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Malvaro
02-13-2007, 09:57 AM
Catchy thread title, isn't it? :D

I've been sitting at my desk and systems having been going on and off-line throughout the day.... during one of the 8-9 outages, I got bored and this thought came to my mind as I glanced at one of the Yahoo feature articles (http://www.yahoo.com/s/505759).

So here was the simple Valentine devotional that came to my mind....

Are you torn between two lovers?


We have two that fight for our affections:
God loves us with a unconditional love, and desires to have a relationship with us (1 John 4:17-19)
Satan loves to control & manipulate us, and only desires our subjection to him (John 12:39-40)

How do these two express their feelings toward us?
God showed His love for us by giving the greatest sacrifice, His life on Calvaray (John 3:16, Romans 5:6-8)
Satan shows his hidden contempt for us by seeking to "steal" us through blind allegiance (2 Cor 4:3-4, John 10:10-11)

How do these two show their dependability?
God will never leave or forsake you (Proverbs 18:24, Hebrews 13:5-6)
Satan will leave anytime you stand against him in disagreement (James 4:7)

What kind of lovers are they?
God is a gentleman who respects your choice of freedom (Romans 8:1-2, Rev 3:20)
Satan is possessive of every part of your life (Mark 5:1-9, 2 Tim 2:25-26, Galatians 4:3)

How do you know which lover you are falling for?
you know love God, when you spend time with Him and obey his Word (John 14:15)
you know love Satan, when you just do what you want and live like this world (Prov 12:15, Prov 21:1-2)

Matthew 6:23-25
23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Are you torn between two lovers?

Felicity
02-13-2007, 09:58 AM
Great thoughts for a "Valentine" themed meeting. I'm going to copy and paste for later reference.

Thanks Mal!

Sister Truth Seeker
02-13-2007, 10:16 AM
VERY POWERFUL STUFF HERE....thanks Mal and so perfect for Valentines when love is the topic of thought....

Malvaro
02-14-2007, 07:47 AM
http://users.nlamerica.com/graywolf/Valentines%20Day/Coral%20Roses%202.jpg

Happy Valentines Day AFF!!!!

rgcraig
02-14-2007, 07:49 AM
Oh Mal they are beautiful and they'll last forever!

Thanks!

IAintMovin
02-14-2007, 08:47 AM
Oh Mal they are beautiful and they'll last forever!

Thanks!Unless your puter or this software crashes....better take a pic....if I hang my screen upsidedown in the closet think they will dry????????

rgcraig
02-14-2007, 08:49 AM
Unless your puter or this software crashes....better take a pic....if I hang my screen upsidedown in the closet think they will dry????????
Oh lord, you know how to do that? :killinme

Rhoni
02-14-2007, 09:27 AM
Catchy thread title, isn't it? :D

I've been sitting at my desk and systems having been going on and off-line throughout the day.... during one of the 8-9 outages, I got bored and this thought came to my mind as I glanced at one of the Yahoo feature articles (http://www.yahoo.com/s/505759).

So here was the simple Valentine devotional that came to my mind....

Are you torn between two lovers?


We have two that fight for our affections:
God loves us with a unconditional love, and desires to have a relationship with us (1 John 4:17-19)
Satan loves to control & manipulate us, and only desires our subjection to him (John 12:39-40)

Sounds like some Pastors;)



How do these two express their feelings toward us?
God showed His love for us by giving the greatest sacrifice, His life on Calvaray (John 3:16, Romans 5:6-8)
Satan shows his hidden contempt for us by seeking to "steal" us through blind allegiance (2 Cor 4:3-4, John 10:10-11)

Sounds like some Pastors;)

How do these two show their dependability?
God will never leave or forsake you (Proverbs 18:24, Hebrews 13:5-6)
Satan will leave anytime you stand against him in disagreement (James 4:7)

Sounds like some Pastors;)

What kind of lovers are they?
God is a gentleman who respects your choice of freedom (Romans 8:1-2, Rev 3:20)
Satan is possessive of every part of your life (Mark 5:1-9, 2 Tim 2:25-26, Galatians 4:3)

Sounds like some Pastors;)

How do you know which lover you are falling for?
you know love God, when you spend time with Him and obey his Word (John 14:15)
you know love Satan, when you just do what you want and live like this world (Prov 12:15, Prov 21:1-2)

Matthew 6:23-25
23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Are you torn between two lovers?

I'm not but I know some Pastors who are a lot like the devil;)!:tease

Malvaro
02-14-2007, 09:33 AM
I was really hoping that this thread would not become Rhonified.... :tease

Ronzo
02-14-2007, 09:36 AM
"torn between two lovers... feelin' like a fool...." (http://www.lyricsplanet.com/index.php3?style=lyrics&id=60438)

Chan
02-14-2007, 10:17 AM
Catchy thread title, isn't it? :D

I've been sitting at my desk and systems having been going on and off-line throughout the day.... during one of the 8-9 outages, I got bored and this thought came to my mind as I glanced at one of the Yahoo feature articles (http://www.yahoo.com/s/505759).

