Question about marriage

[franklyn4]

Can someone please explain to me why it was that God "tolerated" polygamy in the OT? In the NT Jesus clearly dealt with this issue (marriage is between 1 man & 1 woman), but i always wondered why God never told the patriarchs of the OT to stick to one gal. (I mean with all those prophets walking around you would think God would have text message, faxed or IM one of them to relay the message :jolly)

Multiple wives was obviously culturally excepted and the norm in OT times, but when you have Godly men in the OT involved with practices that are culturally accepted but wrong in biblical principle, you have to wonder why did God "tolerate" it.

What do you guys think? :snapout

[scotty]

To replenish the earth and multiply

[Digging4Truth]

Please provide the scriptures where Jesus dealt with polygamy.

[franklyn4]

Please provide the scriptures where Jesus dealt with polygamy.
You are you kidding me?

[Digging4Truth]

You are you kidding me?

No. Not kidding.

I just want to make sure i am seeing the scriptures you are seeing and what they say.

[franklyn4]

No. Not kidding.

I just want to make sure i am seeing the scriptures you are seeing and what they say.

Matt 19:4-6 (NASB)
4 And He answered and said, "Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE,
5 and said, 'FOR THIS REASON A MAN SHALL LEAVE HIS FATHER AND MOTHER AND BE JOINED TO HIS WIFE, AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH'?
6 "So they are no longer two, but one flesh..."

From the "beginning" marriage consisted of only "TWO" people. Both from the opposite sex. If you add another person(s) (male/female) to the mix, the definition of marriage as depicted from the "beginning" changes.
Secondly Jesus didnt say that a man must leave his father and mother and cling to his WIVES.

[franklyn4]

To replenish the earth and multiply

So let me get this straight. I can have as many wives as i can to reproduce if I lived back in the days of Abraham, but once there is enough humans then its wrong to take more than one wife? Come on! Show me were God said to stop reproducing and replenishing the earth.

In setting up guidelines for leadership in the church the bishop, deacon and elders all have one qualification in common, they have to have ONE WIFE (I tim 3:2,12, Titus 1:6). Polygamy was a concern so much so that the apostle thought its restriction had to be apart of the guidelines for leadership. Was the earth not replenished enough in Paul's day?

[scotty]

I just threw that in there bro..,. I dont have a clue.

Just being me :christmoose

[Pressing-On]

To replenish the earth and multiply

I just threw that in there bro..,. I dont have a clue.

Just being me :christmoose

Scotty,
I have actually read, don't have my source, but they had multiple wives as a way of "enlarging their tents". I could see that as the largest tribes would rule.

Maybe someone has some info on that side of it.

[Digging4Truth]

Matt 19:4-6 (NASB)
4 And He answered and said, "Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE,
5 and said, 'FOR THIS REASON A MAN SHALL LEAVE HIS FATHER AND MOTHER AND BE JOINED TO HIS WIFE, AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH'?
6 "So they are no longer two, but one flesh..."

From the "beginning" marriage consisted of only "TWO" people. Both from the opposite sex. If you add another person(s) (male/female) to the mix, the definition of marriage as depicted from the "beginning" changes.
Secondly Jesus didnt say that a man must leave his father and mother and cling to his WIVES.

Hmmm... It doesn't seem to me that this was the intent of these scriptures. One could take particular words and infer that they had a meaning beyond the original intent but I don't see it as a specific verbage set out to define or even deal with this subject.

What do you think about the scripture that says that deacons should be the husband of one wife.

To you, does that seem to state that having more than one wife was a common or known practice during the time of the apostles?

I am not a polygamist and I have no intention or desire to be one either. But I just don't see where the Bible ever condemns the act. Some of the most well known characters in the Bible had more than one wife.

I think that, in our day and age, we have moved past that and for one to be a polygamist in this day and age (especially since you may be looking at jail time) wouldn't be good.

But I don't see, myself, where the Bible specifically out against the practice.

[franklyn4]

Hmmm... It doesn't seem to me that this was the intent of these scriptures. One could take particular words and infer that they had a meaning beyond the original intent but I don't see it as a specific verbage set out to define or even deal with this subject.
I respectfully disagree. The context of the verse in Matthew was regarding divorce. In dealing with divorce, Jesus went all the way to the beginning, referencing God's original intent and principle. God's intent from the beginning was for marriage to be between 1 man and 1 woman and by going back to God's original design, Jesus in his response rules out any other concepts of marriage (gay marriage and polygamy).

