An Interview with William Branham...interesting..

[revrandy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw4tHTgQVt8&mode=related&search=


I am NOT a Branhamite... but from the threads on here that have been posted some seemed interested... but Branham's Interview may shed some light...it's mostly him talking about him...

Said he recieved visions about people...said when he was 36 a man came to him... Seems to say he saw Jesus in Human Form as God and was given instruction that he would be given a ministry to heal people and see into peoples hearts...

[revrandy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2iQyTFfZbc&mode=related&search=

Says there is an angel of God standing two foot from him sent by God with the Gift of Healing...

Chicago Service 1947.... interesting..

[revrandy]

Seems to say the angel is Jesus....and speaks to him directly...

[Steve Epley]

Who knows??????????????

M. E. Burr believed it was a demon and he was a shaman? He was at Houston when the halo picture was taken.

[mfblume]

He spoke of the ANGEL OF THE LORD and the Holy Ghost. I believe this was genuine. He later erred in false doctrine, though. I dfo not believe it was a deivl. Otheriwse, the devil's house would have been divided against itself.

[revrandy]

Who knows??????????????

M. E. Burr believed it was a demon and he was a shaman? He was at Houston when the halo picture was taken.

Bro. Ep.. this video is an actual interview with him... nothing else... don't know if you watched it..

[Michael The Disciple]

Did Branham possess the fruit of the Spirit? Did anyone convict him of sin?

[mfblume]

I know folks who met him personally... Sister Nilah (Mean) Rutledge who traveled with ex-nun Sister Charlotte. She said she never met a man with more love of God than Wm. Branham.

[Ferd]

Did Branham possess the fruit of the Spirit? Did anyone convict him of sin?

Is calling yourself Elijah a sin?

[Ferd]

Like Brother E, I wont argue about the mans beginnings but his end was about as far from God as one can get. The fruit of that is with us to this day in the churchs that have elevated his spoken word to the level of scripture.

[revrandy]

I was told that Bro. TW Barnes said there is a gray line between the Spirit and Occult.... and some if they are not careful can cross that line....

Do you think that Branham might have crossed that line in later years??

[mfblume]

I was told that Bro. TW Barnes said there is a gray line between the Spirit and Occult.... and some if they are not careful can cross that line....

Do you think that Branham might have crossed that line in later years??

Speaking of Bro Barnes, he personally claimed he spoke to Branham sometime before Branham's death, and Branham stated he no longer believed the serpent seed doctrine, and did not know how to stop it.

Barnes believed Branham was saved, though had been wrong but repentant of the wrong before he died.

[Steve Epley]

Bro. Ep.. this video is an actual interview with him... nothing else... don't know if you watched it..

More times than I have fingers and toes years ago before it was a video. I have seen all three Branham films.

[mfblume]

More times than I have fingers and toes years ago before it was a video. I have seen all three Branham films.

Bro Epley, do you believe he was genuine when he ministered in word of knowledge (discernment as he called it), and was able to name names?

[Steve Epley]

Speaking of Bro Barnes, he personally claimed he spoke to Branham sometime before Branham's death, and Branham stated he no longer believed the serpent seed doctrine, and did not know how to stop it.

Barnes believed Branham was saved, though had been wrong but repentant of the wrong before he died.

That is incorrect he was on his way home to preach on "The Trail of the Serpent" which he was going to bring the serpent seed from Genesis to Revelation it is on tape just a few days before he died. I invite you to call Perry Green pastor of Tucson Tabnernacle Branham said this in his church before leaving on his trip to Indiana. Elders Barnes memory is incorrect. I invite you to listen to the 1965 tapes he preached it publicly in these messages and there are more than a few. The evidence is overwhelming Elder Barnes was incorrect. WHERE did he repent????????????? NOT on tape and NOT in public and he lost consciousness at the wreck and NEVER came to until he died 6 days later. Remember I know the family. Pastor Green was at the hospital all 6 days also. Call him.

[Steve Epley]

Bro Epley, do you believe he was genuine when he ministered in word of knowledge (discernment as he called it), and was able to name names?

He missed some I do know that?

There is a question in my mind concerning the prayer cards?

[mfblume]

That is incorrect he was on his way home to preach on "The Trail of the Serpent" which he was going to bring the serpent seed from Genesis to Revelation it is on tape just a few days before he died. I invite you to call Perry Green pastor of Tucson Tabnernacle Branham said this in his church before leaving on his trip to Indiana. Elders Barnes memory is incorrect. I invite you to listen to the 1965 tapes he preached it publicly in these messages and there are more than a few. The evidence is overwhelming Elder Barnes was incorrect. WHERE did he repent????????????? NOT on tape and NOT in public and he lost consciousness at the wreck and NEVER came to until he died 6 days later. Remember I know the family. Pastor Green was at the hospital all 6 days also. Call him.

Well, that is what Bro Barnes said.

[Steve Epley]

Well, that is what Bro Barnes said.

Not impugning Elder Barnes but he was definitely incorrect and it can be proven quite easily.

[CC1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw4tHTgQVt8&mode=related&search=


I am NOT a Branhamite... but from the threads on here that have been posted some seemed interested... but Branham's Interview may shed some light...it's mostly him talking about him...

Said he recieved visions about people...said when he was 36 a man came to him... Seems to say he saw Jesus in Human Form as God and was given instruction that he would be given a ministry to heal people and see into peoples hearts...

And I thought he was dead!:haloplug

[Sister Alvear]

strange how many people I know got messed up in SS doctrine...

[mfblume]

Not impugning Elder Barnes but he was definitely incorrect and it can be proven quite easily.

I heard Kenneth Reeves also knew Branham, and said Branham was mistaken, but sincerely mistaken, and believed he was still saved.

Kenneth Hagin wrote a book about THE ANOINTING, and although he never named Branham, anyone who knows Branham's story knew he was speaking of Branham when he wrote about an evangelist. He said this evangelist was mightily used in the supernatural, but went into bizarre teachings. He said Gordon Lindsay tried to help the man realize he was not a Teacher but an Evangelist. And the man responded, "But I like to teach."

Hagin noted Uzziah's error in wanting to be priest as well as king, but how God did not anoint him for priesthood. So God smote Uzziah with leprosy. He said this is what happened to this evangelist.

Before Branham died, Hagin was in a restaurant and the spirit of prophecy came upon him and he told the folks with him they had to leave right away so he could prophesy. The prophecy went something like this,"His works follow him and he shall meet his reward and be saved, but 'ere '66 he shall die."

[Steve Epley]

I heard Kenneth Reeves also knew Branham, and said Branham was mistaken, but sincerely mistaken, and believed he was still saved.

Kenneth Hagin wrote a book about THE ANOINTING, and although he never named Branham, anyone who knows Branham's story knew he was speaking of Branham when he wrote about an evangelist. He said this evangelist was mightily used in the supernatural, but went into bizarre teachings. He said Gordon Lindsay tried to help the man realize he was not a Teacher but an Evangelist. And the man responded, "But I like to teach."

Hagin noted Uzziah's error in wanting to be priest as well as king, but how God did not anoint him for priesthood. So God smote Uzziah with leprosy. He said this is what happened to this evangelist.

Before Branham died, Hagin was in a restaurant and the spirit of prophecy came upon him and he told the folks with him they had to leave right away so he could prophesy. The prophecy went something like this,"His reward follows him and he shall be saved, but 'ere '66 he shall die."

