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* * * Shocking!!!!! * * *

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He is/was always making fat jokes so no cut intended!

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.

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he can make them but nobody else better !:happydance

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You know what is sickning about the guy? He didn't even believe in fasting but still knew great depth of what was going on in the spirit. I've heard some astounding things.

I can fast and pray -it's like so what!

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BC didn't fast??? come on

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Maybe the gift of prophesy wasn't given to you. Just because you fast and pray doesn't mean you have that gift.

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I have the gift of prophecy but I can't touch his knowledge of what is actually going on in the spirit at any given time.

Just like I read on another thread he knew there was going to be trouble in a service and appointed two big guys to take care of it when it stared. Turned out true. I have heard and read many things like that.

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I like these ideas. As the Pastor's secretary his appointments are ROUTINELY made during the office hours that I am there. But, let's face it, people who work need to come after hours occasionally. The camera would solve any dilemmas.

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IMO, I think this thing happens more than we know. I know personally a guy in the eastern US that was in his 40'2 married with kids and ended up having a sexual realtionship with two girl at one time and they were both under 18. We have seen over the past couple of years that many more of these stories are coming out. Some are cry wolf stories and are lies, but some are very true. I could not imagine being caught up in something like that. It is coming to a day where a pastor that steals the churches money is not a hot story anymore. I am not sure why, but it seems that our attention is attracted by these crazy stories. All I can say is that this is a sad thing for all involved. The man/pastor deserves prison everyone else invloved does not deserve the pain.

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My brother had a pastor for a short time who ended up being his ex-pastor after he (the pastor) was caught with a 16 yr old girl, whom he was in the habit of driving home after church often.

She didn't end up pregnant, but he did 4 years in prison.

I looked up his prison record not long ago and he still looks like an Apostolic preacher. Nice looking guy...now single as his wife divorced him and left with his four small children.

And this isn't the only UPC pastor whose done this.

But this can happen with anyone, pastor, Apostolic, or otherwise.

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Many years ago, I was using a dating site called the ChristianCafe.com and the thing that frustrated me was that a good 50% of the "females seeking...." were looking to ONLY marry a minister/pastor/preacher. The few I talked to were all convinced that this is what "God said He had in store for me!". I could see as plain as day that they were in love with the position and only wanted the same adoration that they saw their current pastors wife receiving.

But anyways...... Women falling in love with the position of pastor is very VERY common.

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I've heard him said more than once, "I believe in feasting and believing".

Remember when he lost about 130 lbs that time. He said at BOTT, "I've lost one whole person". :toofunny

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Rather strange. I have a lot of respect for Billy Cole, but must say I'm puzzled by this, if it is indeed true.

From what I see see, fasting is a biblical, New Testament practice. What biblical basis would one use to support the idea that we shouldn't fast today?

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BC certainly does believe in fasting. I have personally heard him preach about it.

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No, No! He didn't say others should not fast. He said he believes in feasting and believing. I guess it works for him.

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Wow!!! How did he do it with his hands??? That's as strange a Mary having a little lamb. :toofunny:toofunny:toofunny:toofunny:toofunny:toof unny:toofunny:toofunny:toofunny:toofunny:toofunny: toofunny:toofunny:toofunny:toofunny:toofunny:toofu nny:toofunny:toofunny:toofunny:toofunny:toofunny:t oofunny

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Would you behave!!! :toofunny

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This task is not possible for everyone remember!!!! :)

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I wonder what MissBrattified will have to say about that?

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What happened to the pick-up? Was that yours? Are the goats yours?

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Which one gets set loose?

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(Lev 16:8) And BL shall cast lots upon the two goats; one lot for the LORD, and the other lot for the scapegoat.

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Wait...are you saying that if a man has you for a wife he should castrate himself? Come now sister, your self esteem can't be THAT low :toofunny

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Yes the truck is mine. the goats I raised and sold at sale.

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:coffee2

About what?

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Ya right! NOT! I'm saying my self esteem is high enough that if I was married to a jerk who would try something like that, he better be willing to do the job himself because if he didn't, I could figure out how to do it nice and slow and as painfully as possible!!! He'd be begging for the butcher knife!

:boxing

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Ok.
Just so I'm understanding you...Was he saying, then, that he didn't believe in fasting, in his own personal life?

