Ultra Cons Angry at Today's Meeting!!!!!

[Thad]

JUst received a report that a number of Ultra Cons Sat angry with their Arms folded when it was announced that Ken haney was re-elected by an overwhelming vote !

eye witness reports said they even refused to stand in honor as most everyone else did !



YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS ????

[LaVonne]

Good!

[Thad]

***** EXTRA ******


Did you hear that A Mangun got up and Made a Big plug for the TV resolution in today's meeting ????


I'm surprised :hypercoffee

[DividedThigh]

***** EXTRA ******


Did you hear that A Mangun got up and Made a Big plug for the TV resolution in today's meeting ????


I'm surprised :hypercoffee

all those guys probably pastor us 4 and no more in timbuctu, lol, did he really do it, lol, dt:hypercoffee

[Thad]

all those guys probably pastor us 4 and no more in timbuctu, lol, did he really do it, lol, dt:hypercoffee


Yes ! he said we need to use ever technological resource available today to reach the world with the gospel AND said " Brethren I am asking you to prayerfully consider your vote tomorrow " !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dizzyde]

I think it's sad.

[Bowas]

JUst received a report that a number of Ultra Cons Sat angry with their Arms folded when it was announced that Ken haney was re-elected by an overwhelming vote !

eye witness reports said they even refused to stand in honor as most everyone else did !



YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS ????

I am not surprised.
I witnessed them with a similar attitude (pout) when Bro. Abbey was announced Western District Superintendant a couple of months ago.
So am I surprised? No.
Disappointed? Yes.

[chseeads]

They've got the same britches to get glad in that they got mad in. *shrug*

[Thad]

now wasn't it stedfast and coon that said they know for a fact that none of the people I listed on that list was for the TV resolution!!!!!

what planet are those 2 vacationing on ???????????:killinme

[Theresa]

JUst received a report that a number of Ultra Cons Sat angry with their Arms folded when it was announced that Ken haney was re-elected by an overwhelming vote !

eye witness reports said they even refused to stand in honor as most everyone else did !



YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS ????

overwhelming vote?? so what, two maybe 3 people are these "angry ultra cons"?

[chseeads]

now wasn't it stedfast and coon that said they know for a fact that none of the people I listed on that list was for the TV resolution!!!!!

what planet are those 2 vacationing on ???????????:killinme

I think they meant that the knew that not ALL of them on the list were, not that NONE of them on the list were.

[Sheltiedad]

They've got the same britches to get glad in that they got mad in. *shrug*

LOL! My grandma used to say that all the time!

[DividedThigh]

Yes ! he said we need to use ever technological resource available today to reach the world with the gospel AND said " Brethren I am asking you to prayerfully consider your vote tomorrow " !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wow, i wonder how that was taken, lol, but of course many allready knew how he felt, somebody has to try and wake them up, besides they have almost waited to late, dt:hypercoffee

[LadyRev]

JUst received a report that a number of Ultra Cons Sat angry with their Arms folded when it was announced that Ken haney was re-elected by an overwhelming vote !

eye witness reports said they even refused to stand in honor as most everyone else did !



YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS ????

My thoughts on this?

Childish nonsense.

"If I can't have my way I just won't do anything. So there". (Pouched lip included).

Much could be said about growing up, acting one's age, christian character, and spiritual maturity.

[dizzyde]

They've got the same britches to get glad in that they got mad in. *shrug*


The problem is, they never do get glad.....

[DividedThigh]

My thoughts on this?

Childish nonsense.

"If I can't have my way I just won't do anything. So there". (Pouched lip included).

Much could be said about growing up, acting one's age, christian character, and spiritual maturity.

resounding amen for the ladyrev, lol,dt:hypercoffee

[Mr. Steinway]

now wasn't it stedfast and coon that said they know for a fact that none of the people I listed on that list was for the TV resolution!!!!!

what planet are those 2 vacationing on ???????????:killinme
Since Steadfast and Coon are obviously not available to comment, please allow me! :D

They DID NOT say that no one on the list was pro res #4! They said it was untrue that ALL on the list were pro res #4! :)

[Thad]

My thoughts on this?

Childish nonsense.

"If I can't have my way I just won't do anything. So there". (Pouched lip included).

Much could be said about growing up, acting one's age, christian character, and spiritual maturity.



I don't think you should talk about your fellow laborers in the LOrd in suc h a disrespectul manner - you can say it without being mean spirited

[Digging4Truth]

JUst received a report that a number of Ultra Cons Sat angry with their Arms folded when it was announced that Ken haney was re-elected by an overwhelming vote !

eye witness reports said they even refused to stand in honor as most everyone else did !



YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS ????

Hopefully they will be successful in being angry yet sinning not.

[Thad]

Since Steadfast and Coon are obviously not available to comment, please allow me! :D

They DID NOT say that no one on the list was pro res #4! They said it was untrue that ALL on the list were pro res #4! :)


you are wrong!! go and take a look at what stedfast said!

he said he knows for sure that 100% of the persons on my list are against the TV R.

[Esther]

I don't think you should talk about your fellow laborers in the LOrd in suc h a disrespectul manner - you can say it without being mean spirited

What did you consider to be desrespectful?