Hagin has as much credibilty as BH with me. His erroneous teachings are nearly as far off as Branham's. At least Branham baptized in Jesus Name and believed Jesus was God.

[mfblume]

Hagin has as much credibilty as BH with me. His erroneous teachings are nearly as far off as Branham's. At least Branham baptized in Jesus Name and believed Jesus was God.

I agree. But he claimed he foretold Branhams' death.

[Sister Alvear]

It is not up to me to say who is saved and who is not saved but I will say he was in gross error. His SS message ruined many homes. He is in the hands of a merciful but just God...so that is where I leave him. I personally went to his meetings several times but I was very young and remember healings and miracles but healings and miracles also happen at Catholic shrines...

[Steve Epley]

I agree. But he claimed he foretold Branhams' death.

I doubt that I know lots of guys who claimed that but no one knew it until he died.

[Sister Alvear]

Lots of good men ran after his messages...A lesson for all of us to be careful who we run after...

[mfblume]

Lots of good men ran after his messages...A lesson for all of us to be careful who we run after...

AMEN!

[Sister Alvear]

I have or had I left most of it in the south, lots of his books and booklets, tapes etc...Marriage and divorce was really far out...at least in my opinion.

[Sister Alvear]

Sometimes the "in" thing and most "anointed" preacher is dangerous...

[mfblume]

I have or had I left most of it in the south, lots of his books and booklets, tapes etc...Marriage and divorce was really far out...at least in my opinion.

I read that booklet as well. It is FAR OUT! Branham seemed to have a hate for women. He said that a godly woman is precious and better than most anything, but an ungodly woman is not worth the bullet to shoot her with. WHEW!

[Steve Epley]

I have or had I left most of it in the south, lots of his books and booklets, tapes etc...Marriage and divorce was really far out...at least in my opinion.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Michael The Disciple]

Well if fruit incudes our doctrine I would say Branham has as much chance as most Apostolic Preachers. They teach much false doctrine till this day and are praised for it regularly by their followers.

[kenod]

I read that booklet as well. It is FAR OUT! Branham seemed to have a hate for women. He said that a godly woman is precious and better than most anything, but an ungodly woman is not worth the bullet to shoot her with. WHEW!

When I heard the sermon where William Branham was telling his life story, he said that was how he felt when he was still an unsaved youth. He was very critical of ungodly women, but he said the Lord rebuked him when he began to personally criticise a woman behaving crudely in public. He was able to lead the same woman to the Lord.

[Brother Strange]

[QUOTE=mfblume;163965]I heard Kenneth Reeves also knew Branham, and said Branham was mistaken, but sincerely mistaken, and believed he was still saved.

You are right.

I spoke to brother Reeves many times. I had breakfast with him the last time only a couple of years before he died. We talked about many things dealing with matters of the supernatural since he was also a man of great experience in these things. KR did not doubt his salvation or his honest sincerety though so mistaken in regards to a couple of matters, especially of the SS doctrine.

Kenneth Hagin wrote a book about THE ANOINTING, and although he never named Branham, anyone who knows Branham's story knew he was speaking of Branham when he wrote about an evangelist. He said this evangelist was mightily used in the supernatural, but went into bizarre teachings. He said Gordon Lindsay tried to help the man realize he was not a Teacher but an Evangelist. And the man responded, "But I like to teach."

That is also the truth.

However, it was not in regard to the SS doctrine. Gordon Lindsay was dead long before Branham started teaching that horrible doctrine. Lindsay and Branham were best of friends, having been very close associates on the Evangelistic and Missionary fields who together, formed the Voice of Healing. He saw Branham straying from his calling. Lindsay knew that it was only a matter of time before Branham would fall into some error by straying out of his Prophetic calling. If anyone could reach Branham at all, it would have been either Jack Moore or Gordon Lindsay. Jack Moore, a UPCI pastor together with Lindsay attempted to counsel with him. It was then that Branham said that he "wanted to teach."

Hagin noted Uzziah's error in wanting to be priest as well as king, but how God did not anoint him for priesthood. So God smote Uzziah with leprosy. He said this is what happened to this evangelist.

Reminds me of a certain man whom we all love that "wanted to" step over into the office of a Prophet. Before a very large gathering of UPCI preachers prophecied concerning the "rising again to fill his pulpit and to preach again," a preacher dying with cancer, who never lifted his head off his death pillow. Stepping out of one's own calling is dangerous as noted in the case of Uzziah.

Before Branham died, Hagin was in a restaurant and the spirit of prophecy came upon him and he told the folks with him they had to leave right away so he could prophesy. The prophecy went something like this,"His works follow him and he shall meet his reward and be saved, but 'ere '66 he shall die."

I never heard this report before, though I am usually up todate on such matters, having known many of the men in those circles in years gone by. It would be interesting to learn the source of this report.

Truly KH was/is a prophet. I do not know if he is still alive or not since I have not had contact with some of these people in quite a few years. But, I would not doubt the story in the least.

It is true, as Elder Epley said, he did not repent of his SS doctrine before his death.

When I got news of his death on Christmas day of 1965, I went into a very mournful state of mind. I wept for many days without ceasing. It seemed that my very soul would come out of me. It would be hard to explain the state that I was in.

I was overseas looking at myself in the mirror trying to shave with tears running down my face. I had been questioning God about his death. One of the few times that I ever heard what I thought was an audible voice spoke to me saying, "My glory I will not give to another." Instantly, I understood. I recalled how so many people adored and worshipped him. Some even baptized in the name of Branham.

From that day forward, my tears dried and I never questioned again.

[Timmy]

Hagin has as much credibilty as BH with me. His erroneous teachings are nearly as far off as Branham's.

Hey Elder E, here's a shocker: I agree with you 100%! :sshhh

[Steve Epley]

Hey Elder E, here's a shocker: I agree with you 100%! :sshhh

Call the law Timmy and I agree.:driving:driving

Branham was a false prophet in his prophecies-teachings though he may have been sincere in his early ministry from in the late 50's he changed after his nervous breakdown. I do think those around him mold him instead of him molding them. Those "Latter Rain" cast offs has propehcied Elijah was coming and he became their Elijah. GL was a thief. He stoled Branham's paper and tent. Branham wouldn't have listen to him. Howver he did preach for Moore in 65 a few months before his death.

[Brother Strange]

Call the law Timmy and I agree.:driving:driving

Branham was a false prophet in his prophecies-teachings though he may have been sincere in his early ministry from in the late 50's he changed after his nervous breakdown. I do think those around him mold him instead of him molding them. Those "Latter Rain" cast offs has propehcied Elijah was coming and he became their Elijah. GL was a thief. He stoled Branham's paper and tent. Branham wouldn't have listen to him. Howver he did preach for Moore in 65 a few months before his death.

Did Branham said that Lindsay was a theif? NO! He NEVER said anything like that.

Did Jack Moore ever say that Lindsay was a theif? NO! He NEVER said anything like that either.

That report is not right, though I heard it too. I happened to know the full story from VOH insiders very close to the situation. The same thing that happened to Branham happened to other VOH preachers that ended up with the formation, expansion and the eventual Christ For The Nations world outreach. But, these reports of theft is not right, though misinterpreted by some jealous men who had other agendas.

There is a difference in a "request" and a "theft."