So here was the simple Valentine devotional that came to my mind....

Are you torn between two lovers?

We have two that fight for our affections:
God loves us with a unconditional love, and desires to have a relationship with us (1 John 4:17-19)
Satan loves to control & manipulate us, and only desires our subjection to him (John 12:39-40)
How do these two express their feelings toward us?
God showed His love for us by giving the greatest sacrifice, His life on Calvaray (John 3:16, Romans 5:6-8)
Satan shows his hidden contempt for us by seeking to "steal" us through blind allegiance (2 Cor 4:3-4, John 10:10-11)
How do these two show their dependability?
God will never leave or forsake you (Proverbs 18:24, Hebrews 13:5-6)
Satan will leave anytime you stand against him in disagreement (James 4:7)
What kind of lovers are they?
God is a gentleman who respects your choice of freedom (Romans 8:1-2, Rev 3:20)
Satan is possessive of every part of your life (Mark 5:1-9, 2 Tim 2:25-26, Galatians 4:3)
How do you know which lover you are falling for?
you know love God, when you spend time with Him and obey his Word (John 14:15)
you know love Satan, when you just do what you want and live like this world (Prov 12:15, Prov 21:1-2)Matthew 6:23-25
23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Are you torn between two lovers?Excellent post. There is one part of it with which I very strongly disagree but otherwise it's an excellent outline for what could potentially be a very powerful message.

Malvaro
02-14-2007, 10:26 AM
Excellent post. There is one part of it with which I very strongly disagree but otherwise it's an excellent outline for what could potentially be a very powerful message.

yah? what part don't you agree with? i suppose if we were apart of a discussion forum, you would go into a little more detail.... thats too bad, I would have been interested in hearing what you were wanting to say....

I gotta sign up on one of those discussion forums.... I've heard they're pretty cool.... :tease hehehehe

ZeroedIn
02-14-2007, 10:45 AM
Rhoni, you must have had some bad pastors!!:sad :sad :sad

Malvaro
02-14-2007, 10:47 AM
Rhoni, you must have had some bad pastors!!:sad :sad :sad

don't open that Pandora's Box!!!! Take those kinds of posts to the Dear Rhoni thread.... :heeheehee

philjones
02-14-2007, 11:50 AM
One of the two lovers actually sounds like a hater to me! :)

Chan
02-14-2007, 11:52 AM
yah? what part don't you agree with? i suppose if we were apart of a discussion forum, you would go into a little more detail.... thats too bad, I would have been interested in hearing what you were wanting to say....

I gotta sign up on one of those discussion forums.... I've heard they're pretty cool.... :tease heheheheI disagree with this part: "God is a gentleman who respects your choice of freedom." For more about this, go to the thread in the Sunday School section titled "Is "free will" really free?"

Chan
02-14-2007, 11:53 AM
One of the two lovers actually sounds like a hater to me! :)But some believe that the ones you love are the ones you hurt the most. I don't happen to believe it but there are people who do.

rgcraig
02-14-2007, 11:55 AM
But some believe that the ones you love are the ones you hurt the most. I don't happen to believe it but there are people who do.

I believe it can happen. I've seen people treat complete strangers always nicer than they do their own family members. Never could understand that.

Chan
02-14-2007, 11:57 AM
I believe it can happen. I've seen people treat complete strangers always nicer than they do their own family members. Never could understand that.Think: a prophet is not welcome in his own home town.

rgcraig
02-14-2007, 12:01 PM
Think: a prophet is not welcome in his own home town.

True, but how sad is that.

Malvaro
02-14-2007, 12:05 PM
I disagree with this part: "God is a gentleman who respects your choice of freedom." For more about this, go to the thread in the Sunday School section titled "Is "free will" really free?"

I respect your right to be wrong.... :D

it would be fruitless to try and persuade each other to embrace the contrary opinion.... regardless, I still appreciate you sharing your thoughts with us....

God bless,

Malvaro

COOPER
02-14-2007, 12:58 PM
Satan will take farther than you wanted to go, stay longer than you wanted to stay and charge you more than you wanted to pay.

Chan
02-14-2007, 01:00 PM
I respect your right to be wrong.... :DI respect your right to be wrong about your opinion that I'm wrong. :D

it would be fruitless to try and persuade each other to embrace the contrary opinion.... regardless, I still appreciate you sharing your thoughts with us....

God bless,

MalvaroI'm not so sure it would be fruitless, particularly when it's an issue regarding the very nature of God and man. All I can say is that you should visit the "Is "Free Will" really free?" thread.

Chan
02-14-2007, 01:01 PM
True, but how sad is that.Sad. Also, I think Solomon said something along the lines of "faithful are the wounds of a friend..."