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drummerboy_dave 02-05-2008 02:20 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
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Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 380202)

Something tells me they sometimes forget that they're just preachers, elevating themselves into something they're not.

LadyRev 02-05-2008 02:28 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
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Originally Posted by philjones (Post 380326)
Mark,

The forum was started for men who are preachers AND believe the full Acts 2:38, john 3:5-8 Water and Spirit doctrine of salvation to get together and fellowship on line without all of the attacks and belittling (poorly disguised as legitimate discussion) of said doctrine. There are no organizational restrictions as in WordShare.

Pastor Poster, I have seen no indication that this is a power play or a Posse run forum. It is simply some men who got tired of the Synadelfos and AFF attacks on what we hold dear.

Another good ole boys club where women dare not trod? Please tell me I'm wrong...

Rev 02-05-2008 02:28 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drummerboy_dave (Post 380370)
Something tells me they sometimes forget that they're just preachers, elevating themselves into something they're not.

Exactly the kind of post Phil was talking about.

JJ Bourn Jr 02-05-2008 02:30 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
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Originally Posted by LadyRev (Post 380381)
Another good ole boys club where women dare not trod? Please tell me I'm wrong...

I f your hubby is a preacher and joins so can the wife

rgcraig 02-05-2008 02:30 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyRev (Post 380381)
Another good ole boys club where women dare not trod? Please tell me I'm wrong...

Go sign up and see. I bet they'd welcome you.

They also are allowing minister's wives.

Tina 02-05-2008 02:32 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drummerboy_dave (Post 380370)
Something tells me they sometimes forget that they're just preachers, elevating themselves into something they're not.

Disclaimer: This is just MY opinion... and may or may not reflect the views of other members of the admin team.

When people are online posting on public forums I don't see where one person is any better than the other. I understand people wanting ministers to be respected. I do have respect for the ministry. However, this is an internet forum-- not a church. I don't feel that any group of posters should be elevated and treated differently than any of the other posters on the forum. If a person shows me respect and treats other posters with respect, I will show them the same respect. However if they post with a nasty attitude-- (and believe me, I've seen some ministers do just that) they are pretty much going to get what they dish out. That's just the nature of a public forum. If people can't deal with that... perhaps a forum isn't the best place for them.

drummerboy_dave 02-05-2008 02:36 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster (Post 380348)
Absolutely. There is some of that at times, but what is segmenting off going to accomplish?

I could never be comfortable at Daniel's place, and I doubt I would be comