Denim skirts out of blue jeans at UPC seminar

[freeatlast]

I just went to a 2 day mini conference held at a UPC church.

One of the break out sessions was "how to make jean skirts out of blue jeans"

I asked if it was a serious class and was assured that it was.

You thoughts?

[Cindy]

You can make purses and stuff too.

[Mrs. LPW]

What's there to comment about?
I can't sew.

[ChTatum]

I just went to a 2 day mini conference held at a UPC church.

One of the break out sessions was "how to make jean skirts out of blue jeans"

I asked if it was a serious class and was assured that it was.

You thoughts?

Bless God, it's just like that lottery money.....the devil has used it long enough, it's time for God's people to get some use out of it too!:nutso

[Arphaxad]

If skirts are made out of pants are they transgender?he he ha ha :slaphappy

ARPH:doggyrun

[Cindy]

If skirts are made out of pants are they transgender?he he ha ha :slaphappy

ARPH:doggyrun

:lol

[freeatlast]

What's there to comment about?
I can't sew.

maybe it's just me...my wife has one or two denim skirts. I've never been a big fan.

I do not see any scripture to tell a women she can't wear pants.

But it blows my mind that the UC that demand dresses only on women will allow an article of clothing that argue is "pertaining to a man" to be cut and resewn in a different fassion and "Shazam" the "abomination" as they say, is gone.

[Mrs. LPW]

maybe it's just me...my wife has one or two denim skirts. I've never been a big fan.

I do not see any scripture to tell a women she can't wear pants.

But it blows my mind that the UC that demand dresses only on women will allow an article of clothing that argue is "pertaining to a man" to be cut and resewn in a different fassion and "Shazam" the "abomination" as they say, is gone.

I think we all know it's the dividing of the garment that is the issue.

Oh I may as well take it another step further.
Is it the Jean you're not a fan of, or the skirt?
Since many of my friends who are not of my Pentecostal persuasion love thier jeans and wear them as much as possible.



Arph, :spit

[Cindy]

maybe it's just me...my wife has one or two denim skirts. I've never been a big fan.

I do not see any scripture to tell a women she can't wear pants.

But it blows my mind that the UC that demand dresses only on women will allow an article of clothing that argue is "pertaining to a man" to be cut and resewn in a different fassion and "Shazam" the "abomination" as they say, is gone.

Oh okay, got it. I think you are kind of overreacting.

[freeatlast]

In a place I use to work at, the men would shake their head in disbelief at some of "our women" when they came in blue denim jean skirts and tennis shoes.

Someone would usally inform me that some bun ladies were on the floor and ask if I wanted to wait on them?

[Cindy]

In a place I use to work at, the men would shake their head in disbelief at some of "our women" when they came in blue denim jean skirts and tennis shoes.

Someone would usally inform me that some bun ladies were on the floor and ask if I wanted to wait on them?

What is really the point of this? There are rude people everywhere. It's sad.

[freeatlast]

I think we all know it's the dividing of the garment that is the issue.

Oh I may as well take it another step further.
Is it the Jean you're not a fan of, or the skirt?
Since many of my friends who are not of my Pentecostal persuasion love thier jeans and wear them as much as possible.



Arph, :spit

what do you mean by the dividing of the garment?

they divided Christs garments.

[Hoovie]

Seminar Title: More Than One Way to Get in a Man's Pants!

[freeatlast]

I guess my point is, and apologize for my offensivness, My point is we demand dresses only to show our separation and our holiness.

Yes, Mrs. LPW It's the jeans skirt i am not a fan of.

I have no problem with skirts in general, I just see jean skirts as a "not quite up to par witness"

OK you can shoot me now.

[freeatlast]

Seminar Title: More Than One Way to Get in a Man's Pants!

That would have filled th class for sure steve. ;-)

[Mrs. LPW]

In a place I use to work at, the men would shake their head in disbelief at some of "our women" when they came in blue denim jean skirts and tennis shoes.

Someone would usally inform me that some bun ladies were on the floor and ask if I wanted to wait on them?

Cindy's right. There are rude people everywhere.

Do you even realize how many dowdy looking women there are wearing pants out there? My word man... wake up. There are dowdy looking people in the Weslyan church down the street from ours. There are dowdy looking people in my church, and there are men who look just as dowdy as women.
I look dowdy right now with my hair down around my face.

Get over it. Whether a person is fashionable or not is unimportant.

That said, there are people in my church who are not dowdy, do not wear jean skirts continually and do not wear tennis shoes and bobby socks with their skirts.

I personally don't care how fashionable someone is. I care if they are clean and sensible and Christ-like. You can wear a dress down to your ankles in the shower and still have a nasty attitude. You can look like you've just walked off the pages of People Magazine and still have a nasty attitude.

So again I ask, is it the jean you're not a fan of, or the skirt itself?

[Mrs. LPW]

I guess my point is, and apologize for my offensivness, My point is we demand dresses only to show our separation and our holiness.

Yes, Mrs. LPW It's the jeans skirt i am not a fan of.

I have no problem with skirts in general, I just see jean skirts as a "not quite up to par witness"

OK you can shoot me now.

So would a pair of jeans also be "not quite up to par"?

[freeatlast]

According the "official" interpretion of Duet 22:5 Denim was a material made a designed for men that worked in harsh conditions. The material held well. Denim is definetly a material that "pertains to men"

But yet in our churches it's like a ladies uniform.

It's the inconsistency of our standards that irks me, on the issues of what a woman can wear.

[RandyWayne]

Doesn't the Word say, "By their blue skirts you will know them"?
Time to repost a picture of the first female apostolic astronaut:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w113/RandyWayneD/Misc%20pics%20for%20posting%20on%20other%20sites/SpaceWalkerUPC.jpg

[freeatlast]

Cindy's right. There are rude people everywhere.

Do you even realize how many dowdy looking women there are wearing pants out there? My word man... wake up. There are dowdy looking people in the Weslyan church down the street from ours. There are dowdy looking people in my church, and there are men who look just as dowdy as women.
I look dowdy right now with my hair down around my face.

