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Dan'D
03-08-2008, 03:39 PM
Obama's full name is BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.
That by itself is a reason not to vote for him. No one knows how he looks at the Muslim faith. His father was Muslim and his mother did not reject it, or they would not had given him that name.
Who was he named after with a middle name “Hussein”
In this time in history we don’t need to take any chances.
Dan’D
chosenbyone
03-08-2008, 03:48 PM
Obama's full name is BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.
That by itself is a reason not to vote for him. No one knows how he looks at the Muslim faith. His father was Muslim and his mother did not reject it, or they would not had given him that name.
Who was he named after with a middle name “Hussein”
In this time in history we don’t need to take any chances.
Dan’D
Oh, please! He was named well before any of us ever heard of Iraq's Hussein. Only people who were blinded by prejudice and who were narrow-minded would think that somehow his name affected his ability to lead our country.
Forgive me if I come across a bit harsh, but the notion that he should be judged on his birth-name and not his character or record seems unfair.
Do you think that he should have changed his name once Saddam fell out of favor with the CIA?
staysharp
03-08-2008, 04:02 PM
Obama's full name is BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.
That by itself is a reason not to vote for him. No one knows how he looks at the Muslim faith. His father was Muslim and his mother did not reject it, or they would not had given him that name.
Who was he named after with a middle name “Hussein”
In this time in history we don’t need to take any chances.
Dan’D
I've said all along, he will not be elected because of his name. Two of our arch enemies are Osama and Hussein. Regardless of how politically correct we want to be, middle America will not vote for a president who has muslim names. At the end of the day, it will be Hillary vs. McCain.
HeavenlyOne
03-08-2008, 04:06 PM
Obama's full name is BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.
That by itself is a reason not to vote for him. No one knows how he looks at the Muslim faith. His father was Muslim and his mother did not reject it, or they would not had given him that name.
Who was he named after with a middle name “Hussein”
In this time in history we don’t need to take any chances.
Dan’D
Are you responsible for what your parents named you? Does you name have anything to do with the kind of person you are?
If they named him David Jesus Smith, would that make you want to vote for him? Would his name be the reason he might be a Christian had he been named that?
HeavenlyOne
03-08-2008, 04:06 PM
I've said all along, he will not be elected because of his name. Two of our arch enemies are Osama and Hussein. Regardless of how politically correct we want to be, middle America will not vote for a president who has muslim names. At the end of the day, it will be Hillary vs. McCain.
The polls disagree at the moment.
Dan'D
03-08-2008, 04:12 PM
Are you responsible for what your parents named you? Does you name have anything to do with the kind of person you are?
If they named him David Jesus Smith, would that make you want to vote for him? Would his name be the reason he might be a Christian had he been named that?
The idea he has Muslim heritage does not bother you.
Dan’D
HeavenlyOne
03-08-2008, 04:21 PM
The idea he has Muslim heritage does not bother you.
Dan’D
He's been a professing Christian for over 25 years now. He hasn't had Muslim influence since he was about ten years old. There are lots of Christians who have a Muslim background. Do we not trust any of them either?
Cindy
03-08-2008, 04:35 PM
I don't have a problem with his name, but I do have a problem with his politics.
Dan'D
03-08-2008, 04:35 PM
He's been a professing Christian for over 25 years now. He hasn't had Muslim influence since he was about ten years old. There are lots of Christians who have a Muslim background. Do we not trust any of them either?
Ten years is a long time to be. Do you remember back when you were 10.
Not a risk I'm willing to take.
Dan'D
scotty
03-08-2008, 04:49 PM
Did any of you see the news report about the terrorist dancing in the streets when Obama won all those states a week or two ago ?
Gotta find that again...
HeavenlyOne
03-08-2008, 05:12 PM
Ten years is a long time to be. Do you remember back when you were 10.
Not a risk I'm willing to take.
Dan'D
ROFL!
Yes, I remember when I was ten, but I can't tell you what I learned in Sunday School. I remember being there, but I just can't remember what I learned exactly. I was also in school, but I can't tell you the names of three kids in my class. Thinks that I learned up until I was ten really don't matter to me today. I have learned a lot since I was ten that has made me into the person I am today.
