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[billybob8469]

Curious about your thought on this atheist campian:

http://apostolicupdate.blogspot.com/2009/02/praise-darwin-billboards-spark-reply.html

Seems like the atheist are fighting harder then ever.

[Praxeas]

Yes they are quite the religious zealots aren't they?

[billybob8469]

That is for sure.

Don't know if this has been posted yet. It's an atheist bus campain in london. If you don't believe in God then why do you care?

atheist bus campain (http://apostolicupdate.blogspot.com/2009/02/christians-and-atheists-battle-in.html)

[Timmy]

That is for sure.

Don't know if this has been posted yet. It's an atheist bus campain in london. If you don't believe in God then why do you care?

atheist bus campain (http://apostolicupdate.blogspot.com/2009/02/christians-and-atheists-battle-in.html)

Fair question. I'm not an atheist, but perhaps I can answer your question on their behalf. Why care? Maybe some would say they care because they have judged the Christian religion by its fruit. They see the abuses, the guilt trips, the dashed hopes and failed promises, and they would like to see that bad fruit come to an end.

Now, in their view, I think, the "fruit" is an unavoidable result of religion, and the only way to stop the fruit is to end religion. Yes I know, in your view, the bad fruit is from people who aren't getting it right. Blame imperfect people, don't blame God! And you have a point. I certainly don't claim that all Christians are bad people. Quite the contrary, most of the Christians I know are good folks. And I (and the atheists) shouldn't judge the whole lot based on some bad apples. Pardon the metaphor mix, but I, for one, am trying not to throw the baby out with the bath water. (Despite how it may appear, from some of my posts! ;))

Why am I posting this? I dunno. Just food for thought, I guess. Not out to change anyone here into atheists, that's for sure. Just hoping some may start trying to see things from another point of view, which sometimes gets lost in the arguing and fighting over whether God exists. That very concept seems kind of weird to me, now I think about it. It could be an interesting discussion, looking at the merits of both sides of the question, weighing the evidence etc., but some on both sides would rather just fight, trying to prove they're right and (even more importantly, it seems!) the other side is wrong.

[billybob8469]

Thanks for the reply.

I think alot of these people are sincere people who were involved with "Christian" churches that didn't preach the whole truth. They were told they should feel different and they didn't. So, they wrote off God instead of searching for what there heart was after.

[jaamez]

Fair question. I'm not an atheist, but perhaps I can answer your question on their behalf. Why care? Maybe some would say they care because they have judged the Christian religion by its fruit. They see the abuses, the guilt trips, the dashed hopes and failed promises, and they would like to see that bad fruit come to an end.

Now, in their view, I think, the "fruit" is an unavoidable result of religion, and the only way to stop the fruit is to end religion. Yes I know, in your view, the bad fruit is from people who aren't getting it right. Blame imperfect people, don't blame God! And you have a point. I certainly don't claim that all Christians are bad people. Quite the contrary, most of the Christians I know are good folks. And I (and the atheists) shouldn't judge the whole lot based on some bad apples. Pardon the metaphor mix, but I, for one, am trying not to throw the baby out with the bath water. (Despite how it may appear, from some of my posts! ;))

Why am I posting this? I dunno. Just food for thought, I guess. Not out to change anyone here into atheists, that's for sure. Just hoping some may start trying to see things from another point of view, which sometimes gets lost in the arguing and fighting over whether God exists. That very concept seems kind of weird to me, now I think about it. It could be an interesting discussion, looking at the merits of both sides of the question, weighing the evidence etc., but some on both sides would rather just fight, trying to prove they're right and (even more importantly, it seems!) the other side is wrong.
I wish there was an emoticon for "hitting the nail on the head"! I think you've nailed it, Timmy. Religion has given the church a bad name, and the church doesn't always seem too bothered by it. It's a shame really.

Yesterday was the 200th anniversary of Darwin's birth. To commemorate, I placed a sign on my office door that simply says, "The Chicken!" It has sparked a lot of questions and has given me an opportunity to share my faith with passersby - some I had never met before yesterday.

Explanation? Which came first? The chicken or the egg? Easy! The chicken came first. God created the animals first, but gave each of them the ability to reproduce. Same with the trees and the grass, etc. He created them as mature and placed in each of them their seed so that they could reproduce. I have two people interested in Bible studies during lunch and I'm starting today... AT WORK! Folks, we need to take advantage of EVERY opportunity - even the birthday of a perceived enemy of God and champion of atheism. Romans 8.28.

[pelathais]

The "Freedom From Religion" group does have a pertinent gripe at times, but usually just in the social context and not in the legal arena where they constantly take their squabbles. I think this ad campaign is also misguided.

I've read just about everything that Charles Darwin has ever published including many personal letters and correspondences. I read nothing that gives me the impression that he would have supported this campaign and in fact, if he were alive today he would probably scold these people in some Victorian fashion by which 200 year old gentlemen would have scolded the rascals of their day.

Darwin is to be praised as a naturalist and as an apparently kind and well spoken human being. He is no substitute for Deity - nor even for the speculated absence of Deity. His ideas about natural selection do not remove God from the discussion despite the attempts by many to do so.

