View Full Version : IRVIN BAXTER-Final 7 Yrs Will Begin This Year!
StMark
07-25-2008, 12:52 PM
I got This Email just now- Has this been covered Already?? I couldn't remember - even so, what do you think about it ????
President Bush:
Final 7 years will begin this year!
President Bush has said that he believes the final seven years to the Battle of Armageddon will begin yet this year!
He didn’t say it in exactly those words. What he said was that he believed a final peace agreement between Israel and the Palestinians would be concluded before the end of this year.
The Bible says, when this happens, the final seven years to Armageddon and to the Second Coming of Jesus will begin.
2008—Greatest year of prophetic fulfillment in 2,000 yearsMajor prophetic fulfillments normally happen once in a century. There are presently FOUR MAJOR prophetic fulfillments converging in one year! That’s the reason I believe 2008 will probably be the greatest year of prophetic fulfillment since the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
The 4 prophecies that are converging right now?Two Billion to Die
The Bible specifically prophesies a war for the near future that will kill one-third of mankind—two billion human beings. This war will start from the area of the Euphrates River (the area of Iraq and Iran), and will escalate into the worst war the world has ever known. This will happen at about the same time as the signing of the Middle East peace treaty.
Mark of the Beast
Three and one-half years after the Middle East peace treaty, the mark of the beast will be implemented on earth. All who take the number of the Antichrist (666) will be eternally lost! The UN has asked all nations to implement a number system for all of their citizens by 2010, and almost every nation is doing it right now! In America, it’s called the Real ID.
Antichrist will come from re-born Holy Roman EmpireThe Bible prophesies that the Antichrist and the False Prophet will come to power out of a re-born Holy Roman Empire. The Holy Roman Empire is being recreated right now! On December 13, 2007, the 27 member nations of the European Union, the area of the old Holy Roman Empire, signed a constitution. The constitution is presently in the ratification process. The new Holy Roman Empire is expected to be complete by the end of this year or by early next year.
Mideast Peace—A prophecy with a date on itMost prophecies in the Bible do not have a time attached to their fulfillments. However, the prophecy about the coming Middle East peace treaty does. President Bush believes it will happen yet this year!
2008 Prophecy PackageThe four above prophecies are so important that we have produced a special DVD explaining each one of them. We have put them together as our 2008 Prophecy Package. Normally these four DVDs would be offered for $20 each. If you get all four, you many receive them for your gift of $65. To order, click here.
If you have some of these, but need to order those you don’t have individually, you may do that below.
Two Billion to Die $20-Click here
666—Satan’s Masterplan $20—Click here
Prophetic Destiny of Europe $20—Click here
Middle East Peace Treaty $20—Click here
I hope all of you will get the entire 2008 Prophecy Package for your endtime library.
holinesspk
07-25-2008, 01:01 PM
Jus when you thought Baxter couldnt hit a new low. This guy needs to go to a head doctor for a roof job.........He obviously has never read this scripture.......
Matthew 24:42 (KJC) Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
LUKE2447
07-25-2008, 01:02 PM
YAWN!
Dedicated Mind
07-25-2008, 01:14 PM
IB said the final seven years will begin when THE MIDDLE EAST PEACE TREATY IS SIGNED. It is possible that the treaty could be signed this year, thus beginning the final 7.
DividedThigh
07-25-2008, 01:17 PM
interesting, but not likely
StMark
07-25-2008, 01:22 PM
Does he attend hardgroves' church In North Dallas???
If so, I wonder what Hardgroves take is on all the
prophecy teachings??? Does he agree? Is he Post Trib??
we will know if baxter is right, 7 years after a "final status" on Jerusalem is signed.
however, if Baxter is right about a thrid of us will be too dead to care.
Jermyn Davidson
07-25-2008, 01:46 PM
I for one, am concerned about this and do take what he is saying this time seriously. I used to run and sing cadences about "praying for war" and "what makes the grass grow, blood! blood! blood!" But the Iran situation is REALLY not looking good.
onlygrace
07-25-2008, 01:52 PM
The treaty may be signed, but it will have absolutely nothing to do with bible prophecy.
