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Hoovie
03-12-2018, 06:21 PM
Matt Maddix of Soulwinner Bootcamp -

Anyone know his current status or affiliation? He does a lot motivational speaking...

Is he Pentecostal?

Michael The Disciple
03-12-2018, 06:52 PM
Never heard of him.

Esaias
03-12-2018, 07:16 PM
What? The guy actually posted here awhile back, I think.

He's UPC or at least independent.
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?t=19273
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?t=7613
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?t=37093

consapente89
03-12-2018, 07:42 PM
I think he is backslid.

Evang.Benincasa
03-12-2018, 07:52 PM
I think he is backslid.

How far did he slide?

consapente89
03-12-2018, 08:17 PM
How far did he slide?

Saw a post sometime back where he was distancing himself from Pentecostals and discussing the number of days he had went without drinking alcohol.

consapente89
03-12-2018, 08:24 PM
His "preaching" has no cross, no repentance, humility or self denial. His message is very "self" driven.

TJJJ
03-12-2018, 08:58 PM
His son was seen on twitter I believe, used the f bomb a lot.

Evang.Benincasa
03-12-2018, 09:02 PM
Saw a post sometime back where he was distancing himself from Pentecostals and discussing the number of days he had went without drinking alcohol.

He was distancing himself because he is a drinker?

Probably believes Billy Graham is in heaven sharing a cigar with Charles Spurgeon.

Evang.Benincasa
03-12-2018, 09:03 PM
His son was seen on twitter I believe, used the f bomb a lot.

F Bombs?

Are those the ones that bring forth Sulphur Demons?

houston
03-13-2018, 01:13 AM
F Bombs?

Are those the ones that bring forth Sulphur Demons?

Haha. No. Profanity.

CC1
03-13-2018, 06:33 PM
Matt Maddix of Soulwinner Bootcamp -

Anyone know his current status or affiliation? He does a lot motivational speaking...

Is he Pentecostal?

Good question. I did not know he had left the UPC but have not seen or heard anything about him in a long time. It seemed when he went through his divorce he just tried to keep on going without missing a beat.

If he has morally fallen I take no joy in it although he was one of my least favorite preachers and is one that would make me ashamed to be associated with. All of the wild flips, somersaults, etc acting like a nutcase while behind the pulpit were just nuts.

On the other hand I had read where when he pastored in Florida his church had many differnt kinds of outreaches to the community that i did think were great. I am talking meeting some physical needs with no strings attached for folks to see christians showing the love of Christ as an example. I believe they gave a lot of turkeys away to the poor at Thanksgiving, and maybe cold bottles of water on hot days at busy stoplights.

Now I am curious and will have to see if the google machine has any updates on Jumping Matt Maddix.

CC1
03-13-2018, 06:44 PM
Here is some info from google;

https://teammaddix.clickfunnels.com/optin13923119

https://www.facebook.com/matt.maddix

https://maddixpublishing.com/mp-home

houston
03-13-2018, 08:44 PM
http://habitudewarriorconference.com/phoenix

Nitehawk013
03-14-2018, 05:44 AM
An acquaintance of mine pastors a small home missions church in Alaska. within the last year he had Matt Maddix there to preach, so he does still do at least some preaching. I never heard anything more about the "revival" after this pastor talked up having him come for weeks. No reports of anything really. Maybe that is telling, maybe it isn't.

From my POV, I went to both Maddix and his son's Facebook pages a few months ago when a local pastor was advertising his Maddix Publishing business. Here is what I noticed from spending way WAAAYYYY too much time on both pages.

First, almost 0 mention at all of Jesus, Apostolic churches, going to church, being a minister, promoting any home church or any church at all. Red flag number 1.

Next, almost every post is about nothing but money and success. All about how much success he wants. How hard he works for it. How he wants you to hire him to come speak to your company and make you successful. Constant flow of posts about all these other "self help" gurus like Tony Robbins and Grant Cardone that he hob knobs with now. How he and his son are always flying to California or Malibu or (insert fancy rich place here) to be with some other big name rich celebrity self help coach.