Do you not believe that God changes people? This guy is a Christian according to his own lips. If that's true, why are you underestimating the power of God?
That's exactly what you are doing if you think this guy will suddenly become Muslim in office after all these years.
Like someone else said, it's his politics that bother me more than his name or how he was raised.
Dan'D
03-08-2008, 05:15 PM
ROFL!
Yes, I remember when I was ten, but I can't tell you what I learned in Sunday School. I remember being there, but I just can't remember what I learned exactly. I was also in school, but I can't tell you the names of three kids in my class. Thinks that I learned up until I was ten really don't matter to me today. I have learned a lot since I was ten that has made me into the person I am today.
Do you not believe that God changes people? This guy is a Christian according to his own lips. If that's true, why are you underestimating the power of God?
That's exactly what you are doing if you think this guy will suddenly become Muslim in office after all these years.
Like someone else said, it's his politics that bother me more than his name or how he was raised.
Combination of both.
Dan’D
chosenbyone
03-08-2008, 05:25 PM
I don't have a problem with his name, but I do have a problem with his politics.
I can respect that you don't share his political views. :friend
It's when people discriminate against others because of their race, ethnic background, creed, sex, etc...that all my respect goes out the window. I wonder if God is pleased when we discriminate against others like the world does?
Sometimes, it gets very hard to recognize some folks as Christians when they don't demonstrate the love of Christ. People continue to judge others without any noticeable concern on how it must grieve the Lord and how it may effect them on judgment day.
OP_Carl
03-10-2008, 05:08 AM
Obama's full name is BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.
That by itself is a reason not to vote for him. No one knows how he looks at the Muslim faith. His father was Muslim and his mother did not reject it, or they would not had given him that name.
Who was he named after with a middle name “Hussein”
In this time in history we don’t need to take any chances.
Dan’D
Hussein was a grandson of the Prophet Mohammed. I don't have a problem with his name. Michael Savage does, though.
The idea he has Muslim heritage does not bother you?
Dan’D
Not nearly so much as his black separatist church bothers me. An Obama presidency is not likely to help race relations.
SOUNWORTHY
03-10-2008, 09:43 AM
ROFL!
Yes, I remember when I was ten, but I can't tell you what I learned in Sunday School. I remember being there, but I just can't remember what I learned exactly. I was also in school, but I can't tell you the names of three kids in my class. Thinks that I learned up until I was ten really don't matter to me today. I have learned a lot since I was ten that has made me into the person I am today.
Do you not believe that God changes people? This guy is a Christian according to his own lips. .
So is Jesse Jackson but his record doesn't ring true. From my own lips, I'm a Dr. but you don't want me to operate on you.
JTULLOCK
03-10-2008, 10:04 AM
No,I have no problem witn it. He can not help what he was named. Now if he was born one name then changed it to that it becomes a little different, but still no problem for me. I have known many, many people with these types of names and they have been great American citizens. Infact, even though I am not for much of what he is for I am not too sure I would have a problem with him being the Prez. I would however rather McCain win.
ChristopherHall
03-13-2008, 08:35 PM
I have no issue with his name.
I now have a problem with him. I think he is lying about the knowledge of his pastor's point of view on the USA.
Obama will not be president.
I am starting to think John M will win...
Jermyn Davidson
03-17-2008, 03:53 PM
I do not have a problem with his name. I disagree with a few of his positions. I hope he makes it to the general election as I really would like to see McCain and Obama square off.
Fiyahstarter
03-17-2008, 09:37 PM
I now have a problem with him. I think he is lying about the knowledge of his pastor's point of view on the USA.
Obama will not be president.
I think he's lying about his pastor and religious stance and his loyalty to America too. I wonder if his name is a warning sign for us??
I hope you are right -- that he will NOT be president.
RevDWW
03-17-2008, 09:47 PM
I guess I can pronounce it rather well so no I don't have a problem with his name. His policies on the other hand are a whole different story..........:ursofunny
HeavenlyOne
03-17-2008, 10:13 PM
I think he's lying about his pastor and religious stance and his loyalty to America too. I wonder if his name is a warning sign for us??
I hope you are right -- that he will NOT be president.
You know, I think in a lot of ways, Mark was right all along........
