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Jehoram
02-21-2008, 01:38 PM
Do you believe there are aliens?

Are we alone?

What really happened down at Roswell?

SDG
02-21-2008, 01:42 PM
If there are does it negate the Word?

RandyWayne
02-21-2008, 01:42 PM
The crash at Roswell was a weather balloon.

But I DO believe there are other, possibly many, alien civilizations out there.

Mercy
02-21-2008, 01:43 PM
I cant remember if it was this site or another one I read from time to time, but someone suggested that the "weird human-ish looking" aliens that we always see pictures of (from Roswell) are failed cloning attempts (humans without souls). I thought that as an interesting take on it...

Jehoram
02-21-2008, 01:45 PM
If there are does it negate the Word?

I dunno.

Does it?:kickcan

SDG
02-21-2008, 01:54 PM
I dunno.

Does it?:kickcan

I don't think so.

Digging4Truth
02-21-2008, 01:54 PM
I don't know anything about Roswell. I wasn't there.

But, to me, it seems a little audacious for us to think that God would create such a vast universe with so many, many, many galaxies flung to the far reaches of space and only create humanity on one small planet in one small galaxy in all of the vastness of space.

And then... on top of that... that we would think that in the everlasting expanse of years of God's existence that only some 6,000 years ago he suddenly thought "HEY... I know... I'll create humanity".

No one can say for sure but using the reasoning of this mind he gave me it would seem that there is at least a fair chance (If not a REALLY good one) that God has, is and will continue to do similar works as he has done here on earth in other places.

Elizabeth
02-21-2008, 01:55 PM
Do you believe there are aliens?

Are we alone?

What really happened down at Roswell?

I definitely believe in ALIENS-- ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SDG
02-21-2008, 01:56 PM
I definitely believe in ALIENS-- ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There are legal ones too ... go figure.

Elizabeth
02-21-2008, 01:56 PM
But I love everybody....:friend

:D

ChristopherHall
02-21-2008, 02:27 PM
Do you believe there are aliens?

Are we alone?

What really happened down at Roswell?

I personally don’t believe in “alien” beings from other planets.

In my opinion they’re spiritual delusions projected upon the mind by demonic beings. I’m confident that if you rebuked one in the name of Jesus it would vanish like a bad dream. In ancient legends “spirits” would travel the sky in ships of light, abduct people, give them shamanistic powers. Today they appear to be “space brothers” with a message that contradicts the gospel, they give people psychic powers, etc. It seems like the same ol’ girl different dress.

That’s just my opinion.

But if I were to encounter one and it was real…I’d baptize the little green dude in Jesus name.

Digging4Truth
02-21-2008, 02:31 PM
I personally don’t believe in “alien” beings from other planets.

In my opinion they’re spiritual delusions projected upon the mind by demonic beings. I’m confident that if you rebuked one in the name of Jesus it would vanish like a bad dream. In ancient legends “spirits” would travel the sky in ships of light, abduct people, give them shamanistic powers. Today they appear to be “space brothers” with a message that contradicts the gospel, they give people psychic powers, etc. It seems like the same ol’ girl different dress.

That’s just my opinion.

But if I were to encounter one and it was real…I’d baptize the little green dude in Jesus name.

Well everybody knows there are no little green men.

They are GRAY!!!! With big heads & big eyes & little skinny legs & arms.

:)

Jehoram
02-21-2008, 02:32 PM
[QUOTE=ChristopherHall;397024]I personally don’t believe in “alien” beings from other planets.

In my opinion they’re spiritual delusions projected upon the mind by demonic beings. I’m confident that if you rebuked one in the name of Jesus it would vanish like a bad dream. In ancient legends “spirits” would travel the sky in ships of light, abduct people, give them shamanistic powers. Today they appear to be “space brothers” with a message that contradicts the gospel, they give people psychic powers, etc. It seems like the same ol’ girl different dress.

That’s just my opinion.