Finally, and most annoying to me, he constantly pimps his son as the greatest teenager in history because he writes books and is going to make a million dollars by his 18th birthday or some such nonsense. I don't have the stomach to hear a teenager with no real life experience giving self help advice. Apparently there is a market for it though as this kid sells these dumb books.

Overall, I hesitate to judge only on social media posts because perhaps they have chosen to keep their faith a secret and use social media only for business and promoting their livelihood. But my gut tells me the guy went through a very bad situation/divorce, something went bad with the church and so he washed his hand so fit and now just embraces the "get rich and try to encourage and build up people and that will be enough to satisfy and save you" mentality. The guys does a lot of feeding the hungry and homeless. Awesome. You can still find yourself damned for eternity while feeding the homeless. Get yourself and you kid in a good church and get your spiritual lives right and focused instead of chasing more money and name recognition.

I don't know him so I can't say for sure. What I can say is that his and his kid's pages make me sad and sometimes disgusted that a guy who was working very hard for the Kingdom (even if I didn't agree with some of his methods) now seems to only strive to build his and his kids little castles on earth.

TJJJ
03-14-2018, 06:56 AM
F Bombs?

Are those the ones that bring forth Sulphur Demons?

:heeheehee

RachelRose
03-14-2018, 07:01 AM
He was distancing himself because he is a drinker?

Probably believes Billy Graham is in heaven sharing a cigar with Charles Spurgeon.

OUCH!

Was Charles Spurgeon a smoker? Which reminds me, Dr. Gene Scott would preach and smoke at the SAME TIME on public TV when I lived in CA many years again.

CC1
03-14-2018, 09:21 PM
An acquaintance of mine pastors a small home missions church in Alaska. within the last year he had Matt Maddix there to preach, so he does still do at least some preaching. I never heard anything more about the "revival" after this pastor talked up having him come for weeks. No reports of anything really. Maybe that is telling, maybe it isn't.

From my POV, I went to both Maddix and his son's Facebook pages a few months ago when a local pastor was advertising his Maddix Publishing business. Here is what I noticed from spending way WAAAYYYY too much time on both pages.

First, almost 0 mention at all of Jesus, Apostolic churches, going to church, being a minister, promoting any home church or any church at all. Red flag number 1.

Next, almost every post is about nothing but money and success. All about how much success he wants. How hard he works for it. How he wants you to hire him to come speak to your company and make you successful. Constant flow of posts about all these other "self help" gurus like Tony Robbins and Grant Cardone that he hob knobs with now. How he and his son are always flying to California or Malibu or (insert fancy rich place here) to be with some other big name rich celebrity self help coach.

Finally, and most annoying to me, he constantly pimps his son as the greatest teenager in history because he writes books and is going to make a million dollars by his 18th birthday or some such nonsense. I don't have the stomach to hear a teenager with no real life experience giving self help advice. Apparently there is a market for it though as this kid sells these dumb books.

Overall, I hesitate to judge only on social media posts because perhaps they have chosen to keep their faith a secret and use social media only for business and promoting their livelihood. But my gut tells me the guy went through a very bad situation/divorce, something went bad with the church and so he washed his hand so fit and now just embraces the "get rich and try to encourage and build up people and that will be enough to satisfy and save you" mentality. The guys does a lot of feeding the hungry and homeless. Awesome. You can still find yourself damned for eternity while feeding the homeless. Get yourself and you kid in a good church and get your spiritual lives right and focused instead of chasing more money and name recognition.

I don't know him so I can't say for sure. What I can say is that his and his kid's pages make me sad and sometimes disgusted that a guy who was working very hard for the Kingdom (even if I didn't agree with some of his methods) now seems to only strive to build his and his kids little castles on earth.

I watched a few minutes of a video promoting his publishing business and what jumped out at me was him promoting that if you bought his publishing package him and his 15 year old son would guide you. I thought to myself this is not a sales pitch that appeals to me. I don't know too many adults who feel a 15 year old is equipped to guide them in a business venture.

Originalist
03-15-2018, 03:34 PM
I had some dealings with him back in the 90's when he was a popular, up and coming Evangelist in the UPCI. A nice, sincere guy. But he was symptomatic of what is wrong often times with our views on "revival". He would literally JUMP up on the pulpit while preaching, in one leap. It was these kinds of theatrics that impressed people and made him in demand, not the substance of his message. "Oh if we just get a guy in here like Maddix, we will have revival!" is what I often heard.

