Originally Posted by missourimary (Post 820510)

D4T, RGC,

very true. Survivors have always looked for the positive or the possibilities in their situations, rather than the problems. We would do well to look for the possibilities and the positives and remain flexible. It could be bad, it could be worse. Something will happen, but I will prepare the best I can and trust God for the rest.

Good things about the economic crisis:
Obama's approval rating has dropped enormously and the media is no longer 100% behind him. (:heeheehee)
(sorry, couldn't resist that one)
Improved health:
More exercise
Need to eat healthier foods (they are less expensive and more affordable and accessible in crisis)
Loss of extra weight!

Improved budgeting:
Increased debt awareness
Paid off debt
Re-analysis of what is necessary and what is fluff in life

Waste reduction:
Less waste, more saving
More recycling

Mental improvement:
Less distraction
More sleep (no lights at night to keep you up)
Less busy-ness
More time for prayer and more fulfilling work (hands on work that gives you personal results is VERY fulfilling)

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 820377)

AQP, look at it this way.

We have a fiat economy. What that means is the actual value of the dollar bills you carry is based on the perceived value of the American economy as a whole.

Now when the American economy dominates the world, that dollar buys a whole lot of stuff. It does so because everyone wants it. where their economies are unstable ours is stable and thus the reason they want our dollars.

Now consider the value of anything is based on how many people want it, vs how many of the objects there are available.

If you are the only apple farmer in the world and you produce a very tasty fruit, the whole world wants your apples and you can simply "sell to the highest bidder". people with lots to offer you get apples while those with nothing eat pears.

Now if somehow, some folk learn how to grow apples and their apples taste as good as yours then there are now more people with apples to sell, there are more apples and now, there are more bidders that can win apples.

Your apples lost value because there are more apples out there....BUT

What if instead of more apples being out there, the pear farmers figure out that if they can get people to hate apples, then more people will want pears?

Let’s say for some reason that apples start making people really really sick. Now nobody wants your apples. You may have the only apples on the world but if nobody wants your apples they have no value.

The American economy is seeing both of these things happen. Other nations like China and Europe have stable and valuable currency. some people want theirs now to go with ours.... that makes ours less valuable because the market place now has options (more apples from other growers)

At the same time, our economy is NOT stable and our government policy is making it less stable. That means fewer people want our currency. The value of our dollars has dropped because fewer people want to take our dollars for their goods…..


That is called inflation. All the sudden now instead of a dollar to buy bread, it takes more dollars, not because bread is more valuable but because the dollar is less valuable.

Your question was how bad. Consider history. In Germany, before WW2 it got to the point that bread cost $50,000 marks… Then in desperation the people turned to a charismatic figure who told them he had a plan to get them out of the economic mess.

That man was Hitler. Desperate people will do anything to feed their kids. They will even elect a Hitler. And march off to war and commit unspeakable horror.

I don’t mean to be beyond the pale here, but the answer to “how bad can it get” can only be answered with “How bad has it gotten before”?

That answer is pretty scary.

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 820372)

Matthew 6:30-34

30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?

31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?

32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.

33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 820410)

:whistle

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 820527)

I saw your post, Timmy. When I was reading this thread the Lord brought this song to my mind:

Think about His love
Think about His goodness
Think about His grace that brought us through
For as high as the heavens above
So great is the measure of our Father's love
So great is the measure of our Father's love :sing

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 820529)

Yep... I saw his post too. But he doesn't make any statement as to what he is trying to say so I'm not sure what to say back.

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 820531)

Oh, I was just quoting scripture that doesn't seem to have any relevance to the thread at all. Don't mind me! :lol

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 820529)

Yep... I saw his post too. But he doesn't make any statement as to what he is trying to say so I'm not sure what to say back.

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 820533)

Actually it is very relevant. I was just wondering if you had any thoughts on its application to this discussion?