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Richard Perry
04-28-2007, 09:34 PM
I've recently finished my first novel. 100,000 words of action plus history and intrigue. After the rapture of the church the Jews will be the central focus in the world without Christ. Religion, politics, and economics will briefly unite in the setting of evil that appears good.

The world will not be believing for a "Christian Revival," but will unite with powers of old to re-address the hatreds of centuries. The people of God, the nation of Israel.

The Name? "The Gates of Hell" 64 chapters of espionage, and action as two Jewish heroines, a archeology professor that stood in the tunnel underneath the wailing wall during the Rapture, and a Jewish woman that was married to an apostolic preacher who was one of the disappearances.

She searches for enough truth through husbands studies to survive the holocaust, and he digs through ancient artifacts that come to life for answers to the mystical.

Guaranteed entertainment with twists and exotic scenery around the world.

Need help with agent or publisher, have query will send.

Felicity
04-28-2007, 09:44 PM
Are you serious? It sounds very interesting!

Richard Perry
04-28-2007, 11:30 PM
Are you serious? It sounds very interesting!

It was fun researching and writing and so far, I've had very promising reviews. The history, cosmology, archeology, plus religious settings made the whole work come together in uncanny believability. (some sci-fi literary licence in the Archeology made it soar with intrigue.) I hope to print, and would love someone to take a chance and do it for me, but I still may have to self-publish. Pray for us...

God Bless...

Chan
04-30-2007, 01:43 PM
I've recently finished my first novel. 100,000 words of action plus history and intrigue. After the rapture of the church the Jews will be the central focus in the world without Christ. Religion, politics, and economics will briefly unite in the setting of evil that appears good.

The world will not be believing for a "Christian Revival," but will unite with powers of old to re-address the hatreds of centuries. The people of God, the nation of Israel.

The Name? "The Gates of Hell" 64 chapters of espionage, and action as two Jewish heroines, a archeology professor that stood in the tunnel underneath the wailing wall during the Rapture, and a Jewish woman that was married to an apostolic preacher who was one of the disappearances.

She searches for enough truth through husbands studies to survive the holocaust, and he digs through ancient artifacts that come to life for answers to the mystical.

Guaranteed entertainment with twists and exotic scenery around the world.

Need help with agent or publisher, have query will send.

http://www.publishamerica.com/

If your post is in anyway indicative of your grammar and punctuation, I'd suggest you buy a good book on grammar and punctuation and do some editing.

Pressing-On
04-30-2007, 01:44 PM
http://www.publishamerica.com/

If your post is in anyway indicative of your grammar and punctuation, I'd suggest you buy a good book on grammar and punctuation and do some editing.

Oh, Chancellor. What would we do without you? :heeheehee

Richard Perry
05-01-2007, 12:01 PM
Oh, Chancellor. What would we do without you? :heeheehee

The post was both lonely and impatiently processed. Bro Chan was just being kind to its inability to move, or draw intrest.

Thanx Bro. Chan; you are a compassionate young man. (And I nedd the edating)

Chan
05-01-2007, 02:39 PM
The post was both lonely and impatiently processed.I'm not sure how a post can be lonely. As for whether you impatiently processed it, I guess that's something only you can determine.

Bro Chan was just being kind to its inability to move, or draw intrest.

Thanx Bro. Chan; you are a compassionate young man. (And I nedd the edating)I presume that you hope to one day publish your novel. If so, then I was offering you something that will help you make your novel more attractive to publishers.

Vegas
05-01-2007, 06:36 PM
Chan... it looked pristine to me.... idiot?

Esther
05-02-2007, 08:36 AM
You may consider Morris Publishing.com.

Elizabeth
05-02-2007, 08:49 AM
What you have said so far is neither lonely or impatiently proceeded, I found your introduction quite intriguing.

I wish you well.

Richard Perry
05-02-2007, 10:10 AM
You may consider Morris Publishing.com.

I hace some information from Morris, although I was trying to avoid self-publishing. thanx

Richard Perry
05-02-2007, 10:23 AM
What you have said so far is neither lonely or impatiently proceeded, I found your introduction quite intriguing.

I wish you well.

Thank you kindly....I have been working with editors, alot lately, and so I'm used to interpretive literallist. (I'm quite used to Dr. Chan's critique) The modern laws of writing are evolving daily. Some no-no's that were tabu are becomeing the norm, My book is written in first person active for the main character and third person discriptive for the rest.