DividedThigh
07-25-2008, 01:54 PM
I for one, am concerned about this and do take what he is saying this time seriously. I used to run and sing cadences about "praying for war" and "what makes the grass grow, blood! blood! blood!" But the Iran situation is REALLY not looking good.
that is true bro, and could blow up in short order, god help us if the iranian hitler gets nukes, dt
I for one, am concerned about this and do take what he is saying this time seriously. I used to run and sing cadences about "praying for war" and "what makes the grass grow, blood! blood! blood!" But the Iran situation is REALLY not looking good.
I am about 1/3 convinced that in our lifetimes, these things will come to a head and at least part of what IB says is true.
that being that when it all happens a war will take place that kills 1/3 of the population which is just over 2 billion.
the situaiton with Iran, complicate by Russias desire to renew the cold war and its commitment to MAD (Mutually Assured Distruction), and our placing SDI missle technologies in Eastern Europe.... AND Russias recient saber rattleing where they stated they might put nuclear capable airplanes in Cuba....
ALL cause me some pause.
The world is more dangerous now than it has been since the 1970's
Jermyn Davidson
07-25-2008, 01:57 PM
that is true bro, and could blow up in short order, god help us if the iranian hitler gets nukes, dt
this is going the same way it went with Sadaam. First Sadaam denied the Int'l agencies to inspect his stuff.
now Adminejhad....
If it is all peaceful, why hide it?
Sister Alvear
07-25-2008, 01:58 PM
I don´t know much about IB but I personally believe the church will go through the tribulation. I don´t know much about dating things and do not know if we can correctly do that but do know things are winding up.
If others should be right that the rapture is at any moment I feel I am ready however I don´t believe it is...however we believe we need to live READY.
I don´t know much about IB but I personally believe the church will go through the tribulation. I don´t know much about dating things and do not know if we can correctly do that but do know things are winding up.
If others should be right that the rapture is at any moment I feel I am ready however I don´t believe it is...however we believe we need to live READY.
Sister A, I pray for a Pre-Trib rapture and prepare for a Post-Trib one... and hope it all happened in 70 AD!
LOL!
Sister Alvear
07-25-2008, 02:02 PM
Sister A, I pray for a Pre-Trib rapture and prepare for a Post-Trib one... and hope it all happened in 70 AD!
LOL!
sounds good to me!:friend
holinesspk
07-25-2008, 02:44 PM
Sister A, I pray for a Pre-Trib rapture and prepare for a Post-Trib one... and hope it all happened in 70 AD!
LOL!
Thats brilliant!! I love it!! :ursofunny
That was good..........but oh so true. I feel the same way....
Seven final years?
Yeah! We are going home with Jesus!
Woo! Hoo!
Esther
07-25-2008, 03:59 PM
Jus when you thought Baxter couldnt hit a new low. This guy needs to go to a head doctor for a roof job.........He obviously has never read this scripture.......
Matthew 24:42 (KJC) Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
But if I recall correctly it says you will know the season.
im counting on Quetzalcoatl showing up in 2012 and ending it all.
holinesspk
07-25-2008, 04:10 PM
But if I recall correctly it says you will know the season.
Where?? The Bible is pretty clear no man will no when the Lord shall return. The Lord did give us clues and signs in Matthew 24 but then just said that the end is nigh, but then in the same chapter says we still wont know when. He shall return as a thief in the night. I dont know one person that can tell you when he or she will be robbed............
Where?? The Bible is pretty clear no man will no when the Lord shall return. The Lord did give us clues and signs in Matthew 24 but then just said that the end is nigh, but then in the same chapter says we still wont know when. He shall return as a thief in the night. I dont know one person that can tell you when he or she will be robbed............
some folk (good folk really ) enjoy looking into the fog.
the raven
07-25-2008, 04:14 PM
Baxter has been in the Tribulation for the ast 14 years....what a joke this turkey is! His father would roll over in his grave!
holinesspk
07-25-2008, 04:19 PM
some folk (good folk really ) enjoy looking into the fog.
Very true..........I guess we all do.......dont we?
tbpew
07-25-2008, 04:21 PM
Where?? The Bible is pretty clear no man will no when the Lord shall return. The Lord did give us clues and signs in Matthew 24 but then just said that the end is nigh, but then in the same chapter says we still wont know when. He shall return as a thief in the night. I dont know one person that can tell you when he or she will be robbed............
He will not come as a thief in the night for those who are in the light.
ITh 5 is plain.
But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
He will come as a thief in the night for those who are of the darkness.