Get over it. Whether a person is fashionable or not is unimportant.

That said, there are people in my church who are not dowdy, do not wear jean skirts continually and do not wear tennis shoes and bobby socks with their skirts.

I personally don't care how fashionable someone is. I care if they are clean and sensible and Christ-like. You can wear a dress down to your ankles in the shower and still have a nasty attitude. You can look like you've just walked off the pages of People Magazine and still have a nasty attitude.

So again I ask, is it the jean you're not a fan of, or the skirt itself?

Asked and answered mamm, I could care less weather you wear slacks or dress or skirts......I ME it's just ME that i can't stand the jean skirt bobby sox and sneakers look that I see as I walk thru WalMart.

and most of these women at WalMart are not "our folks". We have a Bible Missionary College" here and those folks are more screwed up than us on standards issues

[Cindy]

According the "official" interpretion of Duet 22:5 Denim was a material made a designed for men that worked in harsh conditions. The material held well. Denim is definetly a material that "pertains to men"

But yet in our churches it's like a ladies uniform.

It's the inconsistency of our standards that irks me, on the issues of what a woman can wear.

I don't wear denim skirts, but I don't have a problem with others doing so. But I don't find material a standard issue either.

[freeatlast]

So would a pair of jeans also be "not quite up to par"?

Well they do look better with white sox and tennis shoes that wearing a dress with sneakers.

[Arphaxad]

Doesn't the Word say, "By their blue skirts you will know them"?
Time to repost a picture of the first female apostolic astronaut:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w113/RandyWayneD/Misc%20pics%20for%20posting%20on%20other%20sites/SpaceWalkerUPC.jpg




:yourock

You're a funny guy, Pauly.



ARPH:doggyrun

[freeatlast]

I don't wear denim skirts, but I don't have a problem with others doing so. But I don't find material a standard issue either.

Welll just a couple verses wawy from Duet 22:5 is a verse tha deals with "materials". of course we just skip over that one, in fact we do as Paul instructed us and skip over 612 of the 613 laws of the Torah.

But for some reason 50 years some preacher thought he had license to aplly one of those laws to our women and make it a part of the gospel.

[Mrs. LPW]

Well they do look better with white sox and tennis shoes that wearing a dress with sneakers.

So that scripture you quoted...

What is it going to be? Fashion or Bible, both or neither?

I'd really love to know what purpose you had in mind when you posted this thread? To tick me off? For some reason my fuse is short tonight and I actually had a great day. Guess I'm just not in the mood to be insulted.

[Cindy]

Welll just a couple verses wawy from Duet 22:5 is a verse tha deals with "materials". of course we just skip over that one, in fact we do as Paul instructed us and skip over 612 of the 613 laws of the Torah.

But for some reason 50 years some preacher thought he had license to aplly one of those laws to our women and make it a part of the gospel.

I am not skipping over anything. I just don't have a problem with this as much as you apparently do. I don't force outward standards on people.

[RandyWayne]

:yourock

You're a funny guy, Pauly.



ARPH:doggyrun

My "inspiration" for this was the times we, as a youth group, went downhill skiing and all the girls/young ladies wore jean skirts over their snow pants. It was not a witness... it just looked dumb.

[Mrs. LPW]

I'll never understand why we can't get over what other Christians do and be about the business of winning souls. Leave it for God and thier pastors.

[Sister Alvear]

I seldom wear jean skirts but have no feelings against them...in fact some are real cute on my skinny daughter in laws...

[freeatlast]

So that scripture you quoted...

What is it going to be? Fashion or Bible, both or neither?

I'd really love to know what purpose you had in mind when you posted this thread? To tick me off? For some reason my fuse is short tonight and I actually had a great day. Guess I'm just not in the mood to be insulted.

Sorry, if I'd a known that i would have just continued to lurk.

I was just curious about this class originally, if this is a class that is offered at other conferences.

The break out session was SERIOSLY entitled, : "making denim skirts out blue jeans"

anybody else been to a class like this or some other "off the wall" class at a seminar?

[RandyWayne]

I guess I could care less about jean skirts other than it is just THE look (along with the 'poof') that has been adopted to let the world know that you (if you are of the female persuasion) are part of THE Church.

The follow up question is always, but what if you are a guy????? I guess "we" just have to let the fruits be love and compassion.

[Cindy]

Welll just a couple verses wawy from Duet 22:5 is a verse tha deals with "materials". of course we just skip over that one, in fact we do as Paul instructed us and skip over 612 of the 613 laws of the Torah.

But for some reason 50 years some preacher thought he had license to aplly one of those laws to our women and make it a part of the gospel.

So you're not against women wearing denim, but preacher's preaching it is suddenly okay after 50 years of preaching it wasn't?

[Tina]

Have you ever seen a skirt that has been made from a pair of jeans? They are actually decent looking skirts.

I have scrub pants converted to skirts to wear to work. I don't like the scrub skirts because they make my hips look even wider than they already are. The skirts I have made from the scrub pants are more flattering. Believe it or not. In fact, ALL of the pentecostal ladies who work where I am employed prefer the skirts that are made from the pants--and will pay well to have someone remake the pants into a skirt. They are just look better than regular scrub skirts.

[Mrs. LPW]

I guess I could care less about jean skirts other than it is just THE look (along with the 'poof') that has been adopted.

Randy, I'm going to do my mother proud and not say everything that has just popped into my head.

But some of the styles I have seen running around... I'd take the horrible poof and mid calf jeanskirts with bobby socks any day.

Someone put some jeans on skinny hairy man legs and a longer top over the belly fat that's hanging out over top of some women wearing thier hipster jeans.

:stop

[freeatlast]

My "inspiration" for this was the times we, as a youth group, went downhill skiing and all the girls/young ladies wore jean skirts over their snow pants. It was not a witness... it just looked dumb.

Randy, our girls were forced to do this at a church i use to attend.

My question?? how does wearing a skirt OVER the mens apparel UNABOMINATE it ??

