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Thad
03-13-2007, 10:43 AM
Political Experts believe he is the only one that can Beat Hillary.
and they believe Hillary will overcome Obama.

as it stands now, Giulioni will be the republican Nominee.

I've been called everything but a child of hell for being a Democrat.
But my Question is, what is the difference between voting for Hillary and Giulioni? They both believe in Gays and abortion. are you aware of that?
the only real difference is fiscal and perhaps their stance on the war?

i sense some hypocricy on the part of republicans

SDG
03-13-2007, 10:44 AM
Political Experts believe he is the only one that can Beat Hillary.
and they believe Hillary will overcome Obama.

as it stands now, Giulioni will be the republican Nominee.

I've been called everything but a child of hell for being a Democrat.
But my Question is, what is the difference between voting for Hillary and Giulioni? They both believe in Gays and abortion. are you aware of that?
the only real difference is fiscal and perhaps their stance on the war?

i sense some hypocricy on the part of republicans

She's a Clinton ... that's why.

Eliseus
03-13-2007, 10:48 AM
Good heavens NO!!!!!

If the choices we get are "Billary Reloaded" or Rudy "Get the Gold, Forget the Bodies" Giuliani then we are really in trouble....

Thad
03-13-2007, 10:50 AM
She's a Clinton ... that's why.

I'm not getting your point Dan

Kutless
03-13-2007, 10:51 AM
I think the fact that G. has been married 3 times will lose a lot support for him.

The extreme left would have a field day with that.

SDG
03-13-2007, 10:52 AM
I think the fact that G. has been married 3 times will lose a lot support for him.

The extreme left would have a field day with that.

I think the fact that Hillary is married but really isn't doesn't help her.

Thad
03-13-2007, 10:53 AM
Good heavens NO!!!!!

If the choices we get are "Billary Reloaded" or Rudy "Get the Gold, Forget the Bodies" Giuliani then we are really in trouble....



the experts are predicting this will be the ticket :


DEMOCRAT TICKET
Hillary for President
Obama for vice


REPUBLICAN
Giulioni for President
Condi rice for vice


By the way, ALL of the above (including both repubs) are Pro abortion.


AND did you hear that Hillary is comparing herself to the JFK of her time ?

Thad
03-13-2007, 10:54 AM
I think the fact that G. has been married 3 times will lose a lot support for him.

The extreme left would have a field day with that.


kutless
the world doesn't care about that anymore. they are all corupt.

SDG
03-13-2007, 10:54 AM
AND did you hear that Hillary is comparing herself to the JFK of her time ?

Both were married but not really ...

Eliseus
03-13-2007, 10:54 AM
I'm voting for Ron Paul, if I vote at all.

Thad
03-13-2007, 10:54 AM
I think the fact that Hillary is married but really isn't doesn't help her.



UH ???? exaplin that one please

Thad
03-13-2007, 10:55 AM
I'm voting for Ron Paul, if I vote at all.

Ron Paul ?

who is that ?

Kutless
03-13-2007, 10:55 AM
I think the fact that Hillary is married but really isn't doesn't help her.Only disagreement here is that from what I hear Mr. Clinton is quite the fund raiser.

tbpew
03-13-2007, 10:56 AM
in your hypothetical, only two choice exist; Hillary or Rudy, I would choose Rudy.

I have more confidence that between these two, he would be more mindful of how all the issues affect a nation rather than just his own political future and ambitions.

SDG
03-13-2007, 10:58 AM
Only disagreement here is that from what I hear Mr. Clinton is quite the fund raiser.

This is true ...:heeheehee

rgcraig
03-13-2007, 10:58 AM
I'm voting for Ron Paul, if I vote at all.

By not voting you are voting.

Thad
03-13-2007, 10:59 AM
in your hypothetical, only two choice exist; Hillary or Rudy, I would choose Rudy.

I have more confidence that between these two, he would be more mindful of how all the issues affect a nation rather than just his own political future and ambitions.

This means you are voting for a Pro gay and Pro abortion rights president

don't forget that

Kutless
03-13-2007, 11:00 AM
kutless
the world doesn't care about that anymore. they are all corupt.Thad I agree with you there but its all a game. The analyst I watched last night was making point about Gully and Newt concerning their marriage capabilities.

