my first pastor)
Danny Pitts
Tom Trimble

[Felicity]

Bro. Robert Trapani.......he became a mentor to me a few years ago, and I love him with all of my heart. One of the most non-judgmental men I know, and one of the most down to earth.

He's suffered great loss in his life, and yet his ministry remains rich - possibly BECAUSE of his great loss.......but, of all the preachers who ever preached for us when I pastored, few made the impact on our congregation like this great man of God.

He's not afraid to be real, to confess his weaknesses to a man younger than him, and ask for prayer.......what an awesome man of God, in my opinion.He's a great guy. We had the opportunity to spend some time fellowshipping around the table with Bro. Trapani after campmeeting one night early this summer. He's so easy to be around and become friends with.

He reminded me so much in some of his mannerisms of Bro. Urshan.

[Apprehended]

That was the Sr. Brother Guidroz. His son (V.A.) is my bishop and former pastor.

Does Arlen Guidroz of Dallas have the first name as his father's which is Viley?

They are family friends most of my life.

[Ferd]

Tom Copple!! Now that's a blast from the past! I would love to see him again after all these years! :)

This should make you feel nice and old. I remember just being almost beside myself to turn 12! Cuz then I could join TCs YOUTH GROUP! He was the youth pastor and really had things going high octain in DeRidder back in those days.
TC was way cool.

[Ferd]

Does Arlen Guidroz of Dallas have the first name as his father's which is Viley?

They are family friends most of my life.

Yes sir. Viley Arlen Guidroz. (better known as Buddy)

[Ferd]

Bro. Robert Trapani.......he became a mentor to me a few years ago, and I love him with all of my heart. One of the most non-judgmental men I know, and one of the most down to earth.

He's suffered great loss in his life, and yet his ministry remains rich - possibly BECAUSE of his great loss.......but, of all the preachers who ever preached for us when I pastored, few made the impact on our congregation like this great man of God.

He's not afraid to be real, to confess his weaknesses to a man younger than him, and ask for prayer.......what an awesome man of God, in my opinion.

Michael, you are so right. There are few men who can impact a congregation like he does. I love brother Trapani.

[Apprehended]

Yes sir. Viley Arlen Guidroz. (better known as Buddy)

Thank you.

"Buddy" stuck but I always called him "Arlen."

Did you know that our own "Big-Larry used to be the Song Leader there 25 or more years ago?

[Apprehended]

Michael, you are so right. There are few men who can impact a congregation like he does. I love brother Trapani.

Indeed. He has the ability to jerk a few tears.

[Brett Prince]

Besides my own pastor, executive pastor, and pastor growing up?

Tom Foster
Anthony Mangun
Merrill Ewing
Wayne Huntley
Scott Graham
Larry Booker
Paul Mooney
Greg Godwin
David Smith
Tim Greene
Jerry Jones
Carl McLaughlin
Mark Morgan
Kelsey E Griffin
A B Keating
Sam Emory
Terry Black
Doug White

Deceased:
O R Fauss
E L Holley

And a whole list more that just won't come to mind at the moment.

[Steve Epley]

Please tell me that R.C. Cavaness is not synonymous with Dude Caveness.

No R.C. was his father.

[Steadfast]

Tina, you should look around the internet, there are a number of his sermons availble. one has been mentioned here from a GC
"He has exalted his word above His Name"

It is a stand out.

I also remember a School of Missions service he preahed "If the Gospel be hid". If that wont make you want to find a person to bring to christ, you cant be moved.

I remember when we elected him "Pastor Emeritus". We couldnt find him anywhere when the service started. Eventually they found him hiding in one of the back offices! He had to be talked into even coming into the service!
He just kept saying "You good people need to find someone worthy of this honor".

I never knew of a preacher so reluctant to get up before his peers yet so covetted. All my life I heard him refered to as "A pastors, Pastor".

It has been around 20 years since he passed away and you still hear "Papa George used to say" any time you are around DeRidder, or anywhere one of his "boys" is.

Ferd, I've met many men and have sat around tables of fellowship with some Pentecostal icons. Of all the men that I've met, fellowshipped with and shared pulpits with that one name - George Glass Sr. - stands out as one of the names I'll regret not being able to spend time with.

He was seeminly respected by so many. And, though I never met him, who could forget "Would You Want Jesus For Your Pastor"? What a message. Probably not 10 men would preach a message like that today... all the while keeping a great spirit.

[Steadfast]

Jeff Arnold
GR Travis
Wm. Bustard
Gene Edwards
Andrew Murray
Watchman Nee
Mark Hanby
TD Jakes

G. R. Travis is among the great men that I admire. What a man.

[AmazingGrace]

I have sat under and admired many wonderful men of God... I know I will miss many and so I hate to make a list... but here goes

John R Kershaw ;)
DG Hargrove ..If you have never heard this man preach you are missing something!
Lee Stoneking
Kevin Burgess
Nona Freeman
TF Tenney


There are many more and yep I know I am forgetting some but this is just to list a few..

Another who I forgot to add and was just thinking about and missing is the pastor where we just moved from

Bro AB Keating.. he is an awesome pastor and funny to boot!

[Steadfast]

Actuallu, there was none better than MH in his day, Mark.

I agree that he was 'the man' as far as a preacher in his day. I mainly referred to men who I still have a great level of admiration and respect for... but he was, absolutely, a preaching machine in the day.

I've always wondered about his father, S. R., and if he was the quality of 'preacher' that Mark was.

[Steadfast]

Please tell me that R.C. Cavaness is not synonymous with Dude Caveness.

Hey, 'Dude' Caveness could be acid hard when preaching in the old days! But, having said that, I was just preaching in a venue that had him as one of the speakers and - honest before the Lord - the man is as incredible a preacher as you'll ever hear.

If you haven't heard him in the last several years you owe it to yourself to hear the man preach. Got to admit that (having known his reputation and 'braced' myself) the man left me in awe! What a preacher!

[Steadfast]

He's a great guy. We had the opportunity to spend some time fellowshipping around the table with Bro. Trapani after campmeeting one night early this summer. He's so easy to be around and become friends with.

He reminded me so much in some of his mannerisms of Bro. Urshan.

Great man and VERY much like Bro. Urshan in many ways.

[Steadfast]

Besides my own pastor, executive pastor, and pastor growing up?

Tom Foster
Anthony Mangun
Merrill Ewing
Wayne Huntley
Scott Graham
Larry Booker
Paul Mooney
Greg Godwin
David Smith
Tim Greene
Jerry Jones
Carl McLaughlin
Mark Morgan
Kelsey E Griffin
A B Keating
Sam Emory
Terry Black
Doug White

Deceased:
O R Fauss
E L Holley

And a whole list more that just won't come to mind at the moment.

E. L. Holley was my friend. He became a great friend to me when I first came to the city I Pastor in and, hands down, would have been my Pastor had anything happened to my own Bishop.

His wisdom was practical and amazing.
He was among the 'Apostolic Statesmen' who could represent us in any venue.
He was a leader in every sense of the Word... in good times and in bad times.

What a great man.

[stmatthew]

RW Schambach

















:D

[stmatthew]

Honestly, I used to love to hear Schambach, Terrell, and a few others on the radio when I was little.

[Steadfast]

Honestly, I used to love to hear Schambach, Terrell, and a few others on the radio when I was little.

The first time I heard Schamach I was convinced he was Oneness! He preached a GREAT Oneness message and then, in the final 30 seconds, he said "That's why I'm not ashamed of the blessed holy trinity!"
:shocked:

[Cindy]

RW Schambach

















:D


You're such a renegade Matt.:D:stirpot:toofunny

[Mrs. LPW]

I knew a fellow between here and the north pole who loved Schambach... he's an athiest now











:heeheehee:heeheehee

[Hoovie]

The first time I heard Schamach I was convinced he was Oneness! He preached a GREAT Oneness message and then, in the final 30 seconds, he said "That's why I'm not ashamed of the blessed holy trinity!"
:shocked:

...a very telling post...:bigweightlift:

[stmatthew]

I started to throw in the Walterboro SC guy (Stair), but then realized the only think my brother and I liked about his broadcast was we got to make fun of the lovely Yvonne singing "The King Is Coming"! :lol

[Neck]

He preached for us last night and tomorrow.

He was my dads best friend. He was my pastor for 27 years.

He is getting older but is a great man...