[Steve Epley]

Did Branham said that Lindsay was a theif? NO! He NEVER said anything like that.

Did Jack Moore ever say that Lindsay was a theif? NO! He NEVER said anything like that either.

That report is not right, though I heard it too. I happened to know the full story from VOH insiders very close to the situation. The same thing that happened to Branham happened to other VOH preachers that ended up with the formation, expansion and the eventual Christ For The Nations world outreach. But, these reports of theft is not right, though misinterpreted by some jealous men who had other agendas.

There is a difference in a "request" and a "theft."

Yes he said he stoled his paper it's on tape somewhere? Been too many years to recall where. But there were some real bad feelings about the paper and the tent. But it has been many years since I was privy to all this so my memory is somewhat foggy but I do remember Branham saying his tent and paper was stolen and alluded to Linsay. And didn't he take someone's wife also or is my memory faulty?

[Brother Strange]

Yes he said he stoled his paper it's on tape somewhere? Been too many years to recall where. But there were some real bad feelings about the paper and the tent. But it has been many years since I was privy to all this so my memory is somewhat foggy but I do remember Branham saying his tent and paper was stolen and alluded to Linsay. And didn't he take someone's wife also or is my memory faulty?

J.C. Bishop took Hoekstra's wife. Neither did Lindsay or Branham take anyone else's wife.

There was some resentment from Branham concerning the "request," but evidently that resentment did not go so far as to break all fellowship...though strained. Branham was a naive business man. That was the purpose of Lindsay. Lindsay was a very astute business man. Branham being such a juvenile in business affairs, refusing to listen to Lindsay ended up in a HUGE hole with the IRS. Branham said that he did not owe the IRS, though Lindsay said that he DID. Brahham decided to go ahead and pay the IRS a little at a time saying that people would say, "where there is smoke there is fire." Had he listened to Lindsay, Branham would not have gotten himself caught in such a crack and squeeze.

But, at least Lindsay was able to salvage a lot though Branham never understood how much he had done for him. Branham could have ended up in a lot worse circumstance.

Lindsay never stole anything. He was a very astute business man who understood the finer points of doing business that the very uneducated, though hard headed Branham never understood....thus the resentment.

It is no disgrace to be uneducated, but when you combine a hard head with an empty one, you have the makings of a misunderstanding. But that misunderstanding was not on the part of Lindsay, a very upright man of the highest integrity.

[DividedThigh]

there is a branhamite church not far from here, that actually uses his tapes on midweek services, the error to me is obviously that anyone would elevate anyones words to scripture, imho, most of the people that i know that are members there are good people caught up in the error, dt:hypercoffee

[Steve Epley]

J.C. Bishop took Hoekstra's wife. Neither did Lindsay or Branham take anyone else's wife.

There was some resentment from Branham concerning the "request," but evidently that resentment did not go so far as to break all fellowship...though strained. Branham was a naive business man. That was the purpose of Lindsay. Lindsay was a very astute business man. Branham being such a juvenile in business affairs, refusing to listen to Lindsay ended up in a HUGE hole with the IRS. Branham said that he did not owe the IRS, though Lindsay said that he DID. Brahham decided to go ahead and pay the IRS a little at a time saying that people would say, "where there is smoke there is fire." Had he listened to Lindsay, Branham would not have gotten himself caught in such a crack and squeeze.

But, at least Lindsay was able to salvage a lot though Branham never understood how much he had done for him. Branham could have ended up in a lot worse circumstance.

Lindsay never stole anything. He was a very astute business man who understood the finer points of doing business that the very uneducated, though hard headed Branham never understood....thus the resentment.

It is no disgrace to be uneducated, but when you combine a hard head with an empty one, you have the makings of a misunderstanding. But that misunderstanding was not on the part of Lindsay, a very upright man of the highest integrity.

MUch of what you said is so. I thought I was incorrect about the wife thanks.
Branham was not a business man and Lindsay was very astute but in Branham's mind and his followers Lindsay stole his magazine and his tent.

[Thumper]

I can't say that I know one whit about what did or didn't happen around branham's life. All I can say for sure is that the product today of his ministry and teaching has produced some of the most hellish things I have ever come across. I live in an area that has a very large branhamite church and daily see the effects of this so-called prophet. A prophet who could produce such and ungodly mess is no prophet of God to me. I don't care who's aunt Elma got her goiter healed at his tent meeting.

[Brother Strange]

MUch of what you said is so. I thought I was incorrect about the wife thanks.
Branham was not a business man and Lindsay was very astute but in Branham's mind and his followers Lindsay stole his magazine and his tent.

That's right.

The resentment came not so much about the magazine but the very large mailing list that went with the magazine. Lindsay was able to take those names from not only from Branham but from other ministers as well who freely gave that mailing list to Lindsay. With that mailing list, there came into existence the VOH and the VOH magazine which Branham was a part of in the beginning...in fact, he, Moore and Lindsay was the very foundation of it, mostly based on the very large mailing list of Branham which Moore and Lindsay compiled. Moore coorporated with Lindsay in the work of the Magazine which promoted Branham. Later it came to promote other VOH preachers including the likes of Jackson, Hickman, Freeman, Allen, Coe, Hayes, Grant and many others who would have never become known at all except by the promotion of the magazine.

When some of these guys begin to wander into all kinds of strange fire like Never Die, and the error of Garments of Fire by whasisname "Atomic Power With God," fame and many other craazy stuff SS not the least, thugh that may have come later, Lindsay saw the need of "REQUESTING" that all the new names be submitted to the VOH for an update of the mailing list which was growing by leaps and bounds.

But, in that request, he refused to further endorse these many preachers because of the great lot of error creeping in. This generated a lot of resentment since some of these preachers did not retain a copy of their own mailing list fully expecting the VOH to continue promoting their ministries. Alton L. Hayes and I talked about this extensively. At first, he too was resentful and discussed it with Branham who was also resentful. Later, Hayes forgave and dismissed the resentment that he held toward Lindsay and was fully reconciled with him before his death. Love won out in the end. Lindsay held firm in the face of increased error among the fomer VOH minister's error.

Actually, I admire the firm stand of Lindsay. Other ministers such as Coe and Allen elected not to surrender their mailing lists to Lindsay but pulled away from the VOH on their own.

[kenod]

Yes he said he stoled his paper it's on tape somewhere? Been too many years to recall where. But there were some real bad feelings about the paper and the tent. But it has been many years since I was privy to all this so my memory is somewhat foggy but I do remember Branham saying his tent and paper was stolen and alluded to Lindsay

It is an easy matter to check these details as there is a search function at the Voice of God Recordings website (http://www.branham.org/BranhamDefault.asp?lbi=0) which can access all of William Branham's recorded sermons. I simply entered "Lindsay' and "tent" ... I think you would find it enlightening.

[kenod]

I checked out William Branham's teaching on SS after I was told he said some people are the seed of the Serpent (as a result of the sexual union between Eve and the Serpent) and they cannot be saved, while others are the seed of Adam, and they will be saved. I found out that's not what he said at all. Yes, he did say the original sin was adultery, but nowhere did he teach that salvation is anything to do with race or genetic ancestry.

I think the best understanding of what he did say is found in his book "An Exposition of the Seven Church Ages" - the comments contained in this book can be easily found by entering the words serpent and seed in 'Message Search' at the Voice of God Recordings website.