He said we gave the Clinton people a hard time with his whole extra-marital activities. If G. gets in ther they will slam him.

tbpew
03-13-2007, 11:00 AM
This means you are voting for a Pro gay and Pro abortion rights president

don't forget that

You are the one who established a condition that has no means to escape the criticism your reply proposes!

Thad
03-13-2007, 11:01 AM
Dan, are you ignoring my Questions ?

renda, who would you vote for ?

SDG
03-13-2007, 11:01 AM
This means you are voting for a Pro gay and Pro abortion rights president

don't forget that

Since when do we know what a politician really believes in??? ... as a former resident of New York ... I saw a man that did the job .... he literally slept 4 hours a day and is responsible for the renaissance of the city ... Hillary for the most part has pranced around doing very little for the state.

rgcraig
03-13-2007, 11:02 AM
Thad,

If those WERE the two choices, what choice do you have? Move to Mexico? It's probably pretty vacant now days.

Chan
03-13-2007, 11:02 AM
Political Experts believe he is the only one that can Beat Hillary.
and they believe Hillary will overcome Obama.

as it stands now, Giulioni will be the republican Nominee.

I've been called everything but a child of hell for being a Democrat.
But my Question is, what is the difference between voting for Hillary and Giulioni? They both believe in Gays and abortion. are you aware of that?
the only real difference is fiscal and perhaps their stance on the war?

i sense some hypocricy on the part of republicansPeople who vote based on who they think is going to win are committing the sin of gambling.

I will not vote for either a Democrat or a Republican since they're really two sides of the same unconstitutional big government coin.

rgcraig
03-13-2007, 11:03 AM
Dan, are you ignoring my Questions ?

renda, who would you vote for ?

Whoever is running against Hillary. Might not like them, but I want to keep her out of office.

Kutless
03-13-2007, 11:03 AM
People who vote based on who they think is going to win are committing the sin of gambling.

I will not vote for either a Democrat or a Republican since they're really two sides of the same unconstitutional big government coin.Chan who are our other choices?

LaVonne
03-13-2007, 11:04 AM
Whoever is running against Hillary. Might not like them, but I want to keep her out of office.

That's how I feel, Renda! I would never vote for Hillary.

SDG
03-13-2007, 11:04 AM
UH ???? exaplin that one please

C'mon Thad ... everyone knows this marriage is one of political convenience ... and shows little fruit of being real ....

Chan
03-13-2007, 11:05 AM
in your hypothetical, only two choice exist; Hillary or Rudy, I would choose Rudy.

I have more confidence that between these two, he would be more mindful of how all the issues affect a nation rather than just his own political future and ambitions.There are other choices. People need to stop believing the lie of the two-party system. Political parties become "viable" when people vote for them.

Kutless
03-13-2007, 11:05 AM
C'mon Thad ... everyone knows this marriage is one of political convenience ... and shows little fruit of being real ....You mean like that Jackson/Presley marriage?

Chan
03-13-2007, 11:06 AM
Chan who are our other choices?Any of the several other political parties in this country.

SDG
03-13-2007, 11:06 AM
For Thad ...

Since when do we know what a politician really believes in??? ... as a former resident of New York ... I saw a man that did the job .... he literally slept 4 hours a day and is responsible for the renaissance of the city ... Hillary for the most part has pranced around doing very little for the state.

Kutless
03-13-2007, 11:07 AM
Any of the several other political parties in this country.It was a serious question. Can you name them and maybe who they have running?

The Green Party? Is there one called the Constitution Party? I reqally don't know.

I'm one of them.

Thad
03-13-2007, 11:08 AM
You are the one who established a condition that has no means to escape the criticism your reply proposes!

not criticizing you just stating as it stands.
I guess we could vote some 3rd party unknown
but that's a waste of time

Thad
03-13-2007, 11:09 AM
Thad,

If those WERE the two choices, what choice do you have? Move to Mexico? It's probably pretty vacant now days.


I'm voting for Hillary.


I told you that a long time ago renda

SDG
03-13-2007, 11:09 AM
I'm voting for Hillary.


I told you that a long time ago renda

I dont think she will be the candidate, Thad ...

Thad
03-13-2007, 11:10 AM
C'mon Thad ... everyone knows this marriage is one of political convenience ... and shows little fruit of being real ....