Neck

[Neck]

Mark hanby???? Mark hanby???? MARK HANBY?????????????????

you've got to be kidding mike


I also enjoy his sermons, but not how he chose to live them out..

[Felicity]

Great man and VERY much like Bro. Urshan in many ways.Bro. Urshan was his pastor so I guess that explains the similar mannerisms. Even the way he stands. :)

[Neck]

RW Schambach


:D

The hour of power is on the Air!

[Esther]

Besides my own pastor, executive pastor, and pastor growing up?

Tom Foster
Anthony Mangun
Merrill Ewing
Wayne Huntley
Scott Graham
Larry Booker
Paul Mooney
Greg Godwin
David Smith
Tim Greene
Jerry Jones
Carl McLaughlin
Mark Morgan
Kelsey E Griffin
A B Keating
Sam Emory
Terry Black
Doug White

Deceased:
O R Fauss
E L Holley

And a whole list more that just won't come to mind at the moment.

When did O R Fauss pass away? I was not aware of that. Strange since I live in the same city. Word must not travel fast close by. :)

[SoCaliUPC]

Tell him Renda from JCM said hi!

I will.

[SoCaliUPC]

Does Arlen Guidroz of Dallas have the first name as his father's which is Viley?

They are family friends most of my life.

One of their relatives is a respected poster here.

[SoCaliUPC]

This should make you feel nice and old. I remember just being almost beside myself to turn 12! Cuz then I could join TCs YOUTH GROUP! He was the youth pastor and really had things going high octain in DeRidder back in those days.
TC was way cool.

Still is.....and I hear is one of the names rumored to be the new District Superintendent of the Southern California District. Don't know if he would accept...but his name is being thrown out there.

[AmazingGrace]

When did O R Fauss pass away? I was not aware of that. Strange since I live in the same city. Word must not travel fast close by. :)

I do not think he did???? Did he??????? HMMMM

[Scott Hutchinson]

A Not so famous one,Pastor Richard Bowen of Muncie Indiana I have always enjoyed his preaching.

[ChurchMouse]

1st and above all else Jesus, next in line ... Rev. Joel N. Holmes
Rev. Johnny Godair
Rev. Kenny Godair
Rev. Larry Booker
Rev. Floyd Odom
Rev. Steve Pixler
Rev. Raul Alvear
Rev. Jonathan Alvear
Rev. Nathan Holmes
Rev. M.E. Burr
Rev. Philip White
Rev. Paul Price

[Whole Hearted]

1st and above all else Jesus, next in line ... Rev. Joel N. Holmes
Rev. Johnny Godair
Rev. Kenny Godair
Rev. Larry Booker
Rev. Floyd Odom
Rev. Steve Pixler
Rev. Raul Alvear
Rev. Jonathan Alvear
Rev. Nathan Holmes
Rev. M.E. Burr
Rev. Philip White
Rev. Paul Price

SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT LIST TO ME

[Steadfast]

When did O R Fauss pass away? I was not aware of that. Strange since I live in the same city. Word must not travel fast close by. :)

He may have been speaking of O. F. Fauss since O. R. Fauss is still alive. One of the greatest commitment preachers of our time... simply incredible.

[Margies3]

We saw Tom and Sarah at the Azusa St. gathering year before last. They have beautiful kids!!! They took us out to eat and we had such a great time with them. Tom looks exactly the same - not a single gray hair (and Tony is ALL gray). We hadn't seen Tom since JCM days.

Tony Copple who used to pastor in Pontiac?

[SoCaliUPC]

Tony Copple who used to pastor in Pontiac?

Watch out...I hear he lurks!

[Sacerdotal]

Jimmy Swaggart: He sings good.
Richard Heard: Accurate prophecy teacher.
Benny Hinn: the hair.

[Ferd]

Tell him Renda from JCM said hi!

Tell him Ferd said Hi too!

I will PM you.

[Ferd]

Watch out...I hear he lurks!

I remember Tony too! he used to come to DeRidder!

if you are lurking PM ME!

[Apprehended]

I agree that he was 'the man' as far as a preacher in his day. I mainly referred to men who I still have a great level of admiration and respect for... but he was, absolutely, a preaching machine in the day.

I've always wondered about his father, S. R., and if he was the quality of 'preacher' that Mark was.

S.R. Hanby was a prolific scriptorian but never the orator that Mark was and still is.

[Steve Epley]

I agree that he was 'the man' as far as a preacher in his day. I mainly referred to men who I still have a great level of admiration and respect for... but he was, absolutely, a preaching machine in the day.

I've always wondered about his father, S. R., and if he was the quality of 'preacher' that Mark was.

He was a tremendous teacher in the line upon line Bible Study manner. Not the type of preacher Mark was. But there was many like Mark was to be honest. A sad tale of Pentecost.

[Apprehended]

One of their relatives is a respected poster here.

You respect DORA?

HA!


j/k Dora...

Yeah I know 'em all. Her mother Wanda and all her siblings and their children. I even knew her Grandfather's people in Louisiana. I especially knew her Great uncle, V.A. Guidroz's brother who lived in New Orleans.

Knew 'em all.

[Nahum]

Jonathan Urshan Sr.
Bill Coltharp
Charles Grisham
Fendell Hall

[SoCaliUPC]

Tell him Ferd said Hi too!

I will PM you.

Do that!!! I am sure he will give me a funny look if I said Ferd. LOL!

[Sherri]

Watch out...I hear he lurks!That's ok. He knows his hair is gray!

(Actually he has beautiful gray hair!!!)

[Pastor G]

All 3 Glass brothers in the ministry were and are awesome men of God...

George Sr. Was but really still is since he lives in so many minds...
Arless and Charles are still going... Still as awesome as ever...

[Apprehended]

All 3 Glass brothers in the ministry were and are awesome men of God...

George Sr. Was but really still is since he lives in so many minds...
Arless and Charles are still going... Still as awesome as ever...

Is Charles still in Sherman? What group does he fellowship with?

[Pastor G]

Is Charles still in Sherman? What group does he fellowship with?

Yep... Not in any organization..

[StMark]

Yep... Not in any organization..


How well do you know the Glasses?

[Pastor G]

How well do you know the Glasses?

enough to admire them... have friends in LA and TX where they have been settled for quite some time

my grandmother used to go to first church in Deridder where they all grew up with TFT... In fact I believe it was Arless that was praying with TFT when he got the Holy Ghost

[Coonskinner]

Great thread.

[revrandy]

Some I have admired may not as well known as others...but I remember some of them from my childhood as good men....

The White Brothers...HL & ML....
Bro. Leo Upton...
Bro. Johnson (an elderly man in our church who when testifying would always weep and say everytime "He is "gooder" than I ever thought"....
Bro. TR McDonald.....
A couple of my uncles...who are & were pastoring..
Bro. Romaine...
Bro. George Tharp...

[Apprehended]

I enjoyed fellowship with and greatly admired George L. Glass, Sr. In my younger years I enjoyed baseball. It is a little known fact that he did too. In fact, he was a great fan of baseball. We used to talk about our sport. He was very knowledgeable. Above all, he was not only a great Christian but he also was the MASTER preacher.

He once said, "When I take the pulpit, sometimes I will search out a very young child...maybe 4 or 5 years old. I will then temper the level of my language with vocabulary and tempo as to be completely understood by that little child." It worked. He was able to drive home his points so forcefully; seldom do you forget what he preached.

Brother Glass was PCI before the merger.

[rosebud]

Here are a few of the "Great Men" I admire.

Mike Almendarez- My grandfather who raised me.

FV Shoemake - One of the most kind and loving pastor's I've ever known.

Jimmy Shoemake - Son of FV Shoemake,kind like his Dad, need I say more :thumbsup

Alan Oggs - Love'd to hear him preach!

Charles Mahaney - Awesome testimony

Jeff Arnold - Tell's it like it is!

Bro. TF Tenney - Love this man of God !!

Bro. Stoneking - I love to hear him worship! makes me smile

[Ferd]

I enjoyed fellowship with and greatly admired George L. Glass, Sr. In my younger years I enjoyed baseball. It is a little known fact that he did too. In fact, he was a great fan of baseball. We used to talk about our sport. He was very knowledgeable. Above all, he was not only a great Christian but he also was the MASTER preacher.

He once said, "When I take the pulpit, sometimes I will search out a very young child...maybe 4 or 5 years old. I will then temper the level of my language with vocabulary and tempo as to be completely understood by that little child." It worked. He was able to drive home his points so forcefully; seldom do you forget what he preached.