[Theresa]

Can someone please explain to me why it was that God "tolerated" polygamy in the OT? In the NT Jesus clearly dealt with this issue (marriage is between 1 man & 1 woman), but i always wondered why God never told the patriarchs of the OT to stick to one gal. (I mean with all those prophets walking around you would think God would have text message, faxed or IM one of them to relay the message :jolly)

Multiple wives was obviously culturally excepted and the norm in OT times, but when you have Godly men in the OT involved with practices that are culturally accepted but wrong in biblical principle, you have to wonder why did God "tolerate" it.

What do you guys think? :snapout

the Cross took care of a multitude of things.....



including the "multiple wives" insanity LOL


could you imagine in these times?

oh

dear

Lord

help

us

please!





ROFL

[scotty]

the Cross took care of a multitude of things.....



including the "multiple wives" insanity LOL


could you imagine in these times?

oh

dear

Lord

help

us

please!





ROFL

yup , I can barely handle the one I got...don't know what I would do with another one !

[Theresa]

yup , I can barely handle the one I got...don't know what I would do with another one !

I couldnt imagine.

[Pressing-On]

The first two recorded polygamists in the Bible:

A murderer - Lamech (Gen 4:23-24).

Esau who despised his birthright and grieved his parents (Gen 26:34).

Food for thought, Digging! :D

[Pressing-On]

yup , I can barely handle the one I got...don't know what I would do with another one !

Just think if she threw your hats away!!! :toofunny

[franklyn4]

The first two recorded polygamists in the Bible:

A murderer - Lamech (Gen 4:23-24).

Esau who despised his birthright and grieved his parents (Gen 26:34).

Food for thought, Digging! :D

LOL!

[Pressing-On]

What about Deut 17:17?

"Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold."

God is forbidding the kings of Israel from having multiple wives.

[Theresa]

The first two recorded polygamists in the Bible:

A murderer - Lamech (Gen 4:23-24).

Esau who despised his birthright and grieved his parents (Gen 26:34).

Food for thought, Digging! :D

did God really condone this activity? Or I should say, did he encourage it? Or did was this just another practice they started all on their own?

Seems to me the Children of israel were quite a handful for the Lord back then...much like we are now.

[Pressing-On]

did God really condone this activity? Or I should say, did he encourage it? Or did was this just another practice they started all on their own?

Seems to me the Children of israel were quite a handful for the Lord back then...much like we are now.

They say when you study a particular subject, go back to where the subject originates in the Bible, so we start with Lamech.

[Theresa]

What about Deut 17:17?

"Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold."

God is forbidding the kings of Israel from having multiple wives.

I think the children of israel did a lot of stuff that wasnt sanctioned by God nor of his doing...you know? then some of that could have been "custom" and maybe the practice of taking wives wasnt the same as having a wife now....it wasnt the whole "2 shall be one" arrangement.

Mathmatically it wouldnt work LOL

[Pressing-On]

I think the children of israel did a lot of stuff that wasnt sanctioned by God nor of his doing...you know? then some of that could have been "custom" and maybe the practice of taking wives wasnt the same as having a wife now....it wasnt the whole "2 shall be one" arrangement.

Mathmatically it wouldnt work LOL
Look at the trouble Solomon got himself into?

[franklyn4]

did God really condone this activity? Or I should say, did he encourage it? Or did was this just another practice they started all on their own?
I always wondered why God was silent on some cultural issues in the OT that we know clearly violated his word?:confused:

[scotty]

I couldnt imagine.

stand her in the corner and look at her :jolly

[scotty]

Just think if she threw your hats away!!! :toofunny

nope , she bugs me cause I dont wear them much anymore..

[Pressing-On]

I always wondered why God was silent on some cultural issues in the OT that we know clearly violated his word?:confused:

I would think it was on the same premise as Matthew 19:8 "He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so."

[Pressing-On]

nope , she bugs me cause I dont wear them much anymore..
:toofunny TOUCHE' :toofunny

[franklyn4]

I think the children of israel did a lot of stuff that wasnt sanctioned by God nor of his doing...you know? then some of that could have been "custom" and maybe the practice of taking wives wasnt the same as having a wife now

When God gave Abraham the instructions on circumcision why didnt he just drop in the line, "Dude, you can only have one girl at a time." It would have saved Jacob a lot of time working for his second wife ya know.