Fiyahstarter
03-18-2008, 05:48 PM
You know, I think in a lot of ways, Mark was right all along........
Where is that dude, anyway? I miss sparring with him.
RandyWayne
03-18-2008, 05:51 PM
Honestly my only "problem" with Obama's name (middle or otherwise) is that the media has considered it sacred and "off limits". It is even considered RACIST to merely utter his middle name!
Jermyn Davidson
03-18-2008, 08:21 PM
Honestly my only "problem" with Obama's name (middle or otherwise) is that the media has considered it sacred and "off limits". It is even considered RACIST to merely utter his middle name!
How many people know John McCain's middle name-- does his middle name have any bearing on why you may or may not support him?
Why should Barak Obama's middle name matter then--why should it be discussed? What would you discuss about it?
HeavenlyOne
03-18-2008, 10:43 PM
Where is that dude, anyway? I miss sparring with him.
Email him via his username profile here.
I wondered how long it would be before someone started a thread about Barak Obama's name. If it wasn't so pathetic it might actually be funny.
SOUNWORTHY
03-20-2008, 07:17 PM
How many people know John McCain's middle name-- does his middle name have any bearing on why you may or may not support him?
Why should Barak Obama's middle name matter then--why should it be discussed? What would you discuss about it?
John Sidney McCain III
It's not Obama's first name, middle name or last name, nor the color of his skin or political party that bothers me. It's what we don't know about him. His wife and his pastor have already told the truth about how they feels about this great country of ours.
HeavenlyOne
03-20-2008, 10:23 PM
Sidney???
Uh, did you know that if you remove the d, e, and y, you end up with SIN???
Sorry, can't vote for John. Sin is his middle name!!!
tamor
03-21-2008, 09:15 AM
Sidney???
Uh, did you know that if you remove the d, e, and y, you end up with SIN???
Sorry, can't vote for John. Sin is his middle name!!!
You go, Girlfriend!! :bliss
HeavenlyOne
03-21-2008, 11:17 AM
You go, Girlfriend!! :bliss
Hey, I'm trying to keep the intelligence in this thread!! Thanks for the kudos!
tamor
03-21-2008, 11:20 AM
Hey, I'm trying to keep the intelligence in this thread!! Thanks for the kudos!
Sounds good to me!
Felicity
03-21-2008, 11:21 AM
Are you responsible for what your parents named you? Does you name have anything to do with the kind of person you are?
If they named him David Jesus Smith, would that make you want to vote for him? Would his name be the reason he might be a Christian had he been named that?Exactly.
Truly Blessed
03-22-2008, 10:57 AM
Some folks would be opposed to Barak Obama being president for the same reason they would be against someone like Obama being their pastor. He thinks outside the box and represents change. The problem with some Christians is that they make choices about politics based on religious views. The Presidency is a secular office not a religious office and the choice for president should be made on the basis of who is most qualified to make the secular decisions needed to manage the economy and provide national security for the USA.
Some of the presidents who have been perceived as the most devoted Christians have proven to be among the worst disasters as president. Jimmy Carter and George W. Bush come to mind.
Some folks would be opposed to Barak Obama being president for the same reason they would be against someone like Obama being their pastor. He thinks outside the box and represents change. The problem with some Christians is that they make choices about politics based on religious views. The Presidency is a secular office not a religious office and the choice for president should be made on the basis of who is most qualified to make the secular decisions needed to manage the economy and provide national security for the USA.
Some of the presidents who have been perceived as the most devoted Christians have proven to be among the worst disasters as president. Jimmy Carter and George W. Bush come to mind.
My sentiments exactly, TB...:thumbsup
Discerner
03-24-2008, 12:01 PM
I WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR SOMEONE NAMED OBAMA, OSAMA, or HUSSEIN!
President Obama is hunting Osama!
yea right!
Obama's campaign and possible presidency is a joke; if it is not based 100% on race i dont know what is! He is a racist muslim for crying out loud!! I'm sorry but what his "pastor" says is not comparable to UPC doctrine and if you think so you need to find another "denom". Our radicalisms do not stir hatred. (or so i hope) I cannot believe the state of Americans nor can I imagine what goes through the minds of voters defiling our country b voting for Hussien!
