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revrandy 05-25-2007 02:24 PM

Why is it when it comes to prosperity liberal's always quote the Old testament but when it comes to standards... they critisize Conservatives for the same???

Jack Shephard 05-25-2007 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rkentsmith (Post 127573)
Nashville and TBN want all the contributers to sacrifice for the sake of prosperity....

Not much cross bearing mentioned by the media type minitries.....

That is ....

They want you to carry their cross......

I see no problem in asking people if they want to partner "my" ministry then here is how. I think that there is a thin line here though. Giving the ability to become a partner is ok, but promising blessings.....gotta be careful. There are people that I know has sewn seed into ministries and God bless them will a big cash flow. But I know people that give and give and barely make ends meet. God will put money into peoples hands to help the kingdom. If the people choose not to sew it back...well then there is the problem.

SoCalUltraConservative 05-25-2007 02:26 PM

The lake of fire awaits that deceitful poison spitting tongue, be assured.

revrandy 05-25-2007 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Berkeley (Post 127558)
the truth is, he started this thread after I sent him a PM explaining my next [ad]venture. I was offered a 1hour/weekly spot on a christian network to teach or whatever... and the pay is $$$$$$ great!!!! Bye Bye poverty!! Money cometh!!! cha ching!!! $$$$$

Never got a pm from you ever.. bro..

Check your facts.. before you blow your nose...

Money Cometh... Sounds like "Let's all praise Money" ..

revrandy 05-25-2007 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 127610)
Why is it when it comes to prosperity liberal's always quote the Old testament but when it comes to standards... they critisize Conservatives for the same???

Bump for whoever***

Consapostolic1 05-25-2007 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 127610)
Why is it when it comes to prosperity liberal's always quote the Old testament but when it comes to standards... they critisize Conservatives for the same???

:lol

SDG 05-25-2007 02:34 PM

Love of money is the root of all evil ... it happens in the Apostolic church ... out of it ... with dyed in the wool Apostolics ... and ex-Apostolics ...

We know the stories of money-hungry self-professed Christians on both sides ....

I cant swallow prosperity preaching at all ... but in happens in Apostolic churches also ... I've heard it w/ my own ears .....

As for the charge against singers and musicians that leave .... to cash in ... yes there are some that have seeing a broader cash revenue ... but again ... I've seen Apostolics that will hawk their CD's at a prayer service ....

One of the problems that the Apostolic church has had is that some pastors do not:

1. Understand the exorbitant costs it takes to produce a quality CD recording ... it's in the thousands of dollars ....

They then expect this singer or musician to sell their CD' to a small insular market. Some shun those that minister at "non-apostolic" venues ....

2. Then you have pastors who literally don't even see it as a ministry on the par w/ preaching or teaching and so it's marginalized ..... Many pastors till this day think it's crazy to have salaried musicians .... and those that do are often grossly underpaid based on the hours they put in ....

Things we need to consider ...

revrandy 05-25-2007 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 127625)
Love of money is the root of all evil ... it happens in the Apostolic church ... out of it ... with dyed in the wool Apostolics ... and ex-Apostolics ...

We know the stories of money-hungry self-professed Christians on both sides ....

I cant swallow prosperity preaching at all ... but in happens in Apostolic churches also ... I've heard it w/ my own ears .....

As for the charge against singers and musicians that leave .... to cash in ... yes there are some that have seeing a broader cash revenue ... but again ... I've seen Apostolics that will hawk their CD's at a prayer service ....

One of the problems that the Apostolic church has had is that some pastors do not:

1. Understand the exorbitant costs it takes to produce a quality CD recording ... it's in the thousands of dollars ....

They then expect this singer or musician to sell their CD' to a small insular market. Some shun those that minister at "non-apostolic" venues ....

Then you have pastors who literally don't even see it as a ministry on the par w/ preaching or teaching and so it's marginalized ..... Many pastors till this day think it's crazy to have salaried musicians .... and those that do are often grossly underpaid based on the hours they put in ....

Things we need to consider ...

This isn't about hawking for money or having money but Ex-Apostolics raising money for themselves or some ministry to propagate False Doctrine??

SDG 05-25-2007 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 127626)
This isn't about hawking for money or having money but raising money for themselves or some ministry to propagate False Doctrine??

It's about perspective ... RevRandy ... once again .... are there blatant example of Christian charlatans ... of course .....

but we often can't understand why a preacher or singer has left our ranks and so we often chalk it up to ... "well ... they're just compromisers who after money".

CC1 05-25-2007 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rkentsmith (Post 127573)
Nashville and TBN want all the contributers to sacrifice for the sake of prosperity....

Not much cross bearing mentioned by the media type minitries.....

That is ....

They want you to carry their cross......

I am a little confused as to what you mean by "Nashville" here. Can you claify?


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