Brother Glass was PCI before the merger.

Apprehended, were you active on NFCF? we had a thread about Papa George. Timlan started it with the theory that GLGSR was PCI in doctrine.

I took the other view, however at the end of the day, we came to the conclusion that no one really knows for sure!

Yes, GLG was PCI in organization, as was AT Morgan. Both are from First Church in DeRidder (my home church) and it was PCI in affiliation.

both Timlan and I spoke to GLGJR about Papa George on the subject. GLGJR told me he really didnt know where he stood. I know one of the last sermons he preached was in DeRidder and it was on the subject of the Holy Ghost and his point was that you needed it. My parents were there and remember it well.

I also know from GLGJR that when all the Glass preachers were together (there were at one point 6 or 7), Papa George would state, that he wished they could go to some part of the country that had never heard of Pentecost and "Do it right"

I think that is very telling. I am not saying he thought things were terribly wrong with the Apostolic movement, but he was certainly aquinted with most of the situations (if not all) where things had gone sour.

He spent months in Indy with brother Urshan during the "Later Rain" problems that took place there. Papa George preached for him when Bro. Urshan could not even take his own pulpit for weeks and weeks.

[Ferd]

In no particular order

Robert Trapani
A man of wisdom and kindness that has been a long time friend of my mom and dad. He has spoken so much truth into my life. A true Prince among us.
George Glass Sr.
If you don’t know who this is, well, you need to find out. One of the greatest men of God ever. Period. His GC sermon “He has exalted his Word above His Name” should be a must listen to every preacher in Pentecost.
TF Tenney
Graduated from High School with my dad. I remember going to Youth Camp as a young kid and hiding from him until I “Got right with God”…. The man can simply look into your soul.
V. A. Guidroz
If ever there was a man who understood what it means to “do the right thing” it is V.A. Guidroz. He is my bishop and confidant and a man of great wisdom. Doing “it” right, has been his greatest lesson. (and if you think Thad can play a Hammond, you need to hear Sister Guidroz play!)
Tom Coppell
My youth pastor when I was a kid. TC meant more to me than he will ever know. Just a great guy.


need to add a couple.

Lloyd Shirley
Years ago while working as an AIMer, Brother Shirley showed me great kindness. He is an awesome guy!

Glen Chance
As wise a man as you will ever find. I love brother Chance!

[Joelel]

Why would anyone want to admire a man ? Admire God he makes every man what they are.

[Ferd]

Why would anyone want to admire a man ? Admire God he makes every man what they are.

dont worry nobody admires you.

[revrandy]

Why would anyone want to admire a man ? Admire God he makes every man what they are.

1 Timothy 5:17 (New King James Version)
Honor the Elders

17 Let the elders who rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in the word and doctrine.

[Ferd]

1 Timothy 5:17 (New King James Version)
Honor the Elders

17 Let the elders who rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in the word and doctrine.

I prefer to point out that oneone here admires joelel

[Joelel]

dont worry nobody admires you.

Right,I know not many admire truth,besides God is truth,admire him.Thank You.

[Mrs. LPW]

dont worry nobody admires you.

Mary Poppins went to see Uncle Albert... who at the time was floating around on the ceiling because of his infectious laughter... and when the Children began to laugh along with Uncle Albert, Mary Poppins told them, what I'm going to tell you.

"...you'll only make him worse... it's really quite serious you know..."

:)

[AmazingGrace]

dont worry nobody admires you.

:slaphappy:slaphappy:slaphappy

[Ferd]

Mary Poppins went to see Uncle Albert... who at the time was floating around on the ceiling because of his infectious laughter... and when the Children began to laugh along with Uncle Albert, Mary Poppins told them, what I'm going to tell you.

"...you'll only make him worse... it's really quite serious you know..."

:)

you are right. this is the wrong thread for that.

[Joelel]

1 Timothy 5:17 (New King James Version)
Honor the Elders

17 Let the elders who rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in the word and doctrine.

I see admire to have different meaning then honor.

(Greek/English Interlinear (tr) NT) 1 Timothy 5:17 | oi <3588> {THE} kalwV <2573> {WELL} proestwteV <4291> (5761) {WHO TAKE THE LEAD} presbuteroi <4245> {ELDERS} diplhV <1362> {OF DOUBLE} timhV <5092> {HONOUR} axiousqwsan <515> (5744) {LET BE COUNTED WORTHY,} malista <3122> {SPECIALLY} oi <3588> {THOSE} kopiwnteV <2872> (5723) {LABOURING} en <1722> {IN} logw <3056> {WORD} kai <2532> {AND} didaskalia <1319> {TEACHING;}

17 Let the3588 elders4245 that rule4291 well2573 be counted worthy515 of double1362 honor,5092 especially3122 they who labor2872 in1722 the word3056 and2532 doctrine.1319

G5092
τιμή
timē
tee-may‘
From 5099 a value, that is, money paid, or (concretely and collectively) valuables; by analogy esteem (especially of the highest degree), or the dignity itself: - honour, precious, price, some.

Main Entry: ad·mire
Pronunciation: \əd-ˈmī(-ə)r\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): ad·mired; ad·mir·ing
Etymology: Middle French admirer, to marvel at, from Latin admirari, from ad- + mirari to wonder, from mirus astonishing
Date: 1560
transitive verb
1: to regard with admiration
2archaic : to marvel at
intransitive verb
dialect : to like very much <I would admire to know why not — A. H. Lewis>
synonyms see regard
— ad·mir·er noun
— ad·mir·ing·ly \-ˈmī-riŋ-lē\ adverb

Main Entry: 1hon·or
Pronunciation: \ˈä-nər\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French onur, honur, from Latin honos, honor
Date: 13th century
1 a: good name or public esteem : reputation b: a showing of usually merited respect : recognition <pay honor to our founder>
2: privilege <had the honor of joining the captain for dinner>
3: a person of superior standing —now used especially as a title for a holder of high office <if Your Honor please>
4: one whose worth brings respect or fame : credit <an honor to the profession>
5: the center point of the upper half of an armorial escutcheon
6: an evidence or symbol of distinction: as a: an exalted title or rank b (1): badge decoration (2): a ceremonial rite or observance <buried with full military honors> c: an award in a contest or field of competition darchaic : a gesture of deference : bow eplural (1): an academic distinction conferred on a superior student (2): a course of study for superior students supplementing or replacing a regular course
7: chastity purity <fought fiercely for her honor and her life — Barton Black>
8 a: a keen sense of ethical conduct : integrity <wouldn't do it as a matter of honor> b: one's word given as a guarantee of performance <on my honor, I will be there>
9plural : social courtesies or civilities extended by a host <asked her to do the honors>
10 a (1): an ace, king, queen, jack, or ten especially of the trump suit in bridge (2): the scoring value of honors held in bridge —usually used in plural b: the privilege of playing first from the tee in golf
synonyms honor homage reverence deference mean respect and esteem shown to another. honor may apply to the recognition of one's right to great respect or to any expression of such recognition <the nomination is an honor>. homage adds the implication of accompanying praise <paying homage to Shakespeare>. reverence implies profound respect mingled with love, devotion, or awe <great reverence for my father>. deference implies a yielding or submitting to another's judgment or preference out of respect or reverence <showed no deference to their elders>.

[Cindy]

Bishop Leo Upton

[AmazingGrace]

Just a reminder for some who are getting really fed up...

There is an ignore feature on this forum you may want to check into.... all you have to do is click on the persons name... go to their profile.. click user lists and then ignore... it works beautifully!

[Steadfast]

Why would anyone want to admire a man ? Admire God he makes every man what they are.

:covereyes












(I guess it had to happen. Sad. And it was such a good thread...))

[Ferd]

:covereyes





(I guess it had to happen. Sad. And it was such a good thread...))

you do have the power of EDIT. you could just edit out the posts....

[AmazingGrace]

If you put him on ignore you dont have to read it and it puts it all back into perspective!

[Ferd]

If you put him on ignore you dont have to read it and it puts it all back into perspective!

Can we get Boom or Prax to write a script to do that for everyone?

[AmazingGrace]

Can we get Boom or Prax to write a script to do that for everyone?

I wish!

[Joelel]

Just a reminder for some who are getting really fed up...