[Theresa]

I always wondered why God was silent on some cultural issues in the OT that we know clearly violated his word?:confused:


much like now days?

I think he let them make their own choices. They had been taught, they had the ability to make better choices, they just didnt.

Even under the law I think He let them make their own mistakes

[Theresa]

When God gave Abraham the instructions on circumcision why didnt he just drop in the line, "Dude, you can only have one girl at a time." It would have saved Jacob a lot of time working for his second wife ya know.

you know, you think sometimes that your children will just KNOW and make the right choice - you dont really expect to have to spell it out for them.

then again wives was a cultural thing, much like posessions more than spousal units..you know?

we are thinking about wives in the same sense a man has a wife now - In actuality I think having more than one wife back then was about like having more than one camel - only less profitable LOL

[franklyn4]

much like now days?

I think he let them make their own choices. They had been taught, they had the ability to make better choices, they just didnt.

Even under the law I think He let them make their own mistakes
Yes, but polygamy was going on before the law was given.

[Theresa]

Yes, but polygamy was going on before the law was given.

I dont think God had anything to do with the origination of the practice. you know?

[franklyn4]

you know, you think sometimes that your children will just KNOW and make the right choice - you dont really expect to have to spell it out for them.

then again wives was a cultural thing, much like posessions more than spousal units..you know?

we are thinking about wives in the same sense a man has a wife now - In actuality I think having more than one wife back then was about like having more than one camel - only less profitable LOL
:heeheehee

[Theresa]

:heeheehee

not to mention how much easier a bunch of smelly, spitting camels are over a tent full of WOMEN.

at least camels arent hormonal ROFL

[franklyn4]

I dont think God had anything to do with the origination of the practice. you know?
i never said he did.

the point i am trying to make is this: This practice was going on and was accepted. When men of God participated in this practice there was no one there (priest/prophet) to say, hey, you cant have x amount wives. Godly men participated in this practice as well.

[Theresa]

i never said he did.

the point i am trying to make is this: This practice was going on and was accepted. When men of God participated in this practice there was no one there (priest/prophet) to say, hey, you cant have x amount wives. Godly men participated in this practice as well.

oh, I know you didnt say it - I just think he let them make their own decisions.

Even then he didnt spell out every single detail of their lives - I guess He figured a man taking on a tent full of women would learn soon enough LOL

[Digging4Truth]

oh, I know you didnt say it - I just think he let them make their own decisions.

Even then he didnt spell out every single detail of their lives - I guess He figured a man taking on a tent full of women would learn soon enough LOL

The wisest man didn't. LOL

700 wives and 300 girlfriends on the side.

:)

[Theresa]

The wisest man didn't. LOL

700 wives and 300 girlfriends on the side.

:)

even smart men are stupid in some matters. ROFL

I'm talking "no sense to come in out of the rain" but they can build a rocket from duct tape and paper clips

LOL

[franklyn4]

Even then he didnt spell out every single detail of their lives - I guess He figured a man taking on a tent full of women would learn soon enough LOL
You have to be pretty crazy to want a tent full of women. but then again back then women had no rights and did what they were told. there was no such things as womens rights. it would have really stunk to be a woman back then.

[franklyn4]

The wisest man didn't. LOL

700 wives and 300 girlfriends on the side.

:)
makes you wonder if Solomon really deserves that title?

[Digging4Truth]

You have to be pretty crazy to want a tent full of women. but then again back then women had no rights and did what they were told. there was no such things as womens rights. it would have really stunk to be a woman back then.

Yeah... no fancy perfumes either. :)

[Theresa]

You have to be pretty crazy to want a tent full of women. but then again back then women had no rights and did what they were told. there was no such things as womens rights. it would have really stunk to be a woman back then.

women were no more than the animals back then - they served a purpose - to breed - they just talked back, or actually talked amongst themselves

Could you imagine having a tent full of women to tend to?

chickens, horses, cows, those things I can get my mind around...but women?

and you have to wonder why they lived so long back then LOL

[franklyn4]

i know some men who honestly believe that women in the OT were more "submissive" than women of today. But i think you can get anyone to submit if the threat of stoning is hanging over their head. Plus i think it speaks to some guys control issues as well when they want a "submissive" woman.

