Acts 2:38 in 2007

[Nahum]

Then Peter suggested unto them, repent -although it is completely unnecessary, be baptized however you want to - in order to keep an out-dated tradition alive, and eventually God may baptize you with the Holy Ghost.

A powerless message from a powerless church.

[Steve Epley]

Then Peter suggested unto them, repent -although it is completely unnecesaary, be baptized however you want to - in order to keep an out-dated tradition alive, and eventually God may baptize you with the Holy Ghost.(BUT YOU DON"T NEED IT)

A powerless message for a powerless church.

Sounds like what I have been hearing.

What shall we do????????????? To the AFF forum

1. NOthing God has done it all you do nothing!
2. Accept Christ by faith and you are Heaven bound nothing else
3. All men will be saved Paul is like Hitler
4. Repent thats enough now if you ever get around to it be baptized that would be nice and if you want to be cool get the Holy Ghost but don't sweat it.

Then some of us just repeat the SAME answer Peter gave the multitude without commentary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!:highfive :highfive

[LadyChocolate]

:highfive

[Nahum]

We seem to have a lot of great Baptists on this Apostolic Forum. How nice of them to stop by! :heeheehee

[LadyChocolate]

What I don't understand is when did we start to pick and choose what we wanted out of the Bible???? Whatever sounds good, then I'll do it....If I don't agree with the Bible, I'll just skip over that part.

[Nahum]

Sounds like what I have been hearing.

What shall we do????????????? To the AFF forum

1. NOthing God has done it all you do nothing!
2. Accept Christ by faith and you are Heaven bound nothing else
3. All men will be saved Paul is like Hitler
4. Repent thats enough now if you ever get around to it be baptized that would be nice and if you want to be cool get the Holy Ghost but don't sweat it.

Then some of us just repeat the SAME answer Peter gave the multitude without commentary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!:highfive :highfive

Paul is like Hitler!!!!! Elder, that's just too funny. :killinme

[Nahum]

What I don't understand is when did we start to pick and choose what we wanted out of the Bible???? Whatever sounds good, then I'll do it....If I don't agree with the Bible, I'll just skip over that part.

yep, Dear Lady, you've assessed the situation correctly.
Don't bring the Bible into this. EGAD!!!!! :beatdeadhorse
That might offend someone, so lets be inclusive, and tolerant.

[Steve Epley]

Paul is like Hitler!!!!! Elder, that's just too funny. :killinme

Have you not read the stupid Hitler thread????????????? It's on there.

[Nahum]

Have you not read the stupid Hitler thread????????????? It's on there.

You're kidding me? Paul - like Hitler?
That ain't right man. These folks are muey loco.

[Steve Epley]

I glad to be numbered with the church and ministry that could just quote the passage just like Peter spoke it without commentary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


TB-Dan and crew would need Calvin's Institutes- Luther's Commentary-Southern Baptist S.S. Quarterly-Magee's Safari thru the Bible-Billy Graham's sermon titles-and fourteen more lexicons to explain Peter didn't mean what he said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But we can just quote the SAME answer how refreshing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:bliss :bliss :bliss :bliss :bliss :dunno :dunno :dunno :ty :ty

[Ron]

Since when did the Acts 2:38 message become irrelevant & outdated?:dunno

[Nahum]

I glad to be numbered with the church and ministry that could just quote the passage just like Peter spoke it without commentary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


TB-Dan and crew would need Calvin's Institutes- Luther's Commentary-Southern Baptist S.S. Quarterly-Magee's Safari thru the Bible-Billy Graham's sermon titles-and fourteen more lexicons to explain Peter didn't mean what he said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But we can just quote the SAME answer how refreshing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:bliss :bliss :bliss :bliss :bliss :dunno :dunno :dunno :ty :ty

Now Elder, you're just so old-fashioned! You need to accept our dear brothers new doctrines in a spirit of tolerance and love and all of that other gobbleegook. What's wrong with you man? Are you Hitler's grandson?

[LadyChocolate]

bro Epley: thank you for the stand you take!!! There is such a beauty in the purity of this Apostolic faith....When you start taking away just bits and pieces, it becomes polluted. I appreciate the many, many preachers that still uphold truth and aren't looking for a way around it just to appease themselves! God bless you sir!:highfive :ty

[Nahum]

Since when did the Acts 2:38 message become irrelevant & outdated?:dunno

Ron, I love ya man, but where have you been?
Haven't you heard? Acts 2:38 is now a suggestion, not a command.

