Originally Posted by KWSS1976 (Post 714113)

How many of you think this man will not make it to heaven remember he has the holyghost.....

Originally Posted by KWSS1976 (Post 714113)

How many of you think this man will not make it to heaven remember he has the holyghost.....

Originally Posted by JEdwards (Post 714092)

I never confessed to any sin. I just said that I was struggling.

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 714111)

You mean we all struggle with our..."sin"? :lol

Am I the only one who finds it amusing that we can't say the "s" word in relation to ourselves, but we're very quick to apply it to others? Just an observation that I found amusing.

We struggle with "stuff", "words mispoken", even "actions unbecoming". C'mon. It's good 'ol fashioned SIN. S-I-N. Sin.

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 714117)

There is an important distiction to be made here.


Those who live a lifestyle of sin are not the same as a person who is striving thier best to live above the sin nature that is in them.


We all have a sin nature. That will present itself very differently from one person to another.

A person who struggles with homosexualiity cannot be seen as an active homosexual.

you can be a saved Apostolic living an over coming life, and battle with temptation related to homosexuality.... so long as you are battling....

(I use the word 'you' to mean anyone not to single out any person)

Saved folk struggle (all of us struggle with something)
Lost folk embrace sin and make it a part of their lifestyle.

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 714117)

There is an important distiction to be made here.


Those who live a lifestyle of sin are not the same as a person who is striving thier best to live above the sin nature that is in them.


We all have a sin nature. That will present itself very differently from one person to another.

A person who struggles with homosexualiity cannot be seen as an active homosexual.

you can be a saved Apostolic living an over coming life, and battle with temptation related to homosexuality.... so long as you are battling....

(I use the word 'you' to mean anyone not to single out any person)

Saved folk struggle (all of us struggle with something)
Lost folk embrace sin and make it a part of their lifestyle.

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 714121)

Amen!

And just in case someone reading or will read this has been struggling and has just given up...take a deep breath and get back up. God loves ya and so do we.

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 714096)

If someone receives the revelation of who Jesus is, is water baptized in the name of Jesus, and is filled with the Holy Ghost...THEY ARE APOSTOLIC. Now, they may struggle with sin, they might even be backslidden and in sin...but they are still Apostolic. You don't cease being Apostolic while struggling with sin or even after you do sin. Even if you completely backslide, you're still Apostolic...albeit a BACKSLIDDEN APOSTOLIC.

So yes, I contend that there are Gay Apostolics. If God loved them enough to forgive their sin and give them the Holy Ghost, I'm man enough to acknowledge them as part of the body. And if they fall, they are fallen brothers and/or sisters.

I don't know why we're going around in circles trying to qualify who's "worthy" of wearing the label "Apostolic" like it's some kind of honorary title earned by our own merits or something.

Now, I don't condone sin. But I will be friends with, pray with, and encourage gay Christians and even *gasp* gay people. But when the rubber meets the road I let them know, I believe it's a sin. They need to take it to God and pray for strength to overcome just like I do my sins.

I just felt like I had to speak up here.

God bless.