I'm pretty thick-skinned, so this outrageous insult just rolls off. If it makes you happy to think I am defending Islamic terrorists, carry on.

What??? How long ago does something have to have happened before it becomes irrelevant? Do you guys really believe the Bible or don't you? Hop into a time machine and set the dial for that "passover" night. Find an Egyptian home at midnight, or the next morning. Is there a mom and dad sobbing uncontrollably, or not? Go back to Noah's time, just as the flood starts. Are there people drowning, fighting for breath, and dying, or not? Go watch God's wrath poured out on babies and pregnant women. Watch God's warriors rape those evil women, under orders.

"God never changes" you say? Well, if the OT accounts are accurate, I, for one, am glad He did change! (Get nit-picky, if you like: He didn't change, His way of dealing with people changed. Fine. I'm glad for that.)

Imagination. Just as I thought. You guys have trouble believing the horrors attributed to God in the OT, don't you.

[QUOTE]Sorry that you thought I was insulting you. It just appeared that you are stoutly defending them while placing the onus on the Jews and Christians. Speaking just from my perspective alone.

But, no insult was intended at all.

See. Here you do it again.

If my remark was considered an insult, this statement leaves me totally confused if you are not defending the Islamic terrorist.

I gotta be missing something...somewhere. I'm just judging from appearance.

How long? Less than half a generation. How is that for an answer.

I don’t need to shrink away from the OT or what God did to see that does not apply as a comparison between modern day Islamic fundamentalists and Christians.

And Gods actions in the OT were not based on whim. Pharaoh hardened his own heart before God turned him to his doom.

The people in Noah's day had 300 years of hearing the preacher before God rained destruction on them.

Your moral equivalence game is silly.

[QUOTE=Brother Strange;197899]OK, no prob. Still don't see how you got that from my posts, but fine.

I am not saying Islam isn't evil.

I am just wondering why the religion of the OT is not considered evil. That it happened thousands of years ago is irrelevant. I think the only possibilites are:

1. God did evil things back then, but He doesn't anymore (presumably).

2. Those things are not evil. Killing babies, rape, and slashing pregnant women are holy and just, in the right context.

3. God didn't really do those things or give those orders. The Bible is wrong, in those places.

Are there others?

Uh, if you're serious, Hitler was longer ago than a half generation. Are his doings irrelevant now?

Not that it matters (it was so long ago), but I don't see that in the Bible. I see God hardening his heart, from the beginning of Moses' dealings with him about setting God's people free. Exodus 4:21. And he did this several times, and the reason was to show everyone who was boss. For a chance to do wonderful miracles (plagues, including the first-born killings).

And what reason would they have had to believe him?

If you say so.

Are you intending again here to minimize the important issue by being trite?

Like I said. I feel vindicated. Timmy you are appearing more and more to be exactly you claim you are not or are not doing. Back to the TOPIC please. the relevant topic. Stop attempting to minimize this growing imminent threat with the obfuscation and red herrings

"Again"? Show me where I minimized the issue in any way whatsoever. If you are referring to the "no idea" icon, sorry. Not intended to be trite. Just indicating that I have no idea how to deal with the problem today.

OK. I will stop attempting to minimize this growing imminent threat. Sigh.

Yeah, you guys caught me. I love those terrorists. I jumped for joy on 9/11/01.

In case you didn't catch it, that was sarcasm! The following is not:

Let's see. The topic. OK, I agree with Bro Strange that, if the Quran instructs its followers to kill non-Muslims, it's evil. I am not being trite, not sarcastic, and I'm not kidding. It is evil.

You happy?

That is how....what difference does it make of the purpose? It's a discussion and an issue. It seems from the beginning that you keep trying to railroad the discussion. Here the underlying suggestion is perhaps we can't do anything so lets just ignore it and talk about how the bible has stuff in it...perhaps I am wrong, but I'm not the only one that notices this