ON SUPER TUESDAY I will Vote For:

[Hoovie]

Please, only vote if your state is voting on Tuesday, Feb. fith.

Thanks!

[StMark]

okay I voted Steve but I'm not saying who i casted my vote for

[seguidordejesus]

St Mark we all know you voted for Billary, just fess up to it.

[MissBrattified]

I still don't know who I'll vote for. I'm really at a loss on this one.

[grace_seeker]

Since I am still a British Subject, I cannot vote. You can thank July 4th for that.

[seguidordejesus]

Since I am still a British Subject, I cannot vote. You can thank July 4th for that.

what??

[chseeads]

Go Giants!!!

Oh....wait....this is a different Super thing.....nevermind.

[StMark]

The king is coming

the King is coming

I just heard the trumpet sounding

and soon his face I'll see

the king is coming .....







anyone remember that song ???

[embonpoint]

The king is coming

the King is coming

I just heard the trumpet sounding

and soon his face I'll see

the king is coming .....







anyone remember that song ???

The market place is empty

No more traffic in the street.............

[StMark]

The market place is empty

No more traffic in the street.............

O wow! someone else remembered it!!


I remember hearing that song when i was a little boy- scared me to death!

[StMark]

Steve, here is my prediction:

It's going to be a Hillary/Barak Vs McCain/Gullioni


Hillary & Barak will win

[Hoovie]

Steve, here is my prediction:

It's going to be a Hillary/Barak Vs McCain/Gullioni


Hillary & Barak will win

They might - if you are right, because I may be inclined not to vote at all.

[Felicity]

If they keep showing those clips of Romney with the white shirt opened at the neck and necktie and sleeves rolled up I wouldn't be able to help myself voting for him.

:toofunny

[Hoovie]

:smack


:scripture


If they keep showing those clips of Romney with the white shirt opened at the neck and necktie and sleeves rolled up I wouldn't be able to help myself voting for him.

:toofunny

[rgcraig]

If they keep showing those clips of Romney with the white shirt opened at the neck and necktie and sleeves rolled up I wouldn't be able to help myself voting for him.

:toofunny

WHAT????? :girlyluv

[rgcraig]

Steve, here is my prediction:

It's going to be a Hillary/Barak Vs McCain/Gullioni


Hillary & Barak will win

I hope you are WRONG!

[Pressing-On]

I hope you are WRONG!
I could be wrong because I thought the Patriots would win yesterday - :toofunny - BUT I think the people want to back someone that is strong on the war on terror.

The media can try to turn the attention to the economy, but the American people have terrorism on their minds. We will always have safety on our minds.

[DividedThigh]

The king is coming

the King is coming

I just heard the trumpet sounding

and soon his face I'll see

the king is coming .....



yes i remember that song, i remember being about 11 and hearing the choir sing that song and running to the altar, no joke, by the way i am sorry but i cant beleive there are people on here who will vote for hilary or obama, dt:tvhappy

[tamor]

I hope you are WRONG!

Me too!

[MrsMcD]

I still don't know who I will vote for. There isn't any outstanding republican in my opinion.

[Aquila]

There isn't difference between the candidates in reality. One is either voting for big business interests or bigger government. Both parties are now socially liberal, the Republicans only give lip service to conservative social issues to dupe the gullible. The Republicans really haven't done that good of a job: the dollar's down, manufacturing is dying, more jobs forecasted to move overseas, the unemployment rate is up a bit, the markets have taken a major hit, and the necessity of the war in Iraq is questionable, and record numbers of Americans and American businesses can't afford health insurance packages. Other countries (including socialist countries) are well ahead of us when it comes to business, value of their currency, manufacturing, education, and health care. The road we're on isn't going to take us anywhere, I think the American people will choose a new direction to see where that takes us.

[DividedThigh]

There isn't difference between the candidates in reality. One is either voting for big business interests or bigger government. Both parties are now socially liberal, the Republicans only give lip service to conservative social issues to dupe the gullible. The Republicans really haven't done that good of a job: the dollar's down, manufacturing is dying, more jobs forecasted to move overseas, the unemployment rate is up a bit, the markets have taken a major hit, and the necessity of the war in Iraq is questionable, and record numbers of Americans and American businesses can't afford health insurance packages. Other countries (including socialist countries) are well ahead of us when it comes to business, value of their currency, manufacturing, education, and health care. The road we're on isn't going to take us anywhere, I think the American people will choose a new direction to see where that takes us.

my friend you are entitled to your opinion of course, but one thing, unemployment is not up, lol,dt

[LaGirl]

O wow! someone else remembered it!!


I remember hearing that song when i was a little boy- scared me to death!


i have not heard that in YEAAAAAARS!

[Aquila]

my friend you are entitled to your opinion of course, but one thing, unemployment is not up, lol,dt

Unemployment is not up compared to last month. However, the adminstration's forecast on employment was far higher than what we're seeing. Unemployment is higher than we were told was to be expected. So it's a mixed bag.

[DividedThigh]

Unemployment is not up compared to last month. However, the adminstration's forecast on employment was far higher than what we're seeing. Unemployment is higher than we were told was to be expected. So it's a mixed bag.

whatever, i just follow the real numbers, since they effect my job , lol, god bless you , dt:tvhappy

[Aquila]

whatever, i just follow the real numbers, since they effect my job , lol, god bless you , dt:tvhappy

I'm glad to hear that the unemployment rate was better than what I thought I heard. That's good for all of us.