For we are all told, according to Dt 22:5, that wearing that which pertains to a man is an abominiation.

[Tina]

Randy, I'm going to do my mother proud and not say everything that has just popped into my head.

But some of the styles I have seen running around... I'd take the horrible poof and mid calf jeanskirts with bobby socks any day.

Someone put some jeans on skinny hairy man legs and a longer top over the belly fat that's hanging out over top of some women wearing thier hipster jeans.

:stop

I agree. :D

[Cindy]

Randy, our girls were forced to do this at a church i use to attend.

My question?? how does wearing a skirt OVER the mens apparel UNABOMINATE it ??

For we are all told, according to Dt 22:5, that wearing that which pertains to a man is an abominiation.

That is just silly. I don't care who you are.

[freeatlast]

So you're not against women wearing denim, but preacher's preaching it is suddenly okay after 50 years of preaching it wasn't?

Suddenly ???

It has been nice to hear a few preachers say, I am not perfect, i was wrong on my interpretaion of the scripture in teaching you this.

But men hate to admit they wer wrong, for the most part.

[RandyWayne]

Randy, I'm going to do my mother proud and not say everything that has just popped into my head.

But some of the styles I have seen running around... I'd take the horrible poof and mid calf jeanskirts with bobby socks any day.

Someone put some jeans on skinny hairy man legs and a longer top over the belly fat that's hanging out over top of some women wearing thier hipster jeans.

:stop

LOL

My Ma (of all people) bought me some jeans and their crotch was about 6 inches below where it should be. They are not quite hip hop style but I refuse to wear them.

[Hoovie]

Randy, our girls were forced to do this at a church i use to attend.

My question?? how does wearing a skirt OVER the mens apparel UNABOMINATE it ??

For we are all told, according to Dt 22:5, that wearing that which pertains to a man is an abominiation.

My wife does not buy the abomination line, yet sees skirts as more modest and feminine. She does believe ladies should wear skirts.

[freeatlast]

Randy, I'm going to do my mother proud and not say everything that has just popped into my head.

But some of the styles I have seen running around... I'd take the horrible poof and mid calf jeanskirts with bobby socks any day.

Someone put some jeans on skinny hairy man legs and a longer top over the belly fat that's hanging out over top of some women wearing thier hipster jeans.

:stop

These are "holiness folks" you are refering to?

[Cindy]

Suddenly ???

It has been nice to hear a few preachers say, I am not perfect, i was wrong on my interpretaion of the scripture in teaching you this.

But men hate to admit they wer wrong, for the most part.

I never heard it preached against so I don't understand the problem you seem to be having with it.

[freeatlast]

My wife does not buy the abomination line, yet sees skirts as more modest and feminine. She does believe ladies should wear skirts.

Does she see this as a salvational issue in ayway way Steve?

[freeatlast]

I never heard it preached against so I don't understand the problem you seem to be having with it.

You have never heard dress only preached using Duet 22:5 as their text proof???

Surely you jset?

[Hoovie]

Does she see this as a salvational issue in ayway way Steve?

I think not since my girls wear snowsuits etc. But she does feel rather strongly about the traditional Pentecostal standards.

[Mrs. LPW]

LOL

My Ma (of all people) bought me some jeans and their crotch was about 6 inches below where it should be. They are not quite hip hop style but I refuse to wear them.

I think they should be outlawed.

[Mrs. LPW]

These are "holiness folks" you are refering to?

Not likely. :D

[Scott Hutchinson]

My teenage daughter wears converse all star tennis shoes,with blue jean skirts she likes those shoes.
I'd rather her wanting to dress like she does as opposed to alot of stuff out there she could want to wear.

[Mrs. LPW]

My teenage daughter wears converse all star tennis shoes,with blue jean skirts she likes those shoes.
I'd rather her wanting to dress like she does as opposed to alot of stuff out there she could want to wear.

Smart Dad!

I'm more than a little disturbed by what you can buy in the stores for little girls these days and am thankful God blessed me with two boys!

[RandyWayne]

My teenage daughter wears converse all star tennis shoes,with blue jean skirts she likes those shoes.
I'd rather her wanting to dress like she does as opposed to alot of stuff out there she could want to wear.

If I had a daughter, I would be every girls worst nightmare for a father when it comes to dress. A lot would depend on her physical appearance but if she WAS attractive, it would be nothing but snowmobile suits with barbed wire wrapped around it.

[freeatlast]

I think they should be outlawed.

Now you know how I feel. ;-) :statbike:

[Scott Hutchinson]

I'm not a hard-noser but I teach my girls modesty of dress,I tell them they can look nice without looking cheap.
My wife has certain convicts about dress and such but she is not holier than thou,nor does look she down on people that don't have her look.

[Mrs. LPW]

Now you know how I feel. ;-) :statbike:

Dig out the suspenders.
:treadmill:

[freeatlast]

Dig out the suspenders.
:treadmill:

No...I meant, I feel jean skirts should outlawed. I like them about as well you like baggy low rider hip hop jeans on men.

and No I don't wear them. I am soon approaching my 58th year and i don't think the look would become me.

I rarely wear shorts , dress modestly at all times, my wife almost always wears dress's and owns a couple jeans skirts which she wears to work on casual fridays.

i really am not the flameing liberal you may think me to be.

I am just amazed that they offered a class on making BDS out mens blue jeans at a UPC seminar.

[Mrs. LPW]

I can't imagine hating jeanskirts as much as belly fat hanging out over top of the low rider pants. But to each his own.

Relieved to know you don't own a pair that hangs to your knees.

[freeatlast]

]I can't imagine hating jeanskirts as much as belly fat hanging out over top of the low rider pants.[/B] But to each his own.

Relieved to know you don't own a pair that hangs to your knees.

I never implied that I did.

Belly's fat or flat I prefer to be covered, nothing to do with BDS with sneakers and booby sox.

[smurfette]

I just went to a 2 day mini conference held at a UPC church.

One of the break out sessions was "how to make jean skirts out of blue jeans"

I asked if it was a serious class and was assured that it was.