[Thad]

What did you consider to be desrespectful?


her tone of voice

[Theresa]

you are wrong!! go and take a look at what stedfast said!

he said he knows for sure that 100% of the persons on my list are against the TV R.

no, he said he knows one of the people on the list and is 100% sure he DOESNT have a tv

[LaVonne]

I don't think you should talk about your fellow laborers in the LOrd in suc h a disrespectul manner - you can say it without being mean spirited

She's not being mean spirited...just honestly expressing how she feels.

[dizzyde]

her tone of voice

:killinme

[chseeads]

Tone of voice? She typed it... :p


And what Pianoman said, which was what I already said but he's the gloryhog that had to repeat it, about what Coony and Steadfast said is how it is.....your comprehension is off on your reading of it, Thad.

[rgcraig]

you are wrong!! go and take a look at what stedfast said!

he said he knows for sure that 100% of the persons on my list are against the TV R.
He did and then CS said that maybe two on there weren't.

[DividedThigh]

my question is when were these kind of men not angry, it is there only motivation for all they do,lol, dt:hypercoffee

[James Griffin]

I don't think you should talk about your fellow laborers in the LOrd in suc h a disrespectul manner - you can say it without being mean spirited

Just curious Thad.

I believe you were the one that said that the ministers in question sat in anger, with arm crossed, and refused to stand in honor of.....

Would you consider that "respectful Manner" ???

[rgcraig]

Here's what Steadfast said about the list that Thad posted that were for Res 4

I can absolutely 100% verify that all of them are NOT.

Could mean all of them are not for TV or that not all of them are for TV.

[Thad]

you see, i was right after all

[Thad]

Just curious Thad.

I believe you were the one that said that the ministers in question sat in anger, with arm crossed, and refused to stand in honor of.....

Would you consider that "respectful Manner" ???



do i sense sour grapes ???

[AGAPE]

;>)

:)

:0


THANK GOD that AM asked eveybody to pray before the vote tomorrow....

ALL that hear from God will vote against R4 (not to be confused with rrford)

["GL"]

Here's what Steadfast said about the list that Thad posted that were for Res 4

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/showpost.php?p=251032&postcount=4

The structure of the sentence leave you to conclude it could mean either 100% are not for Res 4 or that not all 100% are for Res 4. He qualified later in the thread.

Everyone knows AM is for the resolution.

[Thad]

;>)

:)

:0


THANK GOD that AM asked eveybody to pray before the vote tomorrow....

ALL that hear from God will vote against R4 (not to be confused with rrford)



don't worry rroford is no longer around here- he's still mad at me (really)

[tbpew]

Here's what Steadfast said about the list that Thad posted that were for Res 4



Could mean all of them are not for TV or that not all of them are for TV.

Renda, your swell.

[Esther]

:killinmeher tone of voice

:killinme:killinme:killinme

[Digging4Truth]

Here's what Steadfast said about the list that Thad posted that were for Res 4



Could mean all of them are not for TV or that not all of them are for TV.

It would seem that if it were Steadfasts intention to state that the list was completely wrong he would have said "none of them are" rather than "all of them are not"

[James Griffin]

do i sense sour grapes ???

Sour grapes? Thad I truly do not understand why you are being so defensive???

I merely asked if that were indeed what YOU said, and how you would interpret such non-verbal communication.

So to repeat.

I believe YOU said that the ministers in question, sat with arms folded, and that they were angry, and that they refused to stand with their fellow ministers in a display of unity.

My question was would YOU consider that to be respectful behaviour of their part?

[Esther]

you see, i was right after all

About what?:sos

[Thad]

Sour grapes? Thad I truly do not understand why you are being so defensive???

I merely asked if that were indeed what YOU said, and how you would interpret such non-verbal communication.

So to repeat.

I believe YOU said that the ministers in question, sat with arms folded, and that they were angry, and that they refused to stand with their fellow ministers in a display of unity.

My question was would YOU consider that to be respectful behaviour of their part?


well, they are upset that he is Pro TV which will spiritually harm the UPC

they didn't say anything disrespectful though (that i know of)

[Esther]

well, they are upset that he is Pro TV which will spiritually harm the UPC

they didn't say anything disrespectful though (that i know of)

Remember this is only speculation! NOT fact. :)

[LadyRev]

I don't think you should talk about your fellow laborers in the LOrd in suc h a disrespectul manner - you can say it without being mean spirited

Oh Ok. I see.

I'm not too good at sugarcoat but I'll try to do better next time.

[LadyRev]

her tone of voice

My "tone" of "voice"?

And you heard me on your speakers how? :killinme

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Thad, don't get Bulldog all wound up!

:dogkiss

[LadyRev]

She's not being mean spirited...just honestly expressing how she feels.

Thank you.

[Thad]

Thad, don't get Bulldog all wound up!

:dogkiss


who is bull dog ??


Hey! tell ole stedfast to come and post !

[DividedThigh]

who is bull dog ??


Hey! tell ole stedfast to come and post !

you will figure that out, lol,dt:hypercoffee

[LadyRev]

Thad, don't get Bulldog all wound up!

:dogkiss


Thats right! Don't do it! :D

[LaVonne]

Thank you.

Anytime!

Thad is irritating today!

[James Griffin]

well, they are upset that he is Pro TV which will spiritually harm the UPC

they didn't say anything disrespectful though (that i know of)

"spiritually harm the UPC"???????????

