McCain 48% Clinton 40%... McCain 47% Obama 41%....

[TRFrance]

Latest Poll Numbers.
You John McCain Fans Should Like This!


Election 2008: McCain vs. Clinton and Obama
McCain Leads Obama by Six, Clinton by Eight



Wednesday, January 30, 2008
The latest Rasmussen Reports survey of Election 2008 shows Republican frontrunner Senator John McCain with single-digit leads over Democratic Senators Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. McCain now leads Clinton 48% to 40%. He leads Barack Obama 47% to 41%.


In a Rasmussen Reports poll conducted mid-January (http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/john_mccain_match_ups/clinton_47_mccain_45_obama_46_mccain_41), McCain was two points behind Clinton, five behind Obama. A couple days later McCain won the South Carolina primary.


McCain has led Clinton in four of the last five polling match-ups conducted by Rasmussen Reports. He has had the edge over Obama in three of the last four polls. (see history and trends (http://rasmussenreports.com/premium_content/match_ups/john_mccain_match_ups)). Following his victory in Florida, Rasmussen Markets (http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/rasmussen_markets/mccain_wins_florida_heavily_favored_to_win_nominat ion)data indicates that McCain is the overwhelming favorite for the Republican Presidential nomination....

The complete article is here:

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/john_mccain_match_ups/election_2008_mccain_vs_clinton_and_obama

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[TRFrance]

Another good link to keep track of, for those election-watchers like myself...

RealClearPolitics.com 2008 National tracking poll. (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html)

Currently this poll has McCain leading by an average of 1.8 percentage points (averaging out several polls)

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[pelathais]

And to think, a few months ago I didn't even think there were any "John McCain fans!" He must have been putting a lot of work into the little things along the way like grassroots organizations.

And his repeated "repentance" for working with Teddy K. on that awful Illegal Alien Amnesty bill last year has helped. I figured he was dead in the water after that gaff.

And thanks for the links, TRFrance.

[stmatthew]

I believe there are hanging Thads in FL!!!! :irate

[TRFrance]

And thanks for the links, TRFrance.

Sure.
Love your avatar by the way.
Kinda cruel, but kinda funny at the same time. :O)

[TRFrance]

The conventional wisdom is, McCain will probably choose Huckabee as his running mate, to gather in the more conservative Republican side.

And if he wins, he'll probably choose Giuliani as either head of Homeland Security, or Attorney General.

Makes sense to me.
Sounds a lot better than President Hillary Clinton/Vice President Barack Obama

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[Ferd]

Not so sure I like John for president.

Wrong on taxes
Wrong on immagration
Wrong on supreme court.

exactly what do republicans see in him?

[TRFrance]

Not so sure I like John for president.

Wrong on taxes
Wrong on immagration
Wrong on supreme court.

exactly what do republicans see in him?

I'm not crazy about him either.

But what he has going for him is that:
1/ He's not Hillary
2/ He has a good chance to beat Hillary in a head-to-head matchup.

[Hoovie]

Not so sure I like John for president.

Wrong on taxes
Wrong on immagration
Wrong on supreme court.

exactly what do republicans see in him?

Speaking of which... how did you like Dole, Bush, and W on these issues??

They were no different than McCain on this stuff. It puzzles me that Rush and others "conservatives" could love "Dole" but dispise a McCain... (Who I also would'nt give a dime for).

[Ferd]

Speaking of which... how did you like Dole, Bush, and W on these issues??

They were no different than McCain on this stuff. It puzzles me that Rush and others "conservatives" could love "Dole" but dispise a McCain... (Who I also would'nt give a dime for).

well, we didnt know where GDub was on immagration until the last year or so, so that doesnt count.

we do know where GDub is on taxes and it is good.
we also know where he is on the supreme court....


G.SR, got a one time pass and got waxed because he wasnt what we are and Dole got what guys like this get so.............

Republicans loose when they run as democrats.

Look, if John wins the nomination, I will put on a happy face and talk him up and vote for him because he really isnt a communist. But that doesnt mean I will like it.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Why is this such a big victory?

1.4 to 1.5 million votes and of those 10% voted for a man not even running......

yawn

[TRFrance]

G.SR, got a one time pass and got waxed because he wasnt what we are and Dole got what guys like this get so.............