Originalist
03-15-2018, 03:38 PM
OUCH!

Was Charles Spurgeon a smoker? Which reminds me, Dr. Gene Scott would preach and smoke at the SAME TIME on public TV when I lived in CA many years again.

Spurgeon would puff on a cigar on occasion, but stopped the practice. Different time and culture. Why anyone would want to misrepresent him like that to you is beyond me. But some Apostolics only feel secure when putting other groups down.

CC1
03-15-2018, 08:40 PM
I had some dealings with him back in the 90's when he was a popular, up and coming Evangelist in the UPCI. A nice, sincere guy. But he was symptomatic of what is wrong often times with our views on "revival". He would literally JUMP up on the pulpit while preaching, in one leap. It was these kinds of theatrics that impressed people and made him in demand, not the substance of his message. "Oh if we just get a guy in here like Maddix, we will have revival!" is what I often heard.

It was "those kind of theatrics" that I saw watching him on a POA webcast of a Sunday night service a few years ago that made me think he was a nutcase.

It astounds me that this kind of nonsense appeals to some people. I think this guy has probably found his niche hawking positive thinking and book publishing.

Esaias
03-16-2018, 12:10 AM
Are any of these "theatrics" on video? Links?

houston
03-16-2018, 01:00 AM
Are any of these "theatrics" on video? Links?

3:20

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AcA4aj_l_VU

Esaias
03-16-2018, 01:29 AM
So, the guy was all hung ho about evangelism, and now he's doing the Tony Robbins thing?

houston
03-16-2018, 01:43 AM
Yes.

Evang.Benincasa
03-16-2018, 04:56 AM
3:20

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AcA4aj_l_VU

What a fake.

JamesGlen
03-16-2018, 06:19 AM
What a fake.

Could it be, THE ONLY FAKE ONE IS YOU?

During that time when Matt Maddix spent passionately trying to reach the world with Acts 2:38 and follow up bible studies, feeding the homeless, widows ministry, Saturday outreach mowing neighborhood lawns etc, as a venue for the gospel, in the best way he knew how, all you seem to do is try to put everyone, including him, in hell, for not obeying your errorless, flawless, perfected, ungood news of your 4 and no more, un-gospel. And he’s the fake?

Evang.Benincasa
03-16-2018, 09:55 AM
Could it be, THE ONLY FAKE ONE IS YOU?

During that time when Matt Maddix spent passionately trying to reach the world with Acts 2:38 and follow up bible studies, feeding the homeless, widows ministry, Saturday outreach mowing neighborhood lawns etc, as a venue for the gospel, in the best way he knew how, all you seem to do is try to put everyone, including him, in hell, for not obeying your errorless, flawless, perfected, ungood news of your 4 and no more, un-gospel. And he’s the fake?

Emphasis on the word “spent”

Jim, go put on your pajamas because you must be dreaming. :heeheehee

houston
03-16-2018, 12:26 PM
What a fake.

Sadly, this is the kind of stuff... nevermind.

Evang.Benincasa
03-16-2018, 01:09 PM
Could it be, THE ONLY FAKE ONE IS YOU?

During that time when Matt Maddix spent passionately trying to reach the world with Acts 2:38 and follow up bible studies, feeding the homeless, widows ministry, Saturday outreach mowing neighborhood lawns etc, as a venue for the gospel, in the best way he knew how, all you seem to do is try to put everyone, including him, in hell, for not obeying your errorless, flawless, perfected, ungood news of your 4 and no more, un-gospel. And he’s the fake?

Do you go to a UPCI church?

n david
03-16-2018, 01:34 PM
I knew MM at Bible School. His dorm room was across from mine. He had a large chart on his wall with names of people he met in stores or on the street. He would mark the chart for Home Bible Studies taught, when they were baptized or filled with the HG and others he met through them. Every night before going to bed and every morning when we woke up, we could hear MM praying in his dorm room. He spoke with most anyone he met - clerk at a store counter, homeless on the street and others.

