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Raven
02-01-2011, 09:16 PM
Freddy Clark is live now at:
www.theanchorsandiego.com

CC1
02-01-2011, 09:34 PM
Interesting! I have always heard about him but have never seen or heard him preach. I have enjoyed his talented sons music and have seen them in person.

Cindy
02-01-2011, 09:47 PM
Who is Freddy Clark?

pelathais
02-01-2011, 09:51 PM
Who is Freddy Clark?

Kind of an intro here: http://www.oldfashionedrevivals.com/

pelathais
02-01-2011, 09:52 PM
The "fourth dimension" in this universe is generally understood to be time. Maybe his "height" might best be understood as the "Fifth Dimension."

Raven
02-01-2011, 09:54 PM
Evangelist Freddy Clark has been working in the ministry for nearly half a century. He has traveled constantly in crusades and concerts for 47 years.
Brother Clark has a unique gift from God. The people he prays for have testified to genuine miracles and healings in the mighty name of Jesus.

The Clark family, based in Rocky Mount Virginia is widely known for conducting revival crusades and musical concerts featuring bluegrass and country style gospel music.

Freddy and Sylvia Clark were blessed with eleven children including two sets of twins, twin boys and twin girls. Freddy and Sylvia were married on June 7 1973.


Sylvia is a woman of "presence" in word and deed and in song and appearance. She is also the mother of eleven children with amazing patience to do the job.

The children sing and are gifted in musicianship. They have grown up traveling and working with their parents. Their ages range from thirty-four to twelve-years-old. Their names in order are: Alan, Aaron, Adam, Ashley, Andrew, Austin, Alexander, Abraham, Avery, Aimee and Amber. After nine consecutive boys, the Clarks received the heavenly promise of twin girls.

All the children can sing in vocal harmonies and solo as well as play several instruments including rhythm guitar, harmonica, acoustic bass, electric bass, mandolin, mondola, lead guitar, fiddle, Banjo, drums, and dobro.


Freddy, who plays twenty instruments, gave the children lessons. "God imparted musical gifts to my children," Clark said.

All or part of this thirteen-member family can be seen and heard in personal appearances in some part of the Nation. It is truly a moving experience to see this group perform and minister to people in the Spirit.

MissBrattified
02-01-2011, 09:58 PM
Wait a minute! Isn't this the guy that did week of healing at Thads church a couple years ago? I think so.... I never seen so many sick folk in all of my life. Hundreds and hundreds of ailments in a church of about six hundred people... Then repeat the same thing the next night.

Whatcha sayin', Hoovie? :whistle

pelathais
02-01-2011, 09:58 PM
Wait a minute! Isn't this the guy that did week of healing at Thads church a couple years ago? I think so.... I never seen so many sick folk in all of my life. Hundreds and hundreds of ailments in a church of about six hundred people... Then repeat the same thing the next night.

Hey! I've been there. I am there. Keep coming my way with healing! Over and over again.

Cindy
02-01-2011, 10:00 PM
Wow

Hoovie
02-01-2011, 10:06 PM
Hey the post was TIC... At least partly. I have no intent to belittle anyones pain or discomfort in any way shape or form. I have a broken back myself.

I'll be frank... It infuriated me. Benny Hinn style circus IMHO.

ReformedDave
02-01-2011, 10:17 PM
FC is as phony as they come......

RandyWayne
02-01-2011, 10:21 PM
Evangelist Freddy Clark has been working in the ministry for nearly half a century. He has traveled constantly in crusades and concerts for 47 years.
Brother Clark has a unique gift from God. The people he prays for have testified to genuine miracles and healings in the mighty name of Jesus.

The Clark family, based in Rocky Mount Virginia is widely known for conducting revival crusades and musical concerts featuring bluegrass and country style gospel music.

Freddy and Sylvia Clark were blessed with eleven children including two sets of twins, twin boys and twin girls. Freddy and Sylvia were married on June 7 1973.


Sylvia is a woman of "presence" in word and deed and in song and appearance. She is also the mother of eleven children with amazing patience to do the job.

The children sing and are gifted in musicianship. They have grown up traveling and working with their parents. Their ages range from thirty-four to twelve-years-old. Their names in order are: Alan, Aaron, Adam, Ashley, Andrew, Austin, Alexander, Abraham, Avery, Aimee and Amber. After nine consecutive boys, the Clarks received the heavenly promise of twin girls.

All the children can sing in vocal harmonies and solo as well as play several instruments including rhythm guitar, harmonica, acoustic bass, electric bass, mandolin, mondola, lead guitar, fiddle, Banjo, drums, and dobro.