Why is Hillary not playing this up? Do voters know his name? Why dont they care? What about mothers, fathers and brothers, children who died fighting in the Middle East against Hussein's tyranny? Now their neighbors are voting and they will be subjects of President Hussein.
I cannot imagine! It makes me wanna move!
chosenbyone
03-24-2008, 12:14 PM
Some folks would be opposed to Barak Obama being president for the same reason they would be against someone like Obama being their pastor. He thinks outside the box and represents change. The problem with some Christians is that they make choices about politics based on religious views. The Presidency is a secular office not a religious office and the choice for president should be made on the basis of who is most qualified to make the secular decisions needed to manage the economy and provide national security for the USA.
Some of the presidents who have been perceived as the most devoted Christians have proven to be among the worst disasters as president. Jimmy Carter and George W. Bush come to mind.
Excellent post and very true! Politicians have used the "I am a Christian" card to deceive many folks into thinking that they would be guided by God with their decisions while in office. I would have thought that Americans would have seen through that web of deceit while GWB was in office, but sadly people remained absolute in believing the hype.
Discerner
03-24-2008, 12:16 PM
Some folks would be opposed to Barak Obama being president for the same reason they would be against someone like Obama being their pastor. He thinks outside the box and represents change. The problem with some Christians is that they make choices about politics based on religious views. The Presidency is a secular office not a religious office and the choice for president should be made on the basis of who is most qualified to make the secular decisions needed to manage the economy and provide national security for the USA.
Some of the presidents who have been perceived as the most devoted Christians have proven to be among the worst disasters as president. Jimmy Carter and George W. Bush come to mind.
You have to have time to judge Bush. I dont have a problem with someone standing behind religious convictions. I guess we should elect a homo loving, baby killing, tax raisiang, week defense minded president and then you would be happy.
chosenbyone
03-24-2008, 12:24 PM
I WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR SOMEONE NAMED OBAMA, OSAMA, or HUSSEIN!
President Obama is hunting Osama!
yea right!
Do you think that Bush did a great job in hunting down Osama? Six months after declaring that Osama should be caught dead or alive, Bush stated that he wasn't concerned about Osama. He took the focus from Afghanistan and he poured all of our resources to fight an illegal war in Iraq, which was started on lies and deception. Research the web to find out the truth instead of propagating the spin from Washington.
Truth will always come to light eventually...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Tcib62ibR0k&feature=related
Michael Phelps
03-24-2008, 12:28 PM
Do you think that Bush did a great job in hunting down Osama? Six months after declaring that Osama should be caught dead or alive, Bush stated that he wasn't concerned about Osama. He took the focus from Afghanistan and he poured all of our resources to fight an illegal war in Iraq, which was started on lies and deception. Research the web to find out the truth instead of propagating the spin from Washington.
Truth will always come to light eventually...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Tcib62ibR0k&feature=related
The bolded statement causes me great concern. If you're relying on the Web to provide you with truth, I can see the cause of your confusion!
chosenbyone
03-24-2008, 12:37 PM
The bolded statement causes me great concern. If you're relying on the Web to provide you with truth, I can see the cause of your confusion!
Come on now, MP! Do you not think that the web offers a wide variety of opinions and has been a tool to research the truth? I didn't say that I believed everything on the web represented the truth.
To get an accurate account of many of the world events, we cannot depend on our media to give us an unbiased account. On the web, we can access a variety of news sources in order to get to the real story.
I cannot imagine! It makes me wanna move!
Sounds like a plan. Need any help packing?
chosenbyone
03-24-2008, 03:49 PM
Sounds like a plan. Need any help packing?
:ursofunny:wave:rip
Elisabeth
03-25-2008, 08:36 AM
:highfive:highfiveSome folks would be opposed to Barak Obama being president for the same reason they would be against someone like Obama being their pastor. He thinks outside the box and represents change. The problem with some Christians is that they make choices about politics based on religious views. The Presidency is a secular office not a religious office and the choice for president should be made on the basis of who is most qualified to make the secular decisions needed to manage the economy and provide national security for the USA.