There is an ignore feature on this forum you may want to check into.... all you have to do is click on the persons name... go to their profile.. click user lists and then ignore... it works beautifully!

Yes,you get fed up with truth ignor it.

[AmazingGrace]

Yes,you get fed up with truth ignor it.

No,,, Joelel I have a love for truth that goes deeper than you will ever realize... what you have is hate and I refuse to be around such nonsense as this mess you post.. good day!

[mfblume]

Mark hanby???? Mark hanby???? MARK HANBY?????????????????

you've got to be kidding mike

Like another said, his life and personal quirks are not my issue. His WORD ministry was absolutely phenomenal. He had genuine revelation from God. But I am not saying anything about my agreement with his like outside that. The guy flat-out hears from God about what to preach, though.

[Steadfast]

Yes,you get fed up with truth ignor it.

Joelel, I have a prediction for you: you're sweet little disposition isn't going to be around AFF very long. The sad part is that you seem to have a good mind.

Lighten up, man, and dialogue with people instead of trying to swipe the throne out from under the Savior.

(Okay, this is where you just do the whole "You don't love truth / I'm more spiritual than the Apostles / I'm being attacked because I'm a spiritual hero without recognition" stuff.)

[Cindy]

I see admire to have different meaning then honor.

(Greek/English Interlinear (tr) NT) 1 Timothy 5:17 | oi <3588> {THE} kalwV <2573> {WELL} proestwteV <4291> (5761) {WHO TAKE THE LEAD} presbuteroi <4245> {ELDERS} diplhV <1362> {OF DOUBLE} timhV <5092> {HONOUR} axiousqwsan <515> (5744) {LET BE COUNTED WORTHY,} malista <3122> {SPECIALLY} oi <3588> {THOSE} kopiwnteV <2872> (5723) {LABOURING} en <1722> {IN} logw <3056> {WORD} kai <2532> {AND} didaskalia <1319> {TEACHING;}

17 Let the3588 elders4245 that rule4291 well2573 be counted worthy515 of double1362 honor,5092 especially3122 they who labor2872 in1722 the word3056 and2532 doctrine.1319

G5092
τιμή
timē
tee-may‘
From 5099 a value, that is, money paid, or (concretely and collectively) valuables; by analogy esteem (especially of the highest degree), or the dignity itself: - honour, precious, price, some.

Main Entry: ad·mire
Pronunciation: \əd-ˈmī(-ə)r\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): ad·mired; ad·mir·ing
Etymology: Middle French admirer, to marvel at, from Latin admirari, from ad- + mirari to wonder, from mirus astonishing
Date: 1560
transitive verb
1: to regard with admiration
2archaic : to marvel at
intransitive verb
dialect : to like very much <I would admire to know why not — A. H. Lewis>
synonyms see regard
— ad·mir·er noun
— ad·mir·ing·ly \-ˈmī-riŋ-lē\ adverb

Main Entry: 1hon·or
Pronunciation: \ˈä-nər\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French onur, honur, from Latin honos, honor
Date: 13th century
1 a: good name or public esteem : reputation b: a showing of usually merited respect : recognition <pay honor to our founder>
2: privilege <had the honor of joining the captain for dinner>
3: a person of superior standing —now used especially as a title for a holder of high office <if Your Honor please>
4: one whose worth brings respect or fame : credit <an honor to the profession>
5: the center point of the upper half of an armorial escutcheon
6: an evidence or symbol of distinction: as a: an exalted title or rank b (1): badge decoration (2): a ceremonial rite or observance <buried with full military honors> c: an award in a contest or field of competition darchaic : a gesture of deference : bow eplural (1): an academic distinction conferred on a superior student (2): a course of study for superior students supplementing or replacing a regular course
7: chastity purity <fought fiercely for her honor and her life — Barton Black>
8 a: a keen sense of ethical conduct : integrity <wouldn't do it as a matter of honor> b: one's word given as a guarantee of performance <on my honor, I will be there>
9plural : social courtesies or civilities extended by a host <asked her to do the honors>
10 a (1): an ace, king, queen, jack, or ten especially of the trump suit in bridge (2): the scoring value of honors held in bridge —usually used in plural b: the privilege of playing first from the tee in golf
synonyms honor homage reverence deference mean respect and esteem shown to another. honor may apply to the recognition of one's right to great respect or to any expression of such recognition <the nomination is an honor>. homage adds the implication of accompanying praise <paying homage to Shakespeare>. reverence implies profound respect mingled with love, devotion, or awe <great reverence for my father>. deference implies a yielding or submitting to another's judgment or preference out of respect or reverence <showed no deference to their elders>.


Bro. Joelel, It is very hard to read your script.

[Ferd]

Joelel, I have a prediction for you: you're sweet little disposition isn't going to be around AFF very long. The sad part is that you seem to have a good mind.

Lighten up, man, and dialogue with people instead of trying to swipe the throne out from under the Savior.

(Okay, this is where you just do the whole "You don't love truth / I'm more spiritual than the Apostles / I'm being attacked because I'm a spiritual hero without recognition" stuff.)

let me just say it one more time.... you do have the ability to simply make it go away.... hee hee....

[Cindy]

:covereyes












(I guess it had to happen. Sad. And it was such a good thread...))

Not to promote violence but a smack upside the head once in a while is good for some people.:D

[mfblume]

I must say that despite likely opinions to the contrary, God used William Branham mightily as well. I totally despise his serpent seed doctrine and his elevation of self to the level of the seventh angel of Revelation, but he was genuinely used in the gifts of the Spirit. He should have remained that way and not attempted to teach. He was not a teacher. God did use the dude.

[revrandy]

Back on Track....

EC Knott.... from North OKC... Many a time I would come over to the Church in the middle of the afternoon to Find Bro. Knott layed on his face on the floor in the aisle of the sanctuary weeping and calling on God...

[revrandy]

Bro. Billy Pendergrass.... Always a good man...

Bro. David Hudspeth....

Bro. Leonard Samson....

Bro. Grisom (Henryetta)

Bro. EG Bass...


many good men....

[Joelel]

No,,, Joelel I have a love for truth that goes deeper than you will ever realize... what you have is hate and I refuse to be around such nonsense as this mess you post.. good day!

Oh,so speaking truth is hate ? I make a statement of truth and you call it a mess ?

[AmazingGrace]

Bro. Billy Pendergrass.... Always a good man...

Bro. David Hudspeth....

Bro. Leonard Samson....

Bro. Grisom (Henryetta)

Bro. EG Bass...


many good men....

Did you ever go to bass church

[revrandy]

Did you ever go to bass church

Years ago when I was a young child.... my parents live next door to them...

[revrandy]

Oh,so speaking truth is hate ? I make a statement of truth and you call it a mess ?

Jo.... your tenacity is not your most enduring quality...give it a break find another thread...and locate some happiness in your life....

[Coonskinner]

I loved and admired C.A. Nelson very much.

I also greatly admire Gary L. Howard.

[AmazingGrace]

Years ago when I was a young child.... my parents live next door to them...

ahhhh .... sorry LOL...

Nah he is ok

I was born into that church...

[Ferd]

Not to promote violence but a smack upside the head once in a while is good for some people.:D

once again, my moderate ways have provided the path.

As a kid who went to high school basketball games, we had this chant

Boom Boom
Up Side the Head

say

Boom-boom
'side de head!

[Cindy]

once again, my moderate ways have provided the path.

As a kid who went to high school basketball games, we had this chant

Boom Boom
Up Side the Head

say

Boom-boom
'side de head!

Yep!

[Joelel]

Bro. Joelel, It is very hard to read your script.

Hi,Is it Sister.If you have a question ,please ask.You can send E=mail if you like.I know It's kinda hard to read the interlinear.

[Ferd]

While my association with Brother Groce has only been on the internet, i have to say, his writtings have been a great inspiration to me. i have come to really appreciate Brother Groce. Plus he pastored in Beauregard Parish years ago and knew my grandmother.

That gets him lots of points.

[Joelel]

Jo.... your tenacity is not your most enduring quality...give it a break find another thread...and locate some happiness in your life....

I can't believe you people act like this,Steadfast starts a thread and I made a statement and even showed where admire didn't mean to honor and all you people jump on me.Why don't you people get some love and a life,REV

[AmazingGrace]

I can't believe you people act like this,Steadfast starts a thread and I made a statement and even showed where admire didn't mean to honor and all you people jump on me.Why don't you people get some love and a life,REV

I think you need to take some of those chill pills... the backside of the door is getting closer and closer Jo........