I didn't have much contact with him after leaving school in the mid 90s. I spoke with him on the phone back in '07 or so, when he was still doing the Soul Winner's Bootcamp.

I won't speak badly of him, because he was a good friend. The MM I knew wasn't fake. He loved God and loved people.

Evang.Benincasa
03-16-2018, 01:50 PM
I knew MM at Bible School. His dorm room was across from mine. He had a large chart on his wall with names of people he met in stores or on the street. He would mark the chart for Home Bible Studies taught, when they were baptized or filled with the HG and others he met through them. Every night before going to bed and every morning when we woke up, we could hear MM praying in his dorm room. He spoke with most anyone he met - clerk at a store counter, homeless on the street and others.

I didn't have much contact with him after leaving school in the mid 90s. I spoke with him on the phone back in '07 or so, when he was still doing the Soul Winner's Bootcamp.

I won't speak badly of him, because he was a good friend. The MM I knew wasn't fake. He loved God and loved people.


Bro, he was your friend, then I apologize to YOU if I offended YOU.

Whatever he was once, didn't make it to the BOTT pulpit. That was a completely ridiculous display of monkey shines. I don't know the guy from Adam's house cat, but first impressions are lasting ones. Again, I love you, and my apologies are to you.

aegsm76
03-16-2018, 02:37 PM
MM was sincere and passionate about souls.
However, he took his eyes off the main thing and that led to personal situations sending him astray.
I hope that some day he finds his way back.
And if anyone still has him preaching for them, all they are getting is a water from a broken cistern.

n david
03-16-2018, 02:42 PM
Bro, he was your friend, then I apologize to YOU if I offended YOU.

Whatever he was once, didn't make it to the BOTT pulpit. That was a completely ridiculous display of monkey shines. I don't know the guy from Adam's house cat, but first impressions are lasting ones. Again, I love you, and my apologies are to you.
No offense taken. The BOTT message with MM standing on the pulpit wasn't what I remembered of him. The videos I've seen recently on Youtube of MM aren't what I remember of him either.

I agree it's ridiculous when preachers use theatrics (standing on the pulpit). A year or two before going to bible school, I visited the school during an open house weekend. Bro. AM preached one of the nights. The services were at New Life in Bridgeton. IIRC either Jim Roam still pastored then or it had just changed to Jerry Jones. Anyway, during one part of the message, AM ran across the top of about 10 or 12 pews. I thought for sure he was going to fall, but he didn't. Powerful message, but didn't need the pew run.

berkeley
08-05-2018, 09:12 PM
Matt Maddix of Soulwinner Bootcamp -

Anyone know his current status or affiliation? He does a lot motivational speaking...

Is he Pentecostal?

*bump for....

TakingDominion
08-05-2018, 09:56 PM
*bump for....

Why?

berkeley
08-05-2018, 10:02 PM
Not for you. Keep it moving.
Why?

1ofthechosen
08-05-2018, 10:05 PM
3:20

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AcA4aj_l_VU

SMH.. Forward rolls in the Name of Jesus?

berkeley
08-05-2018, 10:10 PM
SMH.. Forward rolls in the Name of Jesus?


Well... the more wild the better, right?

1ofthechosen
08-05-2018, 10:12 PM
Well... the more wild the better, right?


At the circus maybe,but not at church..

berkeley
08-05-2018, 10:13 PM
At the circus maybe,but not at church..


Where I’m from... ah, nevermind.

consapente89
08-06-2018, 08:34 AM
SMH.. Forward rolls in the Name of Jesus?

you've never rolled on the floor?

Esaias
08-06-2018, 08:55 AM
you've never rolled on the floor?

Maybe they haven't gotten past forward straddle rolls at his church?

:heeheehee

berkeley
08-06-2018, 09:24 AM
you've never rolled on the floor?
Naw.

berkeley
08-06-2018, 09:25 AM
Maybe they haven't gotten past forward straddle rolls at his church?

:heeheehee

:heeheehee

1ofthechosen
08-06-2018, 10:32 AM
you've never rolled on the floor?

People do, not like they are doing a lineman drill though.

Apostolic1ness
08-06-2018, 10:58 AM
People do, not like they are doing a lineman drill though.

im an active roller.

berkeley
08-06-2018, 11:08 AM
im an active roller.

what, why?