The writing in the opening verse of what we call Chap. 5 is something that is consistent with a view that differentiates between the scriptural witness of "hour and day" vs. "times and seasons."
But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
children of the light should not be overtaken by a thief in the night. If you can be overtaken, you are NOT a child of the day.
But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
The day of Lord, to us, should not come upon us as a thief in the night.
Esther
07-25-2008, 04:24 PM
He will not come as a thief in the night for those who are in the light.
ITh 5 is plain.
But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
He will come as a thief in the night for those who are of the darkness.
The writing in the opening verse of what we call Chap. 5 is something that is consistent with a view that differentiates between the scriptural witness of "hour and day" vs. "times and seasons."
But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
children of the light should not be overtaken by a thief in the night. If you can be overtaken, you are NOT a child of the day.
But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
The day of Lord, to us, should not come upon us as a thief in the night.
That's the one I was thinking of. :)
holinesspk
07-25-2008, 04:30 PM
(2 Peter 3:10 KJV) But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
As for your verse.........re-read it.
(1 Thessalonians 5:1-2 KJV) But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
That is written to the church of Thessalonica, not sinners. 2 Peter was written to the church in Jerusalem......not sinners. The day of the Lord WILL come as a thief in the night......no need to try and explain it away.......take the Bible for what it says.............
Look at Matthew 24. Two women grinding at the mill....one taken, the other left. Two in the field, one taken, the other left. You think the ones taken saw it coming? Gimme a break......
tbpew
07-25-2008, 04:38 PM
(2 Peter 3:10 KJV) But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
As for your verse.........re-read it.
(1 Thessalonians 5:1-2 KJV) But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
That is written to the church of Thessalonica, not sinners. 2 Peter was written to the church in Jerusalem......not sinners. The day of the Lord WILL come as a thief in the night......no need to try and explain it away.......take the Bible for what it says.............
Look at Matthew 24. Two women grinding at the mill....one taken, the other left. Two in the field, one taken, the other left. You think the ones taken saw it coming? Gimme a break......
If you choose self-imposed darkness, I leave you to it.
holinesspk
07-25-2008, 04:44 PM
If you choose self-imposed darkness, I leave you to it.
lol..........darkness meaning I dont know when the Lord shall return then yes......darkness meaning I wont be in the rapture............no. Read your Bible man............in several places...it specifically says the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night. To break this down as simply as I can, it means that it will be quick like in the twinkling of an eye (1 Corinthians 15:52) and is unknown to us when it will occur just like when a thief comes in the night.....quick and unknown. Is that really that difficult to understand?
Where?? The Bible is pretty clear no man will no when the Lord shall return. The Lord did give us clues and signs in Matthew 24 but then just said that the end is nigh, but then in the same chapter says we still wont know when. He shall return as a thief in the night. I dont know one person that can tell you when he or she will be robbed............
Jesus was talking about what happened in 70AD in Matt 24. I used to think those scriptures dealt with end time stuff too, but not anymore. That was one prophecy I believe has already been fulfilled. Guess that makes me a partial preterist in some people's eyes. If even one single end time prophecy has been fulfilled in the last 2000 years, then everyone should be a partial preterist.
RandyWayne
07-25-2008, 05:17 PM
I'm not afraid, our new lord and savior, Obama, will ride in on his trusty steed and save us all.
ReformedDave
07-25-2008, 05:47 PM
Seven final years?
Yeah! We are going home with Jesus!
Woo! Hoo!
As soon as your heart quits beating you're gonna be with Jesus........
TRFrance
07-25-2008, 05:50 PM
Doesn't Baxter get tired of this merry go round?
Sister Alvear
07-25-2008, 05:55 PM
We may not know the DAY or the HOUR but He did talk about seasons...
Revelationist
07-25-2008, 08:19 PM
When will everyone wake up and stop buying into this? What kind of excuses will be offered in 2015 when nothing happens? New dates will be set and everyone will buy into it again? How long has this been going on? I remember 1988... here we go again. Certainly if this is to happen in our future, the Bible would have been a little clearer about it so as we would know it was about to happen.
Mrs. LPW
07-25-2008, 08:26 PM
we will know if baxter is right, 7 years after a "final status" on Jerusalem is signed.
however, if Baxter is right about a thrid of us will be too dead to care.
:toofunny
Mrs. LPW
07-25-2008, 08:32 PM
"...where is the promise of His coming?...all things continue as they were..."
