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mfblume

01-24-2009 10:57 PM

Re: Jesus forsaken?

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Originally Posted by rava61 (Post 690799)

Hey, I'm just glad He did it for us you know - without that sacrifice we would not have a chance; but because of what He did, the door was opened to the whole world (which was really the initial plan from the beginning).

Don't forget to check out my video on Youtube.com - The Singing Chaplain.

RV

Amen. That's the bottom line. This is not the Spanish Inquisition. lol

Evang.Benincasa

01-24-2009 10:58 PM

Re: Jesus forsaken?

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Originally Posted by rava61 (Post 690799)

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Evang.Benincasa

01-24-2009 10:59 PM

Re: Jesus forsaken?

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 690800)

Amen. That's the bottom line. This is not the Spanish Inquisition. lol

No just intermission. :heeheehee

mfblume

01-24-2009 11:00 PM

Re: Jesus forsaken?

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 690802)

No just intermission. :heeheehee

Haha. Good one!

Thanks. :)

Evang.Benincasa

01-24-2009 11:01 PM

Re: Jesus forsaken?

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 690804)

Haha. Good one!

Thanks. :)

You're welcome. ;)

TK Burk

01-24-2009 11:03 PM

Re: Jesus forsaken?

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Originally Posted by TK Burk (Post 690790)

You said He died spiritually because Adam died spiritually. Now you say that it is about Jesus losing His "comforting influence"? Again, is that what Adam lost? Where does it say that? So when a person is Born Again, is the life that they receive a renewed "comforting influence"?

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 690797)

No no no. Think about it. Adam never ever had what we have now that we're saved. He never had anything similar to the abiding presence of the Holy Ghost in him as we now do.

Thanks for the answer, but it does not address what I asked. Please look again...

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Originally Posted by TK Burk (Post 690790)

You said He died spiritually because Adam died spiritually. Now you say that it is about Jesus losing His "comforting influence"? Again, is that what Adam lost? Where does it say that? So when a person is Born Again, is the life that they receive a renewed "comforting influence"?

Thanks again....

mfblume

01-24-2009 11:08 PM

Re: Jesus forsaken?

I did answer you. :)

Check again. Jesus PRACTICALLY, for all intents and purposes, experienced spiritual death. Make that more than what it should be. That is ok. Whatever. I believe Jesus experienced spiritual death when he took my sins or else He did not take my sins.

Other than that, it's what rava said.

Why would you ask if we only receive comforting influence when born again? lol. We receive God's very Spirit in us. You know I believe that. I can tell you how many pores are on my left little finger's last knuckle, if you wish. :) May take some time though.

Are you still considering the bible God's Word? That is the sort of questions you are asking me. Come on, bro. :)

Anyway, God bless you, too. :)

PS I got some questions on some posts you never answered me yet for years now. ;)

Evang.Benincasa

01-24-2009 11:10 PM

Re: Jesus forsaken?

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Originally Posted by TK Burk (Post 690790)

"Spiritual death" is what you first said occured to Jesus on the cross. You said He died spiritually because Adam died spiritually. Now you say that it is about Jesus losing His "comforting influence"? Again, is that what Adam lost? Where does it say that? So when a person is Born Again, is the life that they receive a renewed "comforting influence"?

Yes he did use the term "Spiritual Death" first. :)

Evang.Benincasa

01-24-2009 11:16 PM

Re: Jesus forsaken?

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 690807)

I did answer you. :)

Check again. Jesus PRACTICALLY, for all intents and purposes, experienced spiritual death.

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 690702)

I have yet to see you answer my questions.

Do you believe in "spiritual death"? Where does the bible use the terms "spiritual death"? If the bible does not use those terms, why would you believe in "spiritual death"? What scriptures would you use to prove "spiritual death" if the bible does not use that phrase?

:ursofunny

Evang.Benincasa

01-24-2009 11:21 PM

Re: Jesus forsaken?

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 690807)

Check again. Jesus PRACTICALLY, for all intents and purposes, experienced spiritual death.

In other words Jesus kind of died a "spiritual death" and had His "comforting influence" removed from Him?

How's that sound Brother Blume?

Am I gettin learnt yet?

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