I did not find this idea too remarkable - perhaps because I had heard some Pentecostal ministers teaching that the "sons of God" in Genesis 6:4 were heavenly angels who had sexual relations with human women and produced children who grew up to become giants. Personally, I think there is more Biblical support for William Branham's idea.

And I think we should keep in mind this comment he made about SS: "Course we realize that that doesn't save a man, neither does it condemn a man, but it only brings light upon the subject"

[Steve Epley]

I checked out William Branham's teaching on SS after I was told he said some people are the seed of the Serpent (as a result of the sexual union between Eve and the Serpent) and they cannot be saved, while others are the seed of Adam, and they will be saved. I found out that's not what he said at all. Yes, he did say the original sin was adultery, but nowhere did he teach that salvation is anything to do with race or genetic ancestry.

I think the best understanding of what he did say is found in his book "An Exposition of the Seven Church Ages" - the comments contained in this book can be easily found by entering the words serpent and seed in 'Message Search' at the Voice of God Recordings website.

I did not find this idea too remarkable - perhaps because I had heard some Pentecostal ministers teaching that the "sons of God" in Genesis 6:4 were heavenly angels who had sexual relations with human women and produced children who grew up to become giants. Personally, I think there is more Biblical support for William Branham's idea.

And I think we should keep in mind this comment he made about SS: "Course we realize that that doesn't save a man, neither does it condemn a man, but it only brings light upon the subject"

Branham did teach that the serpent seed was NOT the elect but children of the devil. He said the serpent had a place for a soul but did not have a soul.

[Brother Strange]

I checked out William Branham's teaching on SS after I was told he said some people are the seed of the Serpent (as a result of the sexual union between Eve and the Serpent) and they cannot be saved, while others are the seed of Adam, and they will be saved. I found out that's not what he said at all. Yes, he did say the original sin was adultery, but nowhere did he teach that salvation is anything to do with race or genetic ancestry.

I think the best understanding of what he did say is found in his book "An Exposition of the Seven Church Ages" - the comments contained in this book can be easily found by entering the words serpent and seed in 'Message Search' at the Voice of God Recordings website.

I did not find this idea too remarkable - perhaps because I had heard some Pentecostal ministers teaching that the "sons of God" in Genesis 6:4 were heavenly angels who had sexual relations with human women and produced children who grew up to become giants. Personally, I think there is more Biblical support for William Branham's idea.

And I think we should keep in mind this comment he made about SS: "Course we realize that that doesn't save a man, neither does it condemn a man, but it only brings light upon the subject"

Kenod...

Are you a follower of "The Message?"

In regards to the bolden part above, I've heard a few folk make this absurd speculation without careful thought behind it. Nevertheless, regardless how silly this idea might be, it does not in anyway validate the teachings of the Serpent's Seed.

It is my opinion that rather than being angles, the sons of God were simply the righteous who comingled with the unrighteous daughters of the unrighteous. As conditions grew worse from that unholy union, it brought on the wrath of God that was shown in the flood.

[Steve Epley]

I went to that site I could not pull up ONE hit concerning Lindsay or the tent or the magazine so how reliable is that site?????????????????

[kenod]

I went to that site I could not pull up ONE hit concerning Lindsay or the tent or the magazine so how reliable is that site?????????????????

I find it very reliable ... here's seven for a start

Voice of God Recordings: Message Search (http://nt.scbbs.com/cgi-bin/om_isapi.dll?clientID=123841223&advquery=Lindsay%20tent&infobase=message2006.nfo&record={78F}&softpage=Browse_Frame_Pg42)

[kenod]

Kenod...

Are you a follower of "The Message?"

I believe William Branham was a prophet and a messenger to the Church.

It is my opinion that rather than being angles, the sons of God were simply the righteous who comingled with the unrighteous daughters of the unrighteous. As conditions grew worse from that unholy union, it brought on the wrath of God that was shown in the flood.

I agree with you.

My only purpose in referring to the subject of SS is to say that I cannot find anywhere that Brother Branham taught that some are descended from the serpent and some are descended from Adam. He made a point of Jacob and Esau both coming from godly parents.

He said the only way anyone can be saved is through our own free will choice, and God's will is that everyone be saved ("whosoever will") although we know that not everyone will come. Brother Branham preached that salvation is only through personal faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, and His atoning death on the cross.

[Steve Epley]

I believe William Branham was a prophet and a messenger to the Church.



I agree with you.

My only purpose in referring to the subject of SS is to say that I cannot find anywhere that Brother Branham taught that some are descended from the serpent and some are descended from Adam. He made a point of Jacob and Esau both coming from godly parents.

He said the only way anyone can be saved is through our own free will choice, and God's will is that everyone be saved ("whosoever will") although we know that not everyone will come. Brother Branham preached that salvation is only through personal faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, and His atoning death on the cross.

Branham taught Calvinism that some were elected to be lost have you read the Church Age Book or listened to the Isreal series??????????????
He taught:
Uncondition Election: God from eternity chose some to be saved.
Limited Atonement Jesus died only for the elect
Unconditonal Eternal Security that the elect could not be lost.
He mixed this false doctrine with the false doctrine of the serpent seed(he borrowed from William Sowders) thus had the non-elect the decendants of Cain.
William Branham was a false prophet in his predictions and his doctrines.

I notice the quotes you post( I couldn't figure out how to do so evidently) you quote LONG posts are you trying to evangelize us?????????????????
I will warn you myself and Ferd will not allow you to do this unchallenged. He and I already battled 2 Branhamites that started like you. But if you choose too it will make things interesting. We welcome you to do so but don't be offended when we contest everything you say.

[Steve Epley]

kenod how long have you been associated with the Branham movement?

[kenod]

I notice the quotes you post( I couldn't figure out how to do so evidently) you quote LONG posts are you trying to evangelize us?????????????????


The only quote I have posted was a single sentence! I provided a link to the words you said you could not find in the Message database. The words are highlighted. The link of course is to the complete sermon. Sorry but I can't do anything about that!

No, Steve, I'm not at all interested in evangelizing you. Hope you're not too disappointed :winkgrin

[Ferd]

I am pretty sure we can keep things from being deleted too.

Kenod, Brother Epley and I have had our run ins in real life (he more than I)

and we have had our run ins on message boards like this one.

after more than a thousand posts on the subject, I can say with authority that current day Branhamites believe that those decended from Cane are lost via the seed of the serpent, with no hope of salvation. and those decended from Adam are saved with no hope of being lost.

if you would like we can revisit.

[Steve Epley]

The only quote I have posted was a single sentence! I provided a link to the words you said you could not find in the Message database. The words are highlighted. The link of course is to the complete sermon. Sorry but I can't do anything about that!

No, Steve, I'm not at all interested in evangelizing you. Hope you're not too disappointed :winkgrin

Well it would make for an interesting discussion. How long have you been associated with the Branham message? I know all the children, Joseph married a girl I grew up with, her parents have been friends since I was a boy.
Billy Paul would know me. I know Rebecca & George and Sarah but having seen them in years. I knew 'Doc'. Andes who is the second in command at the publishing house is an acquaintance. I personally knew Vayle, Iverson,Green, Byskal, Frank, Jackson, Robertson, Evans, the Martins, Coleman, Daisly, Andrews, Borders, and many others of yesteryear.

[Sam]

... said ... an ungodly woman is not worth the bullet to shoot her with. WHEW!