Ironically enough that would sound as though I have greater faith in the UPC than they do. It is a pretty weak brotherly unity if evangelistic commercials are all it would take to bring it to its knees. They surely are bigger than that!

[Fireside]

now wasn't it stedfast and coon that said they know for a fact that none of the people I listed on that list was for the TV resolution!!!!!

what planet are those 2 vacationing on ???????????:killinme

What meaneth this?

I attended the meeting today--part of it anyway.

I was not one of the angry arm folders.

[Steadfast]

Yes ! he said we need to use ever technological resource available today to reach the world with the gospel AND said " Brethren I am asking you to prayerfully consider your vote tomorrow " !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then he must have said it somewhere besided the Business Meeting. I didn't hear anything like that.

[Steadfast]

JUst received a report that a number of Ultra Cons Sat angry with their Arms folded when it was announced that Ken haney was re-elected by an overwhelming vote !

eye witness reports said they even refused to stand in honor as most everyone else did !



YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS ????

I sat on the fourth row and never remotely saw anything like that. It may have happened but there was NOTHING blatantly done that I saw anywhere.

On the other hand, I'm not so naive as to think that everyone was thrilled with the results of that election, either.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Then he must have said it somewhere besided the Business Meeting. I didn't hear anything like that.

Apparently NYLP is on the floor giving Thad YouTube Video Summaries!

:killinme

Did AM NOT say this on YouTube once?!?

[Steadfast]

now wasn't it stedfast and coon that said they know for a fact that none of the people I listed on that list was for the TV resolution!!!!!

what planet are those 2 vacationing on ???????????:killinme

Not so... I said that I know some that definitely aren't for it... but I also know some among them that are.

[Steadfast]

Since Steadfast and Coon are obviously not available to comment, please allow me! :D

They DID NOT say that no one on the list was pro res #4! They said it was untrue that ALL on the list were pro res #4! :)

TRUTH! (I told you I liked this guy!)

:saycheese

[Steadfast]

Here's what Steadfast said about the list that Thad posted that were for Res 4



Could mean all of them are not for TV or that not all of them are for TV.

Exactly... all of them are NOT for television; others are.

[Steadfast]

Apparently NYLP is on the floor giving Thad YouTube Video Summaries!

:killinme

Did AM NOT say this on YouTube once?!?

It's a given that AM is for it as are a few of the others. Other simply aren't.

[Dan]

I was there too and AM said nothing about the vote tomorrow! My, how gossip gets started. He was speaking on behalf of Global Impact and encouraging us to reach the world.

[NLYP]

Apparently NYLP is on the floor giving Thad YouTube Video Summaries!

:killinme

Did AM NOT say this on YouTube once?!?

Once again - Out of retirememnt I come!

NLYP is not on the floor...NLYP is in Lousiana having two funerals....

So there...
Now you know the rest of the story......

[SDG]

Once again - Out of retirememnt I come!

NLYP is not on the floor...NLYP is in Lousiana having two funerals....

So there...
Now you know the rest of the story......

What will DQ SAY ... WHAT OF THE PROMISE!!!!

Stuffing dead people is more important than GC????

[chrisfitzh2o]

It is a given that AM is for the resolution, whether he said so in today's meeting or not. However, I think that what has to be considered is the influence that he carries in the apostolic movement. At BOTT he was very convincing in his "pro-tv" statements. I believe that those who were on the fence before AM began to speak so strongly, will fall on his side of the issue. IMO it passes, regardless of the UC protests.

:pirates

[Hoovie]

Here's what Steadfast said about the list that Thad posted that were for Res 4



Could mean all of them are not for TV or that not all of them are for TV.

RG It should have been obvious to all he meant the latter. Some on the list have been very outspoken in favor of the resolution.

[Hoovie]

It is a given that AM is for the resolution, whether he said so in today's meeting or not. However, I think that what has to be considered is the influence that he carries in the apostolic movement. At BOTT he was very convincing in his "pro-tv" statements. I believe that those who were on the fence before AM began to speak so strongly, will fall on his side of the issue. IMO it passes, regardless of the UC protests.

:pirates

You are right on all accounts. IMHO

[Nahum]

Yes ! he said we need to use ever technological resource available today to reach the world with the gospel AND said " Brethren I am asking you to prayerfully consider your vote tomorrow " !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I sure didn't hear him say that!

[chaotic_resolve]

I'm quite surprised KH was "overwhelmingly" voted back in. Just a few months ago there was a mini-revolt against him and ministers were debating and discussing who should replace him.

I'm not big on it one way or the other. I think KH has done some good things, and I think in some ways it's the same and will always be the same regardless of who's in the position.

Better having KH than anyone else that was running.

[Sam]

...
Better having KH than anyone else that was running.

Who else was running?

[Brett Prince]

They've got the same britches to get glad in that they got mad in. *shrug*


That's a BIG 10-4 good buddy!

Absolutely right. We need unity now, not mad cons and screaming libs.

[Steve Epley]

It is hard to get an incumbent out, very hard.

[FRINGE_NUTTER]

They way I was taught there ARE NO ultra cons in the UPCI.

Ultracon UPCI = Oxymoron.

By the way, did the preacher say something about ox carts in the message tonight on Live webcast? I didn't catch that, if he did. No kidding.