[Ferd]

I can't believe you people act like this,Steadfast starts a thread and I made a statement and even showed where admire didn't mean to honor and all you people jump on me.Why don't you people get some love and a life,REV

Maybe it was

Whoop Whoop
up 'side da head

say

Whoop-whoop
'side da head!

I think that was it.

[Coonskinner]

There are certain afflictions no pill will cure.

[Ferd]

There are certain afflictions no pill will cure.


i am glad I am not drinking coffee right now.

it would be all over my monitor.

[Joelel]

Ok,If I have to be the one to stop playing with you children I will,I know who not to talk to any more,thank you

[Ferd]

Ok,If I have to be the one to stop playing with you children I will,I know who not to talk to any more,thank you

do you need help packing your toys?

[AmazingGrace]

do you need help packing your toys?

I enjoy packing.. have become a pro at it!!

[Michael Phelps]

Mary Poppins went to see Uncle Albert... who at the time was floating around on the ceiling because of his infectious laughter... and when the Children began to laugh along with Uncle Albert, Mary Poppins told them, what I'm going to tell you.

"...you'll only make him worse... it's really quite serious you know..."

:)

Lol, EXCELLENT reference!

[mfblume]

Ok,If I have to be the one to stop playing with you children I will,I know who not to talk to any more,thank you

..this coming from a guy who said there were gentiles saved in Acts 2?

1 Corinthians 14:20 KJV (20) Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men.

[AmazingGrace]

..this coming from a guy who said there were gentiles saved in Acts 2?

1 Corinthians 14:20 KJV (20) Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men.

Wow someone who actually paid attention to something he said... he lost me way back yonder!

[Hesetmefree238]

Hey, 'Dude' Caveness could be acid hard when preaching in the old days! But, having said that, I was just preaching in a venue that had him as one of the speakers and - honest before the Lord - the man is as incredible a preacher as you'll ever hear.

If you haven't heard him in the last several years you owe it to yourself to hear the man preach. Got to admit that (having known his reputation and 'braced' myself) the man left me in awe! What a preacher!

Back in the 70's and early 80's there used to be a lot of fellowship between
the UPC and Independent Churches in our area. My pastor was at a campmeeting that was held by an Independent group in our area during this
time (I believe early 80's). Dude Caveness was the preacher. He preached
a message titled "There Arose A Generation That Knew Not God". It was my
understanding that the UPC was identified in this sermon as That Generation.
That one service caused a rift between the UPC and Independents in our
area that was never repaired to this day. Many that used to fellowship were
now divided as a result of that service. Unfortunately, many Independent
brethren (not all of them) jumped on board with Brother Caveness during his
message and that caused a lot of hurt amongst those UPC brethren who were
at the meeting.
I personally do not know the man and have never heard him preach, but this
is what he is famous for in our area.

[dizzyde]

Tom Copple!! Now that's a blast from the past! I would love to see him again after all these years! :)

We saw Tom and Sarah at the Azusa St. gathering year before last. They have beautiful kids!!! They took us out to eat and we had such a great time with them. Tom looks exactly the same - not a single gray hair (and Tony is ALL gray). We hadn't seen Tom since JCM days.

Tell him Renda from JCM said hi!


Here is a link to Sara's Myspace music page as well.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=192804298

[mfblume]

Wow someone who actually paid attention to something he said... he lost me way back yonder!

I tried explaining what proeslytes were, in Chapter 2, and he insisted otherwise.

[Apprehended]

Apprehended, were you active on NFCF? we had a thread about Papa George. Timlan started it with the theory that GLGSR was PCI in doctrine.

I took the other view, however at the end of the day, we came to the conclusion that no one really knows for sure!

Yes, GLG was PCI in organization, as was AT Morgan. Both are from First Church in DeRidder (my home church) and it was PCI in affiliation.

both Timlan and I spoke to GLGJR about Papa George on the subject. GLGJR told me he really didnt know where he stood. I know one of the last sermons he preached was in DeRidder and it was on the subject of the Holy Ghost and his point was that you needed it. My parents were there and remember it well.

I also know from GLGJR that when all the Glass preachers were together (there were at one point 6 or 7), Papa George would state, that he wished they could go to some part of the country that had never heard of Pentecost and "Do it right"

I think that is very telling. I am not saying he thought things were terribly wrong with the Apostolic movement, but he was certainly aquinted with most of the situations (if not all) where things had gone sour.

He spent months in Indy with brother Urshan during the "Later Rain" problems that took place there. Papa George preached for him when Bro. Urshan could not even take his own pulpit for weeks and weeks.

Yes, you have it right.

After the merger, you would never hear br. Glass state a PCI position or would he state an exclusive PAJC case. He knew how to keep peace in the spirit of the merger. He was a class act in all things.

I know both Jr. and Jimmy too but I have never spoken to them about any of this. I think that their mother is still alive...I could be mistaken.

I also remember when he told about the days that Raymond G. Hoekstra resigned the church to promote Little David, leaving the church to his assistant N.A. Urshan. During that time the Latter Rain broke out, invading many Oneness churches, sweeping many of them away. Not long afterwards, Ray Hoekstra returned and wanted his church back. The problem was, he had gone nuts with the L.R. movement, even became shaky on the doctrine. Bro. Urshan called men like Br. Glass and br. Guidroz who helped him steady the ship.

In the end, since Hoekstra, who later became Chaplan Ray could not take the church back, he tried to split it. Bro. Urshan only lost one family.

Bro Glass was a strong steadying force in those days. I remember the story of how he was nominated to run as the first DS of La. Bro. S.L. Wise was also nominated. The vote tied on the first ballot. The vote tied on the second ballot. The vote time on the third ballot. Finally, bro. Glass deferred to br. Wise...a story which would touch your heart, he won the deep affections of the whole district from then on.

If there be a young minister that would like to "learn how to preach," I would certainly recommend that they get every tape of Br. Glass' preaching. The message that he preached at the 1957 Gen Conference in Little Rock which I attened was an all time classic, "The Lord Hath Need of it." I will never forget it.

The last message that I heard him preach shortly before his death was, "God Gives Every Man an Equal Chance." It was probably the finest message that the 80 something year old man ever preached with a voice as clear and strong as it ever was...even when he was a young, strong black headed man.

He baptized me. So, I have a natural affection for him in that regard.

[Ferd]

Yes, you have it right.

After the merger, you would never hear br. Glass state a PCI position or would he state an exclusive PAJC case. He knew how to keep peace in the spirit of the merger. He was a class act in all things.

I know both Jr. and Jimmy too but I have never spoken to them about any of this. I think that their mother is still alive...I could be mistaken.

I also remember when he told about the days that Raymond G. Hoekstra resigned the church to promote Little David, leaving the church to his assistant N.A. Urshan. During that time the Latter Rain broke out, invading many Oneness churches, sweeping many of them away. Not long afterwards, Ray Hoekstra returned and wanted his church back. The problem was, he had gone nuts with the L.R. movement, even became shaky on the doctrine. Bro. Urshan called men like Br. Glass and br. Guidroz who helped him steady the ship.

In the end, since Hoekstra, who later became Chaplan Ray could not take the church back, he tried to split it. Bro. Urshan only lost one family.

Bro Glass was a strong steadying force in those days. I remember the story of how he was nominated to run as the first DS of La. Bro. S.L. Wise was also nominated. The vote tied on the first ballot. The vote tied on the second ballot. The vote time on the third ballot. Finally, bro. Glass deferred to br. Wise...a story which would touch your heart, he won the deep affections of the whole district from then on.

If there be a young minister that would like to "learn how to preach," I would certainly recommend that they get every tape of Br. Glass' preaching. The message that he preached at the 1957 Gen Conference in Little Rock which I attened was an all time classic, "The Lord Hath Need of it." I will never forget it.

The last message that I heard him preach shortly before his death was, "God Gives Every Man an Equal Chance." It was probably the finest message that the 80 something year old man ever preached with a voice as clear and strong as it ever was...even when he was a young, strong black headed man.

He baptized me. So, I have a natural affection for him in that regard.
I will make you a deal. you keep telling stories, and I will keep reading!

btw, I have it on good autority that GLGSR actually played minor league baseball and might have made the bigs but gave it up to preach!