But if I were to encounter one and it was real…I’d baptize the little green dude in Jesus name.


:ursofunny:ursofunny

But would that baptism be regenerative if he weren't even human?

MusicMaster
02-21-2008, 02:55 PM
I personally don’t believe in “alien” beings from other planets.

In my opinion they’re spiritual delusions projected upon the mind by demonic beings. I’m confident that if you rebuked one in the name of Jesus it would vanish like a bad dream. In ancient legends “spirits” would travel the sky in ships of light, abduct people, give them shamanistic powers. Today they appear to be “space brothers” with a message that contradicts the gospel, they give people psychic powers, etc. It seems like the same ol’ girl different dress.

That’s just my opinion.

But if I were to encounter one and it was real…I’d baptize the little green dude in Jesus name.

I guess you're entitled to your opinion, but dude that was just a little strange. Are you sure you haven't been abducted by aliens?

Probably not, I've probably just been watching too much SCI-FI TV. :tvhappy

revshoney
02-21-2008, 02:57 PM
I definitely believe in ALIENS-- ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOOD ONE........:ursofunny

I do not believe that there are aliens and I do not believe that we ever landed on the moon..... IMO

BrotherEastman
02-21-2008, 03:12 PM
Do you believe there are aliens?

Are we alone?

What really happened down at Roswell?
My wife is an alien from Canada. She ain't never been to Roswell. LOL!

BrotherEastman
02-21-2008, 03:16 PM
But I love everybody....:friend

:D
uh huh, nice cover. LOL!

Praxeas
02-21-2008, 03:20 PM
Do you believe there are aliens?

Are we alone?

What really happened down at Roswell?
It was really a Coyote in his van full of Mexicans :bliss:bliss:bliss

BrotherEastman
02-21-2008, 03:30 PM
It was really a Coyote in his van full of Mexicans :bliss:bliss:bliss
Oh Thats wrong Prax! LOL!:ursofunny

RevDWW
02-21-2008, 03:34 PM
Check out the word "watchers" in the bible. Reread Ezekiel's wheel in the middle of a wheel.

There are creatures/beings from other dimensions that come to our planet and interact with us humans.




















Where else would angels comes from?

RandyWayne
02-21-2008, 03:45 PM
Aliens could also be from the future!

http://hacked.free-bsd.org/funstuff/pics/Terminator_3581.jpg

A common theory is that the most likely intelligence "out there" is actually machine in nature..... Starting with a biological creature who created these machines, which in turn rebelled and took over.

NW Pastor
02-21-2008, 05:32 PM
I personally don’t believe in “alien” beings from other planets.

In my opinion they’re spiritual delusions projected upon the mind by demonic beings. I’m confident that if you rebuked one in the name of Jesus it would vanish like a bad dream. In ancient legends “spirits” would travel the sky in ships of light, abduct people, give them shamanistic powers. Today they appear to be “space brothers” with a message that contradicts the gospel, they give people psychic powers, etc. It seems like the same ol’ girl different dress.

That’s just my opinion.

But if I were to encounter one and it was real…I’d baptize the little green dude in Jesus name.

:ursofunny
There is much we don't know. What we do know, however, is that if there are "aliens" they will one day bow at the feet of Jesus, and confess that he is Lord.

Then we can form an Intergalactic Federation of Apostolics (IFA).

Pressing-On
02-21-2008, 05:35 PM
Sometimes my finger lights up and I don't know why!

:reaction

RandyWayne
02-21-2008, 05:38 PM
I have to also add that I DO NOT believe that aliens have visited us. There could be a very good reason that thousands and millions of light years separate us from any other civilization, and that is to remove any possibility of our cultures or species interacting.

CC1
02-21-2008, 05:43 PM
Do you believe there are aliens?

Are we alone?

What really happened down at Roswell?

Anybody who has ever seen more than 30 seconds of Rosie O'Donnell on television has to believe in aliens. There is no way she is human.:gaga

chseeads
02-21-2008, 05:56 PM
Do you believe there are aliens?

