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Felicity 04-18-2007 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 79226)
I couldn't remember - thanks!

Welcome!

So can we vote or not?

I firmly believe that standards are a consecration issue but also can be a matter of coming under authority.

It's hard to choose just one of those choices.

mfblume 04-18-2007 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Felicity (Post 79565)

I firmly believe that standards are a consecration issue but also can be a matter of coming under authority.

It's hard to choose just one of those choices.


Good points. Agreed.

Pressing-On 04-18-2007 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 79557)
I agree that would be quite immodest. There is a problem that needs to be corrected. But necessarily hell? What about someone just newly saved and was never taught modesty yet? Never even had the time for God to deal with them about such things?

Anyway, watch the thread fly... and others get no where. lol

This is the thing, Brother Blume! We need the Lord to do the work and how blessed it would be to see that happen. That's a work of the Holy Ghost.

rgcraig 04-18-2007 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 78847)
Okay, apparently I am naive about this issue, so I'm taking a poll. Please only answer the poll if you are a licensed UPCI minister. (It's open so that can be verified, if need be.)

It has always been my understanding that standards and rules and guidelines were not heaven or hell issues, but rather preferences, protective measures, boundaries, or issues of personal consecration. I was not aware that a large majority of the UPCI ministerial constituency taught these things as heaven/hell issues or salvational issues.

I guess I've been in the dark all these years. So enlighten me.

Miss Bratt was hoping for only licensed UPCI ministers, however no one is following instructions.

Pressing-On 04-18-2007 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 79569)
Miss Bratt was hoping for only licensed UPCI ministers, however no one is following instructions.

I'm following the crowd! :happydance

rgcraig 04-18-2007 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 79570)
I'm following the crowd! :happydance

Baaaaaa!

Pressing-On 04-18-2007 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 79571)
Baaaaaa!

I'm very submissive and cooperative, aren't you?
:happydance

mfblume 04-18-2007 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 79568)
This is the thing, Brother Blume! We need the Lord to do the work and how blessed it would be to see that happen. That's a work of the Holy Ghost.

Right. And everyone is on a different part of their journey since Acts 2:38. Some further than others. Except the Lord build this house, we labour in vain who do build. We can throw something onto someone who will not do it as a work of the Spirit, but immature blind following, which can lead them to legalism.

Pressing-On 04-18-2007 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 79575)
Right. And everyone is on a different part of their journey since Acts 2:38. Some further than others.

YES! We must be sensitive in the Spirit.

Ferd 04-18-2007 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 79557)
I agree that would be quite immodest. There is a problem that needs to be corrected. But necessarily hell? What about someone just newly saved and was never taught modesty yet? Never even had the time for God to deal with them about such things?

Anyway, watch the thread fly... and others get no where. lol

well, I do think that someone still sucking on a milk bottle that should be eating meat, is in jeapordy of hell....


so, it is perfectly fine for a new convert to continue previous behavior that the spirit of God has not convicted them of, while that same person a few years down the line would be sinning for doing something like this.


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