Freddy, who plays twenty instruments, gave the children lessons. "God imparted musical gifts to my children," Clark said.

All or part of this thirteen-member family can be seen and heard in personal appearances in some part of the Nation. It is truly a moving experience to see this group perform and minister to people in the Spirit.

Oh good Lord......

RandyWayne
02-01-2011, 10:22 PM
The only time I ever want to see a large family where every kids name starts with the same letter is if the parents decided to make it challenging, like choosing the letter X.

Once your past Xavier and Xenia you probably have to dive straight into the realm of sci-fi (not that Xavier and Xenia don't qualify for that as well).

CC1
02-01-2011, 10:23 PM
Sermon was interesting but the healing service is painful. I need healing from it. The joking schtick is something else.

mfblume
02-01-2011, 11:21 PM
FC is as phony as they come......

"Phony," my foot. He personally prayed for me about three extremely specific things I told no one about and had been praying for in private. He nailed them on the button in detail! And the prayers he made were answered and I can attest to his genuine moving in the Spirit.

Praxeas
02-02-2011, 12:39 AM
Freddy Clark is live now at:
www.theanchorsandiego.com
That must be why they are preaching at Larsons. I reported recently they were to preach at a nearby church..I have my opinions but I'll reserve them for now..

Oh wait...I thought the title hear said Freddy Clark LIVES at San Diego...ok yeah. Well I don't know why he went there but there isn't much to hear.

I heard him at Thads church. All he did was walk around and pull fat people out of the congregation and say "You have back problems , is that right?"

Praxeas
02-02-2011, 12:49 AM
Ok look. There are certain "gimicks" that these kinds of people do or use. I was at a meeting once where a well known UPC "prophet" was warming the folks up for the gifts to operate.

So he goes over the congregation and zooms in on this one woman. He looks at her and says "You have borderline anemia"...now he could have been wrong...what is borderline anemia? Anyways, this woman had anemia and you could tell by looking at her face. Dark circles under the eyes, face a little pale.

So too at this event Freddie Clark was doing, he picks out some obese folks and declares God told him they had back problems...I was like, what fat person doesn't?!?!

But I've seen this sort of things many times before. No disrespect brother Mike but I don't know what went on with your situation but I feel like some others do when I am in one of these "services"..that there are tricks of the trade these men use. In fact the next service he allowed his son to work over the crowd. It seemed like he was trained to do exactly what his dad did.

In fact it reminded me of the cold readings psychics do...Put hand to forehead. Point to a generalized area and say something like "Is there a...I want to say it starts with an R? A ray over here or maybe someone has a family member that is named Ray? or...oh wait there is a hand. Yes? Ok you have a brother named Ray? And he is in jail now? Ok good"

Im serious. I don't know if they just get lucky sometimes or perhaps they are used in the gifts but hearing from God once about one person in the entire congregation makes for dull healing meetings so they have to fill in the blanks or what...

But I have gone to plenty of these with faith and an open mind and left disappointed at what I saw

canam
02-02-2011, 02:15 AM
Evangelist Freddy Clark has been working in the ministry for nearly half a century. He has traveled constantly in crusades and concerts for 47 years.
Brother Clark has a unique gift from God. The people he prays for have testified to genuine miracles and healings in the mighty name of Jesus.

The Clark family, based in Rocky Mount Virginia is widely known for conducting revival crusades and musical concerts featuring bluegrass and country style gospel music.

Freddy and Sylvia Clark were blessed with eleven children including two sets of twins, twin boys and twin girls. Freddy and Sylvia were married on June 7 1973.


Sylvia is a woman of "presence" in word and deed and in song and appearance. She is also the mother of eleven children with amazing patience to do the job.

The children sing and are gifted in musicianship. They have grown up traveling and working with their parents. Their ages range from thirty-four to twelve-years-old. Their names in order are: Alan, Aaron, Adam, Ashley, Andrew, Austin, Alexander, Abraham, Avery, Aimee and Amber. After nine consecutive boys, the Clarks received the heavenly promise of twin girls.

All the children can sing in vocal harmonies and solo as well as play several instruments including rhythm guitar, harmonica, acoustic bass, electric bass, mandolin, mondola, lead guitar, fiddle, Banjo, drums, and dobro.


Freddy, who plays twenty instruments, gave the children lessons. "God imparted musical gifts to my children," Clark said.