[Digging4Truth]

Plus i think it speaks to some guys control issues as well when they want a "submissive" woman.

Really?...


Col 3:18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.

[Theresa]

i know some men who honestly believe that women in the OT were more "submissive" than women of today. But i think you can get anyone to submit if the threat of stoning is hanging over their head. Plus i think it speaks to some guys control issues as well when they want a "submissive" woman.


I doubt this..LOL

[franklyn4]

Really?...


Col 3:18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
I have been around church long enough to see guys who want a wife that will do what they say and if they express a different opinion or refuse their wishes they label their wife as not submissive and go run to the pastor.

There is a difference between biblical submission and subjugation.

[Trouvere]

Can someone please explain to me why it was that God "tolerated" polygamy in the OT? In the NT Jesus clearly dealt with this issue (marriage is between 1 man & 1 woman), but i always wondered why God never told the patriarchs of the OT to stick to one gal. (I mean with all those prophets walking around you would think God would have text message, faxed or IM one of them to relay the message :jolly)

Multiple wives was obviously culturally excepted and the norm in OT times, but when you have Godly men in the OT involved with practices that are culturally accepted but wrong in biblical principle, you have to wonder why did God "tolerate" it.

What do you guys think? :snapout
I think we can see the problems more than one gal caused them. It would be nice to have some other person to do the housework though.lol. but forget the man..he's mine. I am so glad our culture and society does not include plural marriages. No thanks its just gross to me. I am sure those with an adulterous heart would love a return to that.They could just justify sleeping around.

[Digging4Truth]

I have been around church long enough to see guys who want a wife that will do what they say and if they express a different opinion or refuse their wishes they label their wife as not submissive and go run to the pastor.

There is a difference between biblical submission and subjugation.

Indeed there is...

Which is why I quoted the scripture.

You used the term submissive... subjected would be a totally different thing.

[Trouvere]

women were no more than the animals back then - they served a purpose - to breed - they just talked back, or actually talked amongst themselves

Could you imagine having a tent full of women to tend to?

chickens, horses, cows, those things I can get my mind around...but women?

and you have to wonder why they lived so long back then LOL


Jacob loved Rachel and I believe that he would have been a one woman man if her dad hadn't been so sneaky.
Adam and Eve were made for each other.
God only made one woman for one man. He had the right idea. Society though rally for position and who only knows. They had this idea that the more wives and cattle and land the more power they possessed.

[jimmyrrs]

i know some men who honestly believe that women in the OT were more "submissive" than women of today. But i think you can get anyone to submit if the threat of stoning is hanging over their head. Plus i think it speaks to some guys control issues as well when they want a "submissive" woman.

My wife tells all the women in church to be very submissive to their husband. By that she means to give the big baby his way. :christmoose

[Trouvere]

You are too funny...the big baby....

[ronharvey]

The first two recorded polygamists in the Bible:

A murderer - Lamech (Gen 4:23-24).

Esau who despised his birthright and grieved his parents (Gen 26:34).

Food for thought, Digging! :D

Who was the first music man?
Who was the Angel of music?

I guess the Church of Christ know better than us to keep those devilish instruments out of our worship services; huh?

[ronharvey]

What about Deut 17:17?

"Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold."

God is forbidding the kings of Israel from having multiple wives.

They were the rulers and were supposed to be the example to the people.

[ronharvey]

I always wondered why God was silent on some cultural issues in the OT that we know clearly violated his word?:confused:

Until the law, there was no law against it.
After the Law, there still was no law against it.

[ronharvey]

you know, you think sometimes that your children will just KNOW and make the right choice - you dont really expect to have to spell it out for them.

then again wives was a cultural thing, much like posessions more than spousal units..you know?

we are thinking about wives in the same sense a man has a wife now - In actuality I think having more than one wife back then was about like having more than one camel - only less profitable LOL

Actually you were producing and training your own labor.

In the long run, it would make you money if managed correctly.

[ronharvey]

You have to be pretty crazy to want a tent full of women. but then again back then women had no rights and did what they were told. there was no such things as womens rights. it would have really stunk to be a woman back then.