[Steve Epley]

Now Elder, you're just so old-fashioned! You need to accept our dear brothers new doctrines in a spirit of tolerance and love and all of that other gobbleegook. What's wrong with you man? Are you Hitler's grandson?

Now there is some German in the genes I must confess?????????? However.:heeheehee

[Ron]

Ron, I love ya man, but where have you been?
Haven't you heard? Acts 2:38 is now a suggestion, not a command.

Busy, somewhat in prayer. Been carrying heavy burdens I can not share just as of yet.:praying

More prayer couldn't hurt. If you ask my wife she'd say I need all I can get!
Whatever that means!:D

[SDG]

We seem to have a lot of great Baptists on this Apostolic Forum. How nice of them to stop by! :heeheehee

When We All Get To Heaven Lyrics:

Sing the wondrous love of Jesus,
Sing His mercy and His grace.
In the mansions bright and blessèd
He’ll prepare for us a place.

When we all get to Heaven,
What a day of rejoicing that will be!
When we all see Jesus,
We’ll sing and shout the victory!

While we walk the pilgrim pathway,
Clouds will overspread the sky;
But when traveling days are over,
Not a shadow, not a sigh.

When we all get to Heaven,
What a day of rejoicing that will be!
When we all see Jesus,
We’ll sing and shout the victory!

Let us then be true and faithful,
Trusting, serving every day;
Just one glimpse of Him in glory
Will the toils of life repay.

When we all get to Heaven,
What a day of rejoicing that will be!
When we all see Jesus,
We’ll sing and shout the victory!

Onward to the prize before us!
Soon His beauty we’ll behold;
Soon the pearly gates will open;
We shall tread the streets of gold.

When we all get to Heaven,
What a day of rejoicing that will be!
When we all see Jesus,
We’ll sing and shout the victory!


SEE YA IN HEAVEN PP ... MAYBE WE CAN CHILL FOR A MILLENIA :ty

[Nahum]

When We All Get To Heaven Lyrics:

Sing the wondrous love of Jesus,
Sing His mercy and His grace.
In the mansions bright and blessèd
He’ll prepare for us a place.

When we all get to Heaven,
What a day of rejoicing that will be!
When we all see Jesus,
We’ll sing and shout the victory!

While we walk the pilgrim pathway,
Clouds will overspread the sky;
But when traveling days are over,
Not a shadow, not a sigh.

When we all get to Heaven,
What a day of rejoicing that will be!
When we all see Jesus,
We’ll sing and shout the victory!

Let us then be true and faithful,
Trusting, serving every day;
Just one glimpse of Him in glory
Will the toils of life repay.

When we all get to Heaven,
What a day of rejoicing that will be!
When we all see Jesus,
We’ll sing and shout the victory!

Onward to the prize before us!
Soon His beauty we’ll behold;
Soon the pearly gates will open;
We shall tread the streets of gold.

When we all get to Heaven,
What a day of rejoicing that will be!
When we all see Jesus,
We’ll sing and shout the victory!


SEE YA IN HEAVEN PP ... MAYBE WE CAN CHILL FOR A MILLENIA :ty

Well, I mean, of course Daniel. After all, EVERYONE will be in Heaven - right?
Sweet non-judgemental Jesus would never send anyone to Hell. All that matters is if you are sincere. Uhm wait a minute, if I have to be sincere isn't that a requirement i.e. legalism. Oops strike sincerity.

Nothing is required. It's all good, Bro.

[Steve Epley]

When We All Get To Heaven Lyrics:

Sing the wondrous love of Jesus,
Sing His mercy and His grace.
In the mansions bright and blessèd
He’ll prepare for us a place.

When we all get to Heaven,
What a day of rejoicing that will be!
When we all see Jesus,
We’ll sing and shout the victory!

While we walk the pilgrim pathway,
Clouds will overspread the sky;
But when traveling days are over,
Not a shadow, not a sigh.

When we all get to Heaven,
What a day of rejoicing that will be!
When we all see Jesus,
We’ll sing and shout the victory!

