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DividedThigh

01-14-2010 10:34 AM

Re: This Is Why Non-Christians Hate Us

even if i believed that i wouldnt say it, how sad, people are suffering, i will pray for them, dt

notofworks

01-14-2010 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 865417)

Hey, watch, everybody! Timmy and NoW are gonna have a fight! :toofunny :toofunny :toofunny

J/K. I know what you mean. I think. I mean, who wouldn't "support all that God does"?

Or maybe I know what I want you to mean by that! :lol As you all know, I don't believe accounts of God's wicked actions. I think God gets a bum rap. :)

:lol Notice, I didn't say, "Agree with everything", I said, "Support." What I don't agree with, I figure, "We will understand it better by and by" (I just sang that last line). :toofunny

*AQuietPlace*

01-14-2010 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Coffee99

Sometimes, it's simply a matter of people looking for a way to reconcile a terrible event with a purpose.

True. It's so hard, and a very common struggle, to reconcile a God who is in control of all things... with really bad things happening. We look for reasons why God allowed something so horrible to happen.

notofworks

01-14-2010 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Coffee99 (Post 865420)

I think God gets the blame for a lot of things for which He had asolutely nothing to do. Perhaps it is a way for some to feel more spiritual. Perhaps it is a way for some people to dodge responsibility for poor personal choices. Sometimes, it's simply a matter of people looking for a way to reconcile a terrible event with a purpose.

Totally!! Not everything needs to be or can be explained. Some stuff just happens. In the words of Forrest Gump...."Things happen". Well, Forrest put it differently but I'd get banned forever if I quoted him.

One of the most frustrating things is when the preacher stands at the casket and tries to explain why we're there. "Heaven needed another flower" or whatever. Ugh.

Timmy

01-14-2010 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 865425)

:lol Notice, I didn't say, "Agree with everything", I said, "Support." What I don't agree with, I figure, "We will understand it better by and by" (I just sang that last line). :toofunny

:uhoh

How can you support something without (necessarily) agreeing with it?

Here it comes. Get ready. You may never see this again:

:foottap

There. I tapped my foot at NoW. Notify the press!

:lol

Ev. Duane Williams

01-14-2010 10:57 AM

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Luke 13:4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?
I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish

Sometimes bad things happen to good people, like when the mental illness took over Pat Robertson's mind so many years ago. The man is off his rocker, and should have been yanked from the airwaves a long time ago.

Jeffrey

01-14-2010 11:13 AM

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Yancey's Where Is God When It Hurts is a profound response to those who are trying to find a "reason" or "cause" in this. His thoughts on the subject of pain (borrowed thoughts), are remarkable.

notofworks

01-14-2010 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 865431)

:toofunny I understand the appearance of contradiction. I support my wife even when I don't agree with her? My son? Does that work?

Seriously, I don't understand some things as I read about Him in the bible. I consider the possibility......Naw, I'm not even gonna say it. I struggle with the flood, Sodom....I reeeeaaly struggle with the book of Job, but highly value the lessons learned from it, especially chapter 32-on when Elihu shows up. Love that part.

But I won't claim to have the answer to this stuff or to be able to make some of sound reasonable. There are some unreasonable things about God but I anticipate understanding reason at some point.....I hope so, anyway! :D

Timmy

01-14-2010 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 865450)

So, I'm not fired? (Even before I'm hired?) :toofunny

Timmy

01-14-2010 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ev. Duane Williams (Post 865435)

How can you tell that he was wrong? Even the scripture you quoted has a threat of perishing "likewise", if "ye" didn't repent.