[Felicity]

:smack


:scriptureWell to me none of these candidates are very appealing as far as truth and real convictions go.

But Romney at least has looks, so given the options, I'd go for that.

Goodness! Every time I see him I'm like ...... "What a GREAT looking man!"

Can't help it. I got eyes after all! :toofunny

[Neck]

I am republican and I will not fill in the presidental portion of the ballot during the Nov elections if John McCain is the nominee.

[Hoovie]

Well to me none of these candidates are very appealing as far as truth and real convictions go.

But Romney at least has looks, so given the options, I'd go for that.

Goodness! Every time I see him I'm like ...... "What a GREAT looking man!"

Can't help it. I got eyes after all! :toofunny

You are a bad, bad girl!!:toofunny

[Pressing-On]

Well to me none of these candidates are very appealing as far as truth and real convictions go.

But Romney at least has looks, so given the options, I'd go for that.

Goodness! Every time I see him I'm like ...... "What a GREAT looking man!"

Can't help it. I got eyes after all! :toofunny

Oh Lord, I have an "unspoken request".

:toofunny:toofunny

[RandyWayne]

I cannot believe there are a total of 6 votes for Billary and Obama.... Unless of course they are strategic in nature. Even Rush has been hinting the past week that he'd rather see a President Hillary than a President McCain. Hillary is at least someone you can fight, but McCain is someone who will bring down the little that is left of the conservative movement in the Republican party.
He champions nearly every liberal economic idea (which do not work), only when they don't work it will be blamed on "conservative policies"......

[Pressing-On]

I cannot believe there are a total of 6 votes for Billary and Obama.... Unless of course they are strategic in nature. Even Rush has been hinting the past week that he'd rather see a President Hillary than a President McCain. Hillary is at least someone you can fight, but McCain is someone who will bring down the little that is left of the conservative movement in the Republican party.

I listened to Obama's wife today. I have to say she presents herself very well.

[Hoovie]

It really depends on who will be McCain's running mate.... whether he can pull the conservatives in.

[Pressing-On]

It really depends on who will be McCain's running mate.... whether he can pull the conservatives in.

Yes, and I hear, as you've probably read, he may be looking at Charlie Crist from Florida who is well liked and conservative. He has also endorsed McCain.

[StMark]

I cannot believe there are a total of 6 votes for Billary and Obama.... Unless of course they are strategic in nature. Even Rush has been hinting the past week that he'd rather see a President Hillary than a President McCain. Hillary is at least someone you can fight, but McCain is someone who will bring down the little that is left of the conservative movement in the Republican party.
He champions nearly every liberal economic idea (which do not work), only when they don't work it will be blamed on "conservative policies"......


A lot of Republicans are going to Barak- did you know that?

even .....what's her name???? long blond hair/???? is going for Hillary if McCain is named as the nominee.

There is little diff. between McCain and the Democrat

[rgcraig]

Well to me none of these candidates are very appealing as far as truth and real convictions go.

But Romney at least has looks, so given the options, I'd go for that.

Goodness! Every time I see him I'm like ...... "What a GREAT looking man!"

Can't help it. I got eyes after all! :toofunny

LOL!

Girl, you need to stay off the Love Song thread today!

Maybe you can get TB to die his hair dark and wear white shirts with the sleeves rolled up!!

[Felicity]

LOL!

Girl, you need to stay off the Love Song thread today!

Maybe you can get TB to die his hair dark and wear white shirts with the sleeves rolled up!!We're just on our way to church - attending a conference where Bro. Mooney is the main speaker. I love that man's preaching! He did a great job last night

Anyhow ..... TB is wearing a white shirt today. May I can get him to loosen his tie and roll his sleeves up later. ;) :toofunny His hair used to be black but it's turned to silver mostly. I've told him he can change that, but he won't listen.

LOL. :)

[MissBrattified]

Well, its a moot point for me...I just realized I can't vote today anyway. :(

Closed primary, and I'm registered as an Independent. Jeff will be voting today...probably for Mitt Romney.

[MissBrattified]

His hair used to be black but it's turned to silver mostly. I've told him he can change that, but he won't listen.

I think men look great with silver or white hair. No need to change anything...:coffee2

[rgcraig]

I think men look great with silver or white hair. No need to change anything...:coffee2

For real....men look distinguished and women just look old.

I realized I can't vote today too - - forgot I moved and didn't register with the correct precinct.

[Pressing-On]

I think men look great with silver or white hair. No need to change anything...:coffee2
I agree. I like a man to be who he is. No hair dye!

For real....men look distinguished and women just look old.

I realized I can't vote today too - - forgot I moved and didn't register with the correct precinct.

Texas doesn't vote until March 4th. Rick Perry is backing McCain.

[ForeverBlessed]

I still don't know who I will vote for. There isn't any outstanding republican in my opinion.

I'm with you on that.... first time in a long time I am so undecided.

We don't vote until first Tuesday in May... so I have a little while.

[StMark]

I could be wrong because I thought the Patriots would win yesterday - :toofunny - BUT I think the people want to back someone that is strong on the war on terror.