-In reality, each wife was given a tent for each wife and her children.
The tent in which meetings took place was his.

[ronharvey]

I have been around church long enough to see guys who want a wife that will do what they say and if they express a different opinion or refuse their wishes they label their wife as not submissive and go run to the pastor.

There is a difference between biblical submission and subjugation.

Boo Hoo!
She beats me up!
Boo Hoo hoo!

Pastor: Come Brother Boo, let's see what my wife, the real pastor has to say.
Brother Boo: Who?

[Digging4Truth]

There are so many great posts to respond to RonHarvey....

Just suffice it to say.... You are on a roll brother.... on a roll. :)

[Michlow]

you know, you think sometimes that your children will just KNOW and make the right choice - you dont really expect to have to spell it out for them.

then again wives was a cultural thing, much like posessions more than spousal units..you know?

we are thinking about wives in the same sense a man has a wife now - In actuality I think having more than one wife back then was about like having more than one camel - only less profitable LOL

But doesn't that bring up another question then? If we are not asking why God allowed polygamy, maybe we should be asking why God allowed (approved?) of women being treated as inferior chattel?

[ronharvey]

But doesn't that bring up another question then? If we are not asking why God allowed polygamy, maybe we should be asking why God allowed (approved?) of women being treated as inferior chattel?

They weren't,

God gave strict rules against ill treatment and protection to the woman against sored husbands.

The woman was the greatest possession the man could have. That is why adultery is based on the married status of the WOMAN, not the man of the two involved parties.

Don't look at the way the heathen treated their women and lump them in the same basket with God's people.

Look at the law of God protecting the unborn child, think the vessel that carried it was less thought of?

Look at the law of God concerning women who had no brothers to inherit their father's promised possessions; did God forsake them? No, in such case God made the sisters equal to a father's son.

God's Law regulated the inheritance code of a man who had more than one wife. A man who loved his second wife more than his first could not place the favored son of the second wife above the less desired son of the first wife. This law was based on the Patric Jacob and his wives; Leah and Rachel.

[Michlow]

They weren't,

God gave strict rules against ill treatment and protection to the woman against sored husbands.

The woman was the greatest possession the man could have. That is why adultery is based on the married status of the WOMAN, not the man of the two involved parties.

Don't look at the way the heathen treated their women and lump them in the same basket with God's people.

Look at the law of God protecting the unborn child, think the vessel that carried it was less thought of?

Look at the law of God concerning women who had no brothers to inherit their father's promised possessions; did God forsake them? No, in such case God made the sisters equal to a father's son.

God's Law regulated the inheritance code of a man who had more than one wife. A man who loved his second wife more than his first could not place the favored son of the second wife above the less desired son of the first wife. This law was based on the Patric Jacob and his wives; Leah and Rachel.

I Confess...

The Feminist in me didn't get past the part where you called woman, man's greatest possession

Beyond that, if a man only had one wife, he wouldn't need to worry about loving one more than the other.

Though I called myself a feminist, I'm not really, I consider myself to be an egalitarian, and so therefore, if men should be able to have multiple wives, then women should be able to have multiple husbands.

The problem of course is that women are sensible, and one husband is often trial enough ;)

ETA: I just noticed this was in the Deep Waters section! My bad! I usually don't post in this area as, my objections to the Bible make me a little out of place in this area. I now will slink away and return to the frivolous discussions I am much more comfortable with, LOL

[Timmy]

Mawage. Mawage is what bwings us togethaaah today. Mawage. That bwessed awangement, that dweam within a dweam.

(Sorry, nothing of any importance to add to the topic. Nothing else, I should say. ;))

[Pressing-On]

Mawage. Mawage is what bwings us togethaaah today. Mawage. That bwessed awangement, that dweam within a dweam.

(Sorry, nothing of any importance to add to the topic. Nothing else, I should say. ;))

:toofunny :toofunny :toofunny :toofunny :toofunny

The Princess Bride!

I hope Stew sees this!

:toofunny

[Timmy]

OK, one more:

Wuv, twu wuv, will fowwow you forevaaah....

[Timmy]

:toofunny :toofunny :toofunny :toofunny :toofunny

The Princess Bride!

I hope Stew sees this!

:toofunny

Best. Movie. Ever.

