Originally Posted by tbpew (Post 694219)

newguy,
it does not matter what THEY would do...what matters is what YOU do?

You do not need to 'get' what other people do.
You need to be led by the spirit in your study and consideration of the scripture. What instruction (light) does it bring to your understanding concerning our individual roles and personal responsibilities within the community of the called out ones?

There are so many people who greatly prefer having a human king, a professional bible interpreter and advisor, a full-time, paid go-between and spirit guide, so that they can continue to give their full attention/focus to making money, playing games, waxing cars, dining; free to travel and critique if somebody else is doing right or not doing right.

You and I and everyone else who has received this new birth will have to determine (with our spiritual-mindedness) if the scripture expects us to be subjects of RULERS within God's own body, within God's own Kingdom....or not. And if not, then what is expected of our shared experience when our lives have occassion to experience those who have traveled longer and further on this journey then we have?

So Newguy, what do you think and live for yourself...putting aside for this discussion what anybody else does or does not do?

Originally Posted by New Guy (Post 694365)

What will I do? I will submit my life to the King of Kings. He is the only one that gave himself for me. I will only fear him and not man. I respect man but not a ruler.

Originally Posted by Mr. Steinway (Post 694505)

I can't help but think that pastors in your life haven't been leaders! Leaders don't demand that you follow them....you just do!