The media can try to turn the attention to the economy, but the American people have terrorism on their minds. We will always have safety on our minds.

911 was 7 years ago. we've not had a terrorist attack since.
the Iraq war seems to be winding down and so does the economy.
Therefore, I believe people are going to vote more with their pocket books then with war on their minds.
This could change though.God forbid if there was an attack peoples' priorities would change quickly

[Pressing-On]

911 was 7 years ago. we've not had a terrorist attack since.
the Iraq war seems to be winding down and so does the economy.
Therefore, I believe people are going to vote more with their pocket books then with war on their minds.
This could change though.God forbid if there was an attack peoples' priorities would change quickly
The media is turning the attention away from the war on Terror, Mark. This is an issue that is never going to go away. The economy will always right itself.

The American people are not stupid. JMMHO!

[StMark]

The media is turning the attention away from the war on Terror, Mark. This is an issue that is never going to go away. The economy will always right itself.

The American people are not stupid. JMMHO!

You're right.One of the biggest faults we have as humans is,we forget.
And we have so many distractions.the media knows how to manipulate peoples' thought process and priorities.

[Felicity]

Noticed that MR is leading in the thread poll. After listening to Bro. Mooney this morning talking about some of the Mormon beliefs I guess Americans shouldn't be voting for him.

But then that leaves McCain. Not much of a choice is it?

[DividedThigh]

You're right.One of the biggest faults we have as humans is,we forget.
And we have so many distractions.the media knows how to manipulate peoples' thought process and priorities.

well i sure hope the american people arent that stupid, i am shocked that there are so many libs on here, after all most christians are somewhat conservative anyway, lol,dt:tvhappy

[StMark]

well i sure hope the american people arent that stupid, i am shocked that there are so many libs on here, after all most christians are somewhat conservative anyway, lol,dt:tvhappy

well i vividly recall you stating that you was rooting for Barak.
that's not exactly conservative you know???

[DividedThigh]

well i vividly recall you stating that you was rooting for Barak.
that's not exactly conservative you know???

you dont vividly nothing recall that , i am against all democrats, dont even kid yourself, lol,dt conservative, reagan republican, my picture is over that in the book, lol,dt

[DividedThigh]

well i vividly recall you stating that you was rooting for Barak.
that's not exactly conservative you know???

dont make me hurt you, lol,dt:happydance

[Ron]

One question?

Why vote twice?

You are voting for a nomination now & a president in November.

Seems redundant to me!

[DividedThigh]

One question?

Why vote twice?

You are voting for a nomination now & a president in November.

Seems redundant to me!

duhhh, lol, love ya ron, dt:tvhappy

[Hoovie]

So... Huckabee won tonight in MO, WV, GA, TN, AR, AL

Hmmm.... it's getting interesting

[rgcraig]

One question?

Why vote twice?

You are voting for a nomination now & a president in November.

Seems redundant to me!

Have to vote the nomination for each party, then in Nov. vote which one of those wins.

[Pressing-On]

Something very interesting. Polls say that the Iraq war was a higher percentage concern for the Democrats than the Republicans. Hmmm....... Who are they going to vote for?

[Hoovie]

Something very interesting. Polls say that the Iraq war was a higher percentage concern for the Democrats than the Republicans. Hmmm....... Who are they going to vote for?

In their view it's an issue because they are eager to end it by admitting defeat.

[Hoovie]

So... Huckabee won tonight in MO, WV, GA, TN, AR, AL

Hmmm.... it's getting interesting

OK - so Huck ended up losing to McCain in MO.

[TalkLady]

OK - so Huck ended up losing to McCain in MO.

Huckabee won in TN...Some thanks go to Huckabee "Rangers"...lol

[Aquila]

I think continuing to occupy a nation in the Arab world, spending nearly 10 billion on the war a month, threatening Iran and anything that moves, the most extensive deployments with multiple tours, lowering enlistment numbers, military spread very thin, fighting on two fronts with the Taliban making gains in Afghanistan...I think maintaining the Republican course in Iraq makes us more volunerable than the Democratic plan to hand over the reigns to the Iraqi people and starting to pull out. The Republicans have been talking about a 100 year war. Bro...we can't pull that off.

We need to focus on DOMESTIC security measures. I believe the Democrats are far better with domestic security issues. I also think the Democrats are going to do better forming counter terror alliances on the international scene. So far it seems most of the world feels we've acted with hubris by disregarding international law and treaties. I honestly think the Democrats will do far better if given the chance.

Just my humble opinion on the Global War on Terror and national security.

Isaiah 2:4
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

It's time to allow the Prince of Peace to wage this war.

[TalkLady]

When the Republicans lost their core values of fiscal conservatism, balancing the budget, small government, etc, they really blew it....Some of the Republicans who were elected in 1994 are just sending home "pork" to their constituents. I could make analogies here, but I'll spare everyone.

I will agree with Barak Obama on one thing. We should have NEVER gone to war in Iraq. Some people will vote for him because of that one stance.

Conservatism = Most of The Repulican Party of 2008 ...Nawww, I don't think so.:girlytantrum...I wish.

[StMark]

WOW!!! i am Shocked! Hillary took California and New York by storm!

I really thought Barak was going to take it here.