Called my son from Hawaii once. He's a big fan, too. Knows the entire script, just about. So he answers, and I say "Maui! Maui is what bwings us togethah..."

He was on the floor! :toofunny :toofunny :toofunny

[Pressing-On]

OK, one more:

Wuv, twu wuv, will fowwow you forevaaah....

:toofunny :toofunny :toofunny :toofunny

It's one of those shots that you keep rewinding!!!!

:toofunny

[Pressing-On]

Best. Movie. Ever.

Called my son from Hawaii once. He's a big fan, too. Knows the entire script, just about. So he answers, and I say "Maui! Maui is what bwings us togethah..."

He was on the floor! :toofunny :toofunny :toofunny

Both of my kids are very good at impersonating! You should hear them - hilarious!!!!

[Timmy]

He's been in the hospital since last Friday, and every time I get up to leave, I pat my pockets, take off my glasses, etc. Then, just yesterday, The Princess Bride was on TV, and we watched that very scene! Too cool!

[Timmy]

:toofunny :toofunny :toofunny :toofunny

It's one of those shots that you keep rewinding!!!!

:toofunny

Has anyone here not seen that movie?

Inconceivable!

[Pressing-On]

He's been in the hospital since last Friday, and every time I get up to leave, I pat my pockets, take off my glasses, etc. Then, just yesterday, The Princess Bride was on TV, and we watched that very scene! Too cool!

Your son is in the hospital? Is he doing okay?

I PM'd Stew so he wouldn't miss these posts! Too hilarious!!! We referenced the marriage scene in another thread a while back, that's why I PM'd him. LOL

[Pressing-On]

Has anyone here not seen that movie?

Inconceivable!

:toofunny :toofunny :toofunny

We have the movie! :toofunny

[Timmy]

Your son is in the hospital? Is he doing okay?

I PM'd Stew so he wouldn't miss these posts! Too hilarious!!! We referenced the marriage scene in another thread a while back, that's why I PM'd him. LOL

Ulcerative Colitis. Might come home today, but not sure it's time yet. He gets flare-ups that put him in the hospital every couple of years or so.

[Pressing-On]

Ulcerative Colitis. Might come home today, but not sure it's time yet. He gets flare-ups that put him in the hospital every couple of years or so.

Well, I pray he gets to come home!!!!

I hope you have a very happy, blessed and :merrychristmas

[Digging4Truth]

Ulcerative Colitis. Might come home today, but not sure it's time yet. He gets flare-ups that put him in the hospital every couple of years or so.

Some natural things that might help with Ulcerative Colitis... (http://altmedicine.about.com/od/digestivedisorders/a/Colitis_Remedy.htm)

[Pressing-On]

Some natural things that might help with Ulcerative Colitis... (http://altmedicine.about.com/od/digestivedisorders/a/Colitis_Remedy.htm)

Acidolphous is great. Must be the refrigerated kind - that's the best. I scanned the link and didn't see it mentioned. My son even took this when he went through a stage of his face breaking out. Totally took care of that problem.

[Timmy]

Some natural things that might help with Ulcerative Colitis... (http://altmedicine.about.com/od/digestivedisorders/a/Colitis_Remedy.htm)

Thanks!

[Timmy]

Acidolphous is great. I scanned the link and didn't see it mentioned. My son even took this when he went through a stage of his face breaking out. Totally took care of that problem.

Hmm. Haven't heard that one before, in context of UC anyway. Is that in yogurt? He does eat that quite a bit.

(Wow, what a hijack! :jolly)

[Digging4Truth]

Acidolphous is great. Must be the refrigerated kind - that's the best. I scanned the link and didn't see it mentioned. My son even took this when he went through a stage of his face breaking out. Totally took care of that problem.

Yeah... the link was only one of many...

When one Google's Natural Remedy Ulcerative Colitis there is plenty of information that comes up.

Thanks for adding more info..

[Timmy]

He's coming home today. Mixed feelings about that. Still a lot of pain, not responding to meds.

[Pressing-On]

Hmm. Haven't heard that one before, in context of UC anyway. Is that in yogurt? He does eat that quite a bit.

(Wow, what a hijack! :jolly)

Yes, it is. But, it must be the plain yogurt.

They have tons of flavored yogurt on the shelves. If you read the back, it has the same amount of sugar as a can of soda water - stupid!