It could be. wouldn't be too surprising. there are even some of those in the ministry :bliss

what title will Billy take on " first lady "? :heeheehee

Chan
03-13-2007, 11:10 AM
It was a serious question. Can you name them and maybe who they have running?

The Green Party? Is there one called the Constitution Party? I reqally don't know.

I'm one of them.
Yes, I know it was a serious question. I gave you a serious answer. Now, here's one source that has a list but please note that not every party on the list is a national party: some of the parties are state parties.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States

Here's another source:

http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-political-parties-in-the-united-states

Thad
03-13-2007, 11:12 AM
I dont think she will be the candidate, Thad ...

O yea, she is determined

I believe she will

rgcraig
03-13-2007, 11:12 AM
I'm voting for Hillary.


I told you that a long time ago rendaYOU ARE NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LaVonne
03-13-2007, 11:12 AM
I'm voting for Hillary.


I told you that a long time ago renda

You're crazy Thad! Get your head checked!!!

SDG
03-13-2007, 11:12 AM
O yea, she is determined

I believe she will

Don't set yourself up .... for a :sad :sad :sad :sad

rgcraig
03-13-2007, 11:12 AM
O yea, she is determined

I believe she willI don't believe she will either.

Thad
03-13-2007, 11:13 AM
YOU ARE NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


that wasn't very polite for an Admin.

LaVonne
03-13-2007, 11:13 AM
that wasn't very polite for an Admin.

Go Renda!:highfive

SDG
03-13-2007, 11:13 AM
that wasn't very polite for an Admin.

I would concur.

Thad
03-13-2007, 11:14 AM
You're crazy Thad! Get your head checked!!!


we're suppose to be friends carey ?

Digging4Truth
03-13-2007, 11:14 AM
I'm voting for Ron Paul, if I vote at all.

Indeed... the only real choice out there.

Ron Paul... One of Capital Hills few remaining patriots... and maybe the last one.

LaVonne
03-13-2007, 11:15 AM
we're suppose to be friends carey ?

We are friends!

I just can't believe you'd vote for a communist...the lady is whacked out!!

Chan
03-13-2007, 11:15 AM
not criticizing you just stating as it stands.
I guess we could vote some 3rd party unknown
but that's a waste of timeThe real waste is voting for either Republicans or Democrats because someone ridiculously thinks that those are your only two choices. Third parties become viable when people vote for them.

rgcraig
03-13-2007, 11:16 AM
that wasn't very polite for an Admin.

That was Renda the poster.

Thad
03-13-2007, 11:16 AM
Indeed... the only real choice out there.

Ron Paul... One of Capital Hills few remaining patriots... and maybe the last one.

I'd like to hear more about this Ron Paul

is he libertarian /?

Bryan
03-13-2007, 11:17 AM
I'd vote for Edwards...

Digging4Truth
03-13-2007, 11:18 AM
I'd like to hear more about this Ron Paul

is he libertarian /?

He is Republican.

http://www.house.gov/paul/

Thad
03-13-2007, 11:18 AM
We are friends!

I just can't believe you'd vote for a communist...the lady is whacked out!!


I'm a Traditionalist carey. generational curse I guess :killinme

one good thing she will push for better health care for all peoples

Chan
03-13-2007, 11:18 AM
He is Republican.

http://www.house.gov/paul/ He's registered Republican but I think he's a Republican in name only.

Thad
03-13-2007, 11:19 AM
He is Republican.

http://www.house.gov/paul/


there can't be 2 Republican nomiees can there ?
as far as i know there has always only been one

LaVonne
03-13-2007, 11:19 AM
I'm a Traditionalist carey. generational curse I guess :killinme

one good thing she will push for better health care for all peoples

I am in no way mad at you, I just don't agree with you...just for the record!

There is no way I could vote for that woman in good conscience.

rgcraig
03-13-2007, 11:20 AM
I'm a Traditionalist carey. generational curse I guess :killinme

one good thing she will push for better health care for all peoples
You really believe that?

She's already got you talking communist....lol!

SDG
03-13-2007, 11:21 AM
That was Renda the poster.