McCain looks so OLD and PASTEY- washed up washed out. he sounds boring


He'll get the nomination but he wont win - sorry FERD

[Pressing-On]

In their view it's an issue because they are eager to end it by admitting defeat.

Stephen,
I've always believed the opinions are skewed. When you see rallies of any sort it's normally young, unkempt kids that don't even vote anyway. :toofunny

[Elizabeth]

WOW!!! i am Shocked! Hillary took California and New York by storm!

I really thought Barak was going to take it here.


McCain looks so OLD and PASTEY- washed up washed out. he sounds boring


He'll get the nomination but he wont win - sorry FERD

Mark you are sooo bad! :toofunny:toofunny

I dont like McCain either!!!

[Raven]

WOW!!! i am Shocked! Hillary took California and New York by storm!

I really thought Barak was going to take it here.


McCain looks so OLD and PASTEY- washed up washed out. he sounds boring


He'll get the nomination but he wont win - sorry FERD
StMark
I believe you're a prophet indeed!
Raven

[Hoovie]

StMark
I believe you're a prophet indeed!
Raven

He is a prophet alright.... OF DOOM!

[DividedThigh]

i dont like mccain either, to liberal, but he is better than a dem, lol,dt:tvhappy

[MrsMcD]

i dont like mccain either, to liberal, but he is better than a dem, lol,dt:tvhappy

Yep, this is my opinion also. I didn't think that he would do as well as he did.

[George]

I voted for Hillary. Get two for the price of one. :toofunny

[DividedThigh]

Yep, this is my opinion also. I didn't think that he would do as well as he did.

no way around it sis, imho, dt go girl, lol:tvhappy

[Pressing-On]

Does anyone know who said this?

“At home, Americans have lost trust in their government. To restore their trust, I will secure our borders, veto pork-barrel bills, keep taxes low and reform our tax code. I will nominate judges who do not legislate from the bench. I will seek to modernize Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, bring choice and competition to our schools.”

Romney or McCain?

[DividedThigh]

Does anyone know who said this?



Romney or McCain?

so which one or who did say that, i would be surprised if it is mccain, he like taxes, lol, dt:tvhappy

[Pressing-On]

so which one or who did say that, i would be surprised if it is mccain, he like taxes, lol, dt:tvhappy

Both said it.

We will get a better idea of where he stands when he gives his GOPAC speech tomorrow.

It will be stream lived here:

http://www.exploremccain.com/

[DividedThigh]

Both said it.

We will get a better idea of where he stands when he gives his GOPAC speech tomorrow.

It will be stream lived here:

http://www.exploremccain.com/

thanks for the info po, lol,dt:tvhappy

[Elizabeth]

Yep, this is my opinion also. I didn't think that he would do as well as he did.

See I am with you, his rise and then winning totally took me off guard. People really like McCain??

What if it was fixed lol!

[Pressing-On]

See I am with you, his rise to winning totally took me off guard. People really like McCain??

What if it was fixed lol!

Frankly, the American people like someone that will stand up and not be pushed around. He is that way, for all it's worth.

I'm still deciphering all of this. I have varying reports on him. Over all what I am hearing is that he would be a much better choice than Hillary or Obama and would never take the country that far left and at least he doesn't hide his liberalism with some of his views.

Those two points pervade both sides of the debate on accepting him.

He says here:

"Over the past year, I have traveled the country campaigning with candidates running for local, state, and federal office and I've been constantly proud to stand with Republican candidates in supporting a secure homeland, fiscal responsibility, ethics in government, and common sense conservative principles. With the formation of John McCain 2008 - The Exploratory Committee, I will continue my conversation with the American people over the direction of the Republican Party and the future of our country."

"Our Party suffered an electoral setback last Tuesday, but that defeat was not a repudiation of our values and our beliefs; America remains a conservative country. Rather, the election results were an expression of frustration with Washington gridlock and Washington's lack of touch with real America. In 1994, American voters sent Republicans to Congress to change government; instead, we became government. This Thursday, November 16, I will give a major address on my vision for the Republican Party and how we will get back on the path to victory. Please join me at www.exploremccain.com to watch the speech live online at 7:10 PM. Thank you for your past support and encouragement and I look forward to continuing our efforts together to reform Washington and keep America safe at home and abroad."

We shall see how we feel tomorrow.

[Aquila]

so which one or who did say that, i would be surprised if it is mccain, he like taxes, lol, dt:tvhappy

Isn't it interesting how we like to focus on how Republicans lower taxes...but under them the cost of living and health insurane has nearly eaten up any gains we made from less taxes.

After the value of the dollar goes down, people slide into negative equity in their home loans, fuel prices nearly double, and health insurance rates jump significantly twice a year...I've more than lost my gains from the tax cuts.

With Federal CDBG block grant funding cuts to pay for the tax cuts stimulating an increase in local property taxes and add the rising cost of living all the Republicans did for me is increase my tax burden. Of course if I made over $200,000 a year or was a large corporation I'd be living it up.

I crunched the numbers...though I technically don't pay as much in taxes right now...I had more of my pay check for non-descretinoary spending under Clinton...and I made less on the hour.

So the whole "Republicans lower taxes" bit doesn't impress me.

