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If we go by votes in the Senate, Obama and Hillary look like they agree on most issues.

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Oh and while we are on the subject, he is very friendly with a known liberal TERRORIST

Growing up my daddy used to tell me "show me your friends and I will tell you who you are"

Re: Barak Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination
 

Fair enough Ferd.
Look at McCain's & Clinton's friends.

Some choice huh?

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to be fair here is another

Agree to final passage of a bill implementing the 9/11 commission's homeland-security recommendations, including a provision extending collective bargaining rights to federal security screeners. March 13. (60-38) L-3
it was that last part that would have hamstrung the Homeland Security Department. and this idiot voted for it because of liberal idiology and political silliness.

Obama is a whacked out liberal who thinks LBJ and Jimmy "the idiot" Carter were great presidents!

Obama needs to be picking up dog poop in the local park, not running for president!

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All of Clintons friends are dead (ie Vince Foster)

McCains "friends" and by that I mean the folk he has hung with for the last 20 years or so, tend to not be guilty of BOMING THE PENTEGON.

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You're too much, Ferd! :toofunny It's good to have you back! You've been missed.

Re: Barak Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination
 

Ferd I just don't understand what you mean when you say things like "making us lose the war in Iraq". That was bungled without help from Obama or anyone else for that matter. I don't even want to mention Afghanistan.
I just want to have all the facts for myself. What the National Journal considers a liberal position based on the fact the "conservatives" are opposed can be misleading.
It's just that this White House has destroyed my trust in it to a great enough extent that things are not as simple as they used to be.

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yikes, scarwy, lol

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Here is another vote by our guy Obama

Support non-embryonic-stem-cell research. April 11. (70-28; 60 votes required because of a unanimous consent agreement) C-2


He voted no.

you know why? because he wants embrionic stemcell research.

Forget the scientific fact that non-embrionic stemcell research is actually being USED to treat people and the other kind (you know, the kind that kills a HUMAN BEING) has not been proven successfull at all.

LIBERAL ABOVE GOOD SENSE!

But Barak wants change and "Changey-Change-Change" is the all important issue!

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Ferd here is a repost of some of what I said earlier:

My point is that I am much more interested in his views than in his "connections". Some of the connections have been tenuous and incidental at best (like with Ayers), but that has been so hyped that it seems to preempt real conversation on his views. Everytime I hear Hannity rave for 30 minutes about that instead of about Obama, it makes him seem less credible and more partisan or vindictive. I want to know about his views and how he has governed and would govern.

He and Ayers are two people prominent in the Chicago political scene and have served on boards together and been at the same functions... Ayers did despicable things when Obama was in short pants (no offense dt . No one has demonstrated any more significant relationship than that.
I just am saying that when you begin to make mountains out of mole hills, people begin to wonder if there really are as many actual mountains as you may claim. Like I said I am not a supporter of any at this point but I am tired of politics and talking heads as usual.