Did he say that when he was speaking "in the Spirit"?
Is that an "ex cathedra" pronouncement?
Is that part of the "scripture" from his mouth that is still used by his followers?

[Steve Epley]

Did he say that when he was speaking "in the Spirit"?
Is that an "ex cathedra" pronouncement?
Is that part of the "scripture" from his mouth that is still used by his followers?

In the Marriage & Divorce message he said "a woman was a walking sexual disposal." also he said "Satan was woman's designer"

[kenod]

In the Marriage & Divorce message he said "a woman was a walking sexual disposal." also he said "Satan was woman's designer"

You have left out one word Steve ... he said "an immoral woman".
Marriage & Divorce" (http://nt.scbbs.com/cgi-bin/om_isapi.dll?clientID=54617&advquery=%22immoral%20woman%22%20%22human%20sexual %20garbage%20can%22&infobase=message2006.nfo&record={17F3B}&softpage=Browse_Frame_Pg42)

And note he said 'designer' ... not 'creator'. I think most people can see that today worldly women are 'designed' by Satan to be attractive by their make up, hair dos, high heels, and revealing clothing. Godly women don't go for that stuff.

[kenod]

I can say with authority that current day Branhamites believe that those decended from Cane are lost via the seed of the serpent, with no hope of salvation. and those decended from Adam are saved with no hope of being lost.


Some may believe that, I don't know - there are a lot of different opinions - all I can say is that most people I know who study what William Branham said do not understand it that way. But then, no one I know uses the term 'Branhamite' either.

I always prefer to look at what Wiliam Branham said himself, rather than what other people say he said. I have been studying the sermons and writings of William Branham for five years and I cannot find where he says what you stated above.

[Praxeas]

BTW Welcome to the forum Kenod

[Old Paths]

Branham taught Calvinism that some were elected to be lost have you read the Church Age Book or listened to the Isreal series??????????????
He taught:
Uncondition Election: God from eternity chose some to be saved.
Limited Atonement Jesus died only for the elect
Unconditonal Eternal Security that the elect could not be lost.
He mixed this false doctrine with the false doctrine of the serpent seed(he borrowed from William Sowders) thus had the non-elect the decendants of Cain.
William Branham was a false prophet in his predictions and his doctrines.

I notice the quotes you post( I couldn't figure out how to do so evidently) you quote LONG posts are you trying to evangelize us?????????????????
I will warn you myself and Ferd will not allow you to do this unchallenged. He and I already battled 2 Branhamites that started like you. But if you choose too it will make things interesting. We welcome you to do so but don't be offended when we contest everything you say.



Branham was more Baptist in doctrine than Apostolic.

[kenod]

Did he say that when he was speaking "in the Spirit"?
Is that an "ex cathedra" pronouncement?
Is that part of the "scripture" from his mouth that is still used by his followers?

He said he thought that when he was an unsaved youth. As you can see below, he said he "watches every move" so that he will not think about immoral women in that way again. The more I listen to what he said, the more I get the feeling of compassion he had for every individual man and woman, but how much he hated the sin that bound them.

MY LIFE STORY _ 59-0419A
But I can remember when my father's still up there running, I had to be out there with water and stuff, see young ladies that wasn't over seventeen, eighteen years old, up there with men my age now, drunk. And they'd have to sober them up and give them black coffee, to get home to cook their husband's supper. Oh, something like that, I said, "I..." This was my remark then, "They're not worth a good clean bullet to kill them with it." That's right. And I hated women. That's right. And I just have to watch every move now, to keep from still thinking the same thing.

It's strange that Paul is also regarded as a 'woman hater' by some.

[Bishop1]

Billy Paul

[Ferd]

Sigh. I was hoping for a good discussion with a branhamite.

oh well.

[Brother Strange]

In the Marriage & Divorce message he said "a woman was a walking sexual disposal." also he said "Satan was woman's designer"

Elder,

Do you remember the "dog meat" remark? I was shocked.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Branhamites believe that William Branham was the seventh church age messenger ,and if you aren't in the message your aren't in the bride.

[Steve Epley]

Branham taught polygamy in Marriage & Divorce and some practiced it. The man who began Spoken Word Publications practiced polygamy in a sense he had a woman on the side and his wife and everyone knew it. Pastor Neville was against it and he would not go to Branham Tabernacle because of it. But their were churches throughout the message where this was practiced.

Where was Paul called a 'woman hater?' That came from Branham NOT the Bible like most of the stuff Branham taught.

Go through the Branham messages there is a thread of bais against women in general. Off the wall stuff he would say.

[kenod]

There is some guy in India, I'm told, that baptises in the name of William Marrion Branham. So I don't think it is a good idea to judge what William Branam said by what some people do!

Is Paul considered a woman hater ... some have obviously heard that idea, even if you haven't, Steve. For example:
Many have taken this verse and others within the Pauline Epistles and tried to make out that Paul was a chauvinist, a woman hater, than thus these verses are not inspired Scripture.
plenty more on google (http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:BJ0pWRh4R2UJ:www.woundedheart.org/mday.htm+Paul+woman+hater&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=26&gl=au)

William Branham hated immorality and condemned immoral women ... just like Elijah did... and just like John the Baptist did. The moral decline in women's behaviour in the last century is one of the signs of the times.

[kenod]

Elder,

Do you remember the "dog meat" remark? I was shocked.


I was even more shocked when I found that Elijah said it first!

1 Kings 21:23
And of Jezebel also spake the LORD, saying,
The dogs shall eat Jezebel by the wall of Jezreel.

[Bishop1]

Ya Want More Branham ?

[Old Paths]

Ya Want More Branham ?



Nope.

:D

[kenod]

Regarding remarriage (or polygamy if you prefer) the only grounds I can find in all that William Branham said, was undisclosed premarital sex on the part of the woman.
He based this on Matthew 5:32
But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

It is interesting that Brother Branham refused to marry his eldest son the second time.

He said there are other grounds on which a man may put away his wife, but still he cannot remarry.
Your vow is until death you separate, and there's nothing else in the world will permit you to marry in the Bible until your companion is dead. (Q&A 1962)
I can find nothing in his later sermons which contradicts this statement ... except for the grounds of fornication. (He defined "fornication" as undisclosed premarital sex on the part of the woman).

Some who believe the Message may disagree, but that is the common understanding of everyone I know.

In the M&D sermon, Brother Branham said God forgave those who had remarried, but they must not do it again. This did not seem all that unusual to me because I have always believed that God forgives us for what we do before coming to a true knowledge of His word, providing we repent. I don't know any church that expects a couple who have remarried in the world, to separate when they become Christians, especially when they have children.

Well, that's what I think anyway ..... :grampa

[kenod]

Branhamites believe that William Branham was the seventh church age messenger, and if you aren't in the message your aren't in the bride.

The latter part may be what some "Branhamites" say, but what William Branham said was that the only qualification to be in the Bride was to receive the Holy Spirit.

The first part of your comment raises several questions:

1. Are there seven church ages?

2. Is there a messenger to each age?

3. Does Malachi 4:5-6 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mal/Mal004.html#top) and Mat 17:11-12 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat017.html#11) prophecy an "Elijah" to come before the rapture?

Do you think the answer to any of those questions is "yes"?