Let us then be true and faithful,
Trusting, serving every day;
Just one glimpse of Him in glory
Will the toils of life repay.

When we all get to Heaven,
What a day of rejoicing that will be!
When we all see Jesus,
We’ll sing and shout the victory!

Onward to the prize before us!
Soon His beauty we’ll behold;
Soon the pearly gates will open;
We shall tread the streets of gold.

When we all get to Heaven,
What a day of rejoicing that will be!
When we all see Jesus,
We’ll sing and shout the victory!


SEE YA IN HEAVEN PP ... MAYBE WE CAN CHILL FOR A MILLENIA :ty

Daniel if the question had been posed to you that was posed to Peter what would have been your answer????????????? Jesus Knows?????

WWPS???????????????????????????????????What Would Peter Say!:highfive

[Steve Epley]

Thank You PP for this knock out punch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:highfive


Remember!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WWPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What Would Peter Say???????????????????????????????????????????????

:ty :ty :ty :ty :ty :ty :ty :ty

[Felicity]

Good morning everybody! :)

Well ........ the truth is that even those of a PAJC persuasion disagree even on the basics in regard to what's what and on the finer points.

It's not about people not agreeing with the Bible. It's about proper exegesis of Scripture. In attempt to "get it right" we come up with different emphases. We have a responsibility to "properly divide" scripture. Like I've said many times you can't hardly get agreement on every point between 2 people. And that is proved on these discussion forums in most every thread on a daily basis.

We ALL agree that every person must repent, be baptized in the name of Jesus and then as the promise was given ..... they SHALL receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. :thumbsup

[Ron]

Good morning everybody! :)

Well ........ the truth is that even those of a PAJC persuasion disagree even on the basics in regard to what's what and on the finer points.

It's not about people not agreeing with the Bible. It's about proper exegesis of Scripture. In attempt to "get it right" we come up with different emphases. We have a responsibility to "properly divide" scripture. Like I've said many times you can't hardly get agreement on every point between 2 people. And that is proved on these discussion forums in most every thread on a daily basis.

We ALL agree that every person must repent, be baptized in the name of Jesus and then as the promise was given ..... they SHALL receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. :thumbsup

Yes Felicity, I believe most do agree on these points.

Do we agree though that it is a "Necessity" to get into Heaven?

That is the $64,000 question.

JMHO

[Felicity]

Yes Felicity, I believe most do agree on these points.

Do we agree though that it is a "Necessity" to get into Heaven?

That is the $64,000 question.

JMHOOnly $64,000? :heeheehee

[Steve Epley]

Good morning everybody! :)

Well ........ the truth is that even those of a PAJC persuasion disagree even on the basics in regard to what's what and on the finer points.

It's not about people not agreeing with the Bible. It's about proper exegesis of Scripture. In attempt to "get it right" we come up with different emphases. We have a responsibility to "properly divide" scripture. Like I've said many times you can't hardly get agreement on every point between 2 people. And that is proved on these discussion forums in most every thread on a daily basis.

We ALL agree that every person must repent, be baptized in the name of Jesus and then as the promise was given ..... they SHALL receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. :thumbsup

Look at the Acts 2:38 thread.

[Felicity]

Bottom line is that if you do those things and of course a bunch of other things as well which we also all disagree on too ;) ..... you will. :)

[Fireside]

I glad to be numbered with the church and ministry that could just quote the passage just like Peter spoke it without commentary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


TB-Dan and crew would need Calvin's Institutes- Luther's Commentary-Southern Baptist S.S. Quarterly-Magee's Safari thru the Bible-Billy Graham's sermon titles-and fourteen more lexicons to explain Peter didn't mean what he said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But we can just quote the SAME answer how refreshing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Safari throught the Bible...ROFL!

That is priceless!:killinme

[Felicity]

Look at the Acts 2:38 thread.Hey there Bro. Epley...... good morning to you sir! :tiphat

I thought this WAS the Acts 2:38 thread. ?????

[SDG]

Well, I mean, of course Daniel. After all, EVERYONE will be in Heaven - right?
Sweet non-judgemental Jesus would never send anyone to Hell. All that matters is if you are sincere. Uhm wait a minute, if I have to be sincere isn't that a requirement i.e. legalism. Oops strike sincerity.