I'm going to report you then ....:tease :tease :tease :tease :tease :killinme :killinme

Bryan
03-13-2007, 11:21 AM
You really believe that?
Noway!

rgcraig
03-13-2007, 11:22 AM
I'm going to report you then ....:tease :tease :tease :tease :tease :killinme :killinme
That's fair and you need to feel free to report admins if ever needed too.

Thad
03-13-2007, 11:23 AM
You really believe that?



about the health care ?
Yes. are you not aware that one of her main ambitions
is national health care? would you not agree that the
cost of medicine is out of reach for many people ?

Margies3
03-13-2007, 11:23 AM
in your hypothetical, only two choice exist; Hillary or Rudy, I would choose Rudy.

I have more confidence that between these two, he would be more mindful of how all the issues affect a nation rather than just his own political future and ambitions.

Whoever is running against Hillary. Might not like them, but I want to keep her out of office.

C'mon Thad ... everyone knows this marriage is one of political convenience ... and shows little fruit of being real ....

My thoughts exactly. Frankly, I have a very hard time voting for someone like Hilary. Her husband is right out there - in her face - with all of the other women he's 'been with'. And yet she doesn't have the guts to kick his sorry self out of her life?? Come one!! And you want her running our country? What's she going to do when she needs to have enough backbone to stand up to someone like Osama? She's gonna tuck her tale, cower down and roll over and play dead.

Digging4Truth
03-13-2007, 11:24 AM
there can't be 2 Republican nomiees can there ?
as far as i know there has always only been one

He has run for president before under the Libertarian party. He is a republican now and has announced an exploratory committee to run for the presidency. I am not positive who he will run under.

The Republican presidential candidate is not yet decided.

I am not sure who he intends to run under but he is still a republican in the house.

He is a Doctor (PHD) who has been in the house for several decades. He is known on the floor as "Dr. No" because of his consistent votes against raising of taxes.

SDG
03-13-2007, 11:24 AM
about the health care ?
Yes. are you not aware that one of her main ambitions
is national health care? would you not agree that the
cost of medicine is out of reach for many people ?

She had her chance Thad .. her task force failed miserably in Clinton I

Digging4Truth
03-13-2007, 11:25 AM
2008 Presidential Campaign

On 11 January 2007, Paul filed papers to form an exploratory committee for the 2008 presidential race.[8][9] This will increase his fund raising opportunities until his presumed eventual announcement.

The Associated Press reports:

Kent Snyder, the chairman of Paul’s exploratory committee and a former staffer on Paul’s Libertarian campaign, said the congressman knows he’s a long shot.

Snyder said Paul is running to win, not just to make a point or to try to ensure that his issues are addressed. Paul is expected to formally announce his bid in the next week or two, Snyder said. Snyder said Paul and his supporters are not intimidated by the presence of nationally known and better-financed candidates, such as Sen. John McCain of Arizona or former Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts.

“This is going to be a grassroots American campaign,” he said. “For us, it’s either going to happen at the grassroots level or it’s not.”[10]

On 22 January 2007, Reason Magazine Senior Editor Brian Doherty interviewed Paul about his presidential bid.[11]When asked about what issues he would emphasize, Paul responded:

Everything I’ve talked about for 20 years! I think the biggest thing for Republican primary voters is that most Republicans are turned off right now. They’ve had a beating and are reassessing their values. They have to decide what they believe in. The Republican Party has become about big government conservatism, and Republicans need to hear the message they used to hear: that conservatives are supposed to be for small government.

Paul also indicated that his grassroots campaign will attempt to take full advantage of the Internet.

NewsMax.com reported in January 2007 that many libertarians and conservatives may be turning towards Paul because they are frustrated by their early option in the 2008 front-runners.[12]

On 20 February 2007 Paul's exploratory committee posted a formal video of him explaining his reason for running on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPlPT4bncq8

At the 2007 New Hampshire Liberty Forum, Ron Paul received the endorsement of the 2004 Libertarian Party presidential candidate Michael Badnarik.

He formally declared his candidacy 12 March 2007 as a guest on Washington Journal on C-SPAN.[14]

Books by Ron Paul

* Challenge to Liberty
* The Case for Gold. ISBN 0-932790-31-3.
* A Republic, If You Can Keep It
* Mises and Austrian Economics: A Personal View. Auburn, AL: Ludwig von Mises Institute, 1984.

rgcraig
03-13-2007, 11:27 AM
about the health care ?
Yes. are you not aware that one of her main ambitions
is national health care? would you not agree that the
cost of medicine is out of reach for many people ?
Yes, but just because the need is there and she "says" she is going to fix it doesn't mean she can or will. As Daniel mentioned, she's already tried and failed!