All or part of this thirteen-member family can be seen and heard in personal appearances in some part of the Nation. It is truly a moving experience to see this group perform and minister to people in the Spirit.In addittion 3 of the boys Adam,Ashley,Austin won a tv contest called Next Great American Band against 10,000 other bands calling themselves Sons of Sylvia and just finished touring with Carrie Underwood ,a close friend,for a year.Kind of a pop,country thing.

Praxeas
02-02-2011, 02:52 AM
They are actually pretty good, for bluegrass

CC1
02-02-2011, 08:00 AM
Ok look. There are certain "gimicks" that these kinds of people do or use. I was at a meeting once where a well known UPC "prophet" was warming the folks up for the gifts to operate.

So he goes over the congregation and zooms in on this one woman. He looks at her and says "You have borderline anemia"...now he could have been wrong...what is borderline anemia? Anyways, this woman had anemia and you could tell by looking at her face. Dark circles under the eyes, face a little pale.

So too at this event Freddie Clark was doing, he picks out some obese folks and declares God told him they had back problems...I was like, what fat person doesn't?!?!

But I've seen this sort of things many times before. No disrespect brother Mike but I don't know what went on with your situation but I feel like some others do when I am in one of these "services"..that there are tricks of the trade these men use. In fact the next service he allowed his son to work over the crowd. It seemed like he was trained to do exactly what his dad did.

In fact it reminded me of the cold readings psychics do...Put hand to forehead. Point to a generalized area and say something like "Is there a...I want to say it starts with an R? A ray over here or maybe someone has a family member that is named Ray? or...oh wait there is a hand. Yes? Ok you have a brother named Ray? And he is in jail now? Ok good"

Im serious. I don't know if they just get lucky sometimes or perhaps they are used in the gifts but hearing from God once about one person in the entire congregation makes for dull healing meetings so they have to fill in the blanks or what...

But I have gone to plenty of these with faith and an open mind and left disappointed at what I saw

Great post. I have no doubt that some people do get healed at a BH or FC type meeting but it is due to their faith. I don't know FC but over the years my opinon is that many of these "faith healers" and people who go around with a "word of knowledge" start out sincere and genuine but over time things change. They either become cynical or there is such a pressure to perform that they start using the methods you outlined in your post.

If a church / pastor promotes a healing service and pays for a man to come do it he is under pressure to deliver. Over time that probably affects many of them in how they approach things. These type services really do remind me of gypsy's "psychic" services.

CC1
02-02-2011, 08:18 AM
They are actually pretty good, for bluegrass

They are better than pretty good. The Clark boys are great. My kids were part of the taping of a Country Music special for teens back around 2000 at the Wildhorse in Nashville and that is where I first saw and heard them. Back then they were the "Clark Family Experience".

They had a very bad record deal with Curb records. Had great success as the opening act for major country artists but it took Curb two or three years to bring out their first CD and then it did not do well.

ABC actually looked at doing a tv series with them but didn't pick it up. They set a legal precedent by being the first musical artists to get out of a record deal by including it in their bankruptcy filing.

For a long time I thought maybe Carrie Underwood and one of the boys were romantically involved as you never saw her sing without him behind or beside her playing his "fiddle" (Tennessee talk).

ReformedDave
02-02-2011, 08:32 AM
It's amazing how people fall for the 'slight of mind' tactics. Expectations, experience, and desperation fuel this. Prax, your post nailed it.

mfblume
02-02-2011, 08:40 AM
No disrespect brother Mike but I don't know what went on with your situation but I feel like some others do when I am in one of these "services"..that there are tricks of the trade these men use. In fact the next service he allowed his son to work over the crowd. It seemed like he was trained to do exactly what his dad did.

We need to be careful about this sort of thing. If God is really doing this, and people are dissing it, then I think they may in hot water with the Lord. Yes, there are fakes, but it is true when Christ said "By reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of." We can throw out the baby with the bathwater.

Let me tell you what happened to me. I noted how Freddy nailed three extremely specific issues in my life when he prayed for me that were by no means generalizations that anyone could guess. I had been praying for three things. Before I got into ministry, having been called of God to preach, I was receiving thoughts from the Lord that I could not articulate. I could not put them into words. I could not preach them! (I learned years later from a book about ministering the Word that revelation will come to your spirit, and if you are not matured in hearing from the Lord your mind cannot "translate" what your spirit is picking up. That was exactly what I was experiencing. I cannot think of a better way to describe it.) So I prayed for this.

Secondly, I wanted to get more insight and revelation from the Bible as I studied it.