Are we alone?

What really happened down at Roswell?

I believe there are aliens, and that they post on, or used to in some cases, this forum. :)


Other than that, no I don't think there are. I think we're all she wrote.

CC1
02-21-2008, 06:03 PM
If you have ever been to a Planetarium or seen the beginning ofthe movie "Contact" I think once you realize just how small the earth and our solar system is in the Universe you realize it would be foolish to think that earth is the only planet with living creatures that God created.

staysharp
02-21-2008, 06:04 PM
Jesus was an alien from outer space. He said ' I am not of this world. I am from above, you are from below. He said His kingdom was not of this world.

Yes, there is life in outer space, it's called the spirit world. As to other humans on another planet in another solar system? Sure, if God made us, don't you think he made others? Why would he just limit his power to one planet?

chseeads
02-21-2008, 06:06 PM
Why is that foolish?

I don't think you can Biblically resolve that.

OneAccord
02-21-2008, 06:33 PM
Yes, there are "aliens". I was one. I have proof:

Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

But seriously, folks:

Of the millions of stars in the universe, being orbited by an unknown number of planets, I believe the chances of "alien" life is very real. What form that life takes is anyones guess, but yes, I do believe in the possibilty that life exists elsewhere. Have they visited earth? No. I think most of the "sightings" are either active imaginations, optical allusions, explainable objects (planes, weather balloons", etc.). Spirits? I think not.

As a side note: Remember on Star Trek when they would travel to distant worlds and refer to the beings they encountered as "aliens"? I wonder why it never occurred to Captain Kirk and the crew of the USS Enterprise that is was they, themselves, who were the "aliens".

RandyWayne
02-21-2008, 06:36 PM
Yes, there are "aliens". I was one. I have proof:

Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

But seriously, folks:

Of the millions of stars in the universe, being orbited by an unknown number of planets, I believe the chances of "alien" life is very real. What form that life takes is anyones guess, but yes, I do believe in the possibilty that life exists elsewhere. Have they visited earth? No. I think most of the "sightings" are either active imaginations, optical allusions, explainable objects (planes, weather balloons", etc.). Spirits? I think not.

As a side note: Remember on Star Trek when they would travel to distant worlds and refer to the beings they encountered as "aliens"? I wonder why it never occurred to Captain Kirk and the crew of the USS Enterprise that is was they, themselves, who were the "aliens".

<---humming the "beautiful alien woman" theme, as "she" tries to seduce Kirk.

OneAccord
02-21-2008, 06:45 PM
Huh... not to say that I'm admitting to ever watching Star Trek. Just a mere observation.

:tvhappy "Beam me up Scotty"

Star Trek trivia time! Captain James T. Kirk of the USS Enterprize NEVER uttered the words "Beam me up, Scotty"

RandyWayne
02-21-2008, 06:47 PM
But he DID utter "Thats enough you two!" -to a feuding Spock and McCoy.

He also said "Bones! ....Have you.... lost.... your mind?"

ChristopherHall
02-21-2008, 07:01 PM
I personally don’t believe in “alien” beings from other planets.

In my opinion they’re spiritual delusions projected upon the mind by demonic beings. I’m confident that if you rebuked one in the name of Jesus it would vanish like a bad dream. In ancient legends “spirits” would travel the sky in ships of light, abduct people, give them shamanistic powers. Today they appear to be “space brothers” with a message that contradicts the gospel, they give people psychic powers, etc. It seems like the same ol’ girl different dress.

That’s just my opinion.

But if I were to encounter one and it was real…I’d baptize the little green dude in Jesus name.

:ursofunny
There is much we don't know. What we do know, however, is that if there are "aliens" they will one day bow at the feet of Jesus, and confess that he is Lord.

Then we can form an Intergalactic Federation of Apostolics (IFA).