[Aquila]

You know what I'm not hearing a lot about right now? The Republican plan for privatizing Social Security retirement accounts and investing them in the market. LOL

[DividedThigh]

Isn't it interesting how we like to focus on how Republicans lower taxes...but under them the cost of living and health insurane has nearly eaten up any gains we made from less taxes.

After the value of the dollar goes down, people slide into negative equity in their home loans, fuel prices nearly double, and health insurance rates jump significantly twice a year...I've more than lost my gains from the tax cuts.

With Federal CDBG block grant funding cuts to pay for the tax cuts stimulating an increase in local property taxes and add the rising cost of living all the Republicans did for me is increase my tax burden. Of course if I made over $200,000 a year or was a large corporation I'd be living it up.

I crunched the numbers...though I technically don't pay as much in taxes right now...I had more of my pay check for non-descretinoary spending under Clinton...and I made less on the hour.

So the whole "Republicans lower taxes" bit doesn't impress me.

you talkin to me, lol, dt:toofunny

[rgcraig]

Sorry Felicity!

WASHINGTON (AP) - Mitt Romney will either suspend his presidential campaign or withdraw completely from the presidential race, The Associated Press has learned.

(Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

[DividedThigh]

there are some back room meetings goin on, lol, you know it, dt:tvhappy

[rgcraig]

there are some back room meetings goin on, lol, you know it, dt:tvhappy

Some deals being made.

[DividedThigh]

Some deals being made.

i beleive that is happenin, lol,dt:happydance

[Pressing-On]

Sorry Felicity!

WASHINGTON (AP) - Mitt Romney will either suspend his presidential campaign or withdraw completely from the presidential race, The Associated Press has learned.

(Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

I heard someone say, yesterday, "He's finding out he can't buy love."

:toofunny

[DividedThigh]

I heard someone say, yesterday, "He's finding out he can't buy love."

:toofunny

thats funny, so true, lol:happydance

[SoCaliUPC]

I will now be looking at a third party candidate.

[StMark]

I will now be looking at a third party candidate.


why? aren't you the big Republican advocate?

3 party is a wasted vote.

McCain is your Man

[rgcraig]

As Deacon Blue pointed out - with McCain at least he has a 80% record of voting conservative.

"And as far as the domestic issues are concerned, we would have an 80% chance McCain will promote policies that we can agree with, and nominate strict constructionist judges to the Supreme Court, and veto tax increases, and oppose gay-rights legislation, and conservatively govern. Hillary and Obama give us a snowballs chance in the lake of fire of doing so."

[StMark]

wow! i just checked the poll and notice there is 10 votes for hillary/barak.

I think them 2 in office would be good for the church.

[Felicity]

Sorry Felicity!

WASHINGTON (AP) - Mitt Romney will either suspend his presidential campaign or withdraw completely from the presidential race, The Associated Press has learned.

(Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)Yep! Another one bites the dust.

[rgcraig]

wow! i just checked the poll and notice there is 10 votes for hillary/barak.

I think them 2 in office would be good for the church.

Yea, it'd keep everyone on their knees praying!!!!

[StMark]

Yea, it'd keep everyone on their knees praying!!!!


That's it! no more ease in zion

[Pressing-On]

Yep! Another one bites the dust.

:toofunny:toofunny:toofunny

[StMark]

It will likely be a McCain / Huckabee ticket or McCain / Gullioni

that's my prediction thus far

[Scott Hutchinson]

I was one of the 43 in my county who voted for Ron Paul.

[Pressing-On]

It will likely be a McCain / Huckabee ticket or McCain / Gullioni

that's my prediction thus far
They are predicting a McCain/Huckabee or McCain/Crist. No way can I believe they would pull in Guiliani. He'd be a great leader, but too much baggage.

[rgcraig]

They are predicting a McCain/Huckabee or McCain/Crist. No way can I believe they would pull in Guiliani. He'd be a great leader, but too much baggage.

I think he's be wise to go with Huckabee - - get all the conservatives out to vote maybe!!!

[Pressing-On]

I think he's be wise to go with Huckabee - - get all the conservatives out to vote maybe!!!

That's what they would want. McCain would also be able to attract some of the more liberal voters that don't want either HIllary or OBama.

[Felicity]

Next US President -------> Obama.

I'm no expert but this is how it's looking to me.

[Barb]

Next US President -------> Obama.

I'm no expert but this is how it's looking to me.

Yes...

[SoCaliUPC]

Next US President -------> Obama.

I'm no expert but this is how it's looking to me.

Scary outlook if this is true.


Someone said that cigarette voice psychic said the same thing a few months ago!

[SoCaliUPC]

I think he's be wise to go with Huckabee - - get all the conservatives out to vote maybe!!!

Huckabee?? Conservative??? :toofunny

[SoCaliUPC]

why? aren't you the big Republican advocate?

3 party is a wasted vote.

McCain is your Man

Sorry...McCain is not my candidate. He has a failed view on immigration. He has no clue what economy is. He is not a conservative. Sorry.....there would have to be a big time change in his policies for me to vote for him.

I can not, in clear conscience, vote for someone who I did not agree with. He does not represent my views.

Obama / McCain or Clinton / McCain in the general election is a scary time for our nation.

[SoCaliUPC]

I was one of the 43 in my county who voted for Ron Paul.

I would not so quickly admit that Scott.