You thoughts?

I remember when the bib overalls were in style on the girls. We took those and made overall skirts. They were pretty cute.

When it comes to denim, there are ladies that wear blue jeans everyday and nobody seems to think twice about it.

I don't care for the denim skirts personally.

[pelathais]

I just went to a 2 day mini conference held at a UPC church.

One of the break out sessions was "how to make jean skirts out of blue jeans"

I asked if it was a serious class and was assured that it was.

You thoughts?
I'd recommend that you just keep your blue jeans as they are. You're fine.

[Cindy]

I'd recommend that you just keep your blue jeans as they are. You're fine.

:toofunny

[Sherri]

Denim skirts are actually a big fashion item now. I have several of them, and not because I have to wear them, because I have lots of jeans too. But I love them and they're cute with the right shoes, etc. I also have one like you're talking about - made from jeans - but I bought it from a boutique and it's fringy around the bottom. Very cute with heels! (No tennis shoes for me, thank you).

I think when you're in UPC, it's kind of a stigma, but after being gone for 17+ years, denim skirts are just cute!

[Sherri]

I never implied that I did.

Belly's fat or flat I prefer to be covered, nothing to do with BDS with sneakers and booby sox.

BOOBY sox? :gotchaNow this, we would preach against!!!

[nahkoe]

I just went to a 2 day mini conference held at a UPC church.

One of the break out sessions was "how to make jean skirts out of blue jeans"

I asked if it was a serious class and was assured that it was.

You thoughts?

I've done it before. It's fun to put in contrasting fabric. Makes fun skirts. And VERY LONG...just the way I like them. :)

[Mrs. LPW]

BOOBY sox? :gotchaNow this, we would preach against!!!

:toofunny

[Scott Hutchinson]

Ok make a skirt from shorts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAdfPwm_Okg

[Sister Alvear]

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e202/missionarylady/maranhao081.jpg

Don´t you like us in our jeans?

[Sister Alvear]

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e202/missionarylady/maranhao084.jpg

[Sister Alvear]

This forum is so funny I wore a red skirt and blouse to church the other night and in the middle of the service it dawned on me what some say about red and I was the preacher that night! lol...

[Sister Alvear]

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e202/missionarylady/maranhao077.jpg

TIM RUTLEDGE were you not over at another forum talking bad about this forum and I see you are here tonight...How come?

[Sister Alvear]

See there are many good people here too...just diverse...
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e202/missionarylady/maranhao110.jpg

[Scott Hutchinson]

I love Bishop A's hat and shades he dresses really smooth.

[Cindy]

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e202/missionarylady/maranhao081.jpg

Don´t you like us in our jeans?

Y'all look so cute and sweet.

[Sister Alvear]

I have heard preachers say Blue jeans make a woman want to be a man...well, I beg their pardon...I have worn them all my life and I have no inclining to want to be a man...I am perfectly satisfied how God made me.

[Sister Alvear]

I love Bishop A's hat and shades he dresses really smooth.
Thanks...he likes hats and shades...

[Sister Alvear]

Y'all look so cute and sweet.
thanks...
and we are very happy...

[Esther]

According the "official" interpretion of Duet 22:5 Denim was a material made a designed for men that worked in harsh conditions. The material held well. Denim is definetly a material that "pertains to men"

But yet in our churches it's like a ladies uniform.

It's the inconsistency of our standards that irks me, on the issues of what a woman can wear.

OH good grief! That is unbelievable that anyone today could believe such nonesense.

[chseeads]

Where's Bishop1????

:D

[Sister Alvear]

Dear ones, when people get off on a lot of extra biblical stuff you can mark it down something is not right. When people have all these extra biblical revelations something is missing for HIS WORD is FOREVER setttled in heaven....

[Sister Alvear]

Blue jeans have always been worn by the working man and woman because of their practicality and durability. In recent years they have become stylishly popular as people have determined that comfort can be chic! But if you need long-lasting strength, denim is your logical choice...I cannot imagine wearing anything else to the jungle other than denim or kaki´skirts...sure am not going in a lace stylish satin dress....

[Praxeas]

I have heard preachers say Blue jeans make a woman want to be a man...well, I beg their pardon...I have worn them all my life and I have no inclining to want to be a man...I am perfectly satisfied how God made me.
We had a preacher come to town once...I won't mention his name but he is well known in California...and you might figure it out if he has ever preached standards are a church any of you were in.

He preached against pockets on skirts.....he preached against zippers...in fact he pointed at his crouch and said "that zipper belongs to me"...

After his rantings my pastor got up and said that that guy did not speak for us here and basically to disregard what he had to say lol....I don't know whether or not to say my pastor was patient or what but at another church across town he tried the same thing and the pastor there stopped him in the middle of his message.

[Praxeas]

Maybe we need a new law that ladies have to wear pink jeans instead of blue :statbike:

[Sister Alvear]

With billions of lost people and the preachers preach or jean skirits or wearing red...Someone needs to stand at the foot of the cross and watch the Savior die...

Such foolishness goes on in the name of Christ...

[nwlife]

LOL

My Ma (of all people) bought me some jeans and their crotch was about 6 inches below where it should be. They are not quite hip hop style but I refuse to wear them.

I love the hip hop style-especially since they are made big, it helps to fit around the belly! But for when I wear them, I do have to wear big suspenders!!! Kinda makes me look like the tv character Steve Urkell!!!
:spit

[nwlife]

With billions of lost people and the preachers preach or jean skirits or wearing red...Someone needs to stand at the foot of the cross and watch the Savior die...

Such foolishness goes on in the name of Christ...

Very true Sister! Very True!

[SDG]

Sounds like a great project ...

Help saves the Earth (recycling)
Saves money (recession)
Makes you holy (religion)


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I found this for those want to practice the R's:

Through a fairly straightforward set of steps, you can make a skirt out of a favorite old pair of pants, getting use out of them even if there's a hole in the bum or a few rips in the knees. The process is fairly similar to making bellbottoms. Since dealing with the waist can be a bit tricky when sewing a skirt, this is a nice project for someone just starting to sew, and if the pants fit, you can be fairly sure your finished product will fit you as well. The process is as follows:

Decide how full and how long you want your skirt to be.