Nothing is required. It's all good, Bro.

More PAJC propaganda ... your doing a solid job for the UltraCons :tease

[Felicity]

Safari throught the Bible...ROFL!

That is priceless!:killinme :heeheehee

[Felicity]

Repent.

Be baptized in Jesus name.

Ye SHALL receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


Anybody here have a problem with this?

[Fireside]

Repent.

Be baptized in Jesus name.

Ye SHALL receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


Anybody here have a problem with this?

Not me.

[Steve Epley]

More PAJC propaganda ... your doing a solid job for the UltraCons :tease

Was Peter then guilty of PAJC propaganda??????????? I disagree the PAJC originated in America NOT in Jersualem.

However Dan HOW would YOU have answered???????????????

PP has you guys up a tree. Coon the coons are treed I see their eyes with my flashlite and the 2 38's are gonna get'em!:highfive :highfive

[Felicity]

Repent.

Be baptized in Jesus name.

Ye SHALL receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


Anybody here have a problem with this?NO!!?

Well imagine that!!! :bliss


:highfive

[Ron]

Only $64,000? :heeheehee

All I have in spare change!:rolleyes:

[Steve Epley]

Repent.

Be baptized in Jesus name.

Ye SHALL receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


Anybody here have a problem with this?

NONE except I like the COMPLETE quote

"FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

[Ron]

Repent.

Be baptized in Jesus name.

Ye SHALL receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


Anybody here have a problem with this?

We don't, but look at the Church world in general today!

Everybody's going to heaven according to them.

[Felicity]

All I have in spare change!:rolleyes:You have more than I do then. Wanna share some with me? You know what the Bible says after all Ron ........ right? :heeheehee

[Felicity]

NONE except I like the COMPLETE quote

"FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"Right, I thot of that after I made the post. Okay........ I'll do a revision then. :highfive

[SDG]

Repent.

Be baptized in Jesus name.

Ye SHALL receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


Anybody here have a problem with this?

Nope ... love, believe, teach, preach, and obeyed .... but they think we don't.

Perhaps its because in the words of Jeff Arnold , at BOTT, referring to these doctrine idolaters, "You are married to doctrine and have divorced yourself from Deity."

[Ron]

You have more than I do then. Wanna share some with me? You know what the Bible says after all Ron ........ right? :heeheehee

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, where did my $64,000 go??:tease

[Felicity]

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, where did my $64,000 go??:teaseYou're just trying to keep from sharing some of that change with me. I know. :nod

:bliss

[Nahum]

Repent.

Be baptized in Jesus name.

Ye SHALL receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


Anybody here have a problem with this?

They don't believe its necessary for salvation.

Salvation suppoosedly comes at repentance now, which leads me to ask why Peter went on to add the legalistic requirement of baptism, and OH MY WORD he even added methodology to baptism.

[Felicity]

Revised for Bro. Epley .... :)


Repent and .....

Be baptized in Jesus name for the remission of your sins ....

Ye SHALL receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


Anybody here have a problem with this? :)

[Nahum]

More PAJC propaganda ... your doing a solid job for the UltraCons :tease

Acts 2:38 is not an ultra-con position dude, it's a ...

BIBLE commandment
Scriptural imperative
Declarative statement

No wiggle room Daniel. You either believe it as written, and preach it as written or quit saying you believe it with disclaimers.

[SDG]

Acts 2:38 is not an ultra-con position dude, it's a ...

BIBLE commandment
Scriptural imperative
Declarative statement

No wiggle room Daniel. You either believe it as written, and preach it as written or quit saying you believe it with disclaimers.

Disclaimers ....Hogwash ... still on attack mode???? Touche.

See is Acts 2:38 your god? thread. :ty :tease

[Ron]

Acts 2:38 is not an ultra-con position dude, it's a ...

BIBLE commandment
Scriptural imperative
Declarative statement

No wiggle room Daniel. You either believe it as written, and preach it as written or quit saying you believe it with disclaimers.

I agree!
The Acts 2:38 message is a no brainer for me.:highfive

[Felicity]

They don't believe its necessary for salvation.