[Scott Hutchinson]

See here.http://www.southalabamian.com
I would vote for Huckabee though.

[Aquila]

you talkin to me, lol, dt:toofunny

Naw. I'm just really upset with the R's right now. lol

[Scott Hutchinson]

See here.http://www.southalabamian.com
I would vote for Huckabee though.

[Aquila]

I believe that the Republicans are just trying to motivate us to vote for them so they can maintain power. I don't believe that they will appoint constructionist judges to the Supreme Court, they will only appoint puppets to the Supreme Court that will favor their corporate globalist agenda and subvert individual liberty. They are using religion and "values" to control and manipulate. It doesn't matter what Republican candidate wins the election...they remake every candidate and sell him as a conservative when he's not. Then when he wins they hand him THEIR agenda. I'm telling you folks...we saw the same thing with Bush. Before Bush won the nomination we were all well aware of his big government "compassionate conservatism." But they sold him as a conservative favoring limited government. Bush has grown the government, regulations, expanded war, and threatened more civil liberties than any Democrat ever has. Bushonomics has left us with massive deficits, a weakened dollar, and an unsteady economy. If you follow the trends, the laws passed, the interests served...you'd almost think they are wrecking things on purpose. Right now they're remaking McCain as we speak. When their done he will look, walk, and talk conservative. But I assure you...he's just another big government neocon who will be used to advance their globalist World Trade agenda that will leave the American economy in shambles, distributing our wealth to Communist China and the third world through trade agreements and laws that hamstring the American economy. They are inside talking our talk and manipulating us. I don't trust them. I don't believe them. While I disagree with the Democrats on two issues, I'd rather see them in power than the current Republican Party. It's not the Republican Party it was 20 years ago. They are deceiving us. The New World Order will be a corporate take over and manipulation of the economies of the leading governments on planet earth. Decisions will be made by an unelected corporate elite that answer to no one and only care about profit. I'm telling you guys...this isn't what you think it is. The real power is in the hands of those behind corporate globalization and world trade. They are marketting geniuses selling us a bad deal. They know just how to package it to make you feel you have to take it. Don't believe them.

"Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective -- a new world order -- can emerge: a new era -- freer from the threat of terror, stronger in the pursuit of justice, and more secure in the quest for peace. An era in which the nations of the world, East and West, North and South, can prosper and live in harmony. A hundred generations have searched for this elusive path to peace, while a thousand wars raged across the span of human endeavor. Today that new world is struggling to be born, a world quite different from the one we've known." - President George Herbert Walker Bush, on September 11, 1990 at 9:09 PM

There is only one candidate not entirely co-opted by the New World Order. Like Kennedy he is a passionate man of the people, you can feel it when he speaks. This candidate is presently the only people's candidate running. He was seriously underestimated. No one ever guessed he'd be the challenge he's become. It was supposed to be one of the initiated...but he's changing the rules of the game.

[Hoovie]

uh... Aquila, what is THIS suposed to mean?

There is only one candidate not entirely co-opted by the New World Order. Like Kennedy he is a passionate man of the people, you can feel it when he speaks. This candidate is presently the only people's candidate running. He was seriously underestimated. No one ever guessed he'd be the challenge he's become. It was supposed to be Clinton...but he's changing the rules of the game.

[Aquila]

It means that there is only one "man of the people" running. The NWO controls the Republican Party and has gained the support of a number of Democrats, namely the Clintons.

[Hoovie]

It means that there is only one "man of the people" running.

got that. WHO?

[Aquila]

Barak Obama

Barak Obama is relatively new to the international political scene and hasn't been completely co-opted by the powers behind the NWO yet. Frankly they didn't invest in him because they never imagined a black man had a chance in the United States. They don't know if he's one of theirs...or if he's going to side with the people and challenge them like President Kennedy did.

[Hoovie]

Barak Obama

Barak Obama is relatively new and fresh to the political scene and hasn't been completely co-opted by the powers behind the NWO yet. Frankly they didn't invest in him because they never imagined a black man had a chance in the United States. They don't know if he's one of theirs...or if he's going to side with the people and challenge them like President Kennedy did.

Incredible.

[Aquila]

Dude, they're scared to death of him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsrgYvx7KJE&feature=user

[Hoovie]

Dude, they're scared to death of him.

Fact is, I would come close to voting for a tax and spend socialist liberal before casting a vote for a murderer - but he is both.

-- And yes, I really do believe abortion is murder of the same rank just prior to birth as after the birth.

[Aquila]

Fact is, I would come close to voting for a tax and spend socialist liberal before casting a vote for a murderer - but he is both.

-- And yes, I really do believe abortion is murder of the same rank just prior to birth as after the birth.

Who has Obama murdered or forced to have an abortion?

You have to see what's happening. You're answering on psychological keys they've programmed you to have. When a solid argument is made that thwarts the globalist Republican elitists they have socially conditioned you to think "abortion". That is designed to use your own religious convictions against you...to serve THEIR interests.