Acquire a yard or two of fabric.

Slit the pants along the seams. The only tricky part is the crotch: There's some extra fabric at the inseam, so cut the seam above it and trim so that the fabric lies flat. You're also liable to be limited by zipper/button hardware here in terms of how high this slit goes, so take that into account when you're figuring out the height of the others--I'd recommend making them all the same size for simplicity's sake. If your pants don't have zippers or pockets or other things constraining the height for these slits, their exact placement is a matter of taste. Think about what part of you the fabric should flow out from. Hips? Knees? Halfway in between? Just leave at least 3 inches or so of space from the top of the slit to the waistband, so that the garment retains a bit of the original structure around the waist.

If you want a fuller skirt, I'd recommend cutting each resulting section in half after that.
Cut the pants to the length you want your skirt, allowing for a hem.
Optionally, taper each section of the pants into a triangle (this is for aesthetic purposes only).

Cut the extra fabric into wedges to fill the slits (the wider the wedges, the more full the skirt--45 degrees per panel with 8 panels will give you a full-circle skirt). You may want to do some measuring and make a template out of newspaper. It will probably look best if you also round out the bottom edges, but it's not necessary if you're not comfortable sewing anything but straight lines.

Using a sewing machine (or a needle/thread if you're insane and have too much free time), attach the panels of fabric to the slits in the pants. I recommend pinning the fabric together before sewing. Make sure to use two lines of stitches whenever dealing with the edge of the fabric as protection against unravelling.

Trim any excess fabric, hem the bottom edge (ironing helps), and you're done!

Some fashion-oriented skirts made from blue jeans use fabric from the lower legs for the inserts, eliminating the need for finding other fabric. They may also leave some raw edges of the denim exposed and leave much of the inseam intact, folding it over and trimming it to reduce the bulk but leaving the formerly-crotch-following curve sewn in place to emphasize the DIY nature of the garment. The look has enjoyed some popularity recently, and it's probably what most people will have in mind when you tell them you turned a broken pair of pants into a skirt.

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[rgcraig]

http://www.savvyseams.com/clothing/jeanskirt.php

[jaxfam6]

http://www.savvyseams.com/clothing/jeanskirt.php

That could not have been from a UC the skirt was to short.

=)

I knew a pastor's wife that has done this for years. She would look for outfits and when she found one she liked, if it were a pant suit she would remake the pants into skirts. No one knew about it for years till I saw her in a store buying an outfit and she felt a 'need' to explain to me why she was buying a pant suit. I could have cared less.

[Margies3]

TIM RUTLEDGE were you not over at another forum talking bad about this forum and I see you are here tonight...How come?

Sis, Alvear, I believe that is the closest I've ever heard you come to calling someone out! WOW! I'm..................... I don't know what I am? stunned? amazed? impressed? shocked? WOW! Just WOW!

With billions of lost people and the preachers preach or jean skirits or wearing red...Someone needs to stand at the foot of the cross and watch the Savior die...

Such foolishness goes on in the name of Christ...

Now this is WISDOM, people!! AMEN!!!!!!!!!!

[jaxfam6]

This forum is so funny I wore a red skirt and blouse to church the other night and in the middle of the service it dawned on me what some say about red and I was the preacher that night! lol...

you are going to get the name of harlot preacher if you keep wearing that red


=)



j/k

[jaxfam6]

Sis, Alvear, I believe that is the closest I've ever heard you come to calling someone out! WOW! I'm..................... I don't know what I am? stunned? amazed? impressed? shocked? WOW! Just WOW!



Now this is WISDOM, people!! AMEN!!!!!!!!!!

Doesn't she make you want to move to Brazil and go to their church? I love her posts

[Margies3]

Doesn't she make you want to move to Brazil and go to their church? I love her posts

I totally agree! This lady has more wisdom in her little toe than most people have in their whole beings. We are very blessed to have her here on AFF. I think God sent her here to keep some of us in check - myself included on occasion. Everyone included, on occasion :)

[Sister Alvear]

It is just I think we ought to be transparent....to come here and read and take somewhere else and talk about the forum in a derogatory manner does not seem Christian to me...maybe I was a little too sharp but some UC´s many need to relearn what it is to be a Christian.
I really think he is sincere but very unseasoned and inexperienced...I think he wants to be saved with all his heart so if that is true a little motherly rebuke will make him into a better Christian.
If anyone does not like it here that is fine. I feel very uncomfortable on some forums but do not bad mouth them...

Beloved friends....we are near the end of this system of things as my JW friend expresses....more than ever before we NEED each other...I believe many things will happen that will draw God´s people closer together not further apart...

I personally have repented for things I have said at times on the net...we must all draw closer to the Lord.

[Sister Alvear]

I totally agree! This lady has more wisdom in her little toe than most people have in their whole beings. We are very blessed to have her here on AFF. I think God sent her here to keep some of us in check - myself included on occasion. Everyone included, on occasion :)

Hey, dear friend....had my jumper on this morning you sent me...such an honor to wear someone´s clothers from the forum...love you.

[Margies3]

Hey, dear friend....had my jumper on this morning you sent me...such an honor to wear someone´s clothers from the forum...love you.

Oh no, dear Sister. That was never MY jumper. I bought it, but it never fit right. So apparently God bought it for you. He just used my hands to write to the check for it. :hug4

I would say, "post a pic" but if I remember correctly, it's a denim jumper. Right? LOL Wouldn't want to make anyone uncomfortable. hehehehe

[Sister Alvear]

yes, it is and I love it....but love you folks the best! Thanks for being His channel of blessing to me.

[freeatlast]

Denim skirts are actually a big fashion item now. I have several of them, and not because I have to wear them, because I have lots of jeans too. But I love them and they're cute with the right shoes, etc. I also have one like you're talking about - made from jeans - but I bought it from a boutique and it's fringy around the bottom. Very cute with heels! (No tennis shoes for me, thank you).

