ARRGGHHH!!! Copyright Laws!

[The Mrs]

Posting Quotes & Links

All copyrighted material must be given credit and the source cited. If it's posted on the internet you must provide a link. Posting only portions of quotes is allowed. Entire content or excessive quoting is not allowed, i.e., quoting 30% of a news article would be too much, unless you have direct permission. Thank you for helping to keep the forum in compliance with copyright laws. Any link that is offensive in nature will be deleted. All links are subject to the approval of Admin.

PLEASE people! We have GOT to do better with posting copyrighted material! :girlytantrum

Cite the sources, include the online link, and post NO MORE THAN 30% of the article! Just pick out a couple of key paragraphs to jumpstart the conversation, or if it's a very small article, pick out a couple of key sentences, but no more.

We have warned and warned and warned...In all fairness, I wanted to make sure that you all received a final warning before infractions are handed out for this rule violation. If you post too much of an article or the entire article, expect to be hearing from Admin. :winkgrin


(No, I'm not mad...just wanted to make sure I got your attention, and you will remember this cuz I'm tired of warning folks. It's time for some consequences to befall you rule-breakers!) :heeheehee

[HeavenlyOne]

Do we get rewards for reporting posts?

:D

I'm desperate!! I need the money!!

[The Mrs]

Do we get rewards for reporting posts?

:D

I'm desperate!! I need the money!!

Now there's an idea! :noidea

[Ron]

PLEASE people! We have GOT to do better with posting copyrighted material! :girlytantrum

Cite the sources, include the online link, and post NO MORE THAN 30% of the article! Just pick out a couple of key paragraphs to jumpstart the conversation, or if it's a very small article, pick out a couple of key sentences, but no more.

We have warned and warned and warned...In all fairness, I wanted to make sure that you all received a final warning before infractions are handed out for this rule violation. If you post too much of an article or the entire article, expect to be hearing from Admin. :winkgrin


(No, I'm not mad...just wanted to make sure I got your attention, and you will remember this cuz I'm tired of warning folks. It's time for some consequences to befall you rule-breakers!) :heeheehee

You sound stressed!:D

[Cindy]

You're not the boss of me!!!!!!!!!

:girlytantrum

Besides I'm a good girl, I have never done that. If I can't think of my own stuff to post I don't post.

:happydance :happydance

[Pressing-On]

I've been following the rule!!! :thumbsup

Do I check for infractions in my profile? Hehehehehehehe

[Cindy]

I've been following the rule!!! :thumbsup

Do I check for infractions in my profile? Hehehehehehehe

Yep, I pretty much obey all traffic laws.........:gaga

[Pressing-On]

Yep, I pretty much obey all traffic laws.........:gaga

I do too!!! I never speed - seriously. "I'm a good girl, I am." - in my best Liza voice from My Fair Lady. :toofunny

[The Mrs]

You sound stressed!:D

The only stress this causes me is that I HATE handing out infractions!

If ya'll would just obey the rules.... :gaga

[Cindy]

The only stress this causes me is that I HATE handing out infractions!

If ya'll would just obey the rules.... :gaga

Sic 'em, we know how that Canadian is..........:D

[Ron]

The only stress this causes me is that I HATE handing out infractions!

If ya'll would just obey the rules.... :gaga

I hate those things too, in fact, I take low dose Aspirin to keep from having an Infarction!:happydance

[Ron]

Sic 'em, we know how that Canadian is..........:D

Who we talking about?:hmmm

[HeavenlyOne]

Now there's an idea! :noidea

Goodie!! I might be able to move this month!!

[The Mrs]

If you post an article in its entirety, you can expect to come back and find only portions of it left.

The post will be edited to comply with the laws, and it may not include your original intentions for the post/thread.

It is better that YOU fix it to reflect your intent than an uninterested Admin. :gaga

[AmericanAngel]

Did I break a rule? Oh Goodie!....Not! :reaction

[Rico]

PLEASE people! We have GOT to do better with posting copyrighted material! :girlytantrum

Cite the sources, include the online link, and post NO MORE THAN 30% of the article! Just pick out a couple of key paragraphs to jumpstart the conversation, or if it's a very small article, pick out a couple of key sentences, but no more.

We have warned and warned and warned...In all fairness, I wanted to make sure that you all received a final warning before infractions are handed out for this rule violation. If you post too much of an article or the entire article, expect to be hearing from Admin. :winkgrin


(No, I'm not mad...just wanted to make sure I got your attention, and you will remember this cuz I'm tired of warning folks. It's time for some consequences to befall you rule-breakers!) :heeheehee

I bet TheMr loves it when you crack that whip! :D

[Mosby48]

Who we talking about?:hmmm
Guilty dog barks first!!! Jk!!

[Tiberius Pantera]

What if I write the artical. then can I post more than 30% without posting the link?

what if the article i want to post is 29% of War and Peace?

can I do that?

what if I go out and purchase the copy writes to an article? can I post it then?

[The Mrs]

What if I write the artical. then can I post more than 30% without posting the link?

what if the article i want to post is 29% of War and Peace?

can I do that?

what if I go out and purchase the copy writes to an article? can I post it then?