I'm looking for His coming, love His appearing.
More and more everyday as I watch my small children, I am looking for Him.
James Griffin
07-25-2008, 08:36 PM
"...where is the promise of His coming?...all things continue as they were..."
I'm looking for His coming, love His appearing.
More and more everyday as I watch my small children, I am looking for Him.
Even so Lord Jesus come quickly.
Hoovie
07-25-2008, 08:51 PM
YAWN!
Ditto!
holinesspk
07-26-2008, 01:00 AM
I'm not afraid, our new lord and savior, Obama, will ride in on his trusty steed and save us all.
Hey are you the same RandyWayne from CARM? Just curious. There is a guy on carm, or was that had your sn. I am OnenessPK on there.......anyhow....off subject. lol!
What I was going to say is that, that was funny. Who is his steed? Hilliary?
Berkley
07-26-2008, 01:06 AM
im counting on Quetzalcoatl showing up in 2012 and ending it all.
You know, he was white. He resembled the "white" Jesus that we see on most depictions.
HeavenlyOne
07-27-2008, 06:06 PM
When will everyone wake up and stop buying into this? What kind of excuses will be offered in 2015 when nothing happens? New dates will be set and everyone will buy into it again? How long has this been going on? I remember 1988... here we go again. Certainly if this is to happen in our future, the Bible would have been a little clearer about it so as we would know it was about to happen.
I still have the Prophecy Digest books....LOL! I think there were four of them, and I have one of the 1988 reasons why Jesus is returning in 1988, or something like that.
Pretty funny reading now, but wow, was it scary 20-25 years ago!
Berkley
07-27-2008, 06:07 PM
I still have the Prophecy Digest books....LOL! I think there were four of them, and I have one of the 1988 reasons why Jesus is returning in 1988, or something like that.
Pretty funny reading now, but wow, was it scary 20-25 years ago!
Sis..it was 88 reasons! :)
HeavenlyOne
07-27-2008, 06:55 PM
Sis..it was 88 reasons! :)
I've heard more than that......LOL!
And it wasn't just the UPCers or Apostolics that thought the end of the world was near. I remember hearing about a Baptist pastor in Arizona who told his flock to sell their things and wait for Christ on a certain date.
Well, seems that he only pastored stupid people, cause they did it.
Of course, he lost his church and his flock and had several lawsuits against him...
Mrs. LPW
07-27-2008, 07:30 PM
I've heard more than that......LOL!
And it wasn't just the UPCers or Apostolics that thought the end of the world was near. I remember hearing about a Baptist pastor in Arizona who told his flock to sell their things and wait for Christ on a certain date.
Well, seems that he only pastored stupid people, cause they did it.
Of course, he lost his church and his flock and had several lawsuits against him...
Seems to me they did the same thing in Thessalonica... Paul had to tell them to go back to work at McDonalds and wait for His coming there. :D
Revelationist
07-27-2008, 08:51 PM
I still have the Prophecy Digest books....LOL! I think there were four of them, and I have one of the 1988 reasons why Jesus is returning in 1988, or something like that.
Pretty funny reading now, but wow, was it scary 20-25 years ago!
15 years ago, this one will be funny to. While there are a lot here saying, I dont' know right now....
HeavenlyOne
07-28-2008, 02:33 PM
Seems to me they did the same thing in Thessalonica... Paul had to tell them to go back to work at McDonalds and wait for His coming there. :D
LOL!
Ok, splain that one. I've been working non-stop since last Monday!!
tbpew
07-28-2008, 02:53 PM
It is certainly presumptuous that we can prognosticate about the day or the hour, afterall, even the SON testifies that neither he, nor the angels, knows the day nor the hour...
But of that day and [that] hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. [Mk 13:32]
But the scripture provides a very plain admonition describing the thoughts in the heart of the evil servant:
But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
because of this kind of heart thinking, the evil servant goes and:
And shall begin to smite [his] fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
resulting in the evil servant being completely unaware of his Lord's return:
The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for [him], and in an hour that he is not aware of,
and the evil servant's Lord shall bring judgement upon the evil servant in the form of"
And shall cut him asunder, and appoint [him] his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
So, what should our watchfulness include? Very few, if any of us, will be able to consistently say (in our hearts), that our Lord's return could be today, for 1 year, 5 years, 10 years or more.
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