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Your folks aren't getting the REAL Holy Ghost, so you ain't having revival! :D

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I have heard something something similar to that myself. So I know exactly where you are coming from.

Amazing, how someone can repent from sin (drug use, fornication ect) receive the HG and be baptized and all the credit is given to "It's because they ain't teaching standards!"

Instead of giving credit where credit is due and HE is the one that draws men unto repentance. :thumbsup

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PK, I'm still not getting what your point is with all this.

You're looking for a hardliner to come here and tell you you're NOT having revival... so you can argue with him and tell him you ARE??

Is that it?

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The question or point was for a group to name anyone (church) who has so called non-standards on their platform as having revival.

My point is to show that someone can embrace a strong New Birth message, preach the normative experience of Acts 2:38 and have biblical growth, renewal and so called revival and not have the common understood traditional cultural standards as a plank of the doctrine of that said church.

Also I didn't post the context or exact quote as it seems that is a no-no between forums these days, so I para-phrased what was told to me.

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Revival, in the Bible anyways, is usually defined by whole nations turning around -aka, Nineveh. Another modern example may be what is happening/happened in Ethiopia. By this definition, Azusa street was a mere "church service".

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When I think of revival I think of lives being changed and people turning their hearts back to God. Multiple individual revivals bring about national revivals.

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who cares what its called....lost sheep are being found....blind eyes are being opened....people are believing the Gospel...

in much of our western OP culture the term "revival" includes people coming to Jesus. and there are some...probably on a different forum...who would say that this aint the real thing.

for a nation to turn...its people must turn...and so when PK has 25 people turn to Christ...I rejoice because that is part of the same revival that is in my church...and when someone else has 50 or 100 or 5 I rejoice also....we are all part of the same revival that will indeed turn our nation. i believe it is happening all over the place...at the same time!! how is that not revival? do we have to wait until we reach the 1 million number to call it a "revival"...or does the enitre country have to convert to call it a "revival"?

i communicate with friends of mine all the time who are experiencing this local "revival" in thier churches and ministries. when thousands all over the U.S. are coming to Christ weekly....i call that revival....and its HAPPENING NOW!!!...sorry i get a bit excited about this.

oh....and Nineveh was just a city...no contry.

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I agree completely. Was just playing around with what could be considered a real biblical definition.

I also think those who say that 20 people being baptized is NOT real revival will turn around and say that 3 women who stop wearing pants and start wearing jean skirts is.

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We've seen amazing things in people's lives!!! In the past 3 yrs, NLC has tripled in attendance. We continue to baptize in Jesus' name and have folks receive the HGB! We see lives changed from sinners to saints and some from saints to sinners! LOL

Outward standards have absolutely nothing to do with people getting saved! Wait.....let me rethink that one...........let me restate that. Outward standards do NOT draw more people to Jesus. They do NOT make ANY church more spiritual. :D

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Why are you worried what anyone else thinks? You are independent, so be independent. Preach the normative experience of Acts 2:38 and have biblical growth, and revival. If your looking to get man's reward, and even if they do you won't have much. Please God and be happy with it!