Thirdly, I had actually prayed for healing for a man with whom I worked in the sign shop where I painted signs. He was healed instantly! When my boss complained of a migraine, I offered prayer for him, and he told me to go for it. I prayed and he was not healed. I went home all discouraged and told the Lord I did not want to bring reproach to Him by praying for someone and them not being healed, especially a sinner. Let me know when and when not to pray for people.

So, I went to one of Freddy's meetings shortly after. He called me out of the congregation and told me he was going to pray for three things. My eyes, my mouth and my hand. he proceeded to explain that the reason he was praying for my mouth was because I was desiring to SPEAK God's Word, and he said he saw M-I-N-I-S-T-R-Y written all over me. He tried to explain what he meant, and said I was wanting to say what God was giving me, and asked if I knew what he meant. I said, "OH YES I DO!" I was astounded. That was one of the very things I specifcally prayed about.

Then he said he would pray for my eyes because I was wanting to SEE in the Bible and the reading of God's word. I was wanting God to show me things in the Word. Again, I almost fell on the floor! I prayed PRECISELY for that!

Thirdly he prayed for my hands because he said I wanted to know when to pray for people for healing and when not to pray.

My oh my, I could not believe how he specifically nailed the very three things I distinctly had been praying about. It really gave me an awareness of how GOD HEARS OUR PRAYERS!

So, he grabbed my hand and prayed, and put his hand on my eyes and prayed for me to see revelation, and put his hand on my mouth to pray that I would speak what God gives me to speak.

Later, I was in a service where I suddenly felt God wanted someone to be prayed for for healing. Recall the third thing I prayed for. I spoke it out when the song service had a lull and they were getting ready to sing again, and said, "Someone here needs prayer for healing." Then suddenly more words came to me after I said that, which were, "In fact someone came here and specifically asked God to heal them in this very service." We were having house meetings with about 8 people! No crowd to enhance generalization.

The pastors wife starting weeping and said she was suffering and specifically asked God to tell someone in that service to pray for her. We prayed, and she told us the next service she had not been sleeping in weeks, and that night i prayed for her was the first night she slept well in so long!

My bible studies advanced as I studied and would get illumination from the Word. I began to preach what God was putting in my heart with ease! It all came to pass!

We have seen so little of this sort of thing, that the first thing people do is doubt it. "Charlatans!", we holler. Well,m you can holler all you want, but I know what I experienced.

I was also in a meeting where he ministered and he called out a young man and said, "Sir, you have had open heart surgery." The guy nodded and said yes.

While we visited with Freddy at his house later that day, a minister called him up and said how he doubted that sort ministry just as I see here on this forum. He said he would doubt no more because when Freddy called out that guy and said he had open heart surgery, that was nothing general and simply far too uncommon for Freddy to be guessing and pulling tricks.

All true, folks! I solidly believe in this.

I personally have been used of God as well in this to an extent.

One day while ministering, I prayed for a man and it suddenly came to me that he was having a terrible time at his workplace with one specific individual who was tormenting him about his christianity. I told him God would help him with that.

I thought to myself, BOYS, I hope I was right! Phew. The guy never indicated whether I was right or not.

So I went and came back in a few weeks to preach in the same church. The same man came up in the prayer line and said he needed more prayer about that guy he was working with who was pestering him so much about his Christianity. PRAISE GOD!

Yes there are the fakes, but I experienced this personally, and Freddy nailed three things one after the other that were far from guesswork and generalizations. Do not cast out the true just because we've heard of some fakes.

canam
02-02-2011, 11:39 AM
They are actually pretty good, for bluegrass:)

Theophil
02-02-2011, 11:49 AM
FC is as phony as they come......

That is untrue. YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND CEASE SLANDERING A MAN OF GOD.

Hoovie
02-02-2011, 11:52 AM
Let's just say it's complicated.

canam
02-02-2011, 11:55 AM
Agreed MFB ,ive seen it from all angles i guess,my dad(upc) told how FC mailed him a piece of cloth and said if he mailed him some money he would be financially blessed (dad didnt ,he said FC was the only one who would be blessed) They used to attend the same church before FC was married .I was told 3rd hand by family that when they attended his tent meetings (used to travel with a trailer and tent towed by a caddy)that he told one lady she had a growth(she was preggie and not showing)and he told a man he had cancer, after he had been told by someone else before the service. Then i saw him pray for my pastor and he nailed some things spot on,so i dont know what to think ,i believe it can happen and used to and do still enjoy , the Bro's Bustard minstries.

canam
02-02-2011, 12:00 PM
FC is as phony as they come......