[Brother Strange]

The latter part may be what some "Branhamites" say, but what William Branham said was that the only qualification to be in the Bride was to receive the Holy Spirit.

The first part of your comment raises several questions:

1. Are there seven church ages?

2. Is there a messenger to each age?

3. Does Malachi 4:5-6 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mal/Mal004.html#top) and Mat 17:11-12 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat017.html#11) prophecy an "Elijah" to come before the rapture?

Do you think the answer to any of those questions is "yes"?

1. There ARE a lot more than SEVEN churches. There are over 40 Apostolic Churches in Houston alone.

Jesus addressed SEVEN.

2. No mention of seven church AGES in the Holy Writ.

3. Yes. The meaning of the word "Elijah" is "Jehovah is my God." All who embrace that truth have the spirit and power of Elijah. All who go in the rapture must have that same spirit. As John the Baptist pointed to Jesus, so does the spirit of Elijah today.

[Steve Epley]

Regarding remarriage (or polygamy if you prefer) the only grounds I can find in all that William Branham said, was undisclosed premarital sex on the part of the woman.
He based this on Matthew 5:32
But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

It is interesting that Brother Branham refused to marry his eldest son the second time.

He said there are other grounds on which a man may put away his wife, but still he cannot remarry.
Your vow is until death you separate, and there's nothing else in the world will permit you to marry in the Bible until your companion is dead. (Q&A 1962)
I can find nothing in his later sermons which contradicts this statement ... except for the grounds of fornication. (He defined "fornication" as undisclosed premarital sex on the part of the woman).

Some who believe the Message may disagree, but that is the common understanding of everyone I know.

In the M&D sermon, Brother Branham said God forgave those who had remarried, but they must not do it again. This did not seem all that unusual to me because I have always believed that God forgives us for what we do before coming to a true knowledge of His word, providing we repent. I don't know any church that expects a couple who have remarried in the world, to separate when they become Christians, especially when they have children.

Well, that's what I think anyway ..... :grampa

Branham taught "a woman cutting her hair was fornication, not willing to have a child and a list of other things."
He would not remarry Billiy Paul but ordained....Horner-Martin both who had been remarried. Branham was like a Georgia lizard he changed colors with everything he landed on. When he was preaching Trinity meetings he told folks who responded to the invitation there are good men here to baptize you but the weekend before at Jeff he was calling the false prophets. Sorry that is NOT Elijah more like Balaam.

[Steve Epley]

The latter part may be what some "Branhamites" say, but what William Branham said was that the only qualification to be in the Bride was to receive the Holy Spirit.

The first part of your comment raises several questions:

1. Are there seven church ages?

2. Is there a messenger to each age?

3. Does Malachi 4:5-6 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mal/Mal004.html#top) and Mat 17:11-12 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat017.html#11) prophecy an "Elijah" to come before the rapture?

Do you think the answer to any of those questions is "yes"?

Branham taught the evidence of the Holy Ghost was to recognize the messenger and the message for your day. Thus accept ME!!!! And you know it.
1. Nothing in Revelations 1-3 say anything about 7 church ages. It is an ASSUMPTION. May or may not be. Nothing to build a entire following on.
2. Luther a Trinitarian drunkard a messenger???????? Luther had a man killed because he denied the Trinity. Wesley taught the Trinity. Branham couldn't make up his mind what he was it depended on where he was.
3. No the Bible does NOT teach Elijah is appearing before the 2nd coming. You are 1900 years too late. "BUT I say unto you Elias IS COME ALREADY and they knew it not." Mt.17:12 It was one thing for them NOT to know Elijah had already come but what was Branham's excuse he had the written record. Branham got this from Alexander Dowie who taught he(Dowie) was Elijah. He borrowed every false doctrine he taught from another false prophet.

[ReformedDave]

Branham taught the evidence of the Holy Ghost was to recognize the messenger and the message for your day. Thus accept ME!!!! And you know it.
1. Nothing in Revelations 1-3 say anything about 7 church ages. It is an ASSUMPTION. May or may not be. Nothing to build a entire following on.
2. Luther a Trinitarian drunkard a messenger???????? Luther had a man killed because he denied the Trinity. Wesley taught the Trinity. Branham couldn't make up his mind what he was it depended on where he was.
3. No the Bible does NOT teach Elijah is appearing before the 2nd coming. You are 1900 years too late. "BUT I say unto you Elias IS COME ALREADY and they knew it not." Mt.17:12 It was one thing for them NOT to know Elijah had already come but what was Branham's excuse he had the written record. Branham got this from Alexander Dowie who taught he(Dowie) was Elijah. He borrowed every false doctrine he taught from another false prophet.


Where do you get the idea that Luther was an alcoholic? He enjoyed beer but was against excess. He wrote "It is possible to tolerate a little elevation, when a man takes a drink or two too much after working hard and when he is feeling low. This must be called a frolic. But to sit day and night, pouring it in and pouring it out again, is piggish... all food is a matter of freedom, even a modest drink for one's pleasure. If you do not wish to conduct yourself this way, if you are going to go beyond this and be a born pig and guzzle beer and wine, then, if this cannot be stopped by the rulers, you must know that you cannot be saved. For God will not admit such piggish drinkers into the kingdom of heaven [cf. Gal. 5:19-21]... If you are tired and downhearted, take a drink; but this does not mean being a pig and doing nothing but gorging and swilling... You should be moderate and sober; this means that we should not be drunken, though we may be exhilarated."

[Steve Epley]

The FACTS:
1. The Halo picture(find a halo in scripture) the examiner did NOT say the light was supernatural. Branham stated that over and over again but read the examination it that nothing of the kind. The examiner did NOT believe it was supernatural. Ever hear of Neal Frisby and all his halos?????????
2. The so-called supernatural cloud he claimed appeared in the science magazine. THE DATES ARE NOT THE SAME AS CLAIMED BY BRANHAM!!! A clear hoax. Those guys with him(like Joe Smith's cronies) never saw a thing.
3. I challenge you to find the newspaper report that validates his claim on the river in 1933! His so-called prediction of the men who fell had already happened.
4. Branham by divine inspiration predicted the Millenium in 1977 and America would be destroyed. IN the late 60's and 70's they were preaching that every service. In case you haven't noticed it is 2007 30 years too late.
5. Martin Luther King would lead to the death of 1,000's???????????????????? Excuse me?????? Could you please cite some sources where this happened?
Then I can cite person after person his unfailable gift FAILED and the person did NOT recieve what he claimed they would recieve.
6. Branham appointed jobs for different men that would aid in his "tent vision ministry" the majority are now dead along with Branham will he and they resurrect and have this tent meeting? Why would he need an airplane with a new body? The guy got the plane and was eventually killed in it.
I know this sounds harsh but these are the FACTS!

[Steve Epley]

Where do you get the idea that Luther was an alcoholic? He enjoyed beer but was against excess. He wrote "It is possible to tolerate a little elevation, when a man takes a drink or two too much after working hard and when he is feeling low. This must be called a frolic. But to sit day and night, pouring it in and pouring it out again, is piggish... all food is a matter of freedom, even a modest drink for one's pleasure. If you do not wish to conduct yourself this way, if you are going to go beyond this and be a born pig and guzzle beer and wine, then, if this cannot be stopped by the rulers, you must know that you cannot be saved. For God will not admit such piggish drinkers into the kingdom of heaven [cf. Gal. 5:19-21]... If you are tired and downhearted, take a drink; but this does not mean being a pig and doing nothing but gorging and swilling... You should be moderate and sober; this means that we should not be drunken, though we may be exhilarated."