That used to be forbidden but has become common. The problem is that publishers no longer take manuscripts anywhere but from agents. Agents have become what the publishers used to do, screeners for the market. That's why self-publishing is becoming popular.

I've began the rejection parade but believe in the book so I've become patient to unreasonable critisism. (Having educated myself in creative writing I really do appreciate all the help I can get.)

God bless....

Chan
05-02-2007, 11:51 AM
Thank you kindly....I have been working with editors, alot lately, and so I'm used to interpretive literallist. (I'm quite used to Dr. Chan's critique) The modern laws of writing are evolving daily. Some no-no's that were tabu are becomeing the norm, My book is written in first person active for the main character and third person discriptive for the rest.

That used to be forbidden but has become common. The problem is that publishers no longer take manuscripts anywhere but from agents. Agents have become what the publishers used to do, screeners for the market. That's why self-publishing is becoming popular.

I've began the rejection parade but believe in the book so I've become patient to unreasonable critisism. (Having educated myself in creative writing I really do appreciate all the help I can get.)

God bless....My suggestion was offered as someone who has more than 20 years of experience in jobs that involved a significant amount of writing (including my present job writing decisions for administrative law judges), as someone who has certification in teaching English as a foreign language, and as the author of three books. It is from experience that I tell you this: grammar and punctuation still matter.

Esther
05-02-2007, 12:53 PM
My suggestion was offered as someone who has more than 20 years of experience in jobs that involved a significant amount of writing (including my present job writing decisions for administrative law judges), as someone who has certification in teaching English as a foreign language, and as the author of three books. It is from experience that I tell you this: grammar and punctuation still matter.

This is true but as Bro. Perry stated, it seems the rules have changed.

How do you keep up with that?

Richard Perry
05-02-2007, 01:45 PM
My suggestion was offered as someone who has more than 20 years of experience in jobs that involved a significant amount of writing (including my present job writing decisions for administrative law judges), as someone who has certification in teaching English as a foreign language, and as the author of three books. It is from experience that I tell you this: grammar and punctuation still matter.

You didn't need to reply on that. That's why I started calling you Doctor. The correction was swift and precise, without a thought of my feelings. Good job Doctor Chan. Wouldn't be interested in offering you're services to an aspiring writer with a lot of creativity, but lacking composition. (I still laugh when I hear about a jangleing participle) It did not take me long to see a superior.

God bless....

Chan
05-02-2007, 02:12 PM
This is true but as Bro. Perry stated, it seems the rules have changed.

How do you keep up with that?The rules really haven't changed that much in recent years and editors do keep the changes in mind when they're evaluating manuscripts. I offered my advice to him so that he would have a better chance of getting his manuscript accepted.

Chan
05-02-2007, 02:29 PM
You didn't need to reply on that. That's why I started calling you Doctor. The correction was swift and precise, without a thought of my feelings. Good job Doctor Chan. Wouldn't be interested in offering you're services to an aspiring writer with a lot of creativity, but lacking composition. (I still laugh when I hear about a jangleing participle) It did not take me long to see a superior.

God bless....Your seeming sarcastic parenthetical remark "(I'm quite used to Dr. Chan's critique)" warranted my response. It's because you are an aspiring writer that I made my instructive comments. If you think my comments are harsh, they're extremely gentle compared to what a book editor would tell you if you asked for his critique instead of just submitting your work in the hope that it would be published.

As for that dangling participle, here is some 2007 information:

Dangling participle or hanging participle or unattached participle
Walking back home yesterday, a tree nearly fell on my head. If strict logic is applied to that sentence, it should mean that the tree was walking back home: the subject of the main clause of a sentence (here, a tree) is assumed to be the subject of a phrase attached to the main clause – as in Being shy, she never said a word.

But language does not always keep to the tramlines of strict logic, and it is quite common to find attached phrases applying to some other part of the main clause (here, the 'I' implied by my head). Such phrases usually contain participles: they are called dangling participles, or hanging participles, or unattached participles. In the sentence above, the dangling participle is a present participle walking, but you can also have a dangling past participle: If properly secured, you shouldn't be able to remove the cover.

Dangling participles are not considered acceptable in standard English, so they should be avoided in writing. Recast offending sentences so that the subject of the attached phrase is clear: As I was walking back home yesterday a tree nearly fell on my head; If the cover is properly secured, you shouldn't be able to remove it.