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I think that's what he was saying. I don't know that he never fasted. I'm just going by what he said.

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I am not a pervert... but this is cruel and unsual...:uhoh:bolt

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I wonder if the wife of this pastor ever cut her hair...... Just a thought. Mmmmmm....

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Here's a thought...hmmmm....JUST a thought....uh...I wonder if they had a TV in their home...hmmm....just a thought....hmmm



Pfsssh pleeeze

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I agree here. Telling mom may not solve the problem. In some cases, Mom is so caught up in the offenders religious web of lies that she would actually side with the offender against her own daughter. A girl in our neighbor hood was molested by here step-father and the Mom, sent the girl away as a trouble maker who "lied" on her hubby. She sent the girl away to live with relatives and kept the bum. No, Abbey should tell the girl to by-pass Mom, Go directly to the authorties.

Heres another point: More than likely this girl isn't the only victim. People like this more often than not spreads their "love" around to multiple victims. When the truth comes out (and it will) this girl will be devatated more by the fact that she isn't the "only special girl" in this mans sordid life. What he has done is unspeakable. But when other victims are discovered, this girl will be crushed, and the baby, should she decide to keep it, will be a constant reminder of how she was betrayed. So sad for all involved. Except the creep. Whatever happens to him will be less than he deserves.

I have heard rumors that there is a church in a certain state that has a pastor who molested several young girls over a period of time. He was tried and convicted and sent to prison for a long time (probably not long enough). But, and this is so sad.... he is still the pastor of the church. The church believing the whole thing was a lie on the "man of God", chose to keep him as pastor. Its said he makes audio taped sermons and directs the church by letter and phone calls. Some of the parents of the victims still attend there, they say, and forces these girls to listen to the voice of this slime every Sunday preaching about the love of God.

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Yikes!

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Another precaution, our church has always had two secretaries during the hours that the pastor is in the office. Just so there could never be any questions about the pastor and the secretary being alone.

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You're right, Steve. It is cruel and unusual. But what he did to that girl was also cruel. Maybe not so unusual, unfortunately. But definately cruel.

Steve, I've seen you with your girls. I know how much you love and adore them. And I feel very sure that if this man had done this to one of your girls, he might be wishing for MY punishment :)

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I grew up with MANY girls in the church who ended up Pregnant.


and Guess what Jekyll, No TVs in their homes- how did that happen????
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I was thinking his wife should take a bat to his perverted self!:club

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Why on God's green earth does a thread like this become so popular? For goodness sakes the foundation of the whole thread is based on DEAR ABBY! Believe me I know first hand that his could be a very real problem but why dwell on it!
I for one got a lot more enjoyment out of this forum a few weeks ago when there were several threads going about the goodness of God!
Do I want to bury my head in the sand and pretend the rest does not go on.....NO! If it happens on my turf I will deal with it and move on. But, why should stuff like this get press? and among so called church people. This world much was much better off before people got the notion that EVERYTHING has to be talked about!
The Bible gives us instruction on how to deal with people in these instances and nowhere did it say to all talk about it at length on the phone or in forums.
I will admit there are even situations where a person has to sit tight and wait for God to reveal what to do...been there too. But to have everything all out in the open for everyone to discuss is a sin in itself. No one here knows the details of this situation if it did happen. Dear Abbey could have put it in there for entertainment.....she probably knows as well that stuff like this gets good press.
No wonder this forum has had a bad name at times of being like national gossip papers.

I will state one scripture reference....if you don't know what it says go look it up, it would do you good to read some Bible today! Phil 4:8

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This brings up another point, can anyone explain to me why a women would stay with a man who has abused children? I have never understood this phenomenon, it boggles my mind.

I understand forgiveness, but there is a difference between forgiveness and staying with a predator.

I just don't get it.

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Sis., I understand what you are saying, but the reason that we have generation after generation of abused children is because for so long, no one would talk about this topic. The only way to fight it is to make people aware. Yes, people can become jaded or lose their trust, but if it causes them to be more protective of their children, then I feel it is worth it.

I'm not saying to name names or spread gossip, but as far as I know, no one knows who this person who wrote "Dear Abby" Is. To talk about it in the abstract is not harmful, it is making people more aware of the dangers our children face every where.

We should be vigilent with the safety of our children no matter who they are with or where they are at.

But I do understand your distress, it is an ugly, ugly topic.