Dave Branham claimed the Lord spoke to him to NEVER drink or smoke and God would use him. I am defining this by Branham's interpetation, however in Germany where he is considered the Father of Modern Germany they study this in schools. A Branham pastor who is a German and pastors in Germany told me this was a fact he learned in grade school. He had to explain this to his message converts in Germany.

[ReformedDave]

Dave Branham claimed the Lord spoke to him to NEVER drink or smoke and God would use him. I am defining this by Branham's interpetation, however in Germany where he is considered the Father of Modern Germany they study this in schools. A Branham pastor who is a German and pastors in Germany told me this was a fact he learned in grade school. He had to explain this to his message converts in Germany.

This appears to be of the urban legend type of thing. History changes over time.

[Steve Epley]

This appears to be of the urban legend type of thing. History changes over time.

It is taught as history in Germany?

[Ferd]

There is some guy in India, I'm told, that baptises in the name of William Marrion Branham. So I don't think it is a good idea to judge what William Branam said by what some people do!

Is Paul considered a woman hater ... some have obviously heard that idea, even if you haven't, Steve. For example:
Many have taken this verse and others within the Pauline Epistles and tried to make out that Paul was a chauvinist, a woman hater, than thus these verses are not inspired Scripture.
plenty more on google (http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:BJ0pWRh4R2UJ:www.woundedheart.org/mday.htm+Paul+woman+hater&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=26&gl=au)

William Branham hated immorality and condemned immoral women ... just like Elijah did... and just like John the Baptist did. The moral decline in women's behaviour in the last century is one of the signs of the times.


Kenod shows his hand. this post is very familiar to posts by other folk versed in that message who we have debated.

Kenod, reguardless of what you believe, I would personally appreicate you addressing the Elder in a more respectful manner.

It is common practice to use SE as short hand for a persons online name. Elder Epley, Brother Epley, Elder E. any of these are appropreate.

I hope you stay around, I have enjoyed the debate from time to time. maybe we can continue? it's good to see you again.

maybe we can discuss this notion that Adam was supposed to speak his children into existance. that might be fun!

[Sister Alvear]

I am a woman my friend but I would just like to add I translated M&D by WB for our preachers and most all he taught so they would know how to deal with it. I am not a debater and the only two subjects I have ever debated were Oneness and WB doctrine and that at the request of our ministers in times past.
I know Elder Epley can well take care of this subject I just want to add I personally seen many good men and women destroyed over WB doctrine.
I cannot judge him as a person for I personally only heard him a few times and I was young but his fruits are not Apostolic...

[tbpew]

Kenod shows his hand. this post is very familiar to posts by other folk versed in that message who we have debated.

Kenod, reguardless of what you believe, I would personally appreicate you addressing the Elder in a more respectful manner.

It is common practice to use SE as short hand for a persons online name. Elder Epley, Brother Epley, Elder E. any of these are appropreate.

I hope you stay around, I have enjoyed the debate from time to time. maybe we can continue? it's good to see you again.

maybe we can discuss this notion that Adam was supposed to speak his children into existance. that might be fun!
kenod,
just wanted to share another opinion....
I would never address SE as anything other than Steve in my occassional posting to him. IMO, first names help keep everybody more friendly.

Elder, Brother, Reverand, Evangelist, when used as attachments in front of a given name is a man-made thing (humans love to apply labels). The practice is certainly not established in any general biblical witness. Labels tend to separate folks, kinda like clergy and laity does.

[Sister Alvear]

I use the word Elder as a sign of hih respect to Elder Epley. He is a humble man and I am sure he would not rebuke you for saying Steve but on the forum and in REAL LIFE to me he is Elder...
I call some people by their first name...but in the pulpit I address them however their people address them. (IN Rome do as the Romans)
I go to some places they call me Sister Alvear, Some call me Sister Janice and a few call me Janice, some Jan or Sister Jan, I went to one church and they asked Apostle Janice Alvear to come to the platform! Most people that know me well just call me missionary...not really so much as a title but a nickname...
It is true some people require you to use their titles, etc...usually these are the people that wish they really were what they require you to call them...

Elder Epley deserves our respect even though we might not agree on every jot however in my family he is respected as an Elder.

[Steve Epley]

I certainly am NOT offended and I understand the mentality of the sincere folks who follow this heresy. I threaten everything they hold sacred since I have NO respect for Branham nor his message it really rubs them wrong. I don't care how did addresses me if he will answer the arguments. I understand this mught be the first time he is hearing some of this? I am NOT trying to be offensive but the things I am saying are very offensive within themselves because of their regard for Branham, since you cannot separate him and his message for he is their message. So I invite him to charge ahead.

[Ferd]

My point here is that i am pretty sure I know who this is and history means something.

the use of Elder E's first name is not one for the purpose of a level playing field. but thanks for adding the view pew.

I have always found you to be respectful thus would never challenge you. in this instance as I said, history means something.

[Scott Hutchinson]

The latter part may be what some "Branhamites" say, but what William Branham said was that the only qualification to be in the Bride was to receive the Holy Spirit.

The first part of your comment raises several questions:

1. Are there seven church ages?

2. Is there a messenger to each age?

3. Does Malachi 4:5-6 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mal/Mal004.html#top) and Mat 17:11-12 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat017.html#11) prophecy an "Elijah" to come before the rapture?

Do you think the answer to any of those questions is "yes"?

1.No The seven churches of Asia ,were seven churches not seven church ages.
2.NO The Bible says nothing of Luther Or Wesley or anyone else being a church age messenger.
3. No John The Baptist did come in the spirit of Elias.John The Baptist warned the religionist of His day to flee the wrath to come.

[Steve Epley]

The prophecy concerning Branham is NOT Mal. 4:5 or Rev. 10:7 it is Matthew 24 about false prophets.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Once a fellow told me Branham was the seventh angel in Revelation cause he had a sign over his head.

[Dr. Vaughn]

Heres the truth about the tent and the newspaper.. from the horses mouth

Now concerning the tent here, the tent does not belong to me, or none of the equipment belongs to me. It belongs to the "Voice of Healing," a inter-evangelical paper which is published in Shreveport. A little paper, the paper once was mine. When I started, the ministers kept telling me that, "You need a paper to carry your articles in."

And, well, I told Brother Lindsay, the one who was very much interested in that; I said, "Brother Lindsay, all right, we'll start it." And one day while in praying, God gave me the name, the title, "Voice of Healing." And it will rank right with my ministry, "the voice of one crying in the wilderness," and so forth. And so I gave it the name of "Voice of Healing."

I stayed so long in the platforms and things until I had to take a eight month's rest. I was off the field when they thought that I would leave the world. You've heard the story of that. And while I was gone, why, some of the other ministers that were following along behind my ministry, but going ahead praying for the sick, and they were carrying articles and so forth. So the suggestion was made that we make it a inter-evangelical paper, and just not representing any one certain man. And that's the way I like to see things. I don't want things that are looked as to myself; I want it for the church of the living God, for everybody.
You know, Jacob dug three wells. The one well, they drove him away, and he called it "strife." And another one was "malice," I believe, or "hatred," or something. He dug the third well and he said, "There's room for us all." So I think that's what it is now: there's room for us all..