[Nahum]

JUst received a report that a number of Ultra Cons Sat angry with their Arms folded when it was announced that Ken haney was re-elected by an overwhelming vote !

eye witness reports said they even refused to stand in honor as most everyone else did !



YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS ????

I can verify that this is true.

[Kansas Preacher]

JUst received a report that a number of Ultra Cons Sat angry with their Arms folded when it was announced that Ken haney was re-elected by an overwhelming vote !

eye witness reports said they even refused to stand in honor as most everyone else did !



YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS ????
My thoughts? Here are my thoughts -- someone needs to get a life!

I received a text message today saying that I was one of those "angry Ultra cons" who refused to stand, along with "5 guys around me" as though we planned this.

Here are the facts: I am having MAJOR back problems. I can only stand for a few minutes without finding myself in major pain. At no time did I "set angry with my arms folded." I sat, but not angry -- and not with my arms folded.

As for the "5 guys around me" -- I only knew two of them. The one on my left NEVER stood. The reason? He's in a wheelchair. He's paralyzed from the waist down as the result of a traffic accident 10 years ago.

Come on, Thad. GET A LIFE! This is gossip, pure and simple.

[CC1]

My thoughts? Here are my thoughts -- someone needs to get a life!

I received a text message today saying that I was one of those "angry Ultra cons" who refused to stand, along with "5 guys around me" as though we planned this.

Here are the facts: I am having MAJOR back problems. I can only stand for a few minutes without finding myself in major pain. At no time did I "set angry with my arms folded." I sat, but not angry -- and not with my arms folded.

As for the "5 guys around me" -- I only knew two of them. The one on my left NEVER stood. The reason? He's in a wheelchair. He's paralyzed from the waist down as the result of a traffic accident 10 years ago.

Come on, Thad. GET A LIFE! This is gossip, pure and simple.

I can't believe you ultra con weenies would let a little something like back pain and paralysis keep you from standing up in a business session!! LOL.

[Kansas Preacher]

I can't believe you ultra con weenies would let a little something like back pain and paralysis keep you from standing up in a business session!! LOL.

Pray for us. Maybe we'll eventually be able to be strong like you liberals.

:killinme

[triumphant1]

I can't believe you ultra con weenies would let a little something like back pain and paralysis keep you from standing up in a business session!! LOL.

I am absolutely appalled that something like being in a wheelchair and back injuries would actually stop someone from standing.......everyone knows us libs just pop right on up there no matter what obsticles we face...:hypercoffee

[Scott Hutchinson]

I find alot of this hard to believe.I think UCs would stand in respect for the man's position wheter they agree with him or not on every issue.

[triumphant1]

I find alot of this hard to believe.I think UCs would stand in respect for the man's position wheter they agree with him or not on every issue.

yeah, even if they have had both legs amputated at the hip joint...they should stand!!!!!!!!:killinme

[H2H]

My thoughts? Here are my thoughts -- someone needs to get a life!

I received a text message today saying that I was one of those "angry Ultra cons" who refused to stand, along with "5 guys around me" as though we planned this.

Here are the facts: I am having MAJOR back problems. I can only stand for a few minutes without finding myself in major pain. At no time did I "set angry with my arms folded." I sat, but not angry -- and not with my arms folded.

As for the "5 guys around me" -- I only knew two of them. The one on my left NEVER stood. The reason? He's in a wheelchair. He's paralyzed from the waist down as the result of a traffic accident 10 years ago.

Come on, Thad. GET A LIFE! This is gossip, pure and simple.


rg, are you reading this????

[Thad]

My thoughts? Here are my thoughts -- someone needs to get a life!

I received a text message today saying that I was one of those "angry Ultra cons" who refused to stand, along with "5 guys around me" as though we planned this.

Here are the facts: I am having MAJOR back problems. I can only stand for a few minutes without finding myself in major pain. At no time did I "set angry with my arms folded." I sat, but not angry -- and not with my arms folded.

As for the "5 guys around me" -- I only knew two of them. The one on my left NEVER stood. The reason? He's in a wheelchair. He's paralyzed from the waist down as the result of a traffic accident 10 years ago.

Come on, Thad. GET A LIFE! This is gossip, pure and simple.

*** MY RESPONSE ***

okay, I heard you out-You had your say and if I truely felt i wronged you or anyone I would apologize. however, in this case, I don't see where I should

Remember, I wasn't there , I didnt even view it live streaming so i went by what your fellow brethren reported that was there (PREACHERS lol!) NO names were mentioned here so if you didn't do anything wrong why are you defending yourself??? you are the one who brought undo attention to Yourself! i was told there were several who did not stand - how would anyone here know you were targeted unless YOU brought it to our attention

Be Blessed !

[philjones]

you see, i was right after all

Every man is right in his own eyes and according to his own interpretation!:killinme:killinme

[Kansas Preacher]

*** MY RESPONSE ***

okay, I heard you out-You had your say and if I truely felt i wronged you or anyone I would apologize. however, in this case, I don't see where I should

Remember, I wasn't there , I didnt even view it live streaming so i went by what your fellow brethren reported that was there (PREACHERS lol!) NO names were mentioned here so if you didn't do anything wrong why are you defending yourself??? you are the one who brought undo attention to Yourself! i was told there were several who did not stand - how would anyone here know you were targeted unless YOU brought it to our attention

Be Blessed !
Thad,

I responded because, as I said in my reply to you, that I was sent a text message which IMPLICATED me. I was told that I was the one being discussed. THAT is why I am defending myself.

