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electric.S10 02-27-2009 10:44 PM

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Here is the way I see it . Let the word of God stand for itself .
Romans 1st Chapter
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Rev.21:27
And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

"And that's all I have to say about that " Forrest Gump:thumbsup:thumbsup

Jason B 02-27-2009 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 713941)
Should we have a First Apostolic Church of practicing Adulterers? Liars? Thieves?

brother, quit being judgmental-you are tying to turn their liberty in Christ into bondage. Who knows what method God may use to add to his church-perhaps he could use a church full of (saved & sanctified) practicing adulters. First Apostolic Church of Adulters, it has a ring to it.:koolaid

berkeley 02-27-2009 11:47 PM

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I thought I had posted something in this thread. I can't seem to find it. Either it was removed or I forgot to hit the post button. Probably for the best...


Anyway. The church is stronger against this issue, and for good reason. Fornication is a sin. Within the bounds of marriage it is just sex, and no longer a sin.
Homosexuality is not natural. The body was not made for "that." And the behavior is never sanctified like natural man/woman relations is in marriage. Guess I'm just rambling.

Adios

edjen01 02-28-2009 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by commonfaith (Post 714233)
Glad to see ya whetin that sword young lady, BTW homosexuals hate God and are havin preachers prosecuted for preachin against their practice, only they want to be accepted by churchfolk. I'm not an open door's, open heart , open mind believer when it comes to that spirit, but I'll be glad to help cast that devil out of the person, know what I mean? I hate the devil and his evil works. Those that sin, rebuke before all. Aint it in there, huh?

not sure what this means. there is only one devil...not many. do you believe that homosexuality is an evil spirit? and if so....do you believe that all sin comes from an evil spirit?

how does "those that sin, rebuke before all"...fit with love will cover a multitude of sins?

OnTheFritz 02-28-2009 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by commonfaith (Post 714233)
Glad to see ya whetin that sword young lady, BTW homosexuals hate God and are havin preachers prosecuted for preachin against their practice, only they want to be accepted by churchfolk. I'm not an open door's, open heart , open mind believer when it comes to that spirit, but I'll be glad to help cast that devil out of the person, know what I mean? I hate the devil and his evil works. Those that sin, rebuke before all. Aint it in there, huh?

That's beautiful... I was touched by this post.

Praxeas 02-28-2009 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JEdwards (Post 713931)
Well I'm not sure because the Holy Ghost moves in areas where sometimes we are not willing to go ourselves. We in pentecost are quick to judge a person by labels not knowing the lives of the individuals. I'm certainly not here trying to stir the dust. I'm just trying to understand.

Ah but we Do know the lives...you told us. They are gay. That is all we need to know. If you asked about an Adulterous church, we'd have the same conclusion because of what the bible says

Praxeas 02-28-2009 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by deltaguitar (Post 713950)
Kind of makes you wonder if a person who professes to live in sin actually has the holy ghost and has been born again. Then again it makes me wonder if maybe their speaking in tongues and all that really isn't the holy ghost. I thought Acts 2:38 is how we are born again. How can a born again person willing live in sin?

2Pe 2:21 For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them.
2Pe 2:22 What the true proverb says has happened to them: "The dog returns to its own vomit, and the sow, after washing herself, returns to wallow in the mire."

Truthseeker 02-28-2009 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by edjen01 (Post 714352)
not sure what this means. there is only one devil...not many. do you believe that homosexuality is an evil spirit? and if so....do you believe that all sin comes from an evil spirit?

how does "those that sin, rebuke before all"...fit with love will cover a multitude of sins?


obviously the apostles didn't have a problem rebuking. I'd dare say we would probably have less junk in church if the bible was followed.


2 Timothy 4:2
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.


1 Timothy 5:20
Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.



Titus 1:13
This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;


Titus 2:15
These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.




Passage Ephesians 5:11:

11And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

SOUNWORTHY 02-28-2009 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 714375)
obviously the apostles didn't have a problem rebuking. I'd dare say we would probably have less junk in church if the bible was followed. .

I agree. I'm afraid we are living in a time that too many rather than seeing how near God they can walk are seeing how close to the world they can walk and survive. The fact is they can't survive. Let's call sin, SIN and quit coddling sinners.

StillStanding 02-28-2009 09:08 AM

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Our churches are filled with imperfect people. We have adulterers, child molesters, wife beaters, thieves, gays, cheaters and etc. in our congregations. Many of these are in leadership. We are all saved by the grace of God.

But....we shouldn't broadcast our imperfections to the point that God loves and accepts us as we are. I believe God wants us to at least strive to be better and become an example of how others with imperfections can overcome and live a victorious life!


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