Amanah
08-06-2018, 11:33 AM
im an active roller.

pics please!

n david
08-06-2018, 11:37 AM
I haven't seen a "roller" since at least the mid-90s. That was my brother.

berkeley
08-06-2018, 11:39 AM
pics please!

video

Sherri
06-26-2019, 11:22 AM
Anyone seen his stuff lately?? Who is this guy anyway? The name is familiar.
Lots and lots of profanity on FB. 😩😩
Scary stuff. Seriously.

Apostolic1ness
06-26-2019, 11:28 AM
Anyone seen his stuff lately?? Who is this guy anyway? The name is familiar.
Lots and lots of profanity on FB. 😩😩
Scary stuff. Seriously.

I think he's just another guy who the UPC promoted before he was mature enough to handle the spotlight and it completely ruined him.

n david
06-26-2019, 11:59 AM
:(

n david
06-26-2019, 12:00 PM
I think he's just another guy who the UPC promoted before he was mature enough to handle the spotlight and it completely ruined him.
Don't blame the organization for this. It's not the fault of the UPC.

aegsm76
06-26-2019, 01:08 PM
I think he's just another guy who the UPC promoted before he was mature enough to handle the spotlight and it completely ruined him.

Yeah, let's blame the UPC for this mess.
Should we then blame Paul because Demas left the truth?
Or blame Jesus for Judas?

His issue is the love of money.
And the power that goes along with it.

navygoat1998
06-26-2019, 01:50 PM
Yeah, let's blame the UPC for this mess.
Should we then blame Paul because Demas left the truth?
Or blame Jesus for Judas?

His issue is the love of money.
And the power that goes along with it.

I am not even a fan of the UPC, but is not fair to cast blame their way. Many a preacher, from many an organization have walked away from their first love for the love of manna.

n david
06-26-2019, 02:12 PM
Man is broken over the lost of his best friend. He's also very angry over what happened with JA and BOTT.

aegsm76
06-26-2019, 02:16 PM
Man is broken over the lost of his best friend. He's also very angry over what happened with JA and BOTT.

nd - some of that may have been the tipping point.
However, it started long ago.

Apostolic1ness
06-26-2019, 02:24 PM
Yeah, let's blame the UPC for this mess.
Should we then blame Paul because Demas left the truth?
Or blame Jesus for Judas?

His issue is the love of money.
And the power that goes along with it.

Im not blaming the UPC totally, its his life right.
Im just saying the leadership of the UPC at the time when he was so popular promoted him beyond his ability to handle it.

diakonos
06-26-2019, 04:10 PM
I am not even a fan of the UPC, but is not fair to cast blame their way. Many a preacher, from many an organization have walked away from their first love for the love of manna.

Mammon.

aegsm76
06-26-2019, 04:28 PM
Im not blaming the UPC totally, its his life right.
Im just saying the leadership of the UPC at the time when he was so popular promoted him beyond his ability to handle it.

I have to disagree.
Primarily because he handled it well, at the time.
But, he started a long slide several years back.
Unfortunately, I had a front row seat...

TakingDominion
06-26-2019, 05:26 PM
Man is broken over the lost of his best friend. He's also very angry over what happened with JA and BOTT.

Who was his best friend? And what happened at BOTT?

n david
06-26-2019, 05:48 PM
Who was his best friend? And what happened at BOTT?
Someone who died of cancer.

There's a whole thread on AFF about it somewhere. JA said some things during a message which upset a lot of ministers. He has not preached at BOTT since, and even was removed from preaching at some camp meetings or conferences.

I don't know all he allegedly said. I did see a video clip of one remark about another minister which wasn't nice. Allegedly he made a comment or two about Obama as well.

Ironically, I watched an old BOTT message by both LS and JA recently and when introducing both, AM stated that both would preach at BOTT every year. LS hasn't preached there since the 90s, not sure why he hasn't been back. Would be great to have both preach at BOTT next year though.

n david
06-26-2019, 05:53 PM
nd - some of that may have been the tipping point.
However, it started long ago.
In the video I watched, it's certainly the catalyst for the new cursing, drinking, cigar-smoking MM. He mentioned several times the death of his friend and death of another UPC minister from years ago and how he missed them.