IFA! I love it. LOL

Here's my question....if these aliens are studying us, why do they always abduct some hairy hillbilly named Earl? I mean if you were studying cattle would you pick the goofy, buck-toothed one standing next to the electric fence?:hmmm

OneAccord
02-21-2008, 07:05 PM
I have worked with cows. I have milked cows, I have bred cows. I have birthed cows, I've medicated cows and I have buried cows. I even rode a cow. I've seen smart cows, and, yes, I have seen goofy cows. In all my cowboy years, however, I have never seen a bucked tooth cow. Bucked toothed cows do not exist.

ChristopherHall
02-21-2008, 07:30 PM
I have worked with cows. I have milked cows, I have bred cows. I have birthed cows, I've medicated cows and I have buried cows. I even rode a cow. I've seen smart cows, and, yes, I have seen goofy cows. In all my cowboy years, however, I have never seen a bucked tooth cow. Bucked toothed cows do not exist.

Ah, but do aliens? lol

Arphaxad
02-21-2008, 08:05 PM
I don't know anything about Roswell. I wasn't there.

But, to me, it seems a little audacious for us to think that God would create such a vast universe with so many, many, many galaxies flung to the far reaches of space and only create humanity on one small planet in one small galaxy in all of the vastness of space.

And then... on top of that... that we would think that in the everlasting expanse of years of God's existence that only some 6,000 years ago he suddenly thought "HEY... I know... I'll create humanity".

No one can say for sure but using the reasoning of this mind he gave me it would seem that there is at least a fair chance (If not a REALLY good one) that God has, is and will continue to do similar works as he has done here on earth in other places.

originally God created man to live forever in our human bodies. I think that there are planets out there that can sustain human life. What's a million or billion years in a rocket compared to forever? aaahhh, we'll find out soon enough.


ARPH :doggyrun

ManOfWord
02-21-2008, 08:13 PM
Yes, I do believe in aliens. I prove it to myself every time I look in the mirror when I get up in the morning! :D

Lafon
02-21-2008, 08:30 PM
No, I do NOT believe that there are aliens (living entities) within the universe we live in, or any other universe for that matter! Either mankind (you and I) are God's "greatest" creation, or we are nothing. Although I am well aware of the fact that there are some (hopefully not many) who embrace a belief in some type of life other than mankind present somewhere else within the "universe of universes," however as for me, either God considers me to be the "apple of His eye," or I am nothing more than a mere piece of clay.

Where in the Bible is it to be found that God created other life-forms on some other planet in the vastness of universe? If this were true, then would it not represent deception on His part in concealing such important information from mankind? If it were true that God created some type of living creatures on other planets, then rest assured they were NOT created "in his image," for ONLY mankind bears this unique resemblance to the One who created ALL things!

Michael The Disciple
02-21-2008, 10:49 PM
Angels and demons inhabit the Universe. They are what we would call "aliens".

Some day satan is going to COME DOWN to earth visibly.

7: And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8: And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9: And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10: And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11: And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12: Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Rev. 12:7-12

One day many aliens will come to the Earth. They will mightily deceive men.

OneAccord
02-21-2008, 11:26 PM
No, I do NOT believe that there are aliens (living entities) within the universe we live in, or any other universe for that matter! Either mankind (you and I) are God's "greatest" creation, or we are nothing. Although I am well aware of the fact that there are some (hopefully not many) who embrace a belief in some type of life other than mankind present somewhere else within the "universe of universes," however as for me, either God considers me to be the "apple of His eye," or I am nothing more than a mere piece of clay.

Where in the Bible is it to be found that God created other life-forms on some other planet in the vastness of universe? If this were true, then would it not represent deception on His part in concealing such important information from mankind? If it were true that God created some type of living creatures on other planets, then rest assured they were NOT created "in his image," for ONLY mankind bears this unique resemblance to the One who created ALL things!

Oh, come on, now. Because God didn't tell us there is life anywhere else in the universe, than there is no possibility that it exists? Following that logic then, America, Canada and Mexico do not exist, because there is no biblical record for the existence of a continent named North America. Or South America for that matter.