Republicans loose when they run as democrats.


Actually, not quite.

Bush Sr lost primarily because of Ross Perot, the third party candidate who got 18% of the vote, and siphoned off enough votes from the Bush to give the election to Clinton.

Nader pretty much did the same thing. He got less than 3% of the vote, but he took a lot of votes from Gore, including 97,000 in Florida which made all the difference. Bush wouldnt have won in 2000 if it wasn't for Nader.

[TRFrance]

Why is this such a big victory?

1.4 to 1.5 million votes and of those 10% voted for a man not even running......

yawn

I'd say because of political momentum. Campaigns live and die by it. It established him as the frontrunner going into super tuesday. Lack of momentum is why Giuliani's poll numbers dropped like a stone in Florida. And momentum is what led McCain to the Florida victory.

PS...
This same momentum is probably why Arnold Schwarzenegger is set to endorse McCain tomorrow in California, as reported tonight on Fox.

[Ferd]

Actually, not quite.

Bush Sr lost primarily because of Ross Perot, the third party candidate who got 18% of the vote, and siphoned off enough votes from the Bush to give the election to Clinton.

Nader pretty much did the same thing. He got less than 3% of the vote, but he took a lot of votes from Gore, including 97,000 in Florida which made all the difference. Bush wouldnt have won in 2000 if it wasn't for Nader.

at the end of the day, GSR did not get re-elected.

by the way, Ron Paul just said that Ronald Reagan wanted to return to the gold standard.

[TRFrance]

at the end of the day, GSR did not get re-elected.


Yes, I know. But it was because of the vote being split, not because of him "not being what we are".
Thats my whole point.

[Apprehended]

I do not get excited about polls where there is neither a Demo or Rep nominee. Besides, polls have a way turning around on a dime. It happens. This is especially true when one candidate says something really dumb as a slip of the tongue, it then is magnified to be bigger than the tower of Babel.

[Felicity]

I'm not excited about McCain. For what it's worth. :lol




Romney looked great again tonight. :D

[Apprehended]

I'm not excited about McCain. For what it's worth. :lol




Romney looked great again tonight. :D

Right...

I would not count Romney out just yet. He has it all together. He is ready to be the President. I like him too. He was my man from the start although I would have prefered Thompson if he could have stood a chance.

We need strong, tall men with statemen looking qualities lighting upon their brow. Big men with noble character, broad shouldered men with conviction who are well able to inspire a nation. Men with a certain look of destiny in their eye, able to impart vision. Tall men with "presence" that command attention like George Washington and Ronald Reagan are in need to fill the highest office in the land.

Send the women folks back home from Washington. They are needed around harth and home. Women wearing breeches do not impress me as leaders, nor do they inspire confidence or instill visions of greatness.

[TRFrance]

Romney?
Did somebody say Romney? hmmm...
Reminds me of my "pic of the day"!! Enjoy. :O)
http://img.coxnewsweb.com/C/06/15/47/image_6547156.jpg

[Pressing-On]

I'm not crazy about him either.

But what he has going for him is that:
1/ He's not Hillary
2/ He has a good chance to beat Hillary in a head-to-head matchup.
One thing to watch here is what K Street does over the next week. If all the GOP lobbyists and interest-group types rally behind McCain, this thing is over.

If they reserve judgment till after Super Tuesday, Romney has a sliver of a chance.

[Pressing-On]

Romney?
Did somebody say Romney? hmmm...
Reminds me of my "pic of the day"!! Enjoy. :O)
http://img.coxnewsweb.com/C/06/15/47/image_6547156.jpg

:toofunny:toofunny:toofunny:toofunny

[Pressing-On]

I'm also hearing that Charlie Crist will more than likely be chosen as his running mate. He is wildly popular in Florida, which the GOP will surely need if it wants to win in November. He is a moderate and McCain will need someone to reassure the conservatives.

[Hoovie]

Here is a political site worth reading.

http://www.theamericancause.org/issues.htm

[Pressing-On]

I'm not excited about McCain. For what it's worth. :lol




Romney looked great again tonight. :D

One thing McCain, well two things, had on Romney was the "surge" in Iraq. Romney wasn't for it only because he didn't think it would help him politically. McCain stood his ground on the surge even when he lost some of his campaign staff over it.