Digging4Truth
03-13-2007, 11:28 AM
Ron Paul's PEC Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPlPT4bncq8

Ron Paul CNN Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF37-9OGblw

rgcraig
03-13-2007, 11:49 AM
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/showpost.php?p=38304&postcount=12

Digging4Truth
03-13-2007, 11:50 AM
Several points Ron Paul is running on...

He wants to physically secure our borders & coast lines
Enforce Visa rules
No Amnesty
No welfare for illegal aliens
End the birthright citizenship
pass true immigration reform

Ferd
03-13-2007, 11:52 AM
I'm voting for Hillary.


I told you that a long time ago renda

you do realize that this will prevent you from entering heaven?

rgcraig
03-13-2007, 11:53 AM
you do realize that this will prevent you from entering heaven?:heeheehee

Ferd
03-13-2007, 11:53 AM
about the health care ?
Yes. are you not aware that one of her main ambitions
is national health care? would you not agree that the
cost of medicine is out of reach for many people ?


nationalized health care is no solution.

Starbucks
03-13-2007, 11:56 AM
the experts are predicting this will be the ticket :


DEMOCRAT TICKET
Hillary for President
Obama for vice


REPUBLICAN
Giulioni for President
Condi rice for vice


By the way, ALL of the above (including both repubs) are Pro abortion.


AND did you hear that Hillary is comparing herself to the JFK of her time ?

How to vote for either party.... Here's the answer vote for the GREEN party! :coffee2

Cheers

Esther
03-13-2007, 12:54 PM
about the health care ?
Yes. are you not aware that one of her main ambitions
is national health care? would you not agree that the
cost of medicine is out of reach for many people ?

National health care is NOT the answer, and neither is Hillary.

Ferd
03-13-2007, 01:04 PM
socialism is a disease not a solution

Pressing-On
03-13-2007, 01:08 PM
Thad,
Socialized medicine is not the answer.

A Health Savings Account is the answer. What is does:


Keeps transactions between doctor and patient, in which, it keeps the patient in control of how the money is spent.

Health savings accounts will encourage individuals to shop for health plans that best fit their needs and to make cost-conscious decisions about how they spend their own health dollars as opposed to a third party's money.

HSA represents the single most significant transformation that can be made in saving the country from skyrocketing health costs and steadily increasing calls for taxpayers to finance more and more of the health care system through higher taxes.


Coupled with transparency in costs, as well as, cost comparison information it is the better way.

As to Rudy Giuliani:

In any other presidential election year, a socially moderate Republican winning the party's nomination would have been unthinkable to many GOP strategists. But, they say, 2008 is different. Not only is there no heir apparent to President Bush, it's also the first contested Republican primary since the terrorist attacks and national security is the dominant issue.

Conservatives who have aligned themselves with Giuliani say that's a primary reason they're comfortable backing him.


I would vote for Newt Gingrich or anyone that would not leave the country saddled with Hillary. Her college dissertation was written in praise of a Communist - Antonio Gramsci. That is very telling, IMO.

Digging4Truth
03-13-2007, 01:11 PM
Thad,
Socialized medicine is not the answer.

A Health Savings Account is the answer. What is does:


Keeps transactions between doctor and patient, in which, it keeps the patient in control of how the money is spent.

Health savings accounts will encourage individuals to shop for health plans that best fit their needs and to make cost-conscious decisions about how they spend their own health dollars as opposed to a third party's money.

HSA represents the single most significant transformation that can be made in saving the country from skyrocketing health costs and steadily increasing calls for taxpayers to finance more and more of the health care system through higher taxes.


Coupled with transparency in costs, as well as, cost comparison information it is the better way.

As to Rudy Giuliani:

In any other presidential election year, a socially moderate Republican winning the party's nomination would have been unthinkable to many GOP strategists. But, they say, 2008 is different. Not only is there no heir apparent to President Bush, it's also the first contested Republican primary since the terrorist attacks and national security is the dominant issue.