Brother Lindsay then, taken the paper and made it a non-profited organization, of the paper, representing all the ministers of the land who carry a Divine healing ministry that's living the right kind of life and above reproach. Brother Lindsay looks into those things. And then, He wanted to make me president of it. He wanted to give me what more. But I said, "Brother Lindsay, I want to be just in the paper. That's all. And make my articles the smallest one in the paper. If nothing else, the itinerary so the people will know where I'm at. That'll be all that's necessary. I don't want one thing out of the paper but telling of the meetings and do what you want to, for I'm for anything that represents God." And the little paper does. It's a very fine little paper.

Then the tent problem was named and overseas. First thing, it come by inspiration. Our auditoriums would just take two or three nights, have to leave. Some cities, dear Christian people crying and begging, we'd have no place to go. Brother Moore, crossing a bridge at Little Rock, one morning from the meeting where many great signs and wonders were being done, Brother Moore had a inspiration that the Lord told him to build a tent. Brother Moore went out and had this tent built by Brother Welch in Pensacola, Florida. While there, Moore is a businessman as many of you know him. He's a contractor. He allowed a half million dollar job while he was gone to some more people, come back, found himself broke. And there he was and couldn't take the tent.

Then it fell to the hands of Me, I have nothing. And so it fell to the hands of Brother Lindsay to save the tent. He goes and buys the tent himself, and puts it in the name of "The Voice of Healing." Therefore, the tent does not belong to me or any certain person.

It belongs to the "Voice of Healing," and I just pay rent on it while I'm here. Everywhere I go, I pay rent. I like auditoriums, have nothing against auditoriums, but if this tent is going to be used for the Gospel of Jesus Christ, the tent rents cheaper than an auditorium. But I would rather pay three hundred dollars a day extra for the tent to know that the tent was going to be used for preaching the Gospel than to be at the auditoriums where they sponsor dances and everything else of the world. I'd rather do that. So anything to...

Therefore, the tent could be mine if I wished for it, but it's not that. Brother Lindsay's a very fine man to work with. Brother Lindsay, and Brother Hall, Brother Baxter, all those men are very fine. But then, the people made up a donation to buy me a home. They built me a little five room house. The day when I walked into it, I looked up there and I seen it. I'd always been a pilgrim; never has a Branham never owned nothing; we're vagabonds. And I--I looked at--at that--at our little house, and I said, "Lord, I'm not worthy to walk into it." I knelt down at the gate and took my wife by one hand, little boy by the other and I said, "Father, I thank You. As long as You let me live, I'll remember everyone that put even a penny on here." But I said, "Now, I--I won't have this for myself, for when I leave, let it go to Your ministry."

[Steve Epley]

Heres the truth about the tent and the newspaper.. from the horses mouth

Now concerning the tent here, the tent does not belong to me, or none of the equipment belongs to me. It belongs to the "Voice of Healing," a inter-evangelical paper which is published in Shreveport. A little paper, the paper once was mine. When I started, the ministers kept telling me that, "You need a paper to carry your articles in."

And, well, I told Brother Lindsay, the one who was very much interested in that; I said, "Brother Lindsay, all right, we'll start it." And one day while in praying, God gave me the name, the title, "Voice of Healing." And it will rank right with my ministry, "the voice of one crying in the wilderness," and so forth. And so I gave it the name of "Voice of Healing."

I stayed so long in the platforms and things until I had to take a eight month's rest. I was off the field when they thought that I would leave the world. You've heard the story of that. And while I was gone, why, some of the other ministers that were following along behind my ministry, but going ahead praying for the sick, and they were carrying articles and so forth. So the suggestion was made that we make it a inter-evangelical paper, and just not representing any one certain man. And that's the way I like to see things. I don't want things that are looked as to myself; I want it for the church of the living God, for everybody.
You know, Jacob dug three wells. The one well, they drove him away, and he called it "strife." And another one was "malice," I believe, or "hatred," or something. He dug the third well and he said, "There's room for us all." So I think that's what it is now: there's room for us all..

Brother Lindsay then, taken the paper and made it a non-profited organization, of the paper, representing all the ministers of the land who carry a Divine healing ministry that's living the right kind of life and above reproach. Brother Lindsay looks into those things. And then, He wanted to make me president of it. He wanted to give me what more. But I said, "Brother Lindsay, I want to be just in the paper. That's all. And make my articles the smallest one in the paper. If nothing else, the itinerary so the people will know where I'm at. That'll be all that's necessary. I don't want one thing out of the paper but telling of the meetings and do what you want to, for I'm for anything that represents God." And the little paper does. It's a very fine little paper.

Then the tent problem was named and overseas. First thing, it come by inspiration. Our auditoriums would just take two or three nights, have to leave. Some cities, dear Christian people crying and begging, we'd have no place to go. Brother Moore, crossing a bridge at Little Rock, one morning from the meeting where many great signs and wonders were being done, Brother Moore had a inspiration that the Lord told him to build a tent. Brother Moore went out and had this tent built by Brother Welch in Pensacola, Florida. While there, Moore is a businessman as many of you know him. He's a contractor. He allowed a half million dollar job while he was gone to some more people, come back, found himself broke. And there he was and couldn't take the tent.

Then it fell to the hands of Me, I have nothing. And so it fell to the hands of Brother Lindsay to save the tent. He goes and buys the tent himself, and puts it in the name of "The Voice of Healing." Therefore, the tent does not belong to me or any certain person.

It belongs to the "Voice of Healing," and I just pay rent on it while I'm here. Everywhere I go, I pay rent. I like auditoriums, have nothing against auditoriums, but if this tent is going to be used for the Gospel of Jesus Christ, the tent rents cheaper than an auditorium. But I would rather pay three hundred dollars a day extra for the tent to know that the tent was going to be used for preaching the Gospel than to be at the auditoriums where they sponsor dances and everything else of the world. I'd rather do that. So anything to...

Therefore, the tent could be mine if I wished for it, but it's not that. Brother Lindsay's a very fine man to work with. Brother Lindsay, and Brother Hall, Brother Baxter, all those men are very fine. But then, the people made up a donation to buy me a home. They built me a little five room house. The day when I walked into it, I looked up there and I seen it. I'd always been a pilgrim; never has a Branham never owned nothing; we're vagabonds. And I--I looked at--at that--at our little house, and I said, "Lord, I'm not worthy to walk into it." I knelt down at the gate and took my wife by one hand, little boy by the other and I said, "Father, I thank You. As long as You let me live, I'll remember everyone that put even a penny on here." But I said, "Now, I--I won't have this for myself, for when I leave, let it go to Your ministry."

Dr. Vaughn the eight months referred to here is the time of his nervous breakdown I referred to.

[Dr. Vaughn]

Dr. Vaughn the eight months referred to here is the time of his nervous breakdown I referred to.

OK, I sort of read into that... I was wondering what the eight months were..... I can only imagine the rumors that must have been circulating during those times.... did you ever meet Bro. Branham?

Bro V

[mfblume]

I passed through Jeffersonville, Indiana, this summer and stopped in to see Branham tabernacle and the grave where Branham was buried. I was given a tour of the little church. There is not even a sign in front of the church. They have about 300 or so attend Sunday Mornings.

[Sam]

Once a fellow told me Branham was the seventh angel in Revelation cause he had a sign over his head.

this one?