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OneAccord
02-22-2007, 04:27 PM
Most Pentecostal organizations (at least in their early days) took a strong stand against "secret organizations" like the Masons, etc. I was wondering, how do you feel, or how does your organization feel, about joining groups like the Masons, Shiners, the local Moose lodge, etc? Are some of the groups and/or their practices satanic? Just curious....

ReformedDave
02-22-2007, 04:30 PM
Most Pentecostal organizations (at least in their early days) took a strong stand against "secret organizations" like the Masons, etc. I was wondering, how do you feel, or how does your organization feel, about joining groups like the Masons, Shiners, the local Moose lodge, etc? Are some of the groups and/or their practices satanic? Just curious....

While most people probably regard these organizations as harmless 'good ol' boys clubs they are religious and one must take vows that are anti-christian.

Ron
02-22-2007, 04:37 PM
Secret Societies are nothing more than tools of the Devil.
I don't think they are has harmless as you think.

BoredOutOfMyMind
02-22-2007, 05:12 PM
While most people probably regard these organizations as harmless 'good ol' boys clubs
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they are religious and one must take vows that are anti-christian.

RevDWW
02-22-2007, 05:26 PM
I'd tell ya'll all about them but it's a secret..........:killinme

hammondb3klingon1
02-22-2007, 05:32 PM
Mason's are like anyone else ... just wanting to fit in. Unfortunately, it is very misguided. But aren't some fellowships "secret societies" in that you have to "drink the kool aid" to be one of them? Secret handshakes, no bowling, no golfing, no baseball, etc.. sounds like a bad summer to me.

SDG
02-22-2007, 05:33 PM
Mason's are like anyone else ... just wanting to fit in. Unfortunately, it is very misguided. But aren't some fellowships "secret societies" in that you have to "drink the kool aid" to be one of them? Secret handshakes, no bowling, no golfing, no baseball, etc.. sounds like a bad summer to me.

Who let the rat out ????? :killinme

RevDWW
02-22-2007, 05:36 PM
Mason's are like anyone else ... just wanting to fit in. Unfortunately, it is very misguided. But aren't some fellowships "secret societies" in that you have to "drink the kool aid" to be one of them? Secret handshakes, no bowling, no golfing, no baseball, etc.. sounds like a bad summer to me.

Easy there Klingy, didn't you just giet let back in? You might want to wait oh....say two or three posts before you get in trouble again......j/k....:killinme :killinme :killinme :killinme :killinme :killinme

Welcome back!

hammondb3klingon1
02-22-2007, 05:38 PM
:tease :heeheehee :beatdeadhorse :drawguns :ty :dunno :highfive :highfive I did not call you names now I am offended. Shall we dual to our demise??? HMMMM?? Danny Boy?:bliss :killinme

SDG
02-22-2007, 05:38 PM
Easy there Klingy, didn't you just giet let back in? You might want to wait oh....say two or three posts before you get in trouble again......j/k....:killinme :killinme :killinme :killinme :killinme :killinme

Welcome back!

Dude ... KOOLAID TASTES GREAT!!!!


DW poses with his mentor.

http://www.gessford.com/work/images/mayor-Kool-Aid-Man-03416.JPG

RevDWW
02-22-2007, 05:41 PM
Dude ... KOOLAID TASTES GREAT!!!!


DW poses with his mentor.

http://www.gessford.com/work/images/mayor-Kool-Aid-Man-03416.JPG

Oh....now the glove come off!!! Man I can't believe you posted a picture of me. This was supposed to be a secret. I don't remember who the guy in the red shirt and black pants was though.




:killinme

SDG
02-22-2007, 05:43 PM
I did not call you names now I am offended. Shall we dual to our demise??? HMMMM?? Danny Boy?

A rat is a rat is a rat ... *fade in Aram Katchaturian's "Sabre Dance*

http://www.musicabona.com/samples/su3107-2_1_01.mp3

Touche pussycat!!!!

http://i13.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/89/b9/84a5_1_b.JPG

Bryan
02-22-2007, 05:50 PM
I wouldn't mind joining the Masons. They have a secret handshake and wear a cool ring with their insignia.