I agree his downward slide started long ago though.

Sherri
06-26-2019, 08:55 PM
I just find the whole thing terribly sad. Evidently at one time, he had a lot of potential.

TakingDominion
06-26-2019, 09:02 PM
In the video I watched, it's certainly the catalyst for the new cursing, drinking, cigar-smoking MM. He mentioned several times the death of his friend and death of another UPC minister from years ago and how he missed them.

I agree his downward slide started long ago though.

It started when money became more important than the kingdom

TakingDominion
06-26-2019, 09:04 PM
Someone who died of cancer.

There's a whole thread on AFF about it somewhere. JA said some things during a message which upset a lot of ministers. He has not preached at BOTT since, and even was removed from preaching at some camp meetings or conferences.

I don't know all he allegedly said. I did see a video clip of one remark about another minister which wasn't nice. Allegedly he made a comment or two about Obama as well.

Ironically, I watched an old BOTT message by both LS and JA recently and when introducing both, AM stated that both would preach at BOTT every year. LS hasn't preached there since the 90s, not sure why he hasn't been back. Would be great to have both preach at BOTT next year though.

I'll never forget the message he preached at BOTT "Get Addicted"

TakingDominion
06-26-2019, 09:18 PM
Someone who died of cancer.

There's a whole thread on AFF about it somewhere. JA said some things during a message which upset a lot of ministers. He has not preached at BOTT since, and even was removed from preaching at some camp meetings or conferences.

I don't know all he allegedly said. I did see a video clip of one remark about another minister which wasn't nice. Allegedly he made a comment or two about Obama as well.

Ironically, I watched an old BOTT message by both LS and JA recently and when introducing both, AM stated that both would preach at BOTT every year. LS hasn't preached there since the 90s, not sure why he hasn't been back. Would be great to have both preach at BOTT next year though.

I'll never forget the message he preached at BOTT "Get Addicted"

Originalist
06-27-2019, 07:43 PM
So what has he been saying lately?

Esaias
06-27-2019, 07:45 PM
So what has he been saying lately?

Something about Deut 22:5?

CC1
06-27-2019, 08:41 PM
The first time I watched a POA video of MM on a Sunday night doing flips and other such nonsense I thought he was a nutjob. I have not see nthe videos referenced here with cursing, etc but I watched part of one or two of his "movitiational" videos with his young teen son a year or two ago and it was just sad.

When his wife left him and the UPC and his big time Pastor buddies didn't have him take some time off and go through counseling and a rehab process I remember thinking in his flesh he is going to feel invincible and that is a dangerous thing.

I remember many years ago a very popular evangelist who was known for having memoriezed the bible. He was highly revered but traveled almost non stop leaving his wife and children at home. I remember a friend of hers telling me how miserable she was and let down by her husband. No matter how close to God or religious someone may be or seem to be they can still miss some very basic principels of life and Christianity like God wanting a man to take care of his family not just financially but in many other ways that are more important.Balance is something some seemingly successful people fail at spectacularly.

JoeBandy
06-28-2019, 06:28 AM
The first time I watched a POA video of MM on a Sunday night doing flips and other such nonsense I thought he was a nutjob. I have not see nthe videos referenced here with cursing, etc but I watched part of one or two of his "movitiational" videos with his young teen son a year or two ago and it was just sad.

When his wife left him and the UPC and his big time Pastor buddies didn't have him take some time off and go through counseling and a rehab process I remember thinking in his flesh he is going to feel invincible and that is a dangerous thing.

I remember many years ago a very popular evangelist who was known for having memoriezed the bible. He was highly revered but traveled almost non stop leaving his wife and children at home. I remember a friend of hers telling me how miserable she was and let down by her husband. No matter how close to God or religious someone may be or seem to be they can still miss some very basic principels of life and Christianity like God wanting a man to take care of his family not just financially but in many other ways that are more important.Balance is something some seemingly successful people fail at spectacularly.

You said a mouthful there!

consapente89
06-28-2019, 08:07 AM
The first time I watched a POA video of MM on a Sunday night doing flips and other such nonsense I thought he was a nutjob. I have not see nthe videos referenced here with cursing, etc but I watched part of one or two of his "movitiational" videos with his young teen son a year or two ago and it was just sad.