[Rhoni]

JUst received a report that a number of Ultra Cons Sat angry with their Arms folded when it was announced that Ken haney was re-elected by an overwhelming vote !

eye witness reports said they even refused to stand in honor as most everyone else did !



YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS ????

Reminds me of those playing a board game and when they realize they are losing they tip the board over.:hypercoffee

[Joseph Miller]

Well, I personally think that KH going back in office was a very positive thing.

I also think that Res 4 passing was positive.

Res 3 is the one that should worry people.

[faithfulinlittle777]

Thaddeaus...no biggie baby...election time will come again....for those wanting new leadership...well the vote will come again just like it has for the whole life span of the upci....the ministers will speak and the group in unity will decide the next step...same protocall as always...lol....i wish u could get someone to email you pics so you could post with your newsflashes....that would be cool :)

[faithfulinlittle777]

res 3 was a miscount...recall would have to be done by st.louis...kenneth miscounted the oral votes...its all on record....nyways..4 is in the process of being overturned...
bussiness is done as it always has been...i dont see what all the excitement was about....the group in unity will have their say again in north carolina...not tulsa cause that would be disobedience....which in turn would have been the victory of the opponent...those in the game know what im talking bout....lol...nyways...what do i know right? just commenting like everyone else...lol...but uh, i do believe thats what was posted here during gc bout the error of the voting procedure tabulating...uh, i believe the actual statement was that kenneth counted ministers twice...as for 4...should have been out in the open oral...not secret n hidden...that will be addressed as well...the suits in st.louis have this...oh...n affers...pray for robert fuller...cancer i believe...he is our editor at pph...his office is in stlouis...

[Thad]

would love to have some pics ! lol

Do you have any news flashes for us? There's a lot of hungry lions hereto feed & waiting to devour any shread of meat offered :pirate

PM me if so

[Timmy]

res 3 was a miscount...recall would have to be done by st.louis...kenneth miscounted the oral votes...its all on record....nyways..4 is in the process of being overturned...
bussiness is done as it always has been...i dont see what all the excitement was about....the group in unity will have their say again in north carolina...not tulsa cause that would be disobedience....which in turn would have been the victory of the opponent...those in the game know what im talking bout....lol...nyways...what do i know right? just commenting like everyone else...lol...but uh, i do believe thats what was posted here during gc bout the error of the voting procedure tabulating...uh, i believe the actual statement was that kenneth counted ministers twice...as for 4...should have been out in the open oral...not secret n hidden...that will be addressed as well...the suits in st.louis have this...oh...n affers...pray for robert fuller...cancer i believe...he is our editor at pph...his office is in stlouis...

I haven't read much of the play-by-play. So, was it a roll call type vote, or what? How can double-counting happen? Very interesting.

For the secret ballot, I have pondered whether the number of votes cast may have exceeded the number of voters present. Last year on NFCF, there was a brief discussion of just that, but no conclusions that I recall. At one point (last year), it was reported that x voters were on the floor, and later (possibly after more voters arrived, but this wasn't determined) the votes added up to much more than x. I don't remember the numbers, but you get the idea.

Before I'm accused of inventing stuff to try to make trouble, last year, again, someone reported an incident of vote tampering from several years earlier. A nonvoter (not eligible) was approached and asked to cast a vote anyway. A rare, isolated event?

[Joseph Miller]

4 is in the process of being overturned...

How are they going to over turn it? The ones staying want it. If they hold a meeting to vote on it I know some people who weren't in Tampa to vote that would show up to support the passing on the res.

[ChicagoPastor]

I don't know who the newbie is but he has his facts all wrong.
Resolution 4 is NOT going to be overturned....
It will NOT come up in N.C. It's over and done with.

[Thad]

I don't know who the newbie is but he has his facts all wrong.
Resolution 4 is NOT going to be overturned....
It will NOT come up in N.C. It's over and done with.


CP, at conference there was talk of the Cons staying in the UPC and trying to overturn it - just talk though . I think that most have come to the realization that there is no turning back now

[TRIPLE E]

CP, at conference there was talk of the Cons staying in the UPC and trying to overturn it - just talk though . I think that most have come to the realization that there is no turning back now

I think we may get a little surprise In January as the Cons meet to become a united front Within the UPCI.After all the org is as much theirs as it is the Libs.Who is to say that resolution 4 will not be overturned or severely amended at the next GC?

[stmatthew]

I think we may get a little surprise In January as the Cons meet to become a united front Within the UPCI.After all the org is as much theirs as it is the Libs.Who is to say that resolution 4 will not be overturned or severely amended at the next GC?


I do not see an overthrow of Res #4, but this (bolded above) is very possible IF a "united" front on the conservative side is mounted. All it will take is a resolution written and put on the floor.

[Thad]

I think we may get a little surprise In January as the Cons meet to become a united front Within the UPCI.After all the org is as much theirs as it is the Libs.Who is to say that resolution 4 will not be overturned or severely amended at the next GC?




are you going to Tulsa ??

