Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam (Post 877109)

Data is data and is generated on secular sites. It is public information and you are quite free to research your own. Of course and as usual you bring nothing, know nothing, and have nothing of value to share except for your "doubts". Doubts dont change data.

SO: How many christians executed for any reason in saudi arabia in 2009? none. How many killed randomly right back in the good ole US of A? thousands. Does motive matter? Is not the victim just as dead? The poster claimed "name a place that is dangerous to live...." and the places are neatly listed in order of their "dangerousness". In developed countries Saudi and Qatar are dead last. They happen to be (2) of the most conservative muslim countries out there. The numbers do not support the "dangerousness" claim.

No matter how many "muslims" sell liquor in their stores or turn poppy seed into goodies the liquor still tends to find its way down the gullets and the dope up the noses of "christian" countries. Which means - until your own backyard is cleaned up and YOUR neighborhoods are down at #62 then it would probably be a good idea to set up a mirror and determine what changes need to be made to make the image that mirror look better before publicly puking this smelly nonsense.

Summary: What you think or feel actually has no bearing on factual data. When one's beliefs fall outside the realm of factual information then these beliefs are known as delusions. LOL....

Originally Posted by Thomas Trini (Post 881678)

Curious? Why you're selective of some data from such infidels as myself, but reject others. And VOM is not a paid site.

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam (Post 881787)

As I said, data is published and is readily available from secular sites, for free. These secular sites merely publish various statistics from around the world and they are not sorted into, spun into, or formulated into political or religious agendas. They also do not profit, as your VOM site does, by selling stories of suffering. You offered the site. I checked it. It is not worth even $5 to me to buy their booklet, prayer map, or "brief description of countries".

On the other hand, the poster, who is noticably absent, proposed a relationship between "dangerousness" and Islam.

Direct quote: Name a place where it is dangerous to live, and islam is there.

Places to live were listed in order of published "dangerousness". Since neither you nor the poster bothered to list them I took the time to research them and listed them for you. Now, feel free to add something, elaborate, or explain the posted link. Or just admit you don't have anything valuable to offer that is good about your faith and you feel that there is more value in bashing the faith of others. Choose. Either way, as stated earlier, there is the data, it is neither political nor religious, and the sources are published and readily available on google or your search engine of choice.

And VOM is not a paid site.

From VOM website:

VOM's Persecuted Church Global Report 2010

Believers in hostile and restricted nations never fail to ask us to pray for them. But how do we pray? What are their needs? Use this booklet and prayer map as a window into their world. Each entry includes a brief description of a country where Christians suffer for their faith. Also included are photos and testimonies of persecuted believers. The global report also comes with a fold-out prayer map for the wall. This is an excellent resource for learning about persecution around the world. Join our brothers and sisters by interceding for them today.


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Originally Posted by Thomas Trini (Post 881949)

What I meant was, why do you accept the words/sources/data of infidels who are living in the country which is considered to be "The Great Satan (America)" on some occasions, but not others (e.g. VOM, Christian sources)? As to the booklet, I was merely referring to the scores of instances of persecution under Islamic regimes which can be seen on the website for free?

Originally Posted by Jones (Post 913377)

i have to say why not this is the question not be asked thanks

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