When his wife left him and the UPC and his big time Pastor buddies didn't have him take some time off and go through counseling and a rehab process I remember thinking in his flesh he is going to feel invincible and that is a dangerous thing.

I remember many years ago a very popular evangelist who was known for having memoriezed the bible. He was highly revered but traveled almost non stop leaving his wife and children at home. I remember a friend of hers telling me how miserable she was and let down by her husband. No matter how close to God or religious someone may be or seem to be they can still miss some very basic principels of life and Christianity like God wanting a man to take care of his family not just financially but in many other ways that are more important.Balance is something some seemingly successful people fail at spectacularly.

I really can't believe I'm about to......

AMEN! :highfive

Ehud
06-28-2019, 11:44 AM
...

I remember many years ago a very popular evangelist who was known for having memoriezed the bible. He was highly revered but traveled almost non stop leaving his wife and children at home. I remember a friend of hers telling me how miserable she was and let down by her husband. No matter how close to God or religious someone may be or seem to be they can still miss some very basic principels of life and Christianity like God wanting a man to take care of his family not just financially but in many other ways that are more important.Balance is something some seemingly successful people fail at spectacularly.

Absolutely, brother! :thumbsup

aegsm76
06-28-2019, 02:21 PM
The first time I watched a POA video of MM on a Sunday night doing flips and other such nonsense I thought he was a nutjob. I have not see nthe videos referenced here with cursing, etc but I watched part of one or two of his "movitiational" videos with his young teen son a year or two ago and it was just sad.

When his wife left him and the UPC and his big time Pastor buddies didn't have him take some time off and go through counseling and a rehab process I remember thinking in his flesh he is going to feel invincible and that is a dangerous thing.

I remember many years ago a very popular evangelist who was known for having memoriezed the bible. He was highly revered but traveled almost non stop leaving his wife and children at home. I remember a friend of hers telling me how miserable she was and let down by her husband. No matter how close to God or religious someone may be or seem to be they can still miss some very basic principels of life and Christianity like God wanting a man to take care of his family not just financially but in many other ways that are more important.Balance is something some seemingly successful people fail at spectacularly.

CC - he was so advised. So, don't blame the all of the big time Pastor buddies.

JoeBandy
06-28-2019, 02:28 PM
He was fake then ... he is fake now...…...

n david
06-28-2019, 02:45 PM
He was fake then ... he is fake now...…...
When I knew Matt, he wasn't fake. I don't believe he's being fake now, unfortunately.

Evang.Benincasa
06-29-2019, 05:59 AM
Anyone seen his stuff lately?? Who is this guy anyway? The name is familiar.
Lots and lots of profanity on FB. 😩😩
Scary stuff. Seriously.

Father and son.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTmIBSksQ50&ab_channel=CalebMaddix

Evang.Benincasa
06-29-2019, 06:06 AM
Something about Deut 22:5?


:lol

Evang.Benincasa
06-29-2019, 06:24 AM
I am not even a fan of the UPC, but is not fair to cast blame their way. Many a preacher, from many an organization have walked away from their first love for the love of manna.

The only reason that we even talk about Pentecost is because we are in it. But, it is the human experience. The problem with anything is because it has the unregenerate human factor. Whether it is a cult, a religion, police officers, judges, politics, business. People make life choices, either you will do the right thing or not. You have to consider the cost for you, and if you haven't figured it what it will eventually cost you, you will drop the ball while you are on your journey. The guy who was once flipping and somersaulting across POA platform, to the applauds of the Pentecostal elite, is now cursing like Popeye on FB? Pretty much it was apparent to one and all way before he came to where he is now. Sheriff caught punching inmate handcuffed to hospital bed. One, the officer is in his twenties, which youth isn't a preditermanate to you making really bad choices, but it can be . Now that Broward Sheriff has a decision to make which will effect the rest of his journey. Maddix, was loved and hated, still is, our opinions concerning him mean nothing to him, and his family. Our opinions of him sure mean a lot to us, and teach us that what we saw in the beginning was what we always believed. Whether we love him or hate him. People are people, Listen, there are people who LOVE Hillary Clinton and would want her to be president of the world. People who love Joe Biden. You may be one of them.