Israel existed because it is mentioned in the Bible. Egypt as well. The "important information" of extra-terrestrail life that you say God is concealing is not so important because, with the distances between galaxies measured in light years, the possiblity of discovering other life forms is zero. Zilch. Nada. So why would God bother telling us about our "neighbors" in another solar system when we have absolutely no chance of ever encountering them?

And we're not necessarily talking about intelligent, humanoid life forms (even though, given the millions if not billions of planets in the universe, there may very well be intelligent beings). It seems somebody has seen too many X Files shows. We're talking about a life form that may be nothing more than a single cell amoeba. Here on earth, we are discovering life forms even to this day that have never been known to exist. Science tells us that with the vastness and complexity of space, the chances of life on other planets is actually quite high. But thats science. Everyone knows science is anti-God, anti-Bible. But that isn't true, either. Science has proven the Bible to be true many times.

We serve a mighty God. He may have done much in the universe that we are not privy to. I do agree that humanity is God's crowning achievement, but, because I can't find the word America in the Bible, I'm not going to deny its existence.

Digging4Truth
02-22-2008, 06:45 AM
Parts of this discussion remind me of one time a friend & I were sitting at the church discussing lots of different things. We somehow got on the subject of dinosaurs.

The pastor walked by and, hearing our conversation, chimed in asking "You don't believe in dinosaurs do you?"

LOL

I said "well... they kinda... found the bones" :)

We let it drop as did he. That was probably for the better.

Lafon
02-22-2008, 09:02 AM
Parts of this discussion remind me of one time a friend & I were sitting at the church discussing lots of different things. We somehow got on the subject of dinosaurs.

The pastor walked by and, hearing our conversation, chimed in asking "You don't believe in dinosaurs do you?"

LOL

I said "well... they kinda... found the bones" :)

We let it drop as did he. That was probably for the better.

Yes, you're absolutely correct! This discussion, although I did submit my "two cents worth" to it, brings to mind the apostle Paul's words of admonition to Timothy:

"But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing they do gender strife." [II Tim. 2:23]

One could discuss, debate and argue about matters such as this until they "turn blue in the face," and in the final analysis, what is acheived? Absolutely nothing! Thus my final words about this "foolish and unlearned question."

Digging4Truth
02-22-2008, 09:06 AM
Yes, you're absolutely correct! This discussion, although I did submit my "two cents worth" to it, brings to mind the apostle Paul's words of admonition to Timothy:

"But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing they do gender strife." [II Tim. 2:23]

One could discuss, debate and argue about matters such as this until they "turn blue in the face," and in the final analysis, what is acheived? Absolutely nothing! Thus my final words about this "foolish and unlearned question."

Well said...

In the end... we're all guessing.

OneAccord
02-22-2008, 09:10 AM
Yes, you're absolutely correct! This discussion, although I did submit my "two cents worth" to it, brings to mind the apostle Paul's words of admonition to Timothy:

"But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing they do gender strife." [II Tim. 2:23]

One could discuss, debate and argue about matters such as this until they "turn blue in the face," and in the final analysis, what is acheived? Absolutely nothing! Thus my final words about this "foolish and unlearned question."

Yeah, you're right. It is kinda a dumb thread, isn't it? But, it was interesting...while it lasted.

Neck
02-22-2008, 09:37 AM
Do you believe there are aliens?

Are we alone?

What really happened down at Roswell?


No but Tom Crusie and John Travolta do...

Whole Hearted
02-22-2008, 09:52 AM
ABSOLUTLY NOT

chseeads
02-22-2008, 10:05 AM
ABSOLUTLY NOT

Holy smokes, I agree with Whole Hearted...