[Hesetmefree238]

I never got to hear Bro. Glass in person, but I heard a tape of him preaching a message
titled, God's Beautiful Plan of Salvation. It was an awesome message.

[Steve Epley]

Back in the 70's and early 80's there used to be a lot of fellowship between
the UPC and Independent Churches in our area. My pastor was at a campmeeting that was held by an Independent group in our area during this
time (I believe early 80's). Dude Caveness was the preacher. He preached
a message titled "There Arose A Generation That Knew Not God". It was my
understanding that the UPC was identified in this sermon as That Generation.
That one service caused a rift between the UPC and Independents in our
area that was never repaired to this day. Many that used to fellowship were
now divided as a result of that service. Unfortunately, many Independent
brethren (not all of them) jumped on board with Brother Caveness during his
message and that caused a lot of hurt amongst those UPC brethren who were
at the meeting.
I personally do not know the man and have never heard him preach, but this
is what he is famous for in our area.

Not trying to get into a fight but I heard the problem was a result of a UPC being unethical in solicticing members from other churches?

[Apprehended]

I will make you a deal. you keep telling stories, and I will keep reading!

btw, I have it on good autority that GLGSR actually played minor league baseball and might have made the bigs but gave it up to preach!

He was a great fan of baseball, as I had earlier mentioned. I never heard him say that he actually played...he may have. I am aware that he had taken up boxing before he got saved. He was a very good fighter.

Right after he got saved, three men met him behind the brush arbor meeting after he had finished some of his earliest preaching. Those men announced to Geo that they were going to give him an old fashioned whoopin' which he had comming to him.

George consented to the whoopin' but asked if he could pray first. The men looked at each other in surprise but granted him the time to pray before they dished out what they thought he deserved. George knelt to pray as they watched.

He prayed, "God, you know that I could whip all three of these men at one time. But, you know that I am a man that can take all and more that they can dish out. It is my intentions to take the whipping in the Spirit of Christ that taught us to turn the other cheek. I will attempt to keep my flesh under control while I'm taking the whipping, but if for some reason I don't keep it under control, I am about to give these three fellows a beating that they will not soon forget. Amen."

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[Blubayou]

Back on Track....

EC Knott.... from North OKC... Many a time I would come over to the Church in the middle of the afternoon to Find Bro. Knott layed on his face on the floor in the aisle of the sanctuary weeping and calling on God...

Br. Randy - My husband was pastored by Br. Knott in OKC. He spoke very highly of him. He said he was a gentle man with a real love for people. He also admired Br. Bass, too.

[Blubayou]

He was in Br. Bass's church in Tulsa.

[StillStanding]

You can tell a lot about a person by who they admire! :D

[Ferd]

He was a great fan of baseball, as I had earlier mentioned. I never heard him say that he actually played...he may have. I am aware that he had taken up boxing before he got saved. He was a very good fighter.

Right after he got saved, three men met him behind the brush arbor meeting after he had finished some of his earliest preaching. Those men announced to Geo that they were going to give him an old fashioned whoopin' which he had comming to him.

George consented to the whoopin' but asked if he could pray first. The men looked at each other in surprise but granted him the time to pray before they dished out what they thought he deserved. George knelt to pray as they watched.

He prayed, "God, you know that I could whip all three of these men at one time. But, you know that I am a man that can take all and more that they can dish out. It is my intentions to take the whipping in the Spirit of Christ that taught us to turn the other cheek. I will attempt to keep my flesh under control while I'm taking the whipping, but if for some reason I don't keep it under control, I am about to give these three fellows a beating that they will not soon forget. Amen."

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George stood up, opened his eyes and looked around. The men were nowhere to be found. They had run for their lives. George's reputation as a fighter before he was saved was well known.

True Story.


LOL! well I know full well that the country he was from produced some serious fighters. it was kind of the local past time. You couldnt be a young man in DeRidder and survive if you couldnt hold up your end of the bargin....


that is a great story.

[Steve Epley]

You can tell a lot about a person by who they admire! :D

That is so.

[gthaywood1880]

The late Bishop G.T. Haywood and all the brethern in the Oneness Apostolic past and present and happy 95th Birthday to the late Bishop Morris Ellis Golder.

[JosephConroy]

The list of Apostolic Brethren I admire is almost impossible to go down!

But one of the women ministers that I was privileged to know, and wonder if any of you knew was very colourful to say the least!

Did any of you know Sister Teelie Dover Greer??? Wasn't she in a class all her own?

I remember the first time I met her at a conference, she was up with the rest of us missionaries, and we each were invited up tot he pulpit one by one to introduce ourselves to the conference. When I saw this elderly woman step up to the pulpit I was expecting this weak whispering voice to come out of her. BOY WAS I WRONG!!!!


But not only was she MORE than audible, the woman could not string four words together without taking of shouting ...."WELL GLORY!!!!!' and doing a little jig! By the time she was into her third minute of five I was besides myself and I completely lost it! you know the SHRIEKING laughter type spirit! it was terrible! But we became friends from that afternoon on.

She was out of Elder Williams there in Tulsa and knew EVERYBODY in Pentecost! Even Harry Morse! Incredible woman.
Joseph Conroy

[GodsBabyGirl]

Elder Strange

Lee Stoneking

Bro Michael Day

Pastor Mike McCormack

[OP_Carl]

GREAT MEN: Who Do You Admire?

Doug White

Robert Rodenbush

Ron Brown

Paul Mooney

Johnny James

Jonathan Sanders

[Sister Alvear]

The list of Apostolic Brethren I admire is almost impossible to go down!

But one of the women ministers that I was privileged to know, and wonder if any of you knew was very colourful to say the least!

Did any of you know Sister Teelie Dover Greer??? Wasn't she in a class all her own?

I remember the first time I met her at a conference, she was up with the rest of us missionaries, and we each were invited up tot he pulpit one by one to introduce ourselves to the conference. When I saw this elderly woman step up to the pulpit I was expecting this weak whispering voice to come out of her. BOY WAS I WRONG!!!!



But not only was she MORE than audible, the woman could not string four words together without taking of shouting ...."WELL GLORY!!!!!' and doing a little jig! By the time she was into her third minute of five I was besides myself and I completely lost it! you know the SHRIEKING laughter type spirit! it was terrible! But we became friends from that afternoon on.

She was out of Elder Williams there in Tulsa and knew EVERYBODY in Pentecost! Even Harry Morse! Incredible woman.



Joseph Conroy








Yes, I remember her.. She was quite a woman... In fact have never met anyone quite like her. She could tell a lot of missionary stories...

[Mosby48]

I too can think of many.
Clyde Haney
David Gray
Paul Price
Kenneth Haney
T.F. Tenney
Vaughn Morton

But the one preacher that really got in to my very spirit was J.T. Pugh. I've listened to him [in person and on tape] more than any other preacher. From my highschool graduation in 1963 until this present day. Not only were his messages deeply spiritual but his delivery is that of a poet. Non-pareil!

Raven
I agree. Bro Pugh makes you really pay attention and think. Sometimes he uses several scriptures and you are thinking "How will he ever tie all of these together" and then, boom!! He does it. I have a tape of his sermon "Wandering Stars of the night" from Jude. I've listened to it many many times. It still moves me. Bro T F Tenney is the same way. I have many of his tapes, all great.

[a_vespers]

Pastor Albert Abbey was a gentle and loving man.

[RandyWayne]

You can tell a lot about a person by who they admire! :D

So what does that say about me if the three men I admire most are Fred Rogers, Captain Kangaroo (Robert James Keeshan), and Barney Fife?

(bet you thought I was going to quote a line from Don McClean's American Pie. :) )

[Tim Rutledge]

Preachers that have gone on to their reward..
Elder W. Verbal Bean
Bishop Leonard E. Westberg
Bishop I. H. Terry

A few of the preachers that have helped me over the yrs.
Jonathan Alvear, Edwin Young, Tim Copeland, Larry Booker, Robert Davis,
Ed Crider, Steve Pixler, Gary Howard, Ron Garrett, Don Meade,
Vaugn Morton, Joel Holmes, D.C. Moody, Tony Moody, and a host of others.

I'm most thankful for my Bishop, Alfred Deeds who is my father in the Lord.

[Carpenter]

You can tell a lot about a person by who they admire! :D

I admire Calvin from Calvin and Hobbs.

I also admire Bobby from the Brady Bunch

I like Pat Boone

...and last but not least, Denny Perdew.