RevDWW
02-22-2007, 05:55 PM
I wouldn't mind joining the Masons. They have a secret handshake and wear a cool ring with their insignia.

My Dad is one and is always trying to ge me to join.

One benefit he did tell me about was that he was once stopped for speeding, but when the Officer saw his Masonic ring, he let him go. Boy could I use that!!!! :killinme :killinme :killinme

I do know that the Shriners do a ton of good for hurting children. But then while they're under the influence of anistesia, they warp these poor little kids minds.....Hmmmm maybe that's what happened to me......:killinme :killinme :killinme

Scott Hutchinson
02-22-2007, 06:09 PM
Ok check these sites out and them you can compare notes.BTW I'll post some pro -Masonic sites to be fair.
http://www.freedomdomain.com/freemason.html
http://www.cuttingedge.org/fmcorner.html

Scott Hutchinson
02-22-2007, 06:26 PM
Ok check these sites out.
http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous.htm
http://www.oelodge.uklinux.net/freemasonry.htm

Praxeas
02-22-2007, 07:00 PM
What weird things do they do and talk about in secret?

RevDWW
02-22-2007, 07:39 PM
What weird things do they do and talk about in secret?

And do they have a secret handshake and de-coder ring?

Bryan
02-22-2007, 07:45 PM
the California site...

http://www.freemason.org/

SDG
02-22-2007, 07:46 PM
aarp.org (http://aarp.org)

Bryan
02-22-2007, 07:47 PM
aarp.org (http://aarp.org)I knew you were old...

Sherri
02-22-2007, 10:41 PM
We don't let anyone sign a ministry covenant in our church if they belong to a secret society. They can be members, but they cannot do any kind of platform ministry, teaching, etc. I don't even like fraternities for that same reason. I don't think you should take secret vows.

Praxeas
02-22-2007, 10:55 PM
And do they have a secret handshake and de-coder ring?

That's not true! That's just a filthy rumor started b.......uh.....never mind

Arphaxad
02-22-2007, 11:19 PM
If they're so secret , how come everyone knows about them?

Praxeas
02-22-2007, 11:26 PM
If they're so secret , how come everyone knows about them?
It's a cover....they let it out to try to stem suspicion :bliss

Arphaxad
02-22-2007, 11:33 PM
You want to know a secret? The most secret of secret societies are the Bloody Fives.

Praxeas
02-22-2007, 11:34 PM
You want to know a secret? The most secret of secret societies are the Bloody Fives.
lol...the bloody fives?

Arphaxad
02-22-2007, 11:41 PM
lol...the bloody fives?

dont laugh, they could be monitering this forum as we post. wow, I'm in big trouble if they are!

Praxeas
02-22-2007, 11:42 PM
dont laugh, they could be monitering this forum as we post. wow, I'm in big trouble if they are!
Ah....an ex-member eh?

Arphaxad
02-22-2007, 11:47 PM
Ah....an ex-member eh?

more like an infiltrator, if I dont post in a couple days call555-555-5555 and tell them "squarepeg is in round hole", then move outta town.

Praxeas
02-22-2007, 11:53 PM
more like an infiltrator, if I dont post in a couple days call555-555-5555 and tell them "squarepeg is in round hole", then move outta town.
gotcha...maybe we should have used the cone of silence

Arphaxad
02-22-2007, 11:57 PM
gotcha...maybe we should have used the cone of silence

and shoe phones

Praxeas
02-22-2007, 11:59 PM
and shoe phones
Dude! that was SUPPOSED to be a secret :drawguns

Arphaxad
02-23-2007, 12:05 AM
eeeeeeeeek I am undone!

Bryan
02-23-2007, 12:54 AM
ya'lls paranoid!

Chan
02-23-2007, 10:29 AM
While most people probably regard these organizations as harmless 'good ol' boys clubs they are religious and one must take vows that are anti-christian.Agreed.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Freemasonry/secret_societies_and_satanism.htm

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14071b.htm

Sister Alvear
02-23-2007, 11:07 AM
I would not belong to some secret organization...

