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Steve Epley 03-21-2007 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CareyM (Post 47383)
Well, I hope you realize that's not at all what I'm implying! :tiphat

I certainly do not, however there those on this forum that think it is nearly impossible to be lost and even one who has closed Hell down.:tiphat

LaVonne 03-21-2007 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 47421)
I certainly do not, however there those on this forum that think it is nearly impossible to be lost and even one who has closed Hell down.:tiphat

I do understand this...there is a straight and narrow path and few there be that enter into it.

However, there are pastors who beat up their saints and make them feel like they'll never measure up, that they probably won't be saved.

Michael The Disciple 03-21-2007 12:12 PM

It means only few, who are the righteous will be saved. Most are not even aware they are commanded to be perfect and so they dont "strive" to enter in. That great multitude on the broad road will find destruction at the end of it.

LaVonne 03-21-2007 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 47605)
It means only few, who are the righteous will be saved. Most are not even aware they are commanded to be perfect and so they dont "strive" to enter in. That great multitude on the broad road will find destruction at the end of it.

So, you believe that the Bride of Christ is the "righteous" being spoken of here?

Scott Hutchinson 03-21-2007 12:44 PM

I think this verse is saying if the rightheous will have to overcome things to be saved ,where will the sinner and ungodly appear?
The word scaresly means difficulty.
In a first century setting the believers had alot of persecutions and many difficulties to overcome living under imperial Rome and her form of tyrinical govertment.

LaVonne 03-21-2007 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson (Post 47642)
I think this verse is saying if the rightheous will have to overcome things to be saved ,where will the sinner and ungodly appear?
The word scaresly means difficulty.
In a first century setting the believers had alot of persecutions and many difficulties to overcome living under imperial Rome and her form of tyrinical govertment.

Ok, but the question I keep asking that no one seems to want to answer is, is this verse refering to the Bride of Christ?

Ron 03-21-2007 02:35 PM

If the righteous scarecely be saved.
In my opinion, I don't believe in eternal security so that means your walk needs to be a daily walk. Each day one will face an opportunity to sin, to go back, to
get a bitter/wrong spirit.

These are things everyone faces, but one has to have a close, consistent walk with Jesus to be ready when should the trumpet sound or death catches us unawares, that we will be ready.

Remember in the Gospels Jesus spoke of the wise and foolish virgins?
They all had the Holy Ghost (or oil) but some just didn't have enough.

Be filled with the Spirit!

Gotta go to the doctors.

Chan 03-21-2007 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CareyM (Post 47779)
Ok, but the question I keep asking that no one seems to want to answer is, is this verse refering to the Bride of Christ?

There is no poster here named "Nobody." I answered it when I said:

I think the "righteous" in this case does refer to the Church and shows our utter dependence on God for our salvation.

LaVonne 03-21-2007 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chan (Post 47836)
There is no poster here named "Nobody." I answered it when I said:

I think the "righteous" in this case does refer to the Church and shows our utter dependence on God for our salvation.

Sorry for not recognizing your post!

Thank you for your response, although I disagree this verse is talking about the Bride of Christ. I do agree that we must depend on God solely for our salvation.

LaVonne 03-21-2007 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 47807)
If the righteous scarecely be saved.
In my opinion, I don't believe in eternal security so that means your walk needs to be a daily walk. Each day one will face an opportunity to sin, to go back, to
get a bitter/wrong spirit.

These are things everyone faces, but one has to have a close, consistent walk with Jesus to be ready when should the trumpet sound or death catches us unawares, that we will be ready.

Remember in the Gospels Jesus spoke of the wise and foolish virgins?
They all had the Holy Ghost (or oil) but some just didn't have enough.

Be filled with the Spirit!

Gotta go to the doctors.


Hmmm....I understand this verse to mean that the righteous will be judged adn therefore will "scarcely be saved" because they may or may not make it.

I don't believe that the Bride of Christ will be judged.


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