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Re: If Jesus Returns Kill Him Again

Und keiner eier?

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1200509)

Please stop referring to him as BB. Thanks.

Hmm, it's what people call me online; until recently, even in real life?
What?

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Originally Posted by bbyrd009 (Post 1200532)

Um...:lol
How do you know?
You aren't qualified to judge this,
and in fact are lying, if only to yourself. Sorry.
Get a witness. One will do. I will gather my witnesses.
Another ridic postulate, tho; what is the point?

It happened, is happening; I only meant
to bring it to your attention. Surely you've
seen others, or been in the position yourself,
of stopping what you were saying, or correcting it,
in observance of this Law?

You're being obtuse now, T,
which is hard to deal with, since you have been allowed to
see what you have seen. God intends that this evil be made good.
In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
Ha, I can only get more non-sequitur from here, I guess...peace.

What are you talking about?! You said what would happen. It didn't happen. You say it did. And I'm being obtuse?

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And if I'm not qualified to determine whether something has happened or not, right before my very eyes, what make you qualified to do so? You weren't here.

And now you expect me to find witnesses?!

Whatever.

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1200493)

You are sometimes very clear. ;) What might I have misunderstood in what you said the other day? Namely:

-I'm going to dew you a most non-sequitur
favor; since you prolly might get it,
and reveal to you that starting now,
everything you speak aloud, in earnest,
is going to come true for you.

I spoke aloud, in earnest. It did not come true. Am I being clear enough?

Yes, well, we have just been discussing that?
My guess is that we poorly understand "in earnest,"
and the clue is when we have "hope" rather than
"confident expectation..." I have had both, maybe
you have, too? Surely many witnesses here have...

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1200493)

So you were blessed with snow boots. And my parents were cursed with the death of their son.

Nice.

Well, apples and oranges? I mean,
it can't be pleasant to face at first, or I guess ever;
most people never do, I guess? I think--in a little aside
here--that my self-esteem being crushed early
combined with the way I affect people in person
(let's just say that I've sold ice to an Eskimo, k?)
combined to make this process mostly painless
for me; and unfortunately blind to others'
unwillingness to go there? Irrelevant tho, I guess;
the color of the paint on that (your) wall is plain
for many to see, surely, just as mine is.
There are no secrets. You could go sit
on a park bench, and get just as accurate an
assessment from the bum there, prolly.

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1200493)

Exactly. I assert that there is no way to distinguish some fakes from what are claimed to be real. Tongues or words from the Lord, e.g. It's not just hard: it's impossible. An amazing prediction? Nope, sorry. Think of it this way: how amazing is amazing enough to prove it came from God? If I predict the sun will shine today, that's pretty low on the amazing scale. But what if I predict (and claim God told me) that Obama will win in a landslide? That doesn't seem likely to happen, so if it does, does that prove God told me this would happen? Not quite!

Ok, well, no disagreement here; but I note that we're suddenly talking miracles again--those things that are for lost people. I don't like to equate my boots to these.

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1200493)

Look at Aaron's rod, and Egypt's magicians. The first trick, Aaron's rod turning into a snake, wasn't amazing enough, it would seem (even though God predicted that it would be -- but that's another story). Even the second trick, a bunch of rods turning into snakes, wasn't God's doing, apparently. Amazing, yes. God, no. But finally we get to the most impressive feat of all: Aaron's snake gobbles up the Egyptians' snakes. Ah, yes, that had to be God.

But you still don't get it. Of course.

What I find amazing in this story, and many others in a Scripture that many would call contrived, invented, errant, is just what you highlighted--that , on first read, "that's another story" would seem to have no place in such a Work? What person would include such initially unintelligible stuff, that apparently discounts the God they wish to promote? I have way better examples.

These exist so that ones premises may be revealed, T.
It is all you look for in a person being introduced to you,
or in your children; their premises. Their 'heart.'
Nothing else matters in a person,
for all practical purposes, and
ones premises cannot be hidden,
except from oneself.

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1200493)

Please explain this.

Perhaps it would be better for someone else to?
Or, is there any chance you could get your
wife, or best friend, here? But really, how can
this be obscured to you? You have kids; you
just aren't extrapolating from experience,
or something.

I mean, c'mon--we've all had the experience of
hearing someone who's, say, out-of-sorts?
In public, at a bus stop, or something?
"I can never get a break" or whatever,
"waa, waa, waa," and manifesting
just that?

There is no puzzle here;
the obvious other extreme is
walking on water. All you gotta
do is know. To know, you need
hearing. Spiritual hearing, which
is easily...negated? Annulled.

How many weeks did the
longest 'faster' go, in praying
for your brother, I wonder?

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1200536)

Well, don't you see that I would not be qualified in your position, either? We only hide our premises from ourselves. A child that you are familiar with would do fine as a witness; prolly the best one, absent 'coaching.'

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Originally Posted by bbyrd009 (Post 1200540)

. . .
How many weeks did the
longest 'faster' go, in praying
for your brother, I wonder?

Ah. You have hit the nail on the head. That must be it! The longest faster didn't fast quiiiiiite long enough.

:banghead

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Originally Posted by bbyrd009 (Post 1200541)

So, you want me to bring a child over to my house, to hear me speak to my dog? And decide if I was earnest? And watch the dog? For how long? Till the wound is healed up, or she licks it, whichever comes first?

:banghead

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Originally Posted by bbyrd009 (Post 1200533)

Und keiner eier?
Hmm, it's what people call me online; until recently, even in real life?
What?

It reminds me of Craigslist.

What to your dog? Guess I missed something.

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No, you didn't miss anything,
Ts dog does not need a witness.
I asked for one, a witness to Ts
word, for us, me, here (rhetorically),
but T wishes to read otherwise,
ignoring or disbelieving that anyone
can hear where another is coming from,
and more accurately assess their premises
than they can themselves; almost always.
Unless I'm wrong, and I really did get unclear up there?

But I doubt it--it's a Biblical principle,
works for everyone. Your mouth
gives you away, no matter how
you might try to overcome it.
You will speak what is in
'your heart,' and not what is
on your mind; and not even
hear yourself, usually. But
broadcast to everyone else,
even a kid.

Can I get a witness?