[Tim Rutledge]

I admire Calvin from Calvin and Hobbs.

I also admire Bobby from the Brady Bunch

I like Pat Boone

...and last but not least, Denny Perdew.

Denny?

[Coffee99]

Steadfast, I met Bro. Ewing as a young girl. Always thought he had a beautiful voice. He has, however, helped me more in the last couple of months than he can ever know. You see, we are going through a life-changing storm right now. Some days, my boat gets a little too full and I sit on the floor and cry. Then I listen to Bro. Ewing sing his song that says, "When the Master says enough, it just goes away..." That song, which so speaks to my situation right now, has helped me through many dark hours recently. Would you tell him thank you for me for recording that song?

Others I admire:
Bro. Clyde Haney
Bro. Paul Price
Bro. BJ Thomas
Bro. Kenneth Haney
Bro. Rex Johnson
Bro. Jack DeHart

[Brad Murphy]

Preachers that have gone on to their reward..
Elder W. Verbal Bean
Bishop Leonard E. Westberg
Bishop I. H. Terry

A few of the preachers that have helped me over the yrs.
Jonathan Alvear, Edwin Young, Tim Copeland, Larry Booker, Robert Davis,
Ed Crider, Steve Pixler, Gary Howard, Ron Garrett, Don Meade,
Vaugn Morton, Joel Holmes, D.C. Moody, Tony Moody, and a host of others.

I'm most thankful for my Bishop, Alfred Deeds who is my father in the Lord.

I would never have guessed... :) That man had a great love for my family.....................


NOT!

[Connmega]

I have some old preaching tapes of Paul Money from the 70’s that always strengthen my relationship with the lord.

Even though I heard them over and over…

He is definitely a great Leader in the UPC.

[ThePastorsCoach]

I heard Pastor Wayne McClain from Houston preach a message at a Deeper Life Conference in Jackson, MS at FPC - "MOST LIKELY, YOU WILL NOT CHANGE"!
It shook me to my core - I was determined - I WILL CHANGE!
I DID!
Great Preachers I have heard that their messages impacted me and helped me in a powerful way.
Evangelist R. W. Schambach
Bishop Gilbert Earl Patterson
Pastor P.T. McClure
Bishop Wayne Malcolm - London, England
Pastor Mark Hanby - Every message I have ever heard him preach.
Pastor Jentezen Franklin
Pastor Tommy Barnett
Bishop T. F. Tenney
Revivalist Tommy Tenney
Bishop T. D. Jakes
Bishop J. O. Patterson
Bishop Joseph Garlington

My Favorite Pastor - Preacher in the UPC - Impacted my life in a powerful way in his personal prayer life and sacrifice & cutting edge Preaching - Pastor Ron Libby.

[Rhoni]

There have been many great men and women of God who have impacted my life:
1. Rev. Paul R. Kearney [deceased]
2. Rev. Robert Trapani
3. Rev. Edward Kozar
4. Rev. T.F. Tenney
5. Rev. TL Craft
6. Rev. A.D. Spears
7. Dr. Jerold Jeffers
8. Rev. Rashidi C0llins
9. Rev. Jon Suber
10. Rev. Richard Martin
11. Sis Ruby Martin
12. Bro. Dan Lewis
13. Sis Jewel Dillon
14. Sis Pam Nolde
15. Sis Ruth Ann Kerr
16. Bro. Lynn Sizemore
17. Rev. & Sis Anthony Ballestero
18. Rev. James Wolfe
19. Sis Nancy Elrod
20. Rev. Phil Smith
21. Rev. Rayford Strange
22. Rev. L. William Schmidt [deceased]
23. Sis. Faith [Schmidt] St. Clair
24. Sis Ruth [Reider] Harvey
25. Rev. Ron Libby
26. Rev. Mike Chance
27. Rev. Leroy Buller
28. Rev John Kershaw
29. Neva Scott
30. Sis. Mickey Mangun

There are others but these are coming quickly to my mind. I'll tell you why tomorrow.

Love & Blessings,
Rhonda Cyprus

[LaGirl]

TW Barnes

[Carpenter]

Denny?. Yes its Denny not danny perdew. You know the guy?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Elder Paul Robinson had a love for lost souls that inspires me to this day.

Rev Rufus & Sis Pam Parker - These people loved on me. Pastor Parker was like a Dad to me. They taught me by example. They trusted me and I them. Sis Parker introduced me to Praise and Worship Music.

Bishop James Gilbert was so strong and so wise. For some reason, he took a strong liking to me and he trusted me. I love them both him and his wife, though Sis Gilbert and I had our share of run ins. Despite the mess, they loved and trusted wretched me.

Rev Michael Williams - I would be either on my way to hell or in hell if it was not for this man's preaching and influence in my life. I am not exaggerating. When I thought that I was hopelessly bound by the chains of an horrible addiction and sinful lifestyle, the Lord used him to preach deliverance to my soul. He loved me. He knew who I was by name. When I felt worthless, he made me feel important. His sermons were life changing, powerful. His sermons were always relevant.

Man, do I have some fond memories of my times w/ the UPCI!!!!

[Tim Rutledge]

. Yes its Denny not danny perdew. You know the guy?

Never heard of Denny.

[jaxfam6]

Small question here, does it have to be MEN that we admire? What if there is a WOMAN we admire?
Reason I am asking is I have been going through this in my head and I have a few men I could add but I also have a few women I admire also. Woman preacher or not there are women that have a presence and spirit about them that even male preachers could learn from. (if they would get off their high horse)

disclaimer: That is not aimed at anyone in particular just a comment about A LOT of the preachers I have seen and met in my day, not all mind you. They tend to feel there is nothing they can learn from other men let alone women.

[Rhoni]

Small question here, does it have to be MEN that we admire? What if there is a WOMAN we admire?
Reason I am asking is I have been going through this in my head and I have a few men I could add but I also have a few women I admire also. Woman preacher or not there are women that have a presence and spirit about them that even male preachers could learn from. (if they would get off their high horse)

disclaimer: That is not aimed at anyone in particular just a comment about A LOT of the preachers I have seen and met in my day, not all mind you. They tend to feel there is nothing they can learn from other men let alone women.

I put women in my post.:friend

[Brad Murphy]

Can it just be men, or does it have to be ministers?

[jaxfam6]

I put women in my post.:friend

Of course AFTER I posted I saw that. =)


lets see......

Jonathan Alvear is up on my list, now I have not heard him in over 20 years but he always had a great spirit about him.
Can not forget his father Juan Alvear
Anyone who knows my brother Tom better NEVER tell him I put him on my list. Although he was my pastor when I was younger he isn't any longer. I think I learned to appreciate him more as a bother and adviser more in recent years than before.
Elder Robert Cavaness (deceased) He was an awesome man of God. Compassionate and caring and a few steps ahead of his generation.
Albert Edwards, great friend. He showed me the power of true friendship and gave me an understanding of sacrifice.
George Pantages, his ministry and understanding of forgiveness goes beyond anything I have ever seen.
Of course I have left my current pastor off because you wanted to know about those other than our pastor. He is an awesome man though. Go Bro Romo. =)

Connie James: my big sissy, one of my best friends, adviser, teacher, and all around good gal. Always going to tell it like it is even if it hurts her and you. She never does anything out of the emotions of the moment. She has taught me temperence and patience. Also to trust in God for ALL things even when you feel like the world is coming to an end.
I must say she learned a lot of it from our mother so can not leave off Ethel Jacks. Love that women.
Sis Alvear, Jonathan's wife, that women has strength beyond belief. To survive what she has experienced in life you would have to be strong. I would have begged for death I am sure.
Sis Janice Alvear, a lady of the highest caliber. If only I were as willing to follow God where ever he leads like she has been willing to do.

Josh and Asleigh Barsotti, A young missionary couple that is willing to go any where that God wants the to go to see the world evangelized. Right now they are in India and next year they are headed back to Norway. God bless and keep them. May a few of us old folk be as willing to do as God wants as they are.

This will have to do for now.

=)


Oh one last person. My wife, she has shown me love, forgiveness, understanding, compassion, long suffering, meekness, and the list could go on forever.
Love you Gina, with all my heart.

[stmatthew]

In my younger days, I would say that I was influenced a lot by my dad (deceased), who was my Pastor.