You just HAVE to be difficult, don't you! :smack

Here is what wiki says about owner's rights (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_copyright_law):

Exclusive rights

There are five basic rights protected by copyright, and they are sometimes called the five "pillars" of copyright. The owner of copyright has the exclusive right to do and to authorize others to do the following:


To reproduce the work in copies or phonorecords;
To prepare derivative works based upon the work;
To distribute copies or phonorecords of the work to the public by sale or other transfer of ownership, or by rental, lease, or lending;
To publicly perform the work, in the case of literary, musical, dramatic, and choreographic works, pantomimes, and motion pictures and other audiovisual works;
To publicly display the work, in the case of literary, musical, dramatic, and choreographic works, pantomimes, and pictorial, graphic, or sculptural works, including the individual images of a motion picture or other audiovisual work.

[tstew]

I do too!!! I never speed - seriously. "I'm a good girl, I am." - in my best Liza voice from My Fair Lady. :toofunny

A beautiful example of citing the source

[TRFrance]

Ok folks, I’m not trying to cause trouble here, but where do we get the 30% number from? I’ve never seen that anywhere, as far as what I've read concerning copyright law. Is the 30% rule a matter of law, or just a preference of this website?

Also...what if the information is not copyrighted; does the 30% rule still apply?

[The Mrs]

Ok folks, I’m not trying to cause trouble here, but where do we get the 30% number from? I’ve never seen that anywhere, as far as what I've read concerning copyright law. Is the 30% rule a matter of law, or just a preference of this website?

Also...what if the information is not copyrighted; does the 30% rule still apply?

Yes, I think that was just an arbitrary figure we came up with to give as an example.

And most published articles on the web today fall under copyright protections (news, articles, etc.) which is mainly what our members post, so we don't really run into many not copyrighted material.

Here is an excerpt I found regarding this:

Fair Use of Copyrighted Material

The fourth and final factor is "the effect of the use upon the potential market value or value of the copyrighted work." So, if you copy an entire article from CNN's website, you may be a copyright infringer since you've arguably reduced the market for their site. The recipient of your copy has no need to visit CNN's site. You gave them the article.

If you were to copy the headline and first paragraph, and then told them to go to CNN.com for the rest, you're more likely to have the protection of "fair use." If anything, you've helped create a potential market by giving a teaser sample of the whole article.

by Mark Grossman
Copyright Laws on the Internet (http://www.ecomputerlaw.com/articles/show_article.php?article=2006_copyright_laws_on_th e_internet)
Grossman Law Group

[The Mrs]

A couple more interesting FAQs:

1. What does an author have to do to obtain copyright protection for his or her work?

Absolutely nothing! Under the present Copyright Act, copyright protection begins automatically upon creation of a work, and the work is "created" when it is fixed in a tangible medium for the first time. The work does not have to be registered with the U.S. Copyright Office, nor does it have to carry a copyright notice. Both are advisable, however. See Questions 7-9 below.

2. Why would I want to register my copyright?

Although copyright ownership in a work attaches at the moment of creation and is not lost for failure to register, a prerequisite to a lawsuit alleging copyright infringement is registration with the U.S. Copyright Office. Thus, one could register a copyright after an infringement has occurred, but, in general, failure to register a work before an infringement has occurred means that one may not obtain either statutory (as opposed to actual) damages or attorneys' fees if the registration has not been made within three months of the first publication of the work (sections 411 and 412 of the US Copyright Law).

UC Copyright Info from University of California (http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/copyright/faqs.html)

If I'm reading this right...there is no such thing as non-copyrighted material. :gaga

[TRFrance]

well, I do see your point, and I appreciate the response.

Just wanted to clarify though...

There's a lot of non-commercial material on the 'net that that the writer doesn't particularly want to copyright (a lot of religious material is like this). They post it on the net for full public consumption, and dont mind if other people copy it and repost/republish it, as long as it they receive proper attribution for their work (website link, etc.). To them, since the dissemination of the material is the whole point of them writing it, they have no problem with people sharing it with others... as a matter of fact, they welcome it.

so that was what my question was geared toward, as far as non-copyrighted material is concerned (even though, as you said, even non-copyrighted material is still copyrighted in a sense... if that makes sense).

Blessings.

[The Mrs]

well, I do see your point, and I appreciate the response.

Just wanted to clarify though...

There's a lot of non-commercial material on the 'net that that the writer doesn't particularly want to copyright (a lot of religious material is like this). They post it on the net for full public consumption, and dont mind if other people copy it and repost/republish it, as long as it they receive proper attribution for their work (website link, etc.). To them, since the dissemination of the material is the whole point of them writing it, they have no problem with people sharing it with others... as a matter of fact, they welcome it.

so that was what my question was geared toward, as far as non-copyrighted material is concerned (even though, as you said, even non-copyrighted material is still copyrighted in a sense... if that makes sense).

Blessings.

I understand what you're saying. I know that Bro. Atkinson has a couple of Bible Studies on his Apostolic.net site that are not copyrighted.

I guess you just have to be informed and know what's what, and what's cool to post and what's not. For the most part, the Admin Team has had to work pretty hard to get our members to comply with the laws. I started this thread in hopes that we would have more of our members better informed so that we don't have to work so hard. You've helped with that. Thanks! :thumbsup