So, let's put Matt Maddix on our prayer list and hope someday everything will turn out Biblically correct for the chap. His son looks like he loves his father, and that is cool. I hope everyone will pray for this family in Jesus name.

n david
06-29-2019, 04:33 PM
So, let's put Matt Maddix on our prayer list and hope someday everything will turn out Biblically correct for the chap. His son looks like he loves his father, and that is cool. I hope everyone will pray for this family in Jesus name.

:thumbsup :highfive

Evang.Benincasa
06-29-2019, 06:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB1SkYn_-9I&ab_channel=BradenAndersen

Evang.Benincasa
06-29-2019, 06:14 PM
Standing on a pulpit


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-niqYEVqvk&ab_channel=BecauseoftheTimes

Birddog
06-29-2019, 07:34 PM
Probably wishes he would have stuck with baseball.....

Whatever happened to his wife?

Did she stay in church?

Lots of these guys lose their families in their quest to have "Church growth".

Maybe God is not as interested in their numbers as they think He is.

Sherri
06-29-2019, 07:59 PM
Probably wishes he would have stuck with baseball.....

Whatever happened to his wife?

Did she stay in church?

Lots of these guys lose their families in their quest to have "Church growth".

Maybe God is not as interested in their numbers as they think He is.

From what I understand, she has remained faithful to God.

Birddog
06-29-2019, 08:06 PM
From what I understand, she has remained faithful to God.

Good for her.

TakingDominion
06-29-2019, 08:43 PM
Standing on a pulpit


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-niqYEVqvk&ab_channel=BecauseoftheTimes

Didn't he pastor in St Petersburg FL for awhile?

Pooky
06-29-2019, 08:54 PM
I went to his st Pete church for a while. He was definitely wild in his preaching but fed the homeless every single Sunday in the church building after service.
I then went to the church where his wife was attending. She was and is a strong Christian woman.

Evang.Benincasa
06-29-2019, 08:55 PM
Didn't he pastor in St Petersburg FL for awhile?

Yep, still think he is still in Florida.

Evang.Benincasa
06-29-2019, 08:56 PM
I went to his st Pete church for a while. He was definitely wild in his preaching but fed the homeless every single Sunday in the church building after service.
I then went to the church where his wife was attending. She was and is a strong Christian woman.

Awesome.

Evang.Benincasa
06-29-2019, 08:58 PM
Probably wishes he would have stuck with baseball.....

Whatever happened to his wife?

Did she stay in church?

Lots of these guys lose their families in their quest to have "Church growth".

Maybe God is not as interested in their numbers as they think He is.

It was and is never about quantity, but quality.

TakingDominion
06-29-2019, 09:27 PM
Yep, still think he is still in Florida.

Didn't your paths ever cross in St Pete?

diakonos
06-29-2019, 11:07 PM
From what I understand, she has remained faithful to God.

Never heard of him, but you know about his ex wife? :nah

Evang.Benincasa
06-30-2019, 05:51 AM
Didn't your paths ever cross in St Pete?

No. I live in South Florida.

Evang.Benincasa
06-30-2019, 05:52 AM
Never heard of him, but you know about his ex wife? :nah

Ex wife maybe better know? :dunno

CC1
06-30-2019, 02:08 PM
Didn't he pastor in St Petersburg FL for awhile?

Yup and by all accounts had a heart to reach his city, partricularly the homeless. That was the one thing that I knew about him I liked.

Evang.Benincasa
06-30-2019, 02:54 PM
Yup and by all accounts had a heart to reach his city, partricularly the homeless. That was the one thing that I knew about him I liked.

Reaching "homeless" is dealing with the spirit world. It is a level, that standing on top of a pulpit does not achieve. Feeding them plate lunches, handing them bottles of water, or dry socks (something which means more to them than food) doesn't come close to help. Matt Maddix was only doing what he felt was expected of him. There was another preacher who was a "homeless" feeder, and pack the house with 'drug dealers" type of missionary. I can't remember his name, but Monterey might know who I'm thinking about. Monterey who was that guy?