:runhills


:D

Whole Hearted
02-22-2008, 10:10 AM
The days of miracles is not over.

chseeads
02-22-2008, 10:12 AM
Every once in a while from the depths of your brashness something logical proceeds forth. :D

Digging4Truth
02-22-2008, 10:34 AM
Holy smokes, I agree with Whole Hearted...

:runhills


:D

This is possibly going to sound as though I am ridiculing yours & WH's stance but please do not receive it as such. I am simply asking you a question concerning your stance.

First let me admit freely that any position on this question that I may have cannot, by any stretch of the imagination, be construed as truth as there is no answer given in Gods word for me to stand on. What I feel on this issue is conjecture at best and I represent it as that and no more.

Having said that.

To those who say and agree with the "absolutely not" hypothesis...

Whereas, given the infinite span of time that has been in which our God who is not only everlasting but is FROM everlasting (meaning to me He has always existed).

Whereas, given the estimated hundreds of billions of other galaxies outside of this milky way.

You believe that, absolutely and without question, God has never created life on any other planet but this one?

Let me point out here that I do not believe, absolutely and without question, that He has.

But... it just seems to be quite a stance to say "absolutely not" given the endless amount of time God has been... well... God... and the billions & billions of other galaxies.

To say... I don't think so is one thing but I find "absolutely not" to be quite a statement.

So... to reiterate the question being posed here...

You believe that, absolutely and without question, God has never created life on any other planet but this one?

chseeads
02-22-2008, 10:44 AM
If I'm to believe the Scripture, it tells me that in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. And it goes on to tell me the life that he created upon the earth. It mentions the stars and heavenly bodies that he placed in space, but it makes no mention of anything created there.

It tells me that I was made in the likeness and image of God, and that Jesus Christ was my sacrificial Lamb that took upon Himself the form of man, that He was God manifest in the flesh, to save us. He came to earth to save me. He didn't go to Krypton or some galaxy far far away. If I am to believe that Jesus alone is God, then I can't believe that He is someone else that went somewhere else to save something or somebody else. Because the Book only tells me that He loved the world and gave Himself to save it.

I have no Biblical reason whatsoever to believe that God has spent his time through the eons making other worlds with living people or things or whatever.... If you argue that surely because He's been around so long He must've made something before us, then you'd have to say that He's been making worlds throughout eternity, because eternity has no beginning point.... Why would he have ever waited a bazilliongilliontillionschmillion years that first time to make something if He's so impatient and bored that He had to be making something all the time?

I see no Biblical foundation to support other worlds of creation.

Digging4Truth
02-22-2008, 10:48 AM
Holy smokes, I agree with Whole Hearted...

:runhills


:D

If I'm to believe the Scripture, it tells me that in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. And it goes on to tell me the life that he created upon the earth. It mentions the stars and heavenly bodies that he placed in space, but it makes no mention of anything created there.

It tells me that I was made in the likeness and image of God, and that Jesus Christ was my sacrificial Lamb that took upon Himself the form of man, that He was God manifest in the flesh, to save us. He came to earth to save me. He didn't go to Krypton or some galaxy far far away. If I am to believe that Jesus alone is God, then I can't believe that He is someone else that went somewhere else to save something or somebody else. Because the Book only tells me that He loved the world and gave Himself to save it.

I have no Biblical reason whatsoever to believe that God has spent his time through the eons making other worlds with living people or things or whatever.... If you argue that surely because He's been around so long He must've made something before us, then you'd have to say that He's been making worlds throughout eternity, because eternity has no beginning point.... Why would he have ever waited a bazilliongilliontillionschmillion years that first time to make something if He's so impatient and bored that He had to be making something all the time?

I see no Biblical foundation to support other worlds of creation.

Yes sir... I appreciate your reply and have neither desire nor grounds to disagree. Just asking.

On another forum someone postulated the following.

Just trying to mix it up a little ... what do you make of this scripture?



"The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men." (PS 115:16)

Could the galaxies, heavens, deeper space be simply for the pleasure of the Lord?

I thought that it was a very good thought.

Thanks again for your well thought out reply.