He also got him when Romney mentioned "timetable" concerning Iraq. Even though it is a political buzzword of the moment, it still made Romney look like he was not an all-out supporter of the surge. Even if Romney was not calling it a firm timetable, it still appeared that way.

Whether McCain was right about that or not, it's too subtle of a dig to prove, but we can be sure that Romney would have used that against McCain if he could have.

[pelathais]

Not so sure I like John for president.

Wrong on taxes
Wrong on immagration
Wrong on supreme court.

exactly what do republicans see in him?
But he "heard" us right? Didn't you hear him say that he "heard us?"

[OP_Carl]

Latest Poll Numbers.
You John McCain Fans Should Like This!


Election 2008: McCain vs. Clinton and Obama
McCain Leads Obama by Six, Clinton by Eight

McCain 48% Clinton 40%... McCain 47% Obama 41%

I don't care who conducted the poll or how large their sample was . . . this is completely meaningless. With better than six months until the general election anything could happen. Even the exit polls on election day can't accurately call anything.

McCain might not be a communist, but the some total of what all is buried in his psyche is not much better.

If it is McCain vs. Obama, I may very well vote for Obama just so the leftists get all the blame for the next four years' worth of calamity and stupidity.

[OP_Carl]

. . .
We need strong, tall men with statemen looking qualities lighting upon their brow. Big men with noble character, broad shouldered men with conviction who are well able to inspire a nation. Men with a certain look of destiny in their eye, able to impart vision. Tall men with "presence" that command attention like George Washington and Ronald Reagan are in need to fill the highest office in the land.

Send the women folks back home from Washington. They are needed around harth and home. Women wearing breeches do not impress me as leaders, nor do they inspire confidence or instill visions of greatness.

You, my friend, have a GIFT.

Wait here for just a moment, and a couple of sweet li'l gals will be along to 'exchange gifts' with you . . . .

[OP_Carl]

But he "heard" us right? Didn't you hear him say that he "heard us?"

WHAT???

Whadjyu say?????

John McCain - wasn't he voted 'least likely to listen?' in his high school class?

[Ferd]

But he "heard" us right? Didn't you hear him say that he "heard us?"

yea he "heard" us. and no it doesnt matter. I suspect he will do what he wants anyway.

[DividedThigh]

Not so sure I like John for president.

Wrong on taxes
Wrong on immagration
Wrong on supreme court.

exactly what do republicans see in him?

i sure would like to know that, goodness, somebody help us, dt:tvhappy

[Pressing-On]

i sure would like to know that, goodness, somebody help us, dt:tvhappy

He's simply boring. Romney's biggest problem is that he's a beige businessman, a slick-haired corporate higher-up widely perceived as a flip-flopper. Romney joked on Jay Leno that "at the end of the day, just to really relax, I take off a dark suit and put on a light one." It's a funny line, but it carries a grain of truth: Romney seems like a bureaucrat rather than a regular Joe. - Ben Shapiro


I think Ben is right. lol

[lovinglife]

I hope its McCain/ Huckabee

[Pressing-On]

I hope its McCain/ Huckabee

I promise - it won't be Huckabee.

[lovinglife]

I promise - it won't be Huckabee.

Huckabee as a vice.....? why not? I think (and hope) so..... i will only vote Republican if one of those two are on the ticket

[MissBrattified]

I really do NOT know who I'm going to vote for. I don't like ANY of the candidates.

[lovinglife]

I really do NOT know who I'm going to vote for. I don't like ANY of the candidates.

I really dont either....

[Felicity]

One thing McCain, well two things, had on Romney was the "surge" in Iraq. Romney wasn't for it only because he didn't think it would help him politically. McCain stood his ground on the surge even when he lost some of his campaign staff over it.

He also got him when Romney mentioned "timetable" concerning Iraq. Even though it is a political buzzword of the moment, it still made Romney look like he was not an all-out supporter of the surge. Even if Romney was not calling it a firm timetable, it still appeared that way.

Whether McCain was right about that or not, it's too subtle of a dig to prove, but we can be sure that Romney would have used that against McCain if he could have.Well, there's one thing McCain doesn't have that Romney does. I'll leave you to figure out what that is. :toofunny

[Pressing-On]

Well, there's one thing McCain doesn't have that Romney does. I'll leave you to figure out what that is. :toofunny
LOL! Money for one and nice hair!