Conservatives who have aligned themselves with Giuliani say that's a primary reason they're comfortable backing him.


I would vote for Newt Gingrich or anyone that would not leave the country saddled with Hillary. Her college dissertation was written in praise of a Communist - Antonio Gramsci. That is very telling, IMO.

PO... not so sure if HSA is THE answer but HSA is definitely a good thing.

I have an HSA account and I think it is one of the best moves that has been made in a long time.

Pressing-On
03-13-2007, 01:13 PM
PO... not so sure if HSA is THE answer but HSA is definitely a good thing.

I have an HSA account and I think it is one of the best moves that has been made in a long time.
I agree Digging. It's the best move thus far. Tax free as it should be.

Esther
03-13-2007, 01:14 PM
Thad,
Socialized medicine is not the answer.

A Health Savings Account is the answer. What is does:


Keeps transactions between doctor and patient, in which, it keeps the patient in control of how the money is spent.

Health savings accounts will encourage individuals to shop for health plans that best fit their needs and to make cost-conscious decisions about how they spend their own health dollars as opposed to a third party's money.

HSA represents the single most significant transformation that can be made in saving the country from skyrocketing health costs and steadily increasing calls for taxpayers to finance more and more of the health care system through higher taxes.


Coupled with transparency in costs, as well as, cost comparison information it is the better way.

As to Rudy Giuliani:

In any other presidential election year, a socially moderate Republican winning the party's nomination would have been unthinkable to many GOP strategists. But, they say, 2008 is different. Not only is there no heir apparent to President Bush, it's also the first contested Republican primary since the terrorist attacks and national security is the dominant issue.

Conservatives who have aligned themselves with Giuliani say that's a primary reason they're comfortable backing him.


I would vote for Newt Gingrich or anyone that would not leave the country saddled with Hillary. Her college dissertation was written in praise of a Communist - Antonio Gramsci. That is very telling, IMO.

Health Care definitely needs help.

Medical cost are ridiculous at best.

For true believers we should be trusting God but like most everyone else you find me at the doctors.

Digging4Truth
03-13-2007, 01:44 PM
Brief Overview of Congressman Paul’s Record
He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.

He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.

He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress.

Neck
03-13-2007, 01:57 PM
Political Experts believe he is the only one that can Beat Hillary.
and they believe Hillary will overcome Obama.

as it stands now, Giulioni will be the republican Nominee.

I've been called everything but a child of hell for being a Democrat.
But my Question is, what is the difference between voting for Hillary and Giulioni? They both believe in Gays and abortion. are you aware of that?
the only real difference is fiscal and perhaps their stance on the war?

i sense some hypocricy on the part of republicans

I will be one to say yes.

But I would feel it my Christian responsibility to notify Rudy before I vote via a letter.

That I disagree with his stance on Choice.

If you do vote and they are the only 2 candidates then you are voting choice without voting as well.

If you voted for Buch the second time around and he sent the troops to Iraq and knowing more would die.

Would that also be sending folks to their death?

Praxeas
03-13-2007, 02:02 PM
I think the fact that Hillary is married but really isn't doesn't help her.
Hey, maybe America needs a Hillary "stand by your cheatin man" woman for a president? Or is the only reason she stood by her man was cuz it would get her more power? Yikes!

SoCaliUPC
03-13-2007, 02:24 PM
Thad....Waaaay too early to call who it is going to be. The Republican primary has not started, but I can not say that Rudy is a shoo in. I am really interested to see McCain and Romney and what they offer and bring to the table.

Everything I am reading and hearing about the democrats is that Hillary is losing support to Barak.

However, I have a feeling the next President will be a moderate.

Pressing-On
03-13-2007, 02:30 PM
Thad....Waaaay too early to call who it is going to be. The Republican primary has not started, but I can not say that Rudy is a shoo in. I am really interested to see McCain and Romney and what they offer and bring to the table.

Everything I am reading and hearing about the democrats is that Hillary is losing support to Barak.

However, I have a feeling the next President will be a moderate.

Correction: His name is B. Hussein O'Bama. :D

COOPER
03-13-2007, 02:39 PM
Political Experts believe he is the only one that can Beat Hillary.
and they believe Hillary will overcome Obama.

as it stands now, Giulioni will be the republican Nominee.