Blessings.

chseeads
02-22-2008, 10:50 AM
Yes sir... I appreciate your reply and have neither desire nor grounds to disagree. Just asking.


I wasn't trying to rip you a new one or anything....hope it didn't sound too defiant. LOL

:gaga

Digging4Truth
02-22-2008, 10:51 AM
I wasn't trying to rip you a new one or anything....hope it didn't sound too defiant. LOL

:gaga

No sir... not in the least. I found it to be a well laid out response to my question.

RevDWW
02-22-2008, 11:05 AM
Where do angels reside? Are they always here on earth? I don' think so, they must be inter-dimensional beings, able to exists in God's pure presence and in this world. How do they travel? Can they travel at the speed of light?There could be "aliens" , but as it was previously mentioned, it does not change the plan of salvation for mankind.

Ezekiel 1:1 - Ezekiel 1:28 (KJV)
1Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, in the fifth day of the month, as I was among the captives by the river of Chebar, that the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God. 2In the fifth day of the month, which was the fifth year of king Jehoiachin’s captivity, 3The word of the LORD came expressly unto Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, in the land of the Chaldeans by the river Chebar; and the hand of the LORD was there upon him.

4And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire. 5Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man. 6And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings. 7And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf’s foot: and they sparkled like the colour of burnished brass. 8And they had the hands of a man under their wings on their four sides; and they four had their faces and their wings. 9Their wings were joined one to another; they turned not when they went; they went every one straight forward. 10As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle. 11Thus were their faces: and their wings were stretched upward; two wings of every one were joined one to another, and two covered their bodies. 12And they went every one straight forward: whither the spirit was to go, they went; and they turned not when they went. 13As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of lamps: it went up and down among the living creatures; and the fire was bright, and out of the fire went forth lightning. 14And the living creatures ran and returned as the appearance of a flash of lightning.

15 Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold one wheel upon the earth by the living creatures, with his four faces. 16The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel. 17When they went, they went upon their four sides: and they turned not when they went. 18As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes round about them four. 19And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up. 20Whithersoever the spirit was to go, they went, thither was their spirit to go; and the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels. 21When those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels. 22And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above. 23And under the firmament were their wings straight, the one toward the other: every one had two, which covered on this side, and every one had two, which covered on that side, their bodies. 24And when they went, I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host: when they stood, they let down their wings. 25And there was a voice from the firmament that was over their heads, when they stood, and had let down their wings.

26And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it. 27And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about. 28As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake. If living creatures not of this earth defines "alien" in this thread then yes "aliens" exists...or Ezekiel is a lair. I find it fascinating! And we have the promise of one day knowing as we are know. So even if I can't or don't figure it all out here one day I'll know the answers.

Esther
02-22-2008, 12:36 PM
GOOD ONE........:ursofunny

I do not believe that there are aliens and I do not believe that we ever landed on the moon..... IMO

Wow!

I have heard folks didn't but never actually met anyone.

Why do you doubt this?

Sherri
02-22-2008, 01:52 PM
Personally I believe that what we've called aliens are manifestations of demonic beings. JMHO!:gaga

DividedThigh
02-22-2008, 01:58 PM
i have a tendency to believ e along the lines of sherris statement, however i do believe in aliens, have you looked around lately , sure not all these people are local, lol,dt:ursofunny

Jehoram
02-22-2008, 02:20 PM
But can demons manifest in flesh?

RandyWayne
02-22-2008, 02:21 PM
No, I do NOT believe that there are aliens (living entities) within the universe we live in, or any other universe for that matter! Either mankind (you and I) are God's "greatest" creation, or we are nothing. Although I am well aware of the fact that there are some (hopefully not many) who embrace a belief in some type of life other than mankind present somewhere else within the "universe of universes," however as for me, either God considers me to be the "apple of His eye," or I am nothing more than a mere piece of clay.

