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berkeley 04-22-2007 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rrford (Post 83861)
How has it hepled you to leave all of that?

well.. you're not asking me. lol

jshorts 04-22-2007 10:37 PM

Nope. Still attend a upc affilliated church.

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Originally Posted by rrford (Post 83856)
Ahhh, then perhaps you are one of those recently "liberated" from the UPC?


jshorts 04-22-2007 10:39 PM

I don't think he's asking me either... lol

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Originally Posted by Berkeley (Post 83863)
well.. you're not asking me. lol


rrford 04-22-2007 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jshorts (Post 83864)
Nope. Still attend a upc affilliated church.

Okay. Thanks for answering. Not wanting to pry, just wanting some perspective.

rrford 04-22-2007 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Berkeley (Post 83863)
well.. you're not asking me. lol

Would it matter? :tiphat

berkeley 04-22-2007 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rrford (Post 83870)
Would it matter? :tiphat

yeah

jshorts 04-22-2007 10:49 PM

You are okay. lol

I have selective amnesia. Comes in handy when I don't want to remember things.

Just some brief highlights. My mom and dad were first generation upc. Raised conservative. Spent a few years of childhood in a couple of independent assemblies which were disasters. When we moved from those areas, we found upc churches in the locations we moved to.

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Originally Posted by rrford (Post 83868)
Okay. Thanks for answering. Not wanting to pry, just wanting some perspective.


crakjak 04-23-2007 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson (Post 83802)
Well now I do watch some folks like Jerry Bernard and a few like that.
I'm not hardnosed but that prosperity crowd ,I can't swallow their message.
There is a fellow whose last name is Ripley ,I do enjoy his preaching for the most part ,but I can't remember his first name right now.

Is this the same Jerry Bernard at the website www.jerrybernard.com ?

berkeley 04-23-2007 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 83857)
Ahaaaa. Brother, let me let you in on something. If you don't believe all that stuff you were taught years ago you are now on the the slippery slope and in really big trouble with God, especially if any of the changes you are making have anything to do with standards (unless you are making them stricter and stricter of course). Just turn around now, before it's too late. :tiphat

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Originally Posted by rrford (Post 83861)
How has it hepled you to leave all of that?



Stepping outside of the box was a blessing and a curse.

blessing: Observing things from the outside I was able to see a lot of things. It was apparent to me that many times we as a movement tend to strain at a gnat, and deny that we have swollowed the camel. With the guidance of God, I learned that rules can change, but principles stay the same.


curses: I lost friends. This has been the lonliest and most fearful time of my young life. Life became a rollercoaster.


and now: I'm not very liberal, but I'm not the UC that I once was.


how has it helped: It has helped me gain a sense of balance. Some things are a way of life.. others are just a way of living.


Thad 04-23-2007 02:20 AM

Speaking of Rod Parsely, He is having a Big Golf Beneift at Peeble beach here in northern California to raise money for his ministry. He is inviting a lot of wealthy donors and such to attend. This place is Extremeley Exclusive!!! It's going to be held at a 5 star resort called "the Spa at peeble beach" fit only for the very wealthy & famous.

Get this!!!! It cost $6,000 per person! it incudes Dinner with Rod and Tee time LOL!

what do you think of that ?


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