[faithfulinlittle777]

gee thad u werent tripping when u said that:)

well im no newbie....ive been around before haneywood....ill be around after...
guys seriously though...its just paperwork..seriously...no joke...just like theres been no word from hq about kenneth n carla dean's daddy joining...guys things are handled officially...its just paperwork....n personally i dont see tulsa happening cause anyone that went would be in open rebellion...those in the game long enough know the score...

[faithfulinlittle777]

ok let me break it down....for those of u not licensed ministers...

ok....let me choose my words carefully.....

ok, libs n cons can agree with me on this one i know...right? this is just what the Word says...were not even talking manual yet...
ok...by submitting u overturn so to speak the hostile situation...ask ur pastor if u dont believe me...thats why there will be no tulsa...larry is not going to openly defy the office...regardless of his personal opinion...cause larry knows the score see...larrys been around long enough to recognize the situation..i would think...although he is younger than those i know....see im just saying...not even looking at the manual..looking at the Word...thats all...lol, but i guess im a newbie here...hi everyone how are ya?

[Thad]

gee thad u werent tripping when u said that:)

well im no newbie....ive been around before haneywood....ill be around after...
guys seriously though...its just paperwork..seriously...no joke...just like theres been no word from hq about kenneth n carla dean's daddy joining...guys things are handled officially...its just paperwork....n personally i dont see tulsa happening cause anyone that went would be in open rebellion...those in the game long enough know the score...


said what? asking someone if the was going to Tulsa or what i asked you?(that's why we use quotes here :pirate)

I would love if if KH showed up at the Tulsa meeting!!!!!! :stirpot

[TRIPLE E]

I do not see an overthrow of Res #4, but this (bolded above) is very possible IF a "united" front on the conservative side is mounted. All it will take is a resolution written and put on the floor.

Thats it after all resolutions and amendments are all paperwork right faithfulinlittlethings777?

[TRIPLE E]

said what? asking someone if the was going to Tulsa or what i asked you?(that's why we use quotes here :pirate)

I would love if if KH showed up at the Tulsa meeting!!!!!! :stirpot

I think it would be great if KH and a few more showed up for Tulsa it could be a real eye-opener for certain individuals!

[ChicagoPastor]

According to the new guy, there IS not such meeting taking place in Tulsa....
It's all an illusion!

[faithfulinlittle777]

lol...my bad thad...ill try to do better..."HUNGRY LIONS".....

ILLUSION-AN APPEARANCE OF SOMETHING THAT IS NOT AS IT ACTUALLY IS.

UH YEAH...DIDNT YOU GET THE MEMO TRIPLE E? LOL....

[faithfulinlittle777]

Are We Looking At Individuals Or Are We Looking Up?

Does It Matter If Ken Spoke To Us Or Not?

[dizzyde]

I think it would be great if KH and a few more showed up for Tulsa it could be a real eye-opener for certain individuals!

:drama

[faithfulinlittle777]

first of all triple e...there will be no tulsa...
second...how are ya? i see u did get the memo n ur from canada i believe?
well its nice to meet u...third, ken wont do tulsa cause ken not going to cause anyone hurt or pain....his father taught him better u know....n when did it ever become ok to "show" someone anything...
why not let God do his job?
hes on this i assure you....n sorry...i just dont see hatred as an answer...n yes im prepared for your attack....go ahead n egg me...

[faithfulinlittle777]

uh...pew, strange where r u? u can come out now...roads clear...

[Thad]

No Tulsa??? oooooh , okay


Thank you for informing us

[Thad]

I think it would be great if KH and a few more showed up for Tulsa it could be a real eye-opener for certain individuals!



I know some LIbs who are going on purpose- I asked them " WHY" ???

some people are just too curious and like Drama ( i wouldn't be one of those ) :pirate

[dizzyde]

first of all triple e...there will be no tulsa...
second...how are ya? i see u did get the memo n ur from canada i believe?
well its nice to meet u...third, ken wont do tulsa cause ken not going to cause anyone hurt or pain....his father taught him better u know....n when did it ever become ok to "show" someone anything...
why not let God do his job?
hes on this i assure you....n sorry...i just dont see hatred as an answer...n yes im prepared for your attack....go ahead n egg me...

I'm sorry, I guess I am just obtuse, what on earth are you saying?? Actually, all of it, but in particular, the Tulsa part. Are you saying that the meeting in Tulsa will not happen at all?? Haven't the announcements been sent out already? Are you saying they will call it off? It is my understanding that this is a meeting that has actually been going on for several years. As to the rest, I'm just confused, I don't understand your phrasing.

[dizzyde]

I know some LIbs who are going on purpose- I asked them " WHY" ???

some people are just too curious and like Drama ( i wouldn't be one of those ) :pirate

RIGHT!!!!!!!!!! :killinme :killinme

[faithfulinlittle777]

being faithful in little triple e doesnt neceisitate(dont really care to sp) little things...
wow! i think u know who i am n are openly attacking me just like so many of ur group has been doing to so many cons for so looong...but ive got the door baby n larry doesnt have to leave...
n yeah...paperwork is paperwork...u just have to be trained to do the job right....thaddeaus...am i generating a market yet? gee this is fun.....n baby i know whats in Canada...game over...i mean really that you would post such a thing like that n expect me to take it...like im going to or any other so called con...gee...really...what every happened to respect?