Salvation suppoosedly comes at repentance now, which leads me to ask why Peter went on to add the legalistic requirement of baptism, and OH MY WORD he even added methodology to baptism.But they believe it IS necessary/essential and the people in their churches are repenting, getting baptized in Jesus name and receiving the Holy Ghost, just as they are in ours, just as they are in yours.

This is what I always get a little amused about is the fact that many of the people who you say don't believe this is necessary for salvation are getting the exact same results you are and others who believe like you do. Maybe even more and greater results and more numbers of people who are repenting, being baptized in Jesus name and receiving the Holy Ghost infilling evidenced by speaking in tongues.

Like Anthony Mangun always said and still says today....... the emphasis is........

You don't GOT to get the Holy Ghost. You GET to get the Holy Ghost.

And that's pretty much what Peter was saying ..... ye SHALL receive. It's a PROMISE and a FACT. :highfive

[LadyChocolate]

Acts 2:38 is not an ultra-con position dude, it's a ...BIBLE commandment
Scriptural imperative
Declarative statement

No wiggle room Daniel. You either believe it as written, and preach it as written or quit saying you believe it with disclaimers.

Exactly! Acts 2:38 is commandment..whether you are ultra con, lib, con , baptist, charismatic, or agnostic....I don't care what you are. You have to buy the whole thing. Repentence, Jesus' name baptism, and HolyGhost in tongues! There is no other way. It has nothing to do with how conservative you are! :dunno

[Felicity]

Revised for Bro. Epley .... :)


Repent and .....

Be baptized in Jesus name for the remission of your sins ....

Ye SHALL receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


Anybody here have a problem with this? :)No?

Well imagine that!

:) ;)

[Felicity]

Exactly! Acts 2:38 is commandment..whether you are ultra con, lib, con , baptist, charismatic, or agnostic....I don't care what you are. You have to buy the whole thing. Repentence, Jesus' name baptism, and HolyGhost in tongues! There is no other way. It has nothing to do with how conservative you are! :dunnoWe don't have to buy anything. Jesus Christ already did the buying! We just have to obey and receive! :bliss

[SDG]

Exactly! Acts 2:38 is commandment..whether you are ultra con, lib, con , baptist, charismatic, or agnostic....I don't care what you are. You have to buy the whole thing. Repentence, Jesus' name baptism, and HolyGhost in tongues! There is no other way. It has nothing to do with how conservative you are! :dunno

Absolutely agree LC .... a God-breathed inerrant commmandment.

But how you present it makes all the difference ... as Felicity so eloquently said about

You don't GOT to get the Holy Ghost. You GET to get the Holy Ghost.

[LadyChocolate]

We don't have to buy anything. Jesus Christ already did the buying! We just have to obey and receive! :bliss

(just an expression) buy the truth and sell it not. Meaning, we can't pick and choose the part of salvation that we want.

[Kutless]

But they believe it IS necessary/essential and the people in their churches are repenting, getting baptized in Jesus name and receiving the Holy Ghost, just as they are in ours, just as they are in yours.

This is what I always get a little amused about is the fact that many of the people who you say don't believe this is necessary for salvation are getting the exact same results you are and others who believe like you do. Maybe even more and greater results and more numbers of people who are repenting, being baptized in Jesus name and receiving the Holy Ghost infilling evidenced by speaking in tongues.

Like Anthony Mangun always said and still says today....... the emphasis is........

You don't GOT to get the Holy Ghost. You GET to get the Holy Ghost.

And that's pretty much what Peter was saying ..... ye SHALL receive. It's a PROMISE and a FACT. :highfiveYou made a distinction here...to different types of believers. Am I reading it wrong?

[Nahum]

You made a distinction here...to different types of believers. Am I reading it wrong?

Absolutely she did, and this is what always happens. THEY say "I believe Acts 2:38" and then THEY issue one of the following disclaimers:

1. but
2. however
3. in a different way

The truth is THEY believe a different message. I'm glad we see the same results in a few so called PCI churches and ministries, but THEY preach a different message. There is much evidence in the past few days to convince me of that fact.