SOURCE (http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/dictionaries/english/data/d0081865.html)

See also: http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Writing/d.html,
http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/grammar/g_dangmod.html and
http://www.bartleby.com/64/C001/047.html.



I would appreciate it if you refrained from insulting doctors by referring to me as one. :)

Richard Perry
05-02-2007, 03:51 PM
In the literary world, the scholars often condescend in their rebukes. I was speaking from the position "been there done that," scenario. My brother is also a technological writer for Gulfstates Toyota and he often smirks at my writing. But, his precious wife has agrees to edit and work with me. I still have trouble with comma's and run-on sentences but I'm improving daily.

The doctor was tongue in cheek. No offence intended to those revered in the profession. I'm just so used to the Doc' greeting, it seemed appropriate to apply it to your pragmatic style of responding.

God Bless....(I was serious about the help. I want to publish the book for the sake of the Jewish people.)

Chan
05-03-2007, 09:32 AM
In the literary world, the scholars often condescend in their rebukes. I was speaking from the position "been there done that," scenario. My brother is also a technological writer for Gulfstates Toyota and he often smirks at my writing. But, his precious wife has agrees to edit and work with me. I still have trouble with comma's and run-on sentences but I'm improving daily.

The doctor was tongue in cheek. No offence intended to those revered in the profession. I'm just so used to the Doc' greeting, it seemed appropriate to apply it to your pragmatic style of responding.

God Bless....(I was serious about the help. I want to publish the book for the sake of the Jewish people.)Here are some books that would be well worth reading:

http://www.amazon.com/Eats-Shoots-Leaves-Tolerance-Punctuation/dp/1592402038/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/104-3408174-6727167?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178206042&sr=8-2

http://www.amazon.com/Between-You-I-Little-English/dp/1402203314/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-3408174-6727167?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178206094&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Essentials-Mastering-English-Concise-Grammar/dp/3110167220/ref=sr_1_2/104-3408174-6727167?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178206142&sr=8-2

http://www.amazon.com/Longman-Dictionary-Common-Errors-Lernmaterialien/dp/3526237522/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-3408174-6727167?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178206250&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Chicago-Manual-Style-University-Press/dp/0226104036/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-3408174-6727167?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178206308&sr=1-1

Pressing-On
05-08-2007, 11:10 AM
The rules really haven't changed that much in recent years and editors do keep the changes in mind when they're evaluating manuscripts. I offered my advice to him so that he would have a better chance of getting his manuscript accepted.
I wish that I was as precise in the English as you are Chancellor. I just don't have the temperament nor the patience for it. I still can't remember all the rules on using a comma after having studied many times.

I locked myself in the alley while taking care of my daughter's store last week. That has to be some kind of indication that I'm just not up to par. :heeheehee

Richard Perry
05-08-2007, 11:28 AM
I wish that I was as precise in the English as you are Chancellor. I just don't have the temperament nor the patience for it. I still can't remember all the rules on using a comma after having studied many times.

I locked myself in the alley while taking care of my daughter's store last week. That has to be some kind of indication that I'm just not up to par. :heeheehee

I don't think the rules of composition have changed much, but the rules of the marketability of the product have. The publishers are less likely to accept good writing than they are "proven", marketable, story lines.

They don't mind using their editors, they just want the agents to do the filtering. That's why its so very hard to get someone else to do the printing. Self-publishing is growing by leaps and bounds.

Pressing-On
05-08-2007, 11:38 AM
I don't think the rules of composition have changed much, but the rules of the marketability of the product have. The publishers are less likely to accept good writing than they are "proven", marketable, story lines.

They don't mind using their editors, they just want the agents to do the filtering. That's why its so very hard to get someone else to do the printing. Self-publishing is growing by leaps and bounds.

Yes it is! I think it's great! Good luck to you!

Chan
05-25-2007, 02:20 PM
I wish that I was as precise in the English as you are Chancellor. I just don't have the temperament nor the patience for it.Besides having a natural affinity for it, I've had to do it in all of my jobs after high school way back in 1981.I still can't remember all the rules on using a comma after having studied many times.That's what reference books are for.

I locked myself in the alley while taking care of my daughter's store last week. That has to be some kind of indication that I'm just not up to par. :heeheeheeI'll leave that one alone. :)