I was greatly influenced by David Terrell, and most of the "healing evangelists" of the 50's, 60's, and 70's, as I either saw them, or read their books. I formed much of my beliefs in Gods ability and desire to heal by seeing him do so thereby confirming his word. My wife and I both received the Holy Ghost in a David Terrell tent meeting.

I took a turn in the early 90's after a youth Camp we took our kids to in Christenburg, VA that Bro Tom Peters was having. I met Pastor Jerry Cox of Franklinton, LA, and saw the Love of God permeating from him in a way that I had not seen before. Though he would likely not remember me, my contact with him changed my life. I can state that through the encounter with him, I found conservativism.

Pastor Tim Cormier also greatly influence my life. The man truly was what I would think of when I say the word Pastor. He was also a tremendous teacher. I think if I could pick any man as a Pastor today, it would be this man. When I broke away from him to "spread my wings" and attempt to fly, I did not do it right, and wish I could go back and redo it all. My heart weeps just thinking about it.

Bro RE Strange has been both a Father and a friend to me since we met on GNC many years back. I have learned Much from him, and love him dearly.

There are so many others that I could list. Elder's Alvear, McMullin, Bean, Ballestero (father and son).... The list goes on. I am a product of the men and women that God has placed around me over the course of my life. Some of the influences were for the good, some not. I have learned what TO DO, and what NOT TO DO. I have gained, and I have lost. I have learned to be abase, and abound. I am truly thankful for a God that would live me enough to take notice of this Jacob, and make me an Israel.

[crakjak]

John Wesley-preached to thousands
William Wilberforce-thru commitment to his faith, ended the slave trade in England
Billy Graham-has stood the test of time by his humility and character, integrated his crusades in the 1950's
Nelson Mandala-Quietly practiced the principles of Christ, saved Africa from a bloodbath

[A_PoMo]

Bono, Martin Luther, Martin Luther King Jr., Gandhi, Nelson Mandela...and all the Christian martyrs.

[ReddMann24]

Small question here, does it have to be MEN that we admire? What if there is a WOMAN we admire?
Reason I am asking is I have been going through this in my head and I have a few men I could add but I also have a few women I admire also. Woman preacher or not there are women that have a presence and spirit about them that even male preachers could learn from. (if they would get off their high horse)

disclaimer: That is not aimed at anyone in particular just a comment about A LOT of the preachers I have seen and met in my day, not all mind you. They tend to feel there is nothing they can learn from other men let alone women.

T.F. Tenney & Lee Stoneking have both said that they were preached to the altar or lead to GOD by women....just a thought for the hardliners out there.
Some men i admire- tf tenney anthony mangun Dr. gerald geffers ( was glad to see rhoni listed him) Rusty Riddick, Don Privett.
women I admire: thetus tenney cheryl Riddick ...I was close minded on this subject for a long time so Im sure there will be more I can list in the future

[Sister Alvear]

and some of those hard liners were won by women too...most would never admit it...

[ReddMann24]

and some of those hard liners were won by women too...most would never admit it...

yea i can only imagine ...i have tramendous respect for many women who serve GOD i only listed the ones ive heard preach or teach i know there are many others.i can only hope to be the kind of prayer warrior that many of my sisters are.

[Falla39]

Bro. Billy Pendergrass.... Always a good man...

Bro. David Hudspeth....

Bro. Leonard Samson....

Bro. Grisom (Henryetta)

Bro. EG Bass...


many good men....

RevRandy,

My brother, Bro. Larry, was in Viet Nam with Bro. David Hudspeth. They
were very close friends.
We owned a little Inn in our city and when David H. and Bro. Larry got
home from Nam, my husband and I gave them a week R & R with their
wives in our "Inn".

Falla39

[Sister Alvear]

Sister Falla you are one of our sweetest posters...my blessings to you and yours.

[Falla39]

Sister Falla you are one of our sweetest posters...my blessings to you and yours.

Sis. Alvear, That's what I think about you!!:friend Thank you for your
sweet words.

Hugs,

Falla39

[BrotherEastman]

Wow! Okay let me think about this. Aside from my current and former pastors:
A. Mangun
Bishop N. Wagner
Bishop L. Gates
Lee Stoneking
T. Pickard
G. Blacksher
E.L. Davenport
J. Arnold
F. Odom
J. Godair
W. Huntley
and some who have passed on who had an impact upon my family such as Benjamin Urshan, N.A. Urshan, Kenneth Fields and a pastor I knew in Arlington, Texas (although I never knew his first name because we called him) Rev. Combs.

[tstew]

Very cliche I know, but I do sincerely admire my father, his ministry, his absolute dedication, his ability to be real, his consistency, and the fact that he walks the walk and is willing to put it all on the line for what he believes. There are many other men and women that I admire, but he has impacted me very greatly and has shaped me in ways that I am just starting to appreciate.

I also obviously admire my pastor...or I would not be in my church :)

[Blubayou]

A man of God I greatly admire is Br. Elton " Tony" Bernard. He left a successful career to answer the call to preach. He felt the call to Korea, a country he went to in a time of war. After much sacrifice, they were appointed to Korea where they served successfully for 20 years. They founded a church that is self sufficient today. After retiring from the mission field. They came to Gonzales, Louisiana to plant a church there. After growing a thriving church in that city, he stumbled on some Spanish men who were working in the states and began to witness to them. As a result he has a very successful Spanish ministry in the same town. He has proven his love for souls and devotion to his calling.

[Sister Alvear]

I admire Pastor Bryan Taylor, he has always been my pastor. I admire my husband Raul Alvear Sr. Pastor Lizarraga, and a host more!

[Sister Alvear]

Can we start a thread of pastors we do not admire????????????ha......

[DAII]

Yes, you have it right.

After the merger, you would never hear br. Glass state a PCI position or would he state an exclusive PAJC case. He knew how to keep peace in the spirit of the merger. He was a class act in all things.

I know both Jr. and Jimmy too but I have never spoken to them about any of this. I think that their mother is still alive...I could be mistaken.

I also remember when he told about the days that Raymond G. Hoekstra resigned the church to promote Little David, leaving the church to his assistant N.A. Urshan. During that time the Latter Rain broke out, invading many Oneness churches, sweeping many of them away. Not long afterwards, Ray Hoekstra returned and wanted his church back. The problem was, he had gone nuts with the L.R. movement, even became shaky on the doctrine. Bro. Urshan called men like Br. Glass and br. Guidroz who helped him steady the ship.

In the end, since Hoekstra, who later became Chaplan Ray could not take the church back, he tried to split it. Bro. Urshan only lost one family.

Bro Glass was a strong steadying force in those days. I remember the story of how he was nominated to run as the first DS of La. Bro. S.L. Wise was also nominated. The vote tied on the first ballot. The vote tied on the second ballot. The vote time on the third ballot. Finally, bro. Glass deferred to br. Wise...a story which would touch your heart, he won the deep affections of the whole district from then on.

If there be a young minister that would like to "learn how to preach," I would certainly recommend that they get every tape of Br. Glass' preaching. The message that he preached at the 1957 Gen Conference in Little Rock which I attened was an all time classic, "The Lord Hath Need of it." I will never forget it.

The last message that I heard him preach shortly before his death was, "God Gives Every Man an Equal Chance." It was probably the finest message that the 80 something year old man ever preached with a voice as clear and strong as it ever was...even when he was a young, strong black headed man.

He baptized me. So, I have a natural affection for him in that regard.

I have some questions about this resignation.
I know the history at the Calvary Tabernacle reflects Hoekstra made a "strong recommendation" to have NAU take over as pastor as does the book United We Stand.
Did Hoekstra feel he had officially resigned over Calvary Tabernacle when he left on tour with Little David?

It just seems odd that he made such a 180.

[Praxeas]

What is wrong specifically with the latter rain movement? Their emphasis on the gifts? What?

[TJJJ]

A man you all admire?



Here i am!!!!



And your second wish!!!!!




Hahhahahaha

[Pastor Keith]

What is wrong specifically with the latter rain movement? Their emphasis on the gifts? What?

In short it (Latter Rain) became abusive in some areas, including the following:

The church began to be governed through the gifts of the Spirit, etc.

Prophetic Presbytery, meaning offices and positions in the church were given only if you went and had this type of ministry etc.

In an effort to recover some lost anointing, imbalance and abuse became rampant, so most Pastors wanted nothing to do with it.

It is my understanding that this started in Camp Meeting in Saskatchewan Canada in the 1940's.

I have a book by Ernest Gentile that explains this in detail.