[Felicity]

Absolutely she did, and this is what always happens. THEY say "I believe Acts 2:38" and then THEY issue one of the following disclaimers:

1. but
2. however
3. in a different way

The truth is THEY believe a different message. I'm glad we see the same results in a few so called PCI churches and ministries, but THEY preach a different message. There is much evidence in the past few days to convince me of that fact. We believe a different message but get the same results? Impossible. :bliss

[SDG]

We believe a different message but get the same results? Impossible. :bliss

Thank you for being a truthsayer.

[Felicity]

You made a distinction here...to different types of believers. Am I reading it wrong?Yes, I think you must be because we're all (here) Oneness Acts 2:38 adherents.

[Kutless]

We believe a different message but get the same results? Impossible. :blissSo is it essential or not?? I've been reading for two days. Will one of you just answer yes or no???????

I may need to get rebaptized. :killinme

[Nahum]

We believe a different message but get the same results? Impossible. :bliss


Quite possible. A Baptist, Presbyterian or Mormon could accidentally land on the same result, with a complete misunderstanding of scripture.

It's a different message, with a different emphasis.

[SDG]

So is it essential or not?? I've been reading for two days. Will one of you just answer yes or no???????

I may need to get rebaptized. :killinme

All of God's word is essential ... <<<< how this statement can be construed as dempasizing Acts 2:38 is mind boggling .... I want all God has for me ...

[Ron]

So is it essential or not?? I've been reading for two days. Will one of you just answer yes or no???????

I may need to get rebaptized. :killinme

Yes! Obeying the Acts 2:38 message is essential!

Why was that so hard?

If anyone knows of another, legitimate, Biblical way-I'm all ears!

[Kutless]

All of God's word is essential ... <<<< how this statement can be construed as dempasizing Acts 2:38 is mind boggling .... I want all God has for me ...P.P. what say ye?

[Kutless]

Yes! Obeying the Acts 2:38 message is essential!

Why was that so hard?

If anyone knows of another, legitimate, Biblical way-I'm all ears!Thanks Bro Ron.

For that and the CHK thread!

[Felicity]

Quite possible. A Baptist, Presbyterian or Mormon could accidentally land on the same result, with a complete misunderstanding of scripture.

It's a different message, with a different emphasis.Different emphasis .... maybe. But then there's different emphases on most everything. Look at all these threads PP. Even those who hold to the PAJC doctrinal view don't agree on even basic biblical terms of salvation, of sanctification, justification, propitiation, regeneration, remission, and on it goes.

Yet we're all baptizing people in Jesus name and seeing them filled with the Holy Ghost and the interesting thing is that many of the PCIers are seeing as many if not MORE people receiving the Holy Ghost as those who say we don't believe it's necessary.

[Nahum]

P.P. what say ye?

Friend, its obvious double-speak.

Here's the difference, if someone asks me what they need to do to be saved, I'm going to point them to the same plan Peter (under Divine inspiration) gave in the first century.


If someone asks Daniel, he cannot truthfully do this, as he believes repentance is all that is necessary to be saved. What does he point them to?


We preach a different message.

[Felicity]

Thanks Bro Ron.

For that and the CHK thread!Kutless........

I like your sig line. "He forgives and Forgets". Excellent!

[Felicity]

We believe a different message but get the same results? Impossible. :bliss

So is it essential or not?? I've been reading for two days. Will one of you just answer yes or no???????

I may need to get rebaptized. :killinmeYes.

(But I've been saying that all along - where have you been?) :heeheehee

[Kutless]

Yes.

(But I've been saying that all along - where have you been?) :heeheeheeI'm a late bloomer. My sigline is in Honor of my Grandparents who sang that song all there lives.

[Felicity]

I'm a late bloomer. My sigline is in Honor of my Grandparents who sang that song all there lives.I'm old enough to have heard it sung lots of times but it's been a long time since I heard it last. :)

[Ron]

I guess the point is this.
Is there another way of Salvation other than obeying Acts 2:38?
I haven't seen it.

[Felicity]

I guess the point is this.
Is there another way of Salvation other than obeying Acts 2:38?
I haven't seen it.A crowd gathered together ..... under conviction of the Holy Ghost and the compelling message Peter preached to them about how they had crucified and killed Jesus of Nazareth who God had made both Lord and Christ .... came to the realization of the awful thing that had been done and asked .......

"What shall we do?"

Peter answered.....