I think when you're in UPC, it's kind of a stigma, but after being gone for 17+ years, denim skirts are just cute!

Yup...agreed

[freeatlast]

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e202/missionarylady/maranhao081.jpg

Don´t you like us in our jeans?

You look very nice Sis Alvear..so glad you were not sporting thos white tenny's of your husbands.

[freeatlast]

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e202/missionarylady/maranhao077.jpg

TIM RUTLEDGE were you not over at another forum talking bad about this forum and I see you are here tonight...How come?

Wooooo...you preach Sis Alvear !!

[freeatlast]

OH good grief! That is unbelievable that anyone today could believe such nonesense.

Sister I don't believe it at all..but I have heard it taught.

[freeatlast]

We had a preacher come to town once...I won't mention his name but he is well known in California...and you might figure it out if he has ever preached standards are a church any of you were in.

He preached against pockets on skirts.....he preached against zippers...in fact he pointed at his crouch and said "that zipper belongs to me"...

After his rantings my pastor got up and said that that guy did not speak for us here and basically to disregard what he had to say lol....I don't know whether or not to say my pastor was patient or what but at another church across town he tried the same thing and the pastor there stopped him in the middle of his message.

Prax: my former UPC church in Illinoi preached the same thing.

It made me so glad that I was no longer in that congregation.

[SOUNWORTHY]

Back to the subject. If it was made for men, no matter what you do to it it's still men's apparel. Besides that, most jean skirts look sloppy. I believe women can look holy and still look feminine.

[freeatlast]

Back to the subject. If it was made for men, no matter what you do to it it's still men's apparel. Besides that, most jean skirts look sloppy. I believe women can look holy and still look feminine.

I really do not think that Denim is any more Mens only material

I also do not believe that pants are mens only garments.

I do believe the ONLY scripture we use to "prove" that women should not wera that which pertaineth to a man ( dt 22:5) has been misinterpreted by us.

If we look to thew original language, It states that a woman should take up the armaments of a warrior.

Of course when you look at it tha way all you can do is say God dprefers that women do not go to war.

[Blubayou]

I wear denim skirts, but I do not wear them with tennis shoes. The only time I have worn tennis shoes with a skirt is when I was in San Francisco on a walking tour- my feet were killing me. I swallowed my pride and bought a pair of tennis shoes to wear walking around, so I could finish seeing the sights. Wearing skirts with unfeminine shoes is a pet peeve of mine.

[Sister Alvear]

I seldom wear jean skirts but I do not see denim for men any more than red is for a prostitute or black for the devil...I think we get hooked on too many non essential things...
Maybe major in minors and minor in majors...

Like a preacher that once visited us and told our women they had to wear hose...and all the while he was having an affair with the maid...lol...I am so glad I told him I would not tell our people they had to wear hose when they did not even have bread money...kinda like firemen who straighten pictures in burning houses...

[Sister Alvear]

I have had the same pair of tennis shoes probably 10 years...I don´t like tennis shoes...

[stmatthew]

I just went to a 2 day mini conference held at a UPC church.

One of the break out sessions was "how to make jean skirts out of blue jeans"

I asked if it was a serious class and was assured that it was.

You thoughts?

Just what I want my wife to learn at a church gathering. I am sure she would have gained great strides in her spiritual life by attending such a spiritual gathering.


I continue to be amazed at the spiritual decline of the American Apostolic movement.

[rgcraig]

Just what I want my wife to learn at a church gathering. I am sure she would have gained great strides in her spiritual life by attending such a spiritual gathering.


I continue to be amazed at the spiritual decline of the American Apostolic movement.
Matt, to some that is a spiritual subject.

[stmatthew]

Matt, to some that is a spiritual subject.

Which makes it all the sadder.


btw - Nice picture!

[collegemom]

I did not read all 11 pages of this thread - but my first thought is OMW! What are we coming to? That we will actual teach a class on making a skirt out of pants! I was a child that grew up that way (mom did that type of sowing for all the her girls).

Why are we not teaching a class on the Fruit of the Spirit, God's grace, True Holiness....? It still amazes me. So glad I am free from that type of thinking and teaching.

[Sister Alvear]

Denim ...is being preached when nine out of ten people in this wicked world are bound for a Godless, eternal hell....

[Sister Alvear]

Why don´t we give a soul winning class...I am amazed at the mindset...how to make a skirt out of a pair of pants...lol...and then someone say the skirt is wrong because it once was pants...

[rgcraig]

Which makes it all the sadder.


btw - Nice picture!Thanks!

[Mrs. LPW]

I just went to a 2 day mini conference held at a UPC church.

One of the break out sessions was "how to make jean skirts out of blue jeans"

I asked if it was a serious class and was assured that it was.

You thoughts?

Freeatlast,

What was the nature of this two day mini-conference? What was the name of the conference and what other subjects were addressed?
Curious. (and not because I think I know the church, I have no clue, and don't care to know, I just wondered what the context was)

[Scott Hutchinson]

My wife wears tennis shoes with her denim skirts.I think she is cute.

[Sister Alvear]

tennis shoes make my feet sweat...

[freeatlast]

Freeatlast,

What was the nature of this two day mini-conference? What was the name of the conference and what other subjects were addressed?
Curious. (and not because I think I know the church, I have no clue, and don't care to know, I just wondered what the context was)

Conference was called EMPACT. Subjects addressed in break out sessions
Begining sound /advance sound/Adult SS teacher/ Bi-vocational pastor/ Fundraising for Teens class/ a panel discussion on worship (still struggling with hymns vs, contempory worship)

[MomOfADramaQn]

I guess my point is, and apologize for my offensivness, My point is we demand dresses only to show our separation and our holiness.

Yes, Mrs. LPW It's the jeans skirt i am not a fan of.

I have no problem with skirts in general, I just see jean skirts as a "not quite up to par witness"

OK you can shoot me now.

