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Originally Posted by Eliseus (Post 81227)

Folks, if the trucking industry shut down, in 3 days there would be no food available in the US, except those stored up by "survivalist" types.

If there were a massive crop failure or drought in the US, same thing.

I was reading just a few days ago, that the world food supply is actually too low to accomodate the growing demand. China has now become a major grain importer.

When your food is imported, it means you aren't making enough of your own.

We have wars for oil resources presently, soon there may be wars for food resources.

Which is strange, because there is no need for massive famine in this day. Food can be grown easily even independently of the weather due to greenhouse technologies.

When you factor in the pervading and spreading propagation of "genetically modified" food crop seeds, we have a MASSIVE disaster in the making... which is very convenient for those who wish to push for statist globalism.

From one "threat" to the next, the "solution" is ALWAYS more government regulation, control, and more dependence upon government "assistance". Funny how that works...

Get a manual grain miller, stock up on natural rice, wheat, corn, oats, beans, plant a garden, grow food crops, can can can all you can, learn to hunt and prepare game...

Otherwise, you may starve to death.

We survived the Great Depression and the "dustbowl" of the 30s... but only because most folks already lived the "survivalist lifestyle" as a matter of course. Strange how normal living is now considered "survivalist living"...

I'm afraid most of us don't know how to live survivalist, to be honest.

I probably know more than some, but I have never been there done that per se.

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Originally Posted by Esther (Post 81221)

You know I was thinking that they had.

Was it what they called the "Dust bowl" time or are you thinking of the depression with the soup lines?

Not sure if that was a famine or just no money.

ask anyone from Oklahoma if it was a famine.

well, because history repeats itself, let me say that America will eventually fall. there will eventually natural disasters that cause massive famine. There will be attacks in and on America where many die and many more die from not being prepared to deal with the fall out.

That does not mean that I buy what so many are selling these days. this "end of America" or "Gods judgement" or "Apoclytic preaching" has been with us since Peter and Paul walked the earth.

one of these days someone will say "the end is here" and the end will show up. If you say "it is one oclock" every five minutes, eventually you will be correct.

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Originally Posted by Eliseus (Post 81227)

Folks, if the trucking industry shut down, in 3 days there would be no food available in the US, except those stored up by "survivalist" types.

If there were a massive crop failure or drought in the US, same thing.

I was reading just a few days ago, that the world food supply is actually too low to accomodate the growing demand. China has now become a major grain importer.

When your food is imported, it means you aren't making enough of your own.

We have wars for oil resources presently, soon there may be wars for food resources.

Which is strange, because there is no need for massive famine in this day. Food can be grown easily even independently of the weather due to greenhouse technologies.

When you factor in the pervading and spreading propagation of "genetically modified" food crop seeds, we have a MASSIVE disaster in the making... which is very convenient for those who wish to push for statist globalism.

From one "threat" to the next, the "solution" is ALWAYS more government regulation, control, and more dependence upon government "assistance". Funny how that works...

Get a manual grain miller, stock up on natural rice, wheat, corn, oats, beans, plant a garden, grow food crops, can can can all you can, learn to hunt and prepare game...

Otherwise, you may starve to death.

We survived the Great Depression and the "dustbowl" of the 30s... but only because most folks already lived the "survivalist lifestyle" as a matter of course. Strange how normal living is now considered "survivalist living"...

Good advice at any time.:tiphat

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 81254)

Good advice at any time.:tiphat

The mormons are very big on stockpiling food. so if worst comes to worst, have a good mormon buddy...

I work with a mormon guy and he is in the group that I hang around with. we pick on him that he has potatoes under his bed.

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 81240)

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That does not mean that I buy what so many are selling these days. this "end of America" or "Gods judgement" or "Apoclytic preaching" has been with us since Peter and Paul walked the earth.

So, you don't believe God has any thing to do with the destinies of nations? Funny, the Bible says otherwise.

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one of these days someone will say "the end is here" and the end will show up. If you say "it is one oclock" every five minutes, eventually you will be correct.

Silly comparison. While many do preach doom and gloom and are off their rocker, the fact is danger DOES exist and lack of preparation is the number one cause of victimization.

Ferd, I think I misunderstood what you meant about apocalyptic preaching. I think the Second Coming may be pretty close. But I also think I might be wrong about that. Indications are that the "second coming any time now" crowd have an agenda that actually harms the nation, ergo I suspect much of their preaching....

However, God IS judging America, that is my firm belief.

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 81294)

:toofunny

Seriously Ferd.
If Katrina and other problems have taught us it is to have at the very least a three day stockpile of food and supplies.

It is wisdom.

Which reminds me....

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Originally Posted by Eliseus (Post 81227)

I was young and now I'm old and I have never seen the righteous forsaken nor his seed begging bread.

God is on the throne. I trust Him and the promises in His word. I'll let you know if the Spirit speaks to me to buy camping gear, because I'm not a camper.

Although after this northeaster that just passed through and took out power for a day and the internet for 2 days, I might get a Coleman lantern. Reading by candlelight is impossible.

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Originally Posted by Eliseus (Post 81296)

Says who? Great Britain has been around for what, 800-900 years? Russia is about 900 years and still going. What about Switzerland? Let's see, they've been around as a nation since the 15th century (that would be about 500 years?)

So, you don't believe God has any thing to do with the destinies of nations? Funny, the Bible says otherwise.

Silly comparison. While many do preach doom and gloom and are off their rocker, the fact is danger DOES exist and lack of preparation is the number one cause of victimization.

Jesus said:

Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?
And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?
Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
(For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.Matthew 6:19-34