"Repent and be baptized EVERY ONE OF YOU for the remission of your sin and ye SHALL receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."

Simple. Just preach it. Just do it. :highfive

[Ron]

A crowd gathered together ..... under conviction of the Holy Ghost and the compelling message Peter preached to them about how they had crucified and killed Jesus of Nazareth who God had made both Lord and Christ .... came to the realization of the awful thing that had been done and asked .......

"What shall we do?"

Peter answered.....

"Repent and be baptized EVERY ONE OF YOU for the remission of your sin and ye SHALL receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."

Simple. Just preach it. Just do it. :highfive

Amen, I do!

[Felicity]

I think sometimes if most of any of us are saved it's going to be a miracle so let's quit pointing fingers at others who are looked at as preaching a deficient doctrine or message of salvation.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Actually I proclaim Christ and Him crucified first,and the rest second.
Peter preached Christ, before he gave his altar call.

[rgcraig]

But they believe it IS necessary/essential and the people in their churches are repenting, getting baptized in Jesus name and receiving the Holy Ghost, just as they are in ours, just as they are in yours.

This is what I always get a little amused about is the fact that many of the people who you say don't believe this is necessary for salvation are getting the exact same results you are and others who believe like you do. Maybe even more and greater results and more numbers of people who are repenting, being baptized in Jesus name and receiving the Holy Ghost infilling evidenced by speaking in tongues.

Like Anthony Mangun always said and still says today....... the emphasis is........

You don't GOT to get the Holy Ghost. You GET to get the Holy Ghost.

And that's pretty much what Peter was saying ..... ye SHALL receive. It's a PROMISE and a FACT. :highfive

Seems very simple to me!

[Steve Epley]

Nope ... love, believe, teach, preach, and obeyed .... but they think we don't.

Perhaps its because in the words of Jeff Arnold , at BOTT, referring to these doctrine idolaters, "You are married to doctrine and have divorced yourself from Deity."

Doctrine is the WORD and the WORD is God and Arnold is goofy!:highfive

[Fireside]

Doctrine is the WORD and the WORD is God and Arnold is goofy!:highfive

The man has a way with words.:highfive

[Steve Epley]

Friend, its obvious double-speak.

Here's the difference, if someone asks me what they need to do to be saved, I'm going to point them to the same plan Peter (under Divine inspiration) gave in the first century.


If someone asks Daniel, he cannot truthfully do this, as he believes repentance is all that is necessary to be saved. What does he point them to?


We preach a different message.

I am not sure about his belief on repentance actually?

[COOPER]

Repent.

Be baptized in Jesus name.

Ye SHALL receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


Anybody here have a problem with this?

Not me, I have no problem with this precious truth.:highfive

[Steve Epley]

A crowd gathered together ..... under conviction of the Holy Ghost and the compelling message Peter preached to them about how they had crucified and killed Jesus of Nazareth who God had made both Lord and Christ .... came to the realization of the awful thing that had been done and asked .......

"What shall we do?"

Peter answered.....

"Repent and be baptized EVERY ONE OF YOU for the remission of your sin and ye SHALL receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."

Simple. Just preach it. Just do it. :highfive

Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like the ELEVEN did when they stood up with Peter!!!!

And as many as recieved his word were baptized..........and they continued in the Apostles' doctrine.................. and so do I!!!!!!!!:ty :ty

[COOPER]

Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like the ELEVEN did when they stood up with Peter!!!!

And as many as recieved his word were baptized..........and they continued in the Apostles' doctrine.................. and so do I!!!!!!!!:ty :ty
Amen Elder!:highfive

[Neck]

Then Peter suggested unto them, repent -although it is completely unnecessary, be baptized however you want to - in order to keep an out-dated tradition alive, and eventually God may baptize you with the Holy Ghost.

A powerless message from a powerless church.

I know I got laughed at on this forum for saying I attend an independant Apostolic Church. Yet many who call them self Apostolic on this forum do not believe Baptism is essential???

Apostolic is not how long your hair is but how you treat the salvation message.

What if Jesus would have stopped at the Garden.

He believed he was doing the right thing.

Then he went to the cross, grave and the Throne.

[Neck]

Doctrine is the WORD and the WORD is God and Arnold is goofy!:highfive And Epley is?