Where in the Bible is it to be found that God created other life-forms on some other planet in the vastness of universe? If this were true, then would it not represent deception on His part in concealing such important information from mankind? If it were true that God created some type of living creatures on other planets, then rest assured they were NOT created "in his image," for ONLY mankind bears this unique resemblance to the One who created ALL things!

.. in one corner of the Eastern Galactic Arm lies the large forest planet Oglaroon, the entire "intelligent" population of which lives permanently in one fairly small and crowded nut tree. In which tree they are born, live, fall in love, carve tiny speculative articles in the bark on the meaning of life, the futility of death, and the importance of birth control, fight a few extremely minor wars and eventually die strapped to the underside of some of the less accessible outer branches.

In fact the only Oglaroonians who ever leave their tree are those who are hurled out of it for the heinous crime of wondering whether any of the other trees might be capable of supporting life at all, or indeed whether the other trees are anything other than illusions brought on by eating too many Oglanuts.

Exotic though this behavior may seem, there is no life form in the galaxy which is not in some way guilty of the same thing.......

--Douglas Adams, The Restaurant at the EEnd of the Universe

RevDWW
02-22-2008, 02:24 PM
.. in one corner of the Eastern Galactic Arm lies the large forest planet Oglaroon, the entire "intelligent" population of which lives permanently in one fairly small and crowded nut tree. In which tree they are born, live, fall in love, carve tiny speculative articles in the bark on the meaning of life, the futility of death, and the importance of birth control, fight a few extremely minor wars and eventually die strapped to the underside of some of the less accessible outer branches.

In fact the only Oglaroonians who ever leave their tree are those who are hurled out of it for the heinous crime of wondering whether any of the other trees might be capable of supporting life at all, or indeed whether the other trees are anything other than illusions brought on by eating too many Oglanuts.

Exotic though this behavior may seem, there is no life form in the galaxy which is not in some way guilty of the same thing.......

--Douglas Adams, The Restaurant at the EEnd of the Universe

Did I just experience Deja Vu or have you posted this once before?

Fiyahstarter
02-22-2008, 02:25 PM
If there are does it negate the Word?

If it does, I must have missed that chapter.

I say, NO, that it would not negate the Word. What say ye?

RandyWayne
02-22-2008, 02:27 PM
Did I just experience Deja Vu or have you posted this once before?

I did! Only a few short months ago. :)
But I ALWAYS think of this passage whenever someone waxes about being the center of creation.

Fiyahstarter
02-22-2008, 02:32 PM
There is much we don't know. What we do know, however, is that if there are "aliens" they will one day bow at the feet of Jesus, and confess that he is Lord.

Then we can form an Intergalactic Federation of Apostolics (IFA).

Just think of all the new materials we will have to argue over!!!

Hair length, hair color, lack of hair, hair standing on end, hair bobs, arm hair, facial hair, nose hair, lack of nose hairs (perhaps even lack of noses)...

Can't wait!

OneAccord
02-22-2008, 09:37 PM
.. in one corner of the Eastern Galactic Arm lies the large forest planet Oglaroon, the entire "intelligent" population of which lives permanently in one fairly small and crowded nut tree. In which tree they are born, live, fall in love, carve tiny speculative articles in the bark on the meaning of life, the futility of death, and the importance of birth control, fight a few extremely minor wars and eventually die strapped to the underside of some of the less accessible outer branches.

In fact the only Oglaroonians who ever leave their tree are those who are hurled out of it for the heinous crime of wondering whether any of the other trees might be capable of supporting life at all, or indeed whether the other trees are anything other than illusions brought on by eating too many Oglanuts.

Exotic though this behavior may seem, there is no life form in the galaxy which is not in some way guilty of the same thing.......

--Douglas Adams, The Restaurant at the EEnd of the Universe


Huh, RandyWayne- I've been to Oglaroon. It ain't all that. Trees are uncomfortable, rustling leaves, nuts droppin' on yer head.
And those less accessible outer branches. Man, their murder on yer back!