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Scott Hutchinson
05-13-2007, 07:55 PM
We know that the Holy Spirit was active in the Old Testament as well as in The New Testament but was the difference between the Spirit's role in the OT.that differs from it's role in the New Testament ?
I would like to hear from others on this.
I have drawn some conclusions ,but I like to hear other's views.

SDG
05-13-2007, 08:00 PM
Are you a Trinitarian Scott????

Scott Hutchinson
05-13-2007, 08:05 PM
Are you a Trinitarian Scott????

Hey I'm more Oneness than you.

SDG
05-13-2007, 08:08 PM
Doesn't sound like it ... with this thread.....

Scott Hutchinson
05-13-2007, 08:16 PM
Personally I don't how my question could sound trinltarian.
Bro.Daniel was the Holy Ghost Or Holy Spirit poured out on all flesh in The OT. ?

Scott Hutchinson
05-13-2007, 08:19 PM
BTW I firmly hold to the confession that all of the fullness of divinity is in Jesus Christ ,He is the almighty as well as The One True God.He is the only God in heaven.
There never has been three persons in a Godhead?

Sam
05-13-2007, 08:26 PM
Standard teaching on the person and work of the Holy Spirit starts at Genesis 1:1-2 with the Spirit of God hovering like a dove over the fluid face of the earth. In the Old Testament God was
1. Father (sovereign king over all, originator of all, father figure to Israel) and was everywhere present at all times. He was the invisible God.
2. Word/Logos/Memra (God who was sent, God who was localized, God made visible, God who interacted with humankind on a personal basis, God who could be seen with the eyes, God who could be felt with the hands) some times called the Angel of YHWH.
3. Spirit of God (God dwelling within, God moving upon, God energizing and gifting people) as such He was the manifested presence instead of the omni-presence

SDG
05-13-2007, 08:27 PM
Personally I don't how my question could sound trinltarian.
Bro.Daniel was the Holy Ghost Or Holy Spirit poured out on all flesh in The OT. ?

The promise .... Scott .... is what's different ....

Scott Hutchinson
05-13-2007, 08:30 PM
Bro.Sam did the Holy Ghost do a regenerational work in the OT?
Or did individuals receive regeneration by The Holy Spirit in the OT ?

Scott Hutchinson
05-13-2007, 08:31 PM
The promise .... Scott .... is what's different ....

So would you say there were some functions of The Holy Ghost that are stricly NT. activity ?

SDG
05-13-2007, 08:33 PM
being born of God is being born of God

Sam
05-13-2007, 08:50 PM
Bro.Sam did the Holy Ghost do a regenerational work in the OT?
Or did individuals receive regeneration by The Holy Spirit in the OT ?

Well, I think so, but there are differences of opinion on that.

When Jesus said, "We speak what we know and testify what we have seen..." when He was speaking to Nicodemus, I think He meant that He and His disciples were familiar with a "new birth" experience and that folks at that time had been born again.

In my opinion, the differences between OT and NT experiences in the Spirit are:
1. In the OT, the Holy Spirit seemed to be limited in His activity to Israel while in the NT He is universal in His activity. He is poured out on all flesh.
2. In the OT, folks did not seem to have a confidence in the abiding of the Holy Spirit. I think He hung around God's people and even indwelt them but they did not have the assurance of His every day presence like we do in the NT.
3. The Holy Spirit was with/in all of God's people but His power and gifting was only evident in a select few. He would "come upon" a person and through them would do exploits. He gifted them in special ways for special ministries. He "bubbled up" from within and caused men and women to prophesy. (I have heard somewhere that one of the definitions of the word navi or prophet was bubble up). In the NT He comes into our heart at regeneration and also comes upon us in power equipping us and releasing gifts in us. In my opinion, that would be the difference between salvation and the Holy Ghost baptism. In the OT, these folks upon whom the Spirit moved in these special ways were few and far between but in the NT we all can have that special enduement of His power and release of His gifts.
4. As far as I know, the experience of a baptism/immersion/saturation/overwhelming in the Holy Spirit was first prophesied by John and then promised by Jesus. This metaphor was not used in the OT. Filling with the Holy Spirit is both an OT and NT experience.

Note, these are my opinions.

Scott Hutchinson
05-13-2007, 08:56 PM
Well, I think so, but there are differences of opinion on that.

When Jesus said, "We speak what we know and testify what we have seen..." when He was speaking to Nicodemus, I think He meant that He and His disciples were familiar with a "new birth" experience and that folks at that time had been born again.

In my opinion, the differences between OT and NT experiences in the Spirit are:
1. In the OT, the Holy Spirit seemed to be limited in His activity to Israel while in the NT He is universal in His activity. He is poured out on all flesh.
2. In the OT, folks did not seem to have a confidence in the abiding of the Holy Spirit. I think He hung around God's people and even indwelt them but they did not have the assurance of His every day presence like we do in the NT.
3. The Holy Spirit was with/in all of God's people but His power and gifting was only evident in a select few. He would "come upon" a person and through them would do exploits. He gifted them in special ways for special ministries. He "bubbled up" from within and caused men and women to prophesy. (I have heard somewhere that one of the definitions of the word navi or prophet was bubble up). In the NT He comes into our heart at regeneration and also comes upon us in power equipping us and releasing gifts in us. In my opinion, that would be the difference between salvation and the Holy Ghost baptism. In the OT, these folks upon whom the Spirit moved in these special ways were few and far between but in the NT we all can have that special enduement of His power and release of His gifts.
4. As far as I know, the experience of a baptism/immersion/saturation/overwhelming in the Holy Spirit was first prophesied by John and then promised by Jesus. This metaphor was not used in the OT. Filling with the Holy Spirit is both an OT and NT experience.

Note, these are my opinions.

I appreciate your views and I consider what you say.