I've been called everything but a child of hell for being a Democrat.
But my Question is, what is the difference between voting for Hillary and Giulioni? They both believe in Gays and abortion. are you aware of that?
the only real difference is fiscal and perhaps their stance on the war?

i sense some hypocricy on the part of republicans
Giulioni, he has the mob for back up.

Chan
03-13-2007, 02:54 PM
I will be one to say yes.

But I would feel it my Christian responsibility to notify Rudy before I vote via a letter.

That I disagree with his stance on Choice.

If you do vote and they are the only 2 candidates then you are voting choice without voting as well.

If you voted for Buch the second time around and he sent the troops to Iraq and knowing more would die.

Would that also be sending folks to their death?There are other choices. You don't have to settle for either a Democrat or a Republican.

Ferd
03-13-2007, 02:59 PM
Brief Overview of Congressman Paul’s Record
He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.

He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.

He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress.

you left one out. he will never be elected president.

Eliseus
03-13-2007, 03:03 PM
"He will never be elected PResident"...


... thanks to Republicans like Ferd...

Digging4Truth
03-13-2007, 03:05 PM
you left one out. he will never be elected president.

That is because the things I posted were facts.

What you suggested is opinion.

From your post I have to assume that you are against Ron Paul...

Could you share the reasons why?

Chan
03-13-2007, 03:10 PM
Political Experts believe he is the only one that can Beat Hillary.
and they believe Hillary will overcome Obama.

as it stands now, Giulioni will be the republican Nominee.

I've been called everything but a child of hell for being a Democrat.
But my Question is, what is the difference between voting for Hillary and Giulioni? They both believe in Gays and abortion. are you aware of that?
the only real difference is fiscal and perhaps their stance on the war?

i sense some hypocricy on the part of republicansWho is Mayor Gulioni? I've heard of Mayor Giuliani (former mayor of New York City) but not Mayor Gulioni.

Pressing-On
03-13-2007, 03:13 PM
Who is Mayor Gulioni? I've heard of Mayor Giuliani (former mayor of New York City) but not Mayor Gulioni.
Chancellor,
You are so "Bare Bones"! LOL!

South of I 90
03-13-2007, 03:33 PM
socialism is a disease not a solution

Socialism is biblical. :tiphat

BoredOutOfMyMind
03-13-2007, 04:23 PM
Political Experts believe he is the only one that can Beat Hillary.
and they believe Hillary will overcome Obama.

as it stands now, Giulioni will be the republican Nominee.

I've been called everything but a child of hell for being a Democrat.
But my Question is, what is the difference between voting for Hillary and Giulioni? They both believe in Gays and abortion. are you aware of that?
the only real difference is fiscal and perhaps their stance on the war?

i sense some hypocricy on the part of republicans

:bored

Praxeas
03-13-2007, 04:40 PM
Chancellor,
You are so "Bare Bones"! LOL!
Somebody needs to do it.....

Praxeas
03-13-2007, 04:41 PM
Socialism is biblical. :tiphat
Political or religious?

South of I 90
03-13-2007, 05:16 PM
Political or religious?

Apostolic

Thad
03-14-2007, 05:11 AM
Did you hear that Newt Grngrich may Run?
He is under a lot of pressure to enter the race.
He has until november I believe .

Ferd
03-14-2007, 09:04 AM
Socialism is biblical. :tiphat

no it is not. The bible is not a blueprint for governemnt. the bible is a blueprint for YOUR personal life. the above is scripture abuse!

Chan
03-14-2007, 09:14 AM
no it is not. The bible is not a blueprint for governemnt. the bible is a blueprint for YOUR personal life. the above is scripture abuse!There are only two biblical forms of government: 1) the one God established (a theocracy) when He established a national covenant with Israel in the wilderness; and 2) the one that will be established globally (a theocracy) when Jesus returns to earth to reign for a thousand years.

Ferd
03-14-2007, 09:17 AM
There are only two biblical forms of government: 1) the one God established (a theocracy) when He established a national covenant with Israel in the wilderness; and 2) the one that will be established globally (a theocracy) when Jesus returns to earth to reign for a thousand years.

right. all others are failures. especially the cancer that is socialism.

Tina
03-14-2007, 04:50 PM
I'm praying for better choices to step into the race before election time... :D