I dont believe that, he can be wrong at times, but he aint a phony ,he is a good man to my knowledge and sincere and considers himself OP even though both he and his wife attended Zion Bible college i believe. He is no fraud for sure IMO!

ReformedDave
02-02-2011, 12:03 PM
I dont believe that, he can be wrong at times, but he aint a phony ,he is a good man to my knowledge and sincere and considers himself OP even though both he and his wife attended Zion Bible college i believe. He is no fraud for sure IMO!

I understand your conflict but since I've 'stepped back' I've come to vastly different conclusions.

canam
02-02-2011, 12:05 PM
They are better than pretty good. The Clark boys are great. My kids were part of the taping of a Country Music special for teens back around 2000 at the Wildhorse in Nashville and that is where I first saw and heard them. Back then they were the "Clark Family Experience".

They had a very bad record deal with Curb records. Had great success as the opening act for major country artists but it took Curb two or three years to bring out their first CD and then it did not do well.

ABC actually looked at doing a tv series with them but didn't pick it up. They set a legal precedent by being the first musical artists to get out of a record deal by including it in their bankruptcy filing.

For a long time I thought maybe Carrie Underwood and one of the boys were romantically involved as you never saw her sing without him behind or beside her playing his "fiddle" (Tennessee talk).:) Thought the same thing (with the lead singer)but nope, he is married and so is Carrie now.She is so smokin,:) but his wife is very pretty too.

Praxeas
02-02-2011, 12:21 PM
Great post. I have no doubt that some people do get healed at a BH or FC type meeting but it is due to their faith. I don't know FC but over the years my opinon is that many of these "faith healers" and people who go around with a "word of knowledge" start out sincere and genuine but over time things change. They either become cynical or there is such a pressure to perform that they start using the methods you outlined in your post.

If a church / pastor promotes a healing service and pays for a man to come do it he is under pressure to deliver. Over time that probably affects many of them in how they approach things. These type services really do remind me of gypsy's "psychic" services.
There is a LOT of pressure and it's all on one man to perform instead of being on the church in general and in the Lord's time instead of NOW, THIS SERVICE and THIS MAN.

Praxeas
02-02-2011, 12:22 PM
They are better than pretty good. The Clark boys are great. My kids were part of the taping of a Country Music special for teens back around 2000 at the Wildhorse in Nashville and that is where I first saw and heard them. Back then they were the "Clark Family Experience".

They had a very bad record deal with Curb records. Had great success as the opening act for major country artists but it took Curb two or three years to bring out their first CD and then it did not do well.

ABC actually looked at doing a tv series with them but didn't pick it up. They set a legal precedent by being the first musical artists to get out of a record deal by including it in their bankruptcy filing.

For a long time I thought maybe Carrie Underwood and one of the boys were romantically involved as you never saw her sing without him behind or beside her playing his "fiddle" (Tennessee talk).
I agree, but not my kind of music. They need a drummer

mfblume
02-02-2011, 03:49 PM
Agreed MFB ,ive seen it from all angles i guess,my dad(upc) told how FC mailed him a piece of cloth and said if he mailed him some money he would be financially blessed (dad didnt ,he said FC was the only one who would be blessed) They used to attend the same church before FC was married .I was told 3rd hand by family that when they attended his tent meetings (used to travel with a trailer and tent towed by a caddy)that he told one lady she had a growth(she was preggie and not showing)and he told a man he had cancer, after he had been told by someone else before the service. Then i saw him pray for my pastor and he nailed some things spot on,so i dont know what to think ,i believe it can happen and used to and do still enjoy , the Bro's Bustard minstries.

The Bustards are uncles of mine, and they, too, operate like this. VERY specific as well, not anything general. I personally know all these folks and they are genuine. I know firsthand.

pelathais
02-02-2011, 04:02 PM
Hey the post was TIC... At least partly. I have no intent to belittle anyones pain or discomfort in any way shape or form. I have a broken back myself.

I'll be frank... It infuriated me. Benny Hinn style circus IMHO.

Those are insensitive and hurtful things to do with people who are actually hurting. Jesus said, "Heal the sick" (Matthew 10:8), not "Put on a show and by slight of hand 'heal' some bystanders while ignoring the real needs of people in the hospitals."

I don't know the gentleman under discussion here so I can't really comment on him in any meaningful fashion, but what you've said is in general, right on.

canam
02-02-2011, 05:17 PM
The Bustards are uncles of mine, and they, too, operate like this. VERY specific as well, not anything general. I personally know all these folks and they are genuine. I know firsthand.

:thumbsup They spoke regularly at my childhood churchs