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HeavenlyOne 04-17-2007 10:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 78847)
Okay, apparently I am naive about this issue, so I'm taking a poll. Please only answer the poll if you are a licensed UPCI minister. (It's open so that can be verified, if need be.)

It has always been my understanding that standards and rules and guidelines were not heaven or hell issues, but rather preferences, protective measures, boundaries, or issues of personal consecration. I was not aware that a large majority of the UPCI ministerial constituency taught these things as heaven/hell issues or salvational issues.

I guess I've been in the dark all these years. So enlighten me.
Oops......LOL!

Didn't read the post before answering!

Whole Hearted 04-17-2007 10:31 PM
I voted number one. I teach and preach standards and that they are salvational.

Brother Price 04-17-2007 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Whole Hearted (Post 79033)
I voted number one. I teach and preach standards and that they are salvational.
Agreed. Holiness is to be in all areas of life, and without it, no man shall see the Lord.

tv1a 04-17-2007 10:36 PM
If standards are heaven or hell issues than there would be ONE uniformed standard. Ultra-cons can't even agree on sleeve length and internet and they have the audacity to tell me if I don't follow their "standards" I'll be lost? My suggestion is to lock all the preachers in one room until they come up with one uniformed list of rules.

CupCake 04-17-2007 10:39 PM
Thumper~ With the price of gas these days, I wish I own a YUGO.....:winkgrin


At one time we preach it as salvation, heaven or hell, no ifs or buts!

Steve Epley 04-17-2007 10:41 PM
Not UPC so I can't answer.

HeavenlyOne 04-17-2007 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Brother Price (Post 79036)
Agreed. Holiness is to be in all areas of life, and without it, no man shall see the Lord.
And people wonder why when someone mentions holiness, people start talking about clothing.

Bill, what are your standards that you live by that make you dress differently than other modestly dressed men in the world?

HeavenlyOne 04-17-2007 10:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CupCake (Post 79040)
Thumper~ With the price of gas these days, I wish I own a YUGO.....:winkgrin



At one time we preach it as salvation, heaven or hell, no ifs or buts!
You believe standards are heaven or hell issues? Aren't you ultra lib?

CupCake 04-17-2007 10:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 79032)
Oops......LOL!

Didn't read the post before answering!

Nor I...:aaa

tv1a 04-17-2007 10:46 PM
My guess is he wears his pants outside his speedos.

Quote:
Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 79042)
And people wonder why when someone mentions holiness, people start talking about clothing.

Bill, what are your standards that you live by that make you dress differently than other modestly dressed men in the world?


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