Ronzo
02-23-2007, 11:09 AM
*pokes the ant hill with a stick*



Some apostolic 'organizations' are secret societies.

Bryan
02-23-2007, 11:10 AM
*pokes the ant hill with a stick*



Some apostolic 'organizations' are secret societies.
I was thinking that, lol. I won't even go there!

Bryan
02-23-2007, 11:11 AM
Why do you protest secret vows if you don't even know what vows are being made??
Masons encourage their members to believe in whomever the member sees as God.

Ronzo
02-23-2007, 11:11 AM
I wouldn't mind joining the Masons. They have a secret handshake and wear a cool ring with their insignia.
Not to mention: get all the cool jobs.

Bryan
02-23-2007, 11:14 AM
Not to mention: get all the cool jobs.Yeah! lol.

Last night I was browsing the FBI employment site. It'd be really cool to be a Special Agent. The cut off age for that is 37!!
Requirements:

Serving as a Special Agent is a very demanding job with strict entry requirements. Please review closely all requirements to ensure that you qualify before you apply.

To become an FBI Special Agentyou must be a U.S. citizen or a citizen of the Northern Mariana Islands. You must be at least 23 years of age, but younger than 37 upon your appointment as a Special Agent. You must possess a four-year degree from a college or university accredited by one of the regional or national institutional associations recognized by the United States Secretary of Education. You must have at least three years of professional work experience. You must also possess a valid driver’s license and be completely available for assignment anywhere in the FBI's jurisdiction.

All applicants for the Special Agent position must first qualify under one of five Special Agent Entry Programs. These programs include:

* Accounting
* Computer Science/Information Technology
* Language
* Law
* Diversified


After qualifying for one of the five Entry Programs, applicants will be prioritized in the hiring process based upon certain Critical Skills for which the FBI is recruiting. The FBI is currently recruiting for Special Agent candidates with one or more of the following Critical Skills:

* Accounting
* Computer Science/Information Technology Expertise
* Engineering Expertise
* Foreign Language(s) Proficiency
* Intelligence Experience
* Law Experience
* Law Enforcement/Investigative Experience
* Military Experience
* Physical Sciences (e.g., physics, chemistry, biology, etc.) Expertise
* Diversified Experience

Ronzo
02-23-2007, 11:15 AM
Last night I was browsing the FBI employment site. It'd be really cool to be a Special Agent. The cut off age for that is 37!!
Cool! I've got a year left!







lol

Digging4Truth
02-23-2007, 11:27 AM
I studied the Masons years ago....

The average Mason in your town has no idea what the Masons are about on a higher level. They work it just like all of the mystery religions have worked it through the milenia.

You are incrementally taught along the way.

I don't see where any Christian has any business joining anything that requres them to...

* Participate in a ceremony which you state you are "in darkness and seek light". Relationship with Jesus Christ is not darkness and the Lodge is not the light.

* Vow silence on anything under penalty of having your throat slit from ear to ear.

* Take part in the re-enactment of the death of Hiram Abiff which is strikingly similar to the ancient rites of Babylon.

and the list goes on.

Bryan
02-23-2007, 11:29 AM
I studied the Masons years ago....

The average Mason in your town has no idea what the Masons are about on a higher level. They work it just like all of the mystery religions have worked it through the milenia.

You are incrementally taught along the way.

I don't see where any Christian has any business joining anything that requres them to...

* Participate in a ceremony which you state you are "in darkness and seek light". Relationship with Jesus Christ is not darkness and the Lodge is not the light.

* Vow silence on anything under penalty of having your throat slit from ear to ear.

* Take part in the re-enactment of the death of Hiram Abiff which is strikingly similar to the ancient rites of Babylon.

and the list goes on.ahh well... I'm getting a cool ring... and will be promoted in my career very soon for my "efforts" ;)

Digging4Truth
02-23-2007, 11:30 AM
ahh well... I'm getting a cool ring... and will be promoted in my career very soon for my "efforts" ;)

Oh... well... Why didn't you say so. :):bliss