[Pressing-On]

He's coming home today. Mixed feelings about that. Still a lot of pain, not responding to meds.

Probably because the meds can't heal him. They only try to eliminate the pain. I would do the Acidolphous. It puts the friendly bacteria back into your body. Anytime you take an anti-biotic, it kills the friendly bacteria in your body. The only way to put it back is by taking Acidolphous.

[Timmy]

Yes, it is. But, it must be the plain yogurt.

They have tons of flavored yogurt on the shelves. If you read the back, it has the same amount of sugar as a can of soda water - stupid!

True. But I doubt he could stomach the plain!

Would acidophilus milk work?

Probably because the meds can't heal him. They only try to eliminate the pain. I would do the Acidolphous. It puts the friendly bacteria back into your body. Anytime you take an anti-biotic, it kills the friendly bacteria in your body. The only way to put it back is by taking Acidolphous.

He's on other meds to reduce the inflammation (they may be working, but it's a slow process). Hasn't had antibiotics in a long time.

[tstew]

Mawage. Mawage is what bwings us togethaaah today. Mawage. That bwessed awangement, that dweam within a dweam.

(Sorry, nothing of any importance to add to the topic. Nothing else, I should say. ;))

:christmoose:christmoose:christmoose

There is only one Timmy :)

The funny thing is that just day before yesterday I happened to catch the marriage scene for the first time in a long time. Classic.

[Traci]

Timmy, you can buy acidolphous in capsule form. I know some people with colon problems don't handle dairy products very well. (me)

[Pressing-On]

True. But I doubt he could stomach the plain!

Would acidophilus milk work?


Timmy, you can buy acidolphous in capsule form. I know some people with colon problems don't handle dairy products very well. (me)

I would do the capsules, Timmy.

[Pressing-On]

The first two recorded polygamists in the Bible:

A murderer - Lamech (Gen 4:23-24).

Esau who despised his birthright and grieved his parents (Gen 26:34).

Food for thought, Digging! :D

Who was the first music man?
Who was the Angel of music?

I guess the Church of Christ know better than us to keep those devilish instruments out of our worship services; huh?

First of all, Mr. Smarty Pants - I posted that to Digging as a joke, in part - notice the Smilie! :thwak That means that I'm not setting that in stone.

They were the rulers and were supposed to be the example to the people.

So, if they are to be the "example" then what does that tell us about polygamy?

[ronharvey]

First of all, Mr. Smarty Pants - I posted that to Digging as a joke, in part - notice the Smilie! :thwak That means that I'm not setting that in stone.



So, if they are to be the "example" then what does that tell us about polygamy?

I had to check my slacks for their degree. :highfive

I am aware it was intended as a side mouth expression. :santaclaus
jest joining in the conversation. :christmoose

That those in power don't need their attention diverted? :santathumb

[Pressing-On]

I had to check my slacks for their degree. :highfive

I am aware it was intended as a side mouth expression. :santaclaus
jest joining in the conversation. :christmoose

That those in power don't need their attention diverted? :santathumb
Sure, I believe you were kidding. :christmoose

[ronharvey]

Sure, I believe you were kidding. :christmoose

Don't read between the lines, they are double spaced :santathumb

[Timmy]

Timmy, you can buy acidolphous in capsule form. I know some people with colon problems don't handle dairy products very well. (me)

I would do the capsules, Timmy.

Thanks, we'll look into it.

Didn't come home today after all, which I think is best, given his condition. His gastroenterologist overturned the discharge, when he found out about it. ;)

[Timmy]

He's having his colon removed today.

[Timmy]

He's having his colon removed today.

And it was a success! He's in quite a bit of pain, but I guess it's expected. Meds are helping, and he's got a button to push for that! Man, what will they think of next?

OK. End of hijack! :lol

[Praxeas]

i know some men who honestly believe that women in the OT were more "submissive" than women of today. But i think you can get anyone to submit if the threat of stoning is hanging over their head. Plus i think it speaks to some guys control issues as well when they want a "submissive" woman.
they WERE more submissive....back then you got what you paid for :thebunny

[rava61]

"Tolerate" is the key word here for it was never acceptable to God: Jesus clarified that when He said, "from the beginning it was not so" (dealing with the issue of divorce and remarriage).

RV