IMO - wearing dresses DOES NOT show separation. I was watching a TV show on cults the other day - they all looked "separate" according to apostolic standards. LDS - look at their women - Amish people - look at their women. In the area where I live there are plenty of trinitarians that still preach holiness - so how cany anyone say that is "separation"

[freeatlast]

IMO - wearing dresses DOES NOT show separation. I was watching a TV show on cults the other day - they all looked "separate" according to apostolic standards. LDS - look at their women - Amish people - look at their women. In the area where I live there are plenty of trinitarians that still preach holiness - so how cany anyone say that is "separation"

The priciple that comes thru Pauls teaching the churchs is that they stay away from things that would associate them with the pagans around them.

I think if Paul was writing us today he'd tell us not to "look" like the Amish or the LDS or the Texas FDLS polygmist or the snake handlers that have seen on TV.

There is just NO scripture that suports dresses only on women. If you say it's Duet 22:5 you are in error. Sorry, thats just wrong.

[MomOfADramaQn]

The priciple that comes thru Pauls teaching the churchs is that they stay away from things that would associate them with the pagans around them.

I think if Paul was writing us today he'd tell us not to "look" like the Amish or the LDS or the Texas FDLS polygmist or the snake handlers that have seen on TV.

There is just NO scripture that suports dresses only on women. If you say it's Duet 22:5 you are in error. Sorry, thats just wrong.

Agree with you 100% but I don't say it around too many people-I've always been the black sheep of the family because I have my own ideas instead of just believing everything I have always been told - LOL - oh well - gotta love family anyway :)

[Cindy]

Yes and we can love people without judging them. But yet we still want to fight our brothers and sisters over it. God is the judge either way. Our opinion doesn't change His standards. (And I am not talking about what someone wears).

[Sister Alvear]

Dear ones...if we are really a christian all will know it and it will not be because of a sleeve length...( I am in the UC camp) however it will be because of the way we treat our brothers and sisters...The fruits of a christian are hard to deny...

[commonsense]

I just went to a 2 day mini conference held at a UPC church.

One of the break out sessions was "how to make jean skirts out of blue jeans"

I asked if it was a serious class and was assured that it was.

You thoughts?


Stupid! If you think it through, it's nonsense.
Even if you believe the no pants theory, to give a class! just seems to put too much emphasis on it.

Sis A, as always your comments and wisdom are a breath of fresh air.:scoregood


I work in a warehouse environment and wear pants; no, it's not required, just much more practical.
The handbook does address jewelry since long earrings or necklaces could get caught on something.
As for a skirt to work?
I climb ladders*** and there are employees and customers in the same areas, need I say more?

[Michlow]

According the "official" interpretion of Duet 22:5 Denim was a material made a designed for men that worked in harsh conditions. The material held well. Denim is definetly a material that "pertains to men"

But yet in our churches it's like a ladies uniform.

It's the inconsistency of our standards that irks me, on the issues of what a woman can wear.

There was a poster at FCF and later at NFCF, but I don't think he ever made it over here, who did believe that denim was not feminine. He was always preaching his doctrine of "denimology" I want to say that his name started with a G...can anyone help me out there?

[Cindy]

Dear ones...if we are really a christian all will know it and it will not be because of a sleeve length...( I am in the UC camp) however it will be because of the way we treat our brothers and sisters...The fruits of a christian are hard to deny...

But it seems to be so much easier to some to whine, gripe, and complain about any little thing they don't agree with. They need to remember it goes both ways. And I don't advocate telling someone they will go to hell for anything. Only God knows our hearts.

[jaxfam6]

Dear ones...if we are really a christian all will know it and it will not be because of a sleeve length...( I am in the UC camp) however it will be because of the way we treat our brothers and sisters...The fruits of a christian are hard to deny...

and for some those fruits seem to be SOUR grapes, SOUR apples, SOUR oranges, SOUR lemons, SOUR limes, SOUR........ I think you get my meaning

=)

What was it my dad used to say?
Some people look like they have been baptized in lemon juice and given vinegar for communion.

[Theresa]

There was a poster at FCF and later at NFCF, but I don't think he ever made it over here, who did believe that denim was not feminine. He was always preaching his doctrine of "denimology" I want to say that his name started with a G...can anyone help me out there?

isnt he "bishop"?

groce? something like that

[jaxfam6]

isnt he "bishop"?

groce? something like that

would not surprise me

[Theresa]

I didnt read this whole thread b/c I've read all these same kinds of comments before in different threads...but I have one comment of no particular importance LOL

There was a time when jean skirts were hard to find in the store - that is decent looking ones - and it was discovered that you could make one using disassembled jeans.

Now how that is somehow "ok" - I dont understand, nor do I care - but if done correctly, it AT ONE TIME, was pretty neat.

But I do find that having a breakout session to teach this practice is HILARIOUS and pathetic all at the same time.

They need to have break out sessions about the importance of keeping one's appearance...just b/c you have uncut hair and wear skirts does not mean you have to look like something the cat threw up. I think God is ashamed of folks who dont take care of their appearance. I personally think it's just as wrong to look like that as it would be to look like "the world"

JMO

[Aquila]

Some have mentioned that they feel denim skirts are inappropriate. Here are some points to ponder...

The first Christians were among the slave class in ancient Rome. I doubt they dressed much better than the average slave. It's not about what you're wearing, it's about one's disposition of the heart.

Here's a little trivia for y'all. The custom of "dressing up" for church or to represent Christ came from the Roman Catholic Church. When Christianity was embraced as the state religion, Christian bishops were made state officials. This required the clergy to begin wearing various vestments as was customary for Roman officials. It was also considered contempt against an official's office to appear before them in common clothing and so Christians were required to meet said standard when appearing before the Bishop, in church. Ushers were originally allowed to remove any attendee who was inappropriately attired so as to not offend the official clergyman.

Dressing up for church wasn't something the original Apostolic church focused upon, nor did they even mention it in scripture.

[Michlow]

isnt he "bishop"?

groce? something like that

would not surprise me

Yes that's it!