As for taxes...bro...Bush hasn't lowered your taxes. He paid you off with a small tax rebate. In fact your tax shelters have been reduced while the tax shelters for corporate wealthy interests have nearly doubled. This shifts the cost of government to YOU, the middle class working man. The deficits they're running is a political strategy. First it puts us in financial dependency on China. But it also gives them a weapon. Democrats are dedicated to "PayGo" meaning the government pays as it goes, not on credit. The Democrats are committed to a balanced budget. If a Democrat gets elected they have to raise taxes. Why? TO PAY FOR THE REPUBLICAN DEFICITS. They have to get the deficit paid for before they can begin cutting taxes and instituting their platform. This process of cutting the taxes after the deficits are paid typically plays out later in a Democratic administration, this is why you see nice economic results after the deficit is paid. If you don't want the Democrats to raise taxes...don't elect deficit spending Republicans. Remember...the next administration will have to deal with the deficit of the Bush Administration. If it's a Republican administration they'll continue their deficit spending strategy. If they are a Democrat they will raise taxes to pay it off and then cut back with surplus as they position themselves to launch the more robust parts of their platform.

[Hoovie]

Who has Obama murdered or forced to have an abortion?

You have to see what's happening. You're answering on psychological keys they've programmed you to have. When a solid argument is made that thwarts the globalist Republican elitists they have socially conditioned you to think "abortion". That is designed to use your own religious convictions against you...to serve THEIR interests.

As for taxes...bro...Bush hasn't lowered your taxes. He paid you off with a small tax rebate. In fact your tax shelters have been reduced while the tax shelters for corporate wealthy interests have nearly doubled. This shifts the cost of government to YOU, the middle class working man. The deficits they're running is a political strategy. First it puts us in financial dependency on China. But it also gives them a weapon. Democrats are dedicated to "PayGo" meaning the government pays as it goes, not on credit. The Democrats are committed to a balanced budget. If a Democrat gets elected they have to raise taxes. Why? TO PAY FOR THE REPUBLICAN DEFICITS. They have to get the deficit paid for before they can begin cutting taxes and instituting their platform. This process of cutting the taxes after the deficits are paid typically plays out later in a Democratic administration, this is why you see nice economic results after the deficit is paid. If you don't want the Democrats to raise taxes...don't elect deficit spending Republicans. Remember...the next administration will have to deal with the deficit of the Bush Administration. If it's a Republican administration they'll continue their deficit spending strategy. If they are a Democrat they will raise taxes to pay it off and then cut back with surplus as they position themselves to launch the more robust parts of their platform.

Uh no.

You may be right about some but not me.

I am not an establishment party man. That is one reason I was a state delegate for Patrick J Buchanan a few years back.

On the abortion issue...

When I hear abortion advocates speak I probably react the same way as you would in hearing someone proclaim "the right" to kill their own two year old son....

I have not been duped, I just have a bit of conscience remaining.

[Aquila]

Uh no.

You may be right about some but not me.

I am not an establishment party man. That is one reason I was a state delegate for Patrick J Buchanan a few years back.

On the abortion issue...

When I hear abortion advocates speak I probably react the same way as you would in hearing someone proclaim "the right" to kill their own two year old son....

I have not been duped, I just have a bit of conscience remaining.

Do you really think the Republicans plan on doing anything about abortion? It's just a political strategy. If they addressed abortion they'll loose a wedge issue that keeps many in their camp. They don't plan on doing anything about abortion's legality.

At least the Democrats are honest about keeping it legal and rare. Under Clinton the abortion rate significantly dropped (http://www.newsbatch.com/abor-usabort.html). It's ticked up slightly in some states under Bush, though still down nationwide as a whole.

While I may disagree with the liberals on this issue, at least their honest about where they stand.

[FRINGE_NUTTER]

I have lost confidence in the Republican party and never really had it in the Democratic Party. If you want a purist, vote for Ron Paul (and lose your vote). LOL. It doesn't matter if you vote for a Republican or a Democrat, you get a politician and what is that? A person who is playing politics and gets his or her thrills from power. Either way in this election, we are in a mess.

America has passed the point of no return to ever get the majority to believe in Christian values. Not that the majority ever did.

Psalm 9:17
The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

As a nation in general, are we remembering God or forgetting Him?

[Aquila]

I have lost confidence in the Republican party and never really had it in the Democratic Party. If you want a purist, vote for Ron Paul (and lose your vote). LOL. It doesn't matter if you vote for a Republican or a Democrat, you get a politician and what is that? A person who is playing politics and gets his or her thrills from power. Either way in this election, we are in a mess.

America has passed the point of no return to ever get the majority to believe in Christian values. Not that the majority ever did.

Psalm 9:17
The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

As a nation in general, are we remembering God or forgetting Him?

That's the problem. Government cannot get anyone to believe this message. This is something that must be experienced personally. Government has a dirty job to do and that requires various degrees of compromise and balancing liberties of groups and individuals who are diametrically opposed to eachother. We've thought we could anoint the Republicans to "Christianize" America. Bros...that's the mission of the church. We do it by preaching the gospel. You can't vote people into the Kingdom of God.

