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Ferd 10-19-2010 10:42 AM

Re: Decisive Vote for Obamacare: Career Ender
 
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Originally Posted by scotty (Post 974552)
I got this letter too, that is really going to hurt us.



I have a couple of family members whose company's are dropping their health insurances all together, now those people will have to find their own at a much higher price.

contact your member of congress! They can get a bill that will put OTC back in for your HSA

Ferd 10-19-2010 10:45 AM

Re: Decisive Vote for Obamacare: Career Ender
 
The entire bill cannot be outright overturned. Certainly not as long as Bammer is president.

however, as long as republicans are in congress, they can "defund" large portions of the bill and also create new legislations that change small parts of the law. "chipping away" as it were.

Once there is a Republican President and Congress is controled by Republicans, so long as the people are still at 70% against it, it could theoretically be reversed entirely. However, that would require a majority in the house, a willing president and either 60 votes in the Senate, or a majority in the senate and a very angery electoriate willing to scare the bejeebers out of the democrats in the senate.

it would be very very difficulty. the more likely option is a series of bills that make small changes to the law thus taking the "bite" out of it. As well as working the funding angle to prevent required new offices from having the funds necessary to be set up.

Sam 10-19-2010 12:11 PM

Re: Decisive Vote for Obamacare: Career Ender
 
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Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 974563)
The goal is to put insurance companies out of business so Big Brother can step in and provide "free" healthcare for all, while decimating our economy and eroding our liberties.

Someone said something like, "If you think your healthcare is expensive now, wait until you get your 'free' healthcare from the government."

Sam 10-19-2010 12:41 PM

Re: Decisive Vote for Obamacare: Career Ender
 
I retired from General Electric on March 1, 1998 after 32 years of service.
I was 60 years old and started drawing a pension which will remain at the same amount for the rest of my life (which means it has less purchasing power each year as costs go up). I also received a supplement from GE until I turned 62 and could go on Social Security.

I started drawing Social Security at age 62. My idea was to draw as much as I can and for as long as I can rather than wait until 65 and draw a little more each month. My wife is 3 1/2 years younger than I and she started drawing Social Security at age 62.

So, each month we get a pension payment from GE deposited to our checking account on the first business day of the month and we each receive a payment from Social Security deposited to our checking account on the second Wednesday of each month. The amount she receives from Social Security is about half of what I receive.

For medical insurance we have Medicare Part A and Part B plus a supplemental policy through GE with United Health Care. GE has some kind of agreement with United Health Care and pays part of the cost plus GE provides us with a prescription drug plan which helps pay for prescriptions. We have to take a generic if it is available. Our prescriptions cost us $30 for a 90 day supply by mail or if the generic is less we pay what that is. Two blood pressure medications that I take are generics so they cost me $8 and $11 for a 90 day supply. 3 other prescriptions I get by mail cost me $30 because they are name brands.

Our cost for this medical coverage is $219 per month for the United Health Care Supplement and $192.90 for our two Medicare policies. This comes to $411.90 per month or $4942.80 per year which is about 10 percent of our net income.

I have not heard what the costs for Medicare or for our Medicare Supplement through GE will cost us beginning January 1.

I am 72 (will be 73 in December) and my wife is 69 years old. I think about getting some kind of job to supplement our income but my health is not very good. I had quadruple bypass surgery in 1995 and three of those bypasses are still operating pretty good. I have 68 percent blockage in my right carotid artery which is just below the level where surgery is recommended so that gets checked regularly. I had cancer surgery in 2006 and at last check (about a year ago) am still cancer free. I have ILD (Interstitial Lung Disease) which is an incurable condition of the lungs where areas are turning fibroid (dying) so I have shortness of breath (I'm not on supplemental oxygen) and my legs will not allow me to walk very far or stand on them for too long so employment opportunities are some what limited. My wife had surgery for ovarian cancer about 18 months ago and continues to test cancer free.

I do thank God for Medicare parts A and B and for a medicare supplement through GE but we don't really know what will happen with either of those after December of this year.

sandie 10-20-2010 07:05 PM

Re: Decisive Vote for Obamacare: Career Ender
 
I don't understand how Obama care could be viewed as a "good thing" by any rational thinker.
Trusting in the Lord has taken on an even deeper meaning since Obama took office.

Esther 10-21-2010 11:50 PM

Re: Decisive Vote for Obamacare: Career Ender
 
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Originally Posted by sandie (Post 975481)
I don't understand how Obama care could be viewed as a "good thing" by any rational thinker.
Trusting in the Lord has taken on an even deeper meaning since Obama took office.

:thumbsup

commonsense 10-22-2010 01:08 AM

Re: Decisive Vote for Obamacare: Career Ender
 
At work, we will find out our new health ins rates next week.

The only leak so far is that non-smokers will get $50 off their monthly premium.

deacon blues 10-26-2010 09:14 AM

Re: Decisive Vote for Obamacare: Career Ender
 
All you have to do is look at France and Britain and the major cuts to entitlements they're having to make before they go bankrupt. People have become so accustomed to getting "freebies" and socialized everything that they riot in the streets when some of their entitlements are cut.

France requires by law 4 weeks of paid vacation for every worker plus 22 days of recognized holidays. Add to that a 35 hour work week and the French are granted about 8 weeks of vacation time! They get to retire at age 60 and they are rioting because they might have to work an extra two years to hep their ailing economy! This is what socialism produces: no incentive to work, to work hard, to be productive or to be responsible.

We better get it right this time around or we are in big trouble!

Sam 10-26-2010 10:07 AM

Re: Decisive Vote for Obamacare: Career Ender
 
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Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 978302)
All you have to do is look at France and Britain and the major cuts to entitlements they're having to make before they go bankrupt. People have become so accustomed to getting "freebies" and socialized everything that they riot in the streets when some of their entitlements are cut.

France requires by law 4 weeks of paid vacation for every worker plus 22 days of recognized holidays. Add to that a 35 hour work week and the French are granted about 8 weeks of vacation time! They get to retire at age 60 and they are rioting because they might have to work an extra two years to hep their ailing economy! This is what socialism produces: no incentive to work, to work hard, to be productive or to be responsible.

We better get it right this time around or we are in big trouble!

And this European model of socialism is the goal toward which our President is trying to take us.

sandie 10-26-2010 11:44 AM

Re: Decisive Vote for Obamacare: Career Ender
 
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Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 978302)
All you have to do is look at France and Britain and the major cuts to entitlements they're having to make before they go bankrupt. People have become so accustomed to getting "freebies" and socialized everything that they riot in the streets when some of their entitlements are cut.

France requires by law 4 weeks of paid vacation for every worker plus 22 days of recognized holidays. Add to that a 35 hour work week and the French are granted about 8 weeks of vacation time! They get to retire at age 60 and they are rioting because they might have to work an extra two years to hep their ailing economy! This is what socialism produces: no incentive to work, to work hard, to be productive or to be responsible.

We better get it right this time around or we are in big trouble!

I'd sure like to know where my "freebies" are....they take from my paycheck (when I was getting one) and give it to who?


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