[faithfulinlittle777]

dizzy...no i really dont see tulsa...sigh...what has to happen now is the group has to stay together...see what happened to me when i just posted...how i was attacked by triple e...ok...see thats what the ministers are having to deal with...but according to the Word...again...were not even talking denomination affiliaiton...you respect the office even if u dont personally agree...again, i just dont see larry doing tulsa....he will snail mail everyone his final choice...but hes not been in this for as long as some of us others n thus he is unprepared for this level of public relations n leadership decision making...look, bottom line....doesnt matter what i think about ken its the fact that hes my GS n i respect the office so....if i were to go against him....that would be rebellion....thats all im saying...am i larrys spokesperson..no...im just a poster like the rest of u guys....n im saying hate doesnt solve a thing....so stop the hate n come together in love...n unity will prevail....thats all im saying..but hey...this is thads thread...ill let him handle up:)

[ChicagoPastor]

ummmmmmmmm...........

[ChicagoPastor]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh................





















WHAT?

[dizzyde]

dizzy...no i really dont see tulsa...sigh...what has to happen now is the group has to stay together...see what happened to me when i just posted...how i was attacked by triple e...ok...see thats what the ministers are having to deal with...but according to the Word...again...were not even talking denomination affiliaiton...you respect the office even if u dont personally agree...again, i just dont see larry doing tulsa....he will snail mail everyone his final choice...but hes not been in this for as long as some of us others n thus he is unprepared for this level of public relations n leadership decision making...look, bottom line....doesnt matter what i think about ken its the fact that hes my GS n i respect the office so....if i were to go against him....that would be rebellion....thats all im saying...am i larrys spokesperson..no...im just a poster like the rest of u guys....n im saying hate doesnt solve a thing....so stop the hate n come together in love...n unity will prevail....thats all im saying..but hey...this is thads thread...ill let him handle up:)

I think maybe I'm getting your drift, and I agree, it would be a wonderful world if we all would just love each other and respect each others differences, but I think that it is just a dream at this point. That ship has sailed, so to speak.

[Thad]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....... ......................


wake me up when this conversation is over :runhills

[ChicagoPastor]

I'm done.....Thad, I love Thad's Tab but we might want to close this thread...

[faithfulinlittle777]

lol...why close?

[faithfulinlittle777]

nyways...why are u guys so tense...lol..cant u take a joke?

n triple e...ur gonna have to show me the good side of canada...ok?

[faithfulinlittle777]

aw are u saying im not a good conversationalist thad?
ouch....lol...thad, do you have a cd yet? if so please tell me the link...seriously...
n eee....i assume its paperwork yes....n procedure...my manual is over to my left..but seriously..i will answer any question u have...seriously...maybe i misunderstood u.....

[faithfulinlittle777]

lol...aw come on dizzy...dont throw your ticket out yet...shows just getting started girl...lol...

[Thad]

aw are u saying im not a good conversationalist thad?
ouch....lol...thad, do you have a cd yet? if so please tell me the link...seriously...
n eee....i assume its paperwork yes....n procedure...my manual is over to my left..but seriously..i will answer any question u have...seriously...maybe i misunderstood u.....


everything's cool- no cd.

[TRIPLE E]

first of all triple e...there will be no tulsa...
second...how are ya? i see u did get the memo n ur from canada i believe?
well its nice to meet u...third, ken wont do tulsa cause ken not going to cause anyone hurt or pain....his father taught him better u know....n when did it ever become ok to "show" someone anything...
why not let God do his job?
hes on this i assure you....n sorry...i just dont see hatred as an answer...n yes im prepared for your attack....go ahead n egg me...

faithfulinlittle I have no attention of egging anyone but how come you perceive the meeting in Tulsa as a result of hatred? I hope I'm misreading your post.

[faithfulinlittle777]

thad,
i saw a video clip of ur music...i think ur good...so...why not just tape n post on myspace music n cut down on the cost of going in the studio? seriously, i saw your clip, heard your music, so i know it would be a little time consuming...but worth it i think....seriously...u should look it to it:)
I DEMAND A THAD CD!!!!

[TRIPLE E]

I know some LIbs who are going on purpose- I asked them " WHY" ???

some people are just too curious and like Drama ( i wouldn't be one of those ) :pirate

I like the drama just can't afford the trip to Tulsa!:pirate

[TRIPLE E]

being faithful in little triple e doesnt neceisitate(dont really care to sp) little things...
wow! i think u know who i am n are openly attacking me just like so many of ur group has been doing to so many cons for so looong...but ive got the door baby n larry doesnt have to leave...
n yeah...paperwork is paperwork...u just have to be trained to do the job right....thaddeaus...am i generating a market yet? gee this is fun.....n baby i know whats in Canada...game over...i mean really that you would post such a thing like that n expect me to take it...like im going to or any other so called con...gee...really...what every happened to respect?