[Ferd]

Well, there's one thing McCain doesn't have that Romney does. I'll leave you to figure out what that is. :toofunny

Groupie!

[Ferd]

Huckabee as a vice.....? why not? I think (and hope) so..... i will only vote Republican if one of those two are on the ticket

Romney might pick Huck as a VP candidate because he balances the ticket and provides a southern connection.

McCain will not pick Huck because he doesnt balance the ticket. Both are viewed as "Populist" (read moderate/liberal) Republicans.

McCain is much more likely to pick someone like a Ducan Hunter (but not Duncan Hunter) who is much more of an established solid conservitive. He might pick some former Souther Governer. Some have pointed to the Florida Governer, and while he too is a moderate, he does have the southern connection.

[Felicity]

Groupie!Haha. :lol No way Ferdinand. One thing I'm not -- is a groupie! LOL.

One thing I am -- is a woman who recognizes a great looking, intelligent man when I see one. :happydance

[Ferd]

Haha. :lol No way Ferdinand. One thing I'm not -- is a groupie! LOL.

One thing I am -- is a woman who recognizes a great looking, intelligent man when I see one. :happydance

yea, I know. I seem to remember your penchant for Bill based on looks?

[Ferd]

By the way, once again Huck had the best answers in the debate.

I still like Mitt but I am thinking he will loose.

[Pressing-On]

yea, I know. I seem to remember your penchant for Bill based on looks?

:toofunny

Lord, gag me please!

:toofunny

[Felicity]

By the way, once again Huck had the best answers in the debate. I agree! He did very well last nite. I was frustrated though with Anderson Cooper who was NOT giving equal time to all 4 candidates. :girlytantrum

When Huckabee got a chance to talk he did very well.

[Ferd]

I agree! He did very well last nite. I was frustrated though with Anderson Cooper who was NOT giving equal time to all 4 candidates. :girlytantrum

When Huckabee got a chance to talk he did very well.

Agreed, however, they should have just prevented Ron Paul from being on the panel at all1

Did you hear him talking about the gold standard? geez.

[Felicity]

yea, I know. I seem to remember your penchant for Bill based on looks?You got the wrong person on that one.

I never liked Bill Clinton from the get-go and made remarks about his looks that I might best not repeat here.

Nope - it wasn't me Ferd. :nah

[Ferd]

You got the wrong person on that one.

I never liked Bill Clinton from the get-go and made remarks about his looks that I might best not repeat here.

Nope - it wasn't me Ferd. :nah

well, there goes that theory. maybe it was the opposite? I do feel better knowing you said bad things about bill though! LOL!

[deacon blues]

Not so sure I like John for president.

Wrong on taxes
Wrong on immagration
Wrong on supreme court.

exactly what do republicans see in him?

Hes not "Killary"!

He's not "O Bomb Us"!

Anyone wil be to the right of these two!

With the sentiments of the nation against the GOP, I am afraid that Mac is probably the only guy who can defeat them in a national election.

[deacon blues]

we do know where GDub is on taxes and it is good.


W was great on taxes. He was HORRIBLE on spending. He never ONE TIME vetoed a spending bill that came across his desk when the GOP ran the Congress. I admore Mac'sa willingness to oppose his own party whenever he feels like they are wrong. I don't always agree with him, but he was right to oppose the GOP when it came to over spending, he was right to oppose the GOP when it came to all of the corruption and lobbyist money, he was right to oppose the GOP when it came to the Iraq strategy.

I don't want a party line guy, I want someone who will stand for what he feels is right!

[deacon blues]

I'm not excited about McCain. For what it's worth. :lol




Romney looked great again tonight. :D

Romney reminds me of a guy who will say anything to get elected. Too many flip flops. The Dems will pulverize him with John Kerry-like flip-flop ads and he will lose.

[deacon blues]

Right...

I would not count Romney out just yet. He has it all together. He is ready to be the President. I like him too. He was my man from the start although I would have prefered Thompson if he could have stood a chance.

