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mfblume 01-14-2010 02:30 PM

Re: This Is Why Non-Christians Hate Us
 
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John Atkinson 01-14-2010 02:30 PM

Re: This Is Why Non-Christians Hate Us
 
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Originally Posted by ManOfWord (Post 865540)
Struggle all you want. However, the conclusion that God's word is fallible is unacceptable on this forum. It is who we are, it is what we believe, it is a foundation we firmly stand upon. Personally, there are a plethora of things I don't understand, but I don't resort to errancy to explain them. There used to be a LOT more that I didn't understand, but now I do w/o having to resort to errancy. Continued study and trust in God answers most questions. The questions I don't have answered, I have chosen to not let them affect my walk. Like Job, "Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him." :D

Good answer

MissBrattified 01-14-2010 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord (Post 865540)
Struggle all you want. However, the conclusion that God's word is fallible is unacceptable on this forum. It is who we are, it is what we believe, it is a foundation we firmly stand upon. Personally, there are a plethora of things I don't understand, but I don't resort to errancy to explain them. There used to be a LOT more that I didn't understand, but now I do w/o having to resort to errancy. Continued study and trust in God answers most questions. The questions I don't have answered, I have chosen to not let them affect my walk. Like Job, "Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him." :D

Good post. There are other forums where people can debate with unbelievers about the existence of God and the infallibility of the Word. I'm glad this forum doesn't allow such fruitless and tiresome conversations to take over. :)

ManOfWord 01-14-2010 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 865543)
I still don't hardly know what to say except a very underwhelming "wow." I've heard it said, "When discussion isn't allowed, it always seems like someone has something to hide."

In my opinion, cynicism jumps through the roof when this happens. But you all get to do what you want, so........

Every place has its guidelines. Different places have different guidelines. If I'm in your house I'll either respectfully follow yours or I won't go there. Most of us don't think it unreasonable to follow the limited guidelines we have here. No matter where any of us draw the "line" there will be those who don't like it. We can accept that.

Having been in leadership for decades, there are 2 important things I have learned and try my best to practice:
1. I can be a follower even when I don't agree and I'm not in charge.
2. As a leader, no matter what I say or do, someone is not going to like it.

I can accept that and either end of the line I'm on, it makes life much more palatable and frees me to focus on making a difference instead of attempting to straighten the deck chairs on the Titanic. :D

MissBrattified 01-14-2010 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 865522)
Does the suppression of questions, conversation, and dialogue only increase and validate the cynicism?

I don't think this is intended to be a Christian Apologetics forum for unbelievers, NOW. This is essentially a fellowship forum for people who've already accepted the basics and want to converse with like-minded people. We differ a LOT even within those boundaries. :)

ManOfWord 01-14-2010 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 865560)
I don't think this is intended to be a Christian Apologetics forum for unbelievers, NOW. This is essentially a fellowship forum for people who've already accepted the basics and want to converse with like-minded people. We differ a LOT even within those boundaries. :)

True. We can't and won't attempt to be all things to all people. Comparatively, there is a huge amount of freedom here compared to other "like" forums. :D

Praxeas 01-14-2010 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 865245)
Another is his questioning of Barak Obama's Christianity. Not good. Not good at all.

Just curious but why? Is it because it looks bad to someone else somewhere?

Is it because everybody knows Barack Obama is a true Christian?

Praxeas 01-14-2010 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by missourimary (Post 865246)
And I think that is a very sad (and even sick) statement too. Ever seen a picture of Ham? Yes, I've heard the theory. They each settled in different areas and therefore they must have fathered each race. Three sons. Asian, European, and African. What about the native Americans, then? How did this one man father three races? And how is it that we are so sure of their races, over 4000 years later?

Sister that was a loaded quetion...of course we've all seen a picture of ham...but who needs a picture when you can enjoy the real thang?

http://blogs.99wmyx.com/files/2009/12/ham-1-low-res.jpg

Praxeas 01-14-2010 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by missourimary (Post 865246)
And I think that is a very sad (and even sick) statement too. Ever seen a picture of Ham? Yes, I've heard the theory. They each settled in different areas and therefore they must have fathered each race. Three sons. Asian, European, and African. What about the native Americans, then? How did this one man father three races? And how is it that we are so sure of their races, over 4000 years later?

Native Americans are Asianiatic. They came over the Bering Straight

Praxeas 01-14-2010 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 865242)
I do not perceive Pat Robertson as a true Prophet. But some who speak so strongly against him for being so evil should consider:

The 700 Club has been helping the poor in many nations for many years. Food, medical supplies, schools, you name it. His ministry has always been compassionate. He has through his ministry done far more for the poor than almost any Christian or other type relief agency organization ever.

You guys ever watch his show? Every day they get together and pray and God starts feeding them images of sick people and they start "healing" them.

It looks fake but before any bleeding heart charismatic cry out in protest, you'll notice that they always have their heads cocked to the side so you can't see one ear. I believe they wear ear pieces.

Then, one day they had a new person on, that African American (black for you non PC people) lady. She took someone's place. The guy was doing his thing and then he stopped and for a brief moment there was nothing. Then he nudged the lady and she started right up where he left off.


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