I still have faith in America. Everyone is so focused on abortion's legality they miss the really good news. Abortion rates have been lower in the past 10 years than ever before in America's history. That's better than the abortion rates in some countries where abotion is absolutely illegal. Sadly most Ameicans can't relate to American Christianity. Why? Because American Christianity is married to Right Wing Conservative thinking right now. Not everyone agrees with the Right Wingers. If Christianity is considered a Right Wing religion, the average American who is more moderate will reject it. And that's what we're seeing. I know people who house church and refuse to go to an established church. Why? They say it's only for rightwing indoctrination. They'd rather just worship Jesus at home and share the gospel with people one on one. For some of these the issues are fair trade, torture, the environment, poverty relief, hunger relief, anti-war, education, etc. That's why there are so many new books coming out about how Christians need to step up to the plate and address more than just abortion and gay marriage.

The truth is that the Gospel will win. But it's going to happen through preaching and being patient with people. When you mention Bible believers the average American thinks of Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and Fred Phelps. Each of these nutcases have done reparable damage to the cause of Christ through their draconian politicization of Christianity. The Church needs to be a place where Christians of all stripes can feel comfortable. Sometimes I've heard things I was just terrified about. I had a preacher preach over the pulpit about how Obama is a Muslim and won't salute the flag. Bro...that's a bogus email urban legend. Bro, he believed it because it was sent to him by a die hard Republican he trusts and it appeared to agree with the conservative cause. Bro...that REALLY bothers me.

The American people aren't rejecting Christ or the gospel. They are rejecting...us.

[Aquila]

Here's an interesting blurb....

http://www.rightwingwrongbird.com/2006/07/40_questions_ab_9.html

[Hoovie]

Do you really think the Republicans plan on doing anything about abortion? It's just a political strategy. If they addressed abortion they'll loose a wedge issue that keeps many in their camp. They don't plan on doing anything about abortion's legality.

At least the Democrats are honest about keeping it legal and rare. Under Clinton the abortion rate significantly dropped (http://www.newsbatch.com/abor-usabort.html). It's ticked up slightly in some states under Bush, though still down nationwide as a whole.

While I may disagree with the liberals on this issue, at least their honest about where they stand.

:toofunny:toofunny:toofunny

Very funny! So when one admits a fetish for killing he is more honorable!

I don't have many litmus tests for a candidate... but abortion IS one of them. If they are all mouthing campiagn retoric about the sacred "right to choose" I simply won't go to the polls.

Seriously, your point about neither of the parties being committed to a Pro-life policy with teeth is well taken.

[Hoovie]

Huckabee beat McCain 3/1 today in Kansas!

[FRINGE_NUTTER]

Huckabee beat McCain 3/1 today in Kansas!

Here is a link to a website where you can listen to several Huckabee interviews:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/109591

[StMark]

so far huckabee is winning in Loiusiana too.

[LaGirl]

so far huckabee is winning in Loiusiana too.

thanks to my vote!!!! :happydance :happydance :happydance :happydance

[StMark]

thanks to my vote!!!! :happydance :happydance :happydance :happydance

you told me you was a democrat - were you not loyal?

[FRINGE_NUTTER]

so far huckabee is winning in Loiusiana too.

LOUISIANA (Huckabee ahead right now)
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#val=LA

If neither candidate gets 50%, the state rules say that delegates won't be determined now. I think that is the state rule for Louisiana.

WASHINGTON (to close to call right now)
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#val=WA

KANSAS (Huckabee won)
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#KS

NEBRASKA (Republican Primary - May 13)
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#NE

[StMark]

Huckabee wont get the nomination but i do like him

[FRINGE_NUTTER]

Huckabee wont get the nomination but i do like him

I voted for him but he won't be the nominee. Wish he could be.

[LaGirl]

you told me you was a democrat - were you not loyal?

i have NEVER EVER EVER told you that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LaGirl]

I voted for him but he won't be the nominee. Wish he could be.

i wish he would make a strong come back....but very doubtful.

[FRINGE_NUTTER]

i wish he would make a strong come back....but very doubtful.

You are right. He would have to win almost everywhere and that's not going to happen.

[FRINGE_NUTTER]

FOX News just called LA for Huckabee, but he didn't get 50% so delegates are not awarded now...Some special rules in LA.

[StMark]

i have NEVER EVER EVER told you that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Do you remember when you called me and asked me to score out a song for some special event your church was having??? we got into politics and you told me that you was a southern democrat. a lot of southern people are nothing to be ashamed of on the forum

[AmazingGrace]

i have NEVER EVER EVER told you that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Remember this is our friend with the very vivid imagination... I am sure thats what it was... see he doesnt make things up or spread gossip... he just imagines them in his little world they are right... :)

Just messin with you Mark!

[LaGirl]

Do you remember when you called me and asked me to score out a song for some special event your church was having??? we got into politics and you told me that you was a southern democrat. a lot of southern people are nothing to be ashamed of on the forum

i have NEVER told you i was a southern democrat!!!!! you are mistaken!!!!!!

[LaGirl]

Remember this is our friend with the very vivid imagination... I am sure thats what it was... see he doesnt make things up or spread gossip... he just imagines them in his little world they are right... :)

Just messin with you Mark!

if he thinks i am a dem, his imagination is running wild....lol

[AmazingGrace]

if he thinks i am a dem, his imagination is running wild....lol

I know I know LOL... he is just being Mark and tryin to stir the pot some

[Pressing-On]

if he thinks i am a dem, his imagination is running wild....lol

I know I know LOL... he is just being Mark and tryin to stir the pot some

Don't worry, LaGirl. We wrote him out of the picture. No worries! :toofunny

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