We need strong, tall men with statemen looking qualities lighting upon their brow. Big men with noble character, broad shouldered men with conviction who are well able to inspire a nation. Men with a certain look of destiny in their eye, able to impart vision. Tall men with "presence" that command attention like George Washington and Ronald Reagan are in need to fill the highest office in the land.

Send the women folks back home from Washington. They are needed around harth and home. Women wearing breeches do not impress me as leaders, nor do they inspire confidence or instill visions of greatness.

Are you kidding me????????

Bill Clinton is tall and was inspiring when he spoke............................

Puhlease! This voting based on imagery is what gets us in trouble! WE'RE NOT VOTING FOR MISS AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!

[deacon blues]

If it is McCain vs. Obama, I may very well vote for Obama just so the leftists get all the blame for the next four years' worth of calamity and stupidity.


I love really well thought out justifications for smart voting:sos

[OP_Carl]

I love really well thought out justifications for smart voting:sos

Let's see yours then!

And if you're so smart, why can't you recognize tongue-in-cheek humor?

[deacon blues]

Let's see yours then!

And if you're so smart, why can't you recognize tongue-in-cheek humor?


Whew!!!!

I thought you were serious! I have been on other forums trying to convince people that voting for someone else or staying home b/c they don't like McCain is assuring an even worse scenario-----KILLARY or O BOMB US in the Oval Office!

Sorry. The logic of some people has me exasperated. I apologize.

Just please vote for McCain if he ends up the nominee.

I mean I wasn't crazy about Bush I back in 1992 but I voted for him so Bill would not get elected. I knew some folks that voted for Perot b/c they liked hisd message. But it was obvious that Ross wasn't going to win. I would have taken another four years of GHWB ANY DAY over the 8 years of Clinton! Same story with Dole. People still voted for Perot.

We have to vote sometimes for the lesser of two evils. Voting your "principles" is admirable but it isn't always very practical. Sometimes the higher principle is to keep a worse leader out of office.

If KILLARY or O BOMB US get elected, the next 4-8 years will be a MAJOR DISASTER!

[OP_Carl]

You do know that Obama isn't actually a Muslim, right?

He's just another misguided upstart leftist, trying to make a name for himself as a populist socialist dreamer.

There's no chicken in his pot, just some thin broth, but he's new and fresh enough that he might take a more studious approach to the presidency than what we've seen in recent years. Which would not necessarily be all bad.

I think a forced national ID and limits on free speech, a la the totalitarian McCain, could turn out to be, in practice, pretty bad.

But I could never vote for a socialist, or anyone who supports gov't funding of abortion.

[Felicity]

Romney reminds me of a guy who will say anything to get elected. Too many flip flops. The Dems will pulverize him with John Kerry-like flip-flop ads and he will lose.Well DB...... I wasn't really commenting on his politics. ;) :D

[TRFrance]

We need strong, tall men with statemen looking qualities lighting upon their brow. Big men with noble character, broad shouldered men with conviction who are well able to inspire a nation. Men with a certain look of destiny in their eye, able to impart vision. Tall men with "presence" that command attention like George Washington and Ronald Reagan are in need to fill the highest office in the land.


Oh, the absurdity!
Do you have any idea how irrational this sounds?
What does a man's height have to do with his leadership ability?

The bible tells us that Saul, one of the worst kings of Israel, was a very tall man.

Winston Churchill, one of the most inspiring leaders of the 20th century, was short.

[Felicity]

I feel sorry for you Americans when it comes election time and having to make a choice. Nothing to get too excited about, eh?



:)

[Barb]

I feel sorry for you Americans when it comes election time and having to make a choice. Nothing to get too excited about, eh?



:)

Not really, girl...

[Dora]

I'm completely frustrated with our Republican choices for Prez.

I will NOT vote for a Mormon.

McCain is just a Dem mislabeled as a Republican.

Rudy Guilliani is out of the running (I might have voted for him).

Thompson is out of the running (I would have voted for him).

Huckabee makes me crazy...He sticks his foot in his mouth all the time and doesn't stay up on the issues.

Ron Paul is WHACKED in the head.

I may not vote this time...UGH!

Hillary is a disaster waiting to happen. She'll probably have a nervous breakdown in the White House if she is elected. Bill will be a real spectacle as a house husband...good grief!

It's weird to me to think of having a PREZ with a Muslim name - Barak Osama...er...Obama.