It was driving me crazy, LOL

[Arphaxad]

Back to the subject. If it was made for men, no matter what you do to it it's still men's apparel. Besides that, most jean skirts look sloppy. I believe women can look holy and still look feminine.

When everything is recycled noone is going to know anythings origins.
I had a shirt made out of hemp, what about that? What about a "Jerry Garcia" brand tie, would anyone wear a tie with a known druggies name on it?


ARPH:doggyrun

[Michlow]

Back to the subject. If it was made for men, no matter what you do to it it's still men's apparel. Besides that, most jean skirts look sloppy. I believe women can look holy and still look feminine.

If this is the case, then women's pants would be acceptable as they are made for women ;)

[Aquila]

Originally "pants" were an article of women's clothing. If I remember correctly the oldest record of "pants" being worn shows that they were worn by women in ancient China who worked the rice patties. It was to protect their legs. However, the Chinese military began having cavalry soldiers wear pants while riding horse back. Soon they became standard men's apparel during cultural exchange.

We see the same shift in hosiery.

[Sister Alvear]

Originally "pants" were an article of women's clothing. If I remember correctly the oldest record of "pants" being worn shows that they were worn by women in ancient China who worked the rice patties. It was to protect their legs. However, the Chinese military began having cavalry soldiers wear pants while riding horse back. Soon they became standard men's apparel during cultural exchange.

We see the same shift in hosiery.

Do you know where I could read more about this?

[Sister Alvear]

I enjoy reading history but that is a new one...

[SOUNWORTHY]

When everything is recycled noone is going to know anythings origins.
I had a shirt made out of hemp, what about that? What about a "Jerry Garcia" brand tie, would anyone wear a tie with a known druggies name on it?


ARPH:doggyrun

I've got one, my daughters got it for me..Not sure I'cve ever worn it and I don't know who J Garcia is. I mainly don't wear it because it's so loud it might keep me awake in church.:nutso

[Pressing-On]

I enjoy reading history but that is a new one...
Info for the discussion.

Origin of Pants

Where did "pants" come into this picture? In ca. 800, in comic drama according to Robert Hendrickson in his book " Facts on File, An Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins", the fool in a comic production was called panteleon...all lion. In time this changed to "pantaloon". The actor was dressed in breeches that were tight below the knee but which bloused out in a full puffy fashion from the waist to the knee.

http://www.dl.ket.org/latin3/vocab/etym/history/pants.htm

Braccae: Latin term for leg wrappings of the German tribes. This is the origin of the modern term "breeches".

Breeches: Trousers or pants ending just below the knee--thus commonly referred to as knee breeches. From the late 16th century until the early 19th century, most men and boys wore breeches as their lower body garment. Through the centuries breeches were seen in many forms and lengths. In the early 18th century breeches were barely seen beneath long waistcoats and coats. By the mid-18th century they were more noticeable beneath shorter waistcoats and open coats, and so the cut of breeches became tighter and revealed the shape of the leg. Worn by all levels of society, breeches were made in a great variety of silks, cottons, linens, wools, knits, and leathers. It was the lower classes, peasants, workmen, and sailors that first wore long trousers, and were first derisevely call sans cullotes", without short trousers. Boys from affluent families began the transition to long trousers when in the late 18th century they began wearing long trouser skeleton suits. The term breeches coined the term breeching.

http://histclo.com/style/pants/tro-term.html

Historically, as for the West, trousers have been the standard lower-body clothing item for males since the 16th century; by the late 20th century, they had become prevalent for females as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trousers

[SOUNWORTHY]

My wife weard jean skirts, just below the knee, not down to the tops of her bobby sox and lace up tennies. :0 I think on another post someone referred to the women who wear long jean skirts with tennis shoes and bobby sox and sloppy sweat shirts as blue whales. :stopI didn't say that.

[Arphaxad]

I've got one, my daughters got it for me..Not sure I'cve ever worn it and I don't know who J Garcia is. I mainly don't wear it because it's so loud it might keep me awake in church.:nutso

He was the leader of the hippie band "Grateful Dead", that's why those ties are so psychodelic.


ARPH:doggyrun

[Sister Alvear]

Info for the discussion.

Origin of Pants

Where did "pants" come into this picture? In ca. 800, in comic drama according to Robert Hendrickson in his book " Facts on File, An Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins", the fool in a comic production was called panteleon...all lion. In time this changed to "pantaloon". The actor was dressed in breeches that were tight below the knee but which bloused out in a full puffy fashion from the waist to the knee.

http://www.dl.ket.org/latin3/vocab/etym/history/pants.htm

Braccae: Latin term for leg wrappings of the German tribes. This is the origin of the modern term "breeches".

Breeches: Trousers or pants ending just below the knee--thus commonly referred to as knee breeches. From the late 16th century until the early 19th century, most men and boys wore breeches as their lower body garment. Through the centuries breeches were seen in many forms and lengths. In the early 18th century breeches were barely seen beneath long waistcoats and coats. By the mid-18th century they were more noticeable beneath shorter waistcoats and open coats, and so the cut of breeches became tighter and revealed the shape of the leg. Worn by all levels of society, breeches were made in a great variety of silks, cottons, linens, wools, knits, and leathers. It was the lower classes, peasants, workmen, and sailors that first wore long trousers, and were first derisevely call sans cullotes", without short trousers. Boys from affluent families began the transition to long trousers when in the late 18th century they began wearing long trouser skeleton suits. The term breeches coined the term breeching.

http://histclo.com/style/pants/tro-term.html

Historically, as for the West, trousers have been the standard lower-body clothing item for males since the 16th century; by the late 20th century, they had become prevalent for females as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trousers


thank you I will enjoy the reading.

[marthaolivia]

Believe it or not I do not even have a denim skirt but I do have some jeans if I want to make one.
:)

[HADDOCK]

I've not read each and every post here, so this may have already been mentioned. This isn't new. We made jean skirts out of blue jeans in the 70's. Also tie skirts made from men's neckties.