Some of the presidents who have been perceived as the most devoted Christians have proven to be among the worst disasters as president. Jimmy Carter and George W. Bush come to mind.
Amen to that!! One of my pet peeves (of which I have many) is with preachers who stand behind the pulpit and either campaign for or denounce a particular candidate. It is absolutely sickening!! Secular politics has no place in the pulpit. I even heard one preacher announce from behind the pulpit, "if you don't know how to vote, come see me after church and I'll tell you!" ARRGGH!! I left right after the sermon that day!!
George "Dubbya" has been a disaster from day one....and he was lauded as "the man-a-God" by so many preachers - again - it shouldn't be a "church subject". End of my rant, but nice to see you put it so plainly, TB!!
:highfive
Rhoni
04-08-2008, 08:49 PM
Oh, please! He was named well before any of us ever heard of Iraq's Hussein. Only people who were blinded by prejudice and who were narrow-minded would think that somehow his name affected his ability to lead our country.
Forgive me if I come across a bit harsh, but the notion that he should be judged on his birth-name and not his character or record seems unfair.
Do you think that he should have changed his name once Saddam fell out of favor with the CIA?
Dear Chosen,
I respectfully disagree with you. Names are very important, especially in the Bible. But if you listen closely to he and his wife...they do have an agenda, although subtle, it is deadly in its intent.
I would not vote for a man who has muslim roots, name of a terrorist, who goes to a church led by a man who espouses hatred and getting even for all the atrocities done to his ancestors.
Blessings, Rhoni
AmazingGrace
04-08-2008, 08:51 PM
Dear Chosen,
I respectfully disagree with you. Names are very important, especially in the Bible. But if you listen closely to he and his wife...they do have an agenda, although subtle, it is deadly in its intent.
I would not vote for a man who has muslim roots, name of a terrorist, who goes to a church led by a man who espouses hatred and getting even for all the atrocities done to his ancestors.
Blessings, Rhoni
Amen there Sister!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Big ole AMEN!!!
HeavenlyOne
04-08-2008, 08:59 PM
Dear Chosen,
I respectfully disagree with you. Names are very important, especially in the Bible. But if you listen closely to he and his wife...they do have an agenda, although subtle, it is deadly in its intent.
I would not vote for a man who has muslim roots, name of a terrorist, who goes to a church led by a man who espouses hatred and getting even for all the atrocities done to his ancestors.
Blessings, Rhoni
He didn't have the name of a terrorist when he was born.......
There are lots of people named Hussein. King Hussein of Jordan (I think that's where he's at) is a good man, for instance.
SOUNWORTHY
04-10-2008, 02:02 PM
I don't care if his name is Jesus of Nazareth ll and is was as white as snow, I wouldn't vote for him because of what he stands for or maybe I should say what he doesn't stand for. sometimes we Americans are extreemly selfish, if we think something will benefit us personally, forget the long term results.
SuzanneDeAZ
10-07-2008, 08:18 PM
Hussein was a grandson of the Prophet Mohammed. I don't have a problem with his name. Michael Savage does, though.
Not nearly so much as his black separatist church bothers me. An Obama presidency is not likely to help race relations.
Are you all fans of Michael Savage?
deacon blues
10-07-2008, 08:29 PM
Obama's full name is BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.
That by itself is a reason not to vote for him. No one knows how he looks at the Muslim faith. His father was Muslim and his mother did not reject it, or they would not had given him that name.
Who was he named after with a middle name “Hussein”
In this time in history we don’t need to take any chances.
Dan’D
There is plenty to worry about Obama than to worry about his middle name or the weak argument that he might be Muslim.
The facts of his liberal policies, the things he has said on the record, his voting record, his lack of any real accomplishments, his very dubious alliances and associations are lenty of ammunition to not vote for the man. As Thomas Sowell said in his column these lines of attack on Obama undermine the truly legitimate questions (and believe me there are many, many questions) about Obama and his worthiness to be President.
StMark
10-07-2008, 09:18 PM
Are you all fans of Michael Savage?
I listen to his show. I'm close to the bay area where he airs from
PMBrown
10-08-2008, 08:15 PM
Obama's full name is BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.
That by itself is a reason not to vote for him. No one knows how he looks at the Muslim faith. His father was Muslim and his mother did not reject it, or they would not had given him that name.
