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Scott Hutchinson

10-23-2007 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 278678)

I have not been there so I can't verify that this is true, but i have read that a UPC church in Newark, Ohio insists on, "In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost."

That's the formula Kenneth Hagin recommended in a book that I read a while back.

If you were going to do that ,why not say I baptize you in the name of The Father,Son and Holy Ghost which is Jesus Christ ?

freeatlast

10-23-2007 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster (Post 278689)

Why would a formula matter to people who view baptism as nothing more than an out-dated embarrasing inconvenience?

To them it wouldn't..but we don't know that from the question.

Esther

10-23-2007 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 278674)

oneness folks don't even agree among themselves on what words to use.
Some insist on "Lord Jesus Christ," others say that if "Lord" is mentioned, it is wrong and needs to be done over. Some say the Father's name is Lord, the Son's name is Jesus' and the Holy Ghost's name is Christ so the three words become one full name.

I have never heard this before.

Timmy

10-23-2007 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 278674)

oneness folks don't even agree among themselves on what words to use.
Some insist on "Lord Jesus Christ," others say that if "Lord" is mentioned, it is wrong and needs to be done over. Some say the Father's name is Lord, the Son's name is Jesus' and the Holy Ghost's name is Christ so the three words become one full name.

:blink

You're not serious! ... Are you?

Kutless

10-23-2007 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 278728)

To them it wouldn't..but we don't know that from the question.

Absolutely correct here, but let me clarify.

Bro H. assumed correctly that this was a way to not offend or hinder anyone from being baptized. The Pastor told me that baptism is what is important so in order to insure that step the have used the formula that was mentioned in the initial post.

So according to Him not only is baptism important but essential.

I'm not agreeing with the man BTW just wanted to hear some feed-back.

PP, were you referrring to someone that you know?

Nahum

10-23-2007 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kutless (Post 278836)

There are lots of folks on AFF that view baptism that way. It's nothing more to them than an embarrassing inconvenient tradition.

Kutless

10-23-2007 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster (Post 278838)

There are lots of folks on AFF that view baptism that way. It's nothing more to them than an embarrassing inconvenient tradition.

I hear ya....but this man does not view it that way, in fact just the opposite. And his point is to make sure everyone gets baptized.

Not that you care. :saycheese

Scott Hutchinson

10-23-2007 10:21 AM

Personally if someone was baptized and it was done by a formula that said I baptize you in the name of the Father ,Son,Holy Ghost and in the name of Jesus Christ ,so something along those lines I could live with that.
I would just baptize someone in the name of Jesus Christ unto the remission of sins myself.
If a person had truly repented and had the name of Jesus Christ called over them I would say ok.

Scott Hutchinson

10-23-2007 10:23 AM

There is no virtual in H20, but it's more than just a ritual.
It's a way that faith in Christ is expressed.
If a person is not repentant ,baptism in Jesus name won't do a person any good it's not a magic formual in itself.

CC1	10-23-2007 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kutless (Post 278638)

My friend has left his UPCI church to go a different route. He says its so his wife will go to church with him. The church he goes to know baptizes like this:

"I now baptize you in the name of the Father, son and H.G. in the name of Jesus."

Any thoughts?

I think it covers the biblical instructions regarding baptism. If for some reason I ever was to attend a trinny church I would have to find one that baptizes like this or "In the name of the Father, Song, and Holy Ghost which is Jesus Christ".

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