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Thad 11-20-2007 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 306605)
Cranky Lady?? Uh, whatever you say, Thad. :coffee2


WHATeeeeever honey just don't hit me with that broom stick :bliss:hanky:tease:tease:tease:tease

Praxeas 11-20-2007 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 306581)
I am taking a class and in it we are discussing "Logical Fallacies". I thought in light of all the arguments here it might shed some light to put some of the information out here.

Don't expect an intelligent conversation on this topic from many folks here. I have run into a lot that mock you and try to insult you anytime you raise this issue.

BTW I have or had some great online resources for logical fallacies. I might post the links again later

Praxeas 11-20-2007 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 306589)
Avoid fallacies in your logic:
  • False arguments from incomplete thinking or deliberate omissions
  • Bare assertions unsupported by facts.
  • Circular reasoning where you assume the point you need to prove.
  • Oversimplification
  • Either/Or statements
  • Complex questions that cover up the real issue
  • Strawman fallacies where the writer argues against a claim that is easily refuted

In circular reasoning, not only is the point assumed, it's often used as part of the argument in support of itself...there is another name for that...

Strawmen are not merely claims easily refuted, but they are mis characterizations of what someone really believes or has said. The Trinitarians believe in three gods and the bible says one, is a good example

Praxeas 11-20-2007 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 306593)
Types of fallacies that sabotage arguments:
  • Red Herring fallacies that draw the reader away from the real issue
  • Misuses of humor that impart a mocking tone
  • Appeals to pity and emotion
  • Use of threats
  • Bandwagon mentality
  • Appeals to popular sentiment

Horse laughter #2, happens all the time here

#3 is Dans favorite :-) as well as a few others here

Bandwagon also happens a lot here

Praxeas 11-20-2007 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 306597)
Fallacies that falsify arguments
  • Appeals to ignorance
  • Broad generalizations
  • False causes that base claims on too little evidence
  • "slippery slope" fallacies that state one action will start an unstoppable chain reaction
(I find the TV advertising "chicken little" scenario to be this)

broad or sweeping generalizations...yep all the time

Slippery slope also happens a lot....especially in regards to the TV issue

Praxeas 11-20-2007 12:58 PM

this is one of my favorites. It uses Star Trek for its analogies and examples
http://www.thecaptainkirkpage.com/kirklogic.html

RevDWW 11-20-2007 01:01 PM

I wouldn't go accusing a lot of folks on AFF of trying to be logical. :nod

Is logic a pagan device? :tease

Praxeas 11-20-2007 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 306627)
I wouldn't go accusing a lot of folks on AFF of trying to be logical. :nod

Is logic a pagan device? :tease

I was accusing them of the opposite :stirpot

BTW yes it is pagan lol....pagan philosophers probably "gave" us many or set the foundation for such....what people don't realize is that they already existed, philosophers just discovered them.

God created logic. Just as scientists discover things...they didn't invent quantum physics lol....

RevDWW 11-20-2007 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 306629)
I was accusing them of the opposite :stirpot

BTW yes it is pagan lol....pagan philosophers probably "gave" us many or set the foundation for such....what people don't realize is that they already existed, philosophers just discovered them.

God created logic. Just as scientists discover things...they didn't invent quantum physics lol....

While your post was very good, my responses where tongue in cheek. I really meant logic is not used enough on AFF and yes I know that pagans did found some schools of thought when it comes to logic, but God created logic.

Praxeas 11-20-2007 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 306640)
While your post was very good, my responses where tongue in cheek. I really meant logic is not used enough on AFF and yes I know that pagans did found some schools of thought when it comes to logic, but God created logic.

:stirpot:stirpot:stirpot:stirpot:stirpot:stirpot


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