Who was he named after with a middle name “Hussein”
In this time in history we don’t need to take any chances.
Dan’D
If Barack's full name wasn't a serious issue to many, people like Ann Coulter wouldn't keep finding ways to quote it in full.
MikeinAR
10-08-2008, 10:01 PM
There is plenty to worry about Obama than to worry about his middle name or the weak argument that he might be Muslim.
The facts of his liberal policies, the things he has said on the record, his voting record, his lack of any real accomplishments, his very dubious alliances and associations are lenty of ammunition to not vote for the man. As Thomas Sowell said in his column these lines of attack on Obama undermine the truly legitimate questions (and believe me there are many, many questions) about Obama and his worthiness to be President.
I completely agree with this post, DB. That doesn't happen too often, but you're exactly right.
By taking on illegitimate arguments like "he's Muslim" and "his middle name is Hussein" it makes the Repubs seem small minded and out in right field compared to where the real issues are.
Your second paragraph is where this election would have to be won by McCain. Those are the issues that people actually care about and where Obama is very open to attack. To this point, the McCain team hasn't connected with voters on those issues.
George
10-09-2008, 12:44 AM
Here's the question - would you name your kid Obama or Hussein or Barak?
What do I think of the name? It is UGLY!!!
Another question - why is everyone referring to Obama as black??? He is 1/2 white, 1/4 African, and 1/4 Arab.
PMBrown
10-09-2008, 02:47 AM
Here's the question - would you name your kid Obama or Hussein or Barak?
What do I think of the name? It is UGLY!!!
Another question - why is everyone referring to Obama as black??? He is 1/2 white, 1/4 African, and 1/4 Arab.
I would think that's because its his salient feature (Sociology 101) - that's what stands out, and so people -by nature- tend to focus on that. Also, that seems to be the ethnic group with which he has iself identified with publicly the most. And the Arab thing has not escaped attention either - hence the nature of this thread.
SOUNWORTHY
10-09-2008, 05:51 AM
Unless God intervenes there is a good chance that we will have a president with a strange sounding name but the name is the least of our worries. At this point I'd almost welcome Bill Clinton back, at least he was likable. He also was familiar with our gospel.
We just closed a revival last night and even though the evangelist didn't mention politics or names he said that the spirit of the antichrist is alive but God can turn everything around. His series was taken from the book of Esther. God is able to defeat the enemy. I still feel that God allowed Governor Palin to come on the scene for a reason. Wish some of her enthusiasm would rub off on Senator McCain.
I've never been called so many names as I have here on AFF and I may have asked for it at times. Now is not the time for Apostolic's to squabble but to unite in prayer that God will step in and turn things around for our country.
Good morning and God bless you all
MikeinAR
10-09-2008, 07:15 AM
Here's the question - would you name your kid Obama or Hussein or Barak?
What do I think of the name? It is UGLY!!!
Another question - why is everyone referring to Obama as black??? He is 1/2 white, 1/4 African, and 1/4 Arab.
Where did you get your information that he was "1/4 Arab"? I know Ken Lamb and Rush Limbaugh have been claiming that but it's been without verification from everything I've read. That's certainly nothing new from Limbaugh.
tstew
10-09-2008, 09:42 AM
Here's the question - would you name your kid Obama or Hussein or Barak?
What do I think of the name? It is UGLY!!!
Another question - why is everyone referring to Obama as black??? He is 1/2 white, 1/4 African, and 1/4 Arab.
George, I am a little dissapointed. It is statements like this that makes many in the world look at the US as ethnocentric jerks. To call a foreign language name ugly is immature in my opinion. I'm sure that you wouldn't name your kid that since it is not connected to your ethnic history. Do you not think that there are fellow Apostolic believers who have this name? Do you not realize that you will most certainly be sharing heaven with people with Semitic, African, and Arabic names...Heaven was not just made for the Georges of the world whether we realize it or not.
And take one look at his father's picture...that is about as all Black as one gets. Now certainly he is 1/2 white and 1/2 black...and I for one would like his whiteness to be discussed as well. However, Black is a color and in the history of our society, people who look like him have been called Black and treated as Black for generations
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