I'm sorry faithfulinlittle but I have no idea who you are and I haven't yet figured out whether you are lib,mod or con.Sorry for adding "little things" if it has offended you so.:snapout

[faithfulinlittle777]

Well....the way i think this has played out..again i could be wrong..im just thinking here...doesnt mean im right...matter of fact, i might be wrong..but see e, what im saying is....there has been soooo much stuff going on lately that seriously i dont know even how to condense this...see the way i see it is...ok, why were the cons shown the door? does that make sense...u see what im saying? why was there so much tension n stuff.....see...the guys that have been in longer than larry arent going anywhere...cause theyll react like i said...cause its just protocall...what im saying is...why cant there be unity? u see what im saying? tulsa is a result of larry n his group being hated on by the other guys...e it was really bad...so...see...they are hurting right now...cause they cant believe that their trust n stuff was shaken...so tulsa is a result of a hate issue...ive seen it going down for a while...but the level of uncompassion shocked me, i must admit...never in all my life did i witness such utter lack of love....see....its almost as though those guys went in without a chance....see e they were attacked for their creed by their own...so...ok....if u disagree thats fine...but the level of hostility i see even in the local level is shocking e...its as though everyone has forgotten the true purpose...love n unity...thats what im thinking...again i could be wrong...

[faithfulinlittle777]

oh u didnt offend me...remember..we take no offense...lol...its nice to discuss things with you...guess that last cup of coffee was a bit much huh?:)

[faithfulinlittle777]

hey guys...do u realize we are now in the running for the longest thread here on aff...cool huh?:)

[Mr. Steinway]

hey guys...do u realize we are now in the running for the longest thread here on aff...cool huh?:)
Hey....I would blast you if I had a clue to what you are saying!!!!!!!!!!

All I'm hearing is blah blah blah blah paperwork! Blah blah blah Tulsa is not happening! Blah blah blah blah Canada!

What is it exactly that you are trying to say????????????

[TRIPLE E]

Well....the way i think this has played out..again i could be wrong..im just thinking here...doesnt mean im right...matter of fact, i might be wrong..but see e, what im saying is....there has been soooo much stuff going on lately that seriously i dont know even how to condense this...see the way i see it is...ok, why were the cons shown the door? does that make sense...u see what im saying? why was there so much tension n stuff.....see...the guys that have been in longer than larry arent going anywhere...cause theyll react like i said...cause its just protocall...what im saying is...why cant there be unity? u see what im saying? tulsa is a result of larry n his group being hated on by the other guys...e it was really bad...so...see...they are hurting right now...cause they cant believe that their trust n stuff was shaken...so tulsa is a result of a hate issue...ive seen it going down for a while...but the level of uncompassion shocked me, i must admit...never in all my life did i witness such utter lack of love....see....its almost as though those guys went in without a chance....see e they were attacked for their creed by their own...so...ok....if u disagree thats fine...but the level of hostility i see even in the local level is shocking e...its as though everyone has forgotten the true purpose...love n unity...thats what im thinking...again i could be wrong...

Are you thinking that some kind of reconciliation could occur say at a place like BOTT and the Tulsa meeting will come to naught?

[faithfulinlittle777]

well im thinking.....hang on....im thinking real hard....the only obstacle to that e would be if certain cons were not given the proper call n the welcome mat laid out...n i dont see nyone being unwelcome at BOTT:) i so dont see anyone being unwelcome at BOTT. matter of fact...i really dont see why anyone would not show love to anyone...yes...i think there is already a reconciliation taking place...again....just my thoughts....n im thinking...any preacher be they lib or con is smart enough to recognize confusion n work to heal the situation...u see what im saying...so that everyone is comfortable n not uneasy....i think everything will be okay e, seriously...this will all pass....n things are now back to normal....honestly...

[TRIPLE E]

well im thinking.....hang on....im thinking real hard....the only obstacle to that e would be if certain cons were not given the proper call n the welcome mat laid out...n i dont see nyone being unwelcome at BOTT:) i so dont see anyone being unwelcome at BOTT. matter of fact...i really dont see why anyone would not show love to anyone...yes...i think there is already a reconciliation taking place...again....just my thoughts....n im thinking...any preacher be they lib or con is smart enough to recognize confusion n work to heal the situation...u see what im saying...so that everyone is comfortable n not uneasy....i think everything will be okay e, seriously...this will all pass....n things are now back to normal....honestly...

faithful why did you think I knew who you were a couple posts back?

[faithfulinlittle777]

lol pianoman...i guess i was just trying to shed some light on tulsa...i dont know i think i may have confused myself....lol....

[faithfulinlittle777]

lol e...well..it was just a hunch thats all...but like u said...i needed to snap out of it...im sure i was wrong...nyways what does it matter who you are....or who i am...arent we all in God's family? :)

[faithfulinlittle777]

e...with all the stuff thats been going on...i think we all have been a bit on defense. this is my first day to post here...but ive read the posts before...n so...lets just say e...i think you and i are on the same page now...n heres the deal...i think we both agree that there has been some major miscommunication between a lot of people...n lets just say i watched n observed the whole thing go down with the knowledge that i uh am in a public forum n uh...it appears as though the confusion continues e to those who would not know the business...i thought i knew you n you knew me because of certain things ud said...but again....what does it matter nyways...were all in this together..n i took no offense...n you meant none..so nyways...its all good bro....lol....many things i am, perfect, as u know, not one of them :)

[Mr. Steinway]

lol pianoman...i guess i was just trying to shed some light on tulsa...i dont know i think i may have confused myself....lol....

If you're saying that the Tulsa meeting will be much ado about nothing, you could be right! By February, some could have cooled off and counted the cost of leaving the UPCI. :) I guess we'll wait and see!!!