Darwin himself accepted, with reservations, the label that had been coined by his friend Thomas Huxley - agnostic. They had concluded that there was simply not enough evidence in the natural world alone to empirically assert the existence of God. Ray Comfort, whose writings I have also read, is in error with his billboard labeling Darwin an "atheist." Darwin considered atheism in a philosophical manner and ultimately rejected it on philosophical grounds.

Dan Barker at FFR and the folks at WorldNetDaily almost seem to have been imbibing the same substances as Joaquin Phoenix (http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2008/news/081117/joaquin_phoenix.jpg). Everybody's getting everything backward - you'd think it was a Friday the Thirteenth, or something.

[billybob8469]

Crazy story. Woman might lose job because of prayer request!

Secretary threatened after daughter mentions Jesus (http://apostolicupdate.blogspot.com/2009/02/secretary-threatened-after-daughter.html)

[Cindy]

So they threaten to fire the mom for something her daughter said? That seems so fair..........NOT!!!!!!! I would want to know which of her "friends" turned her in for the email.
That seems the only likely way the school authorities found out about it.

[billybob8469]

Yeah. You think your sending out a prayer request, and one of your "friends" sends it into your boss.

[Rhoni]

Yeah. You think your sending out a prayer request, and one of your "friends" sends it into your boss.

Remember about the disloyalty of the day...even children will turn against parents....we are living in that day.

[shawndell]

Its time to pray for that mother and her little girl.

[billybob8469]

Yeah, Just don't send an e-mail..........

[pelathais]

I wish there was an emoticon for "hitting the nail on the head"! I think you've nailed it, Timmy. Religion has given the church a bad name, and the church doesn't always seem too bothered by it. It's a shame really.

Yesterday was the 200th anniversary of Darwin's birth. To commemorate, I placed a sign on my office door that simply says, "The Chicken!" It has sparked a lot of questions and has given me an opportunity to share my faith with passersby - some I had never met before yesterday.

Explanation? Which came first? The chicken or the egg? Easy! The chicken came first. God created the animals first, but gave each of them the ability to reproduce. Same with the trees and the grass, etc. He created them as mature and placed in each of them their seed so that they could reproduce. I have two people interested in Bible studies during lunch and I'm starting today... AT WORK! Folks, we need to take advantage of EVERY opportunity - even the birthday of a perceived enemy of God and champion of atheism. Romans 8.28.
The answer to the "chicken or egg" question is actually, the egg (http://www.newser.com/story/42726/sorry-chicken-fossil-proves-egg-came-first.html) (click the link)... only it wasn't yet a chicken egg. We find eggs in the fossil record long before we find anything resembling a chicken.

The assertion that God created all life in a "mature" form is actually without support from the scriptures and appears no where in the natural history of our planet. What the Bible does say, however, is that God created the animals, plants and humans from the materials found upon the earth. A simple chemical analysis is sufficient to prove that the Bible is correct here.

[Timmy]

The answer to the "chicken or egg" question is actually, the egg (http://www.newser.com/story/42726/sorry-chicken-fossil-proves-egg-came-first.html) (click the link)... only it wasn't yet a chicken egg. We find eggs in the fossil record long before we find anything resembling a chicken.

The assertion that God created all life in a "mature" form is actually without support from the scriptures and appears no where in the natural history of our planet. What the Bible does say, however, is that God created the animals, plants and humans from the materials found upon the earth. A simple chemical analysis is sufficient to prove that the Bible is correct here.

That the materials found on Earth are what constitute living things, I think you mean, not that God did it?

[pelathais]

That the materials found on Earth are what constitute living things, I think you mean, not that God did it?
Well, granted... it's not much of a polemic. We are the dust of the earth just like the Bible says we are. But I thought it was kind of a wry and yet humble "proof" of the Bible's testimony.

What I meant was were are "dust" - just like the Bible says. Of course, just about everybody else says the same thing.

[Timmy]

Well, granted... it's not much of a polemic. We are the dust of the earth just like the Bible says we are. But I thought it was kind of a wry and yet humble "proof" of the Bible's testimony.

What I meant was were are "dust" - just like the Bible says. Of course, just about everybody else says the same thing.

:thumbsup

[billybob8469]

Hello,

My friend and his wife are planning an AIM(associate in missions) trip. They have started a apostolic news blog to fund raise for the trip.

So take a look, make it one of your daily webpages or sign up for the RSS feed.

The blog is free and the funds are raised through ads.

http://apostolicupdate.blogspot.com/ (Apostolic Update)

Thanks!

[seguidordejesus]

They don't mention their AIM project there...

[billybob8469]

Good point. I will mention that to them. However I know that is the goal of the blog.

[MissBrattified]

You can mention the trip, but you can't request that people click on Google ads. Google is good about monitoring that kind of thing. If they start getting lots of repetitive clicks from single or common sources, Google will flag it, and then they won't get any money from ads at all.

About 25% of our monthly income comes from Google ads on my husband's websites.

[billybob8469]

Just talked to him, it should be up soon.

Thanks for the suggestion!

[billybob8469]

Very true MissBrattified,

We are just trying to get the site on peoples radar.

Thanks

[MissBrattified]

Very true MissBrattified,

We are just trying to get the site on peoples radar.

Thanks

:) I know!!!! Not trying to put a damper on anything! Just FYI and FYI for those who mean well, but can cause more harm than good by repeatedly clicking ads! LOL!!!!!

:thumbsup

[Sister Alvear]

Will visit the site. Blessings to them.

[billybob8469]

Thank you everyone for your help. I believe the Lord wants to bless through this project!

[billybob8469]

Easier to win souls then sell toothpaste!

Funny. Glad i'm tring to win souls and not sell toothpaste.

http://apostolicupdate.blogspot.com/2009/02/us-protestants-more-loyal-to-toothpaste.html

[billybob8469]

Missionaries sentenced to a year of hard labor in Gambian after prayer list e-mail.

Check it out:

Apostolic Update --- Your Source for Apostolic News (http://apostolicupdate.blogspot.com/2009/02/youve-got-jail.html)

[seguidordejesus]

Where's Gambian? :)

[Ron]

Where's Gambian? :)

Gambia is in Africa.

[Cindy]

I think he used poor judgment. Mentioning arming people is not a good idea for anyone, much less a missionary in a foreign country. Even jokingly.

[billybob8469]

oops, I guess I typed the subject a little too fast, lol

[Praxeas]

I think he used poor judgment. Mentioning arming people is not a good idea for anyone, much less a missionary in a foreign country. Even jokingly.
Poor judgement but the only real reason for the harsh sentence is they are Christians in a muslim area

[Sister Alvear]

I will be praying for them.

[Cindy]

Poor judgement but the only real reason for the harsh sentence is they are Christians in a muslim area

I don't agree with that. He knew he was in a muslim area. And to email that to someone was just not very bright.

[TRFrance]

Poor judgement but the only real reason for the harsh sentence is they are Christians in a muslim area

I agree.

It's pretty clear he was being facetious when he said this:
"Now how [a growing extremist element] should be dealt with, I don't know," David wrote in an e-mail to supporters. "(I have suggested that we arm the Muslims with sticks and the Christians with machine guns and let them fight it out.) [B]ut seriously, while I will defend myself and my family I don't believe that I will or should take any part in a physical proactive role against them, that's the government's job."

He probably should have used better judment, but I dont believe for a minute that the government thought that this email indicated a real threat to society. The one-year jail sentence was bogus.

[Ron]

I don't agree with that. He knew he was in a muslim area. And to email that to someone was just not very bright.

True, but who hasn't exercised poor judgment at times. I have.

The fact is the punishment doesn't fit the crime!

JMHO

[Cindy]

In this day and age it is not smart for anyone to use that kind of rhetoric, especially a christian in a muslim area. I am in no way saying the punishment isn't harsh. I do agree with that.

[billybob8469]

Christian video and social networking site GodTube.com has changed its name and purpose.

The popular Web site is now called tangle.com and is no longer catering toward only Christians, the Dallas Morning News reports

Check it out:

GodTube Changes Name to Tangle.com (http://apostolicupdate.blogspot.com/)

[CC1]

I thought at first it was now targeting Pentecostal women with long uncut hair.

[*AQuietPlace*]

I thought at first it was now targeting Pentecostal women with long uncut hair.
:ursofunny

[TRFrance]

Christian video and social networking site GodTube.com has changed its name and purpose.

The popular Web site is now called tangle.com and is no longer catering toward only Christians, the Dallas Morning News reports

Check it out:

GodTube Changes Name to Tangle.com (http://apostolicupdate.blogspot.com/)

Maybe it's just me, but...something about this just sounds kinda sellout-ish to me.

[All4one]

Maybe it's just me, but...something about this just sounds kinda sellout-ish to me.

My first thought is they want to be mainstream, now that they have grown this big, so they can sell it and make big bucks!

[CC1]

My first thought is they want to be mainstream, now that they have grown this big, so they can sell it and make big bucks!

That is how ABC network's cable channel "ABC Family" came into being. Pat Robertson built CBN (Christian Broadcasting Network) up over many years as a Christian Network then sold for over one hundred million dollars to ABC who changed it from a Christian Network to a so called "family" one. Pat was smart enough to build in the deal guaranteed airtime for his own program, The 700 Club.

To his credit I believe Robertson used a lot of the proceeds to finance his University which serves a great purpose.

[billybob8469]

A $6.9 million grant from the John Templeton Foundation will allow USC to establish the Pentecostal and Charismatic Research Initiative, university officials announced Monday.

Check it out:

Apostolic Update (http://apostolicupdate.blogspot.com/)

[Timmy]

A $6.9 million grant from the John Templeton Foundation will allow USC to establish the Pentecostal and Charismatic Research Initiative, university officials announced Monday.

Check it out:

Apostolic Update (http://apostolicupdate.blogspot.com/)

Think it'll work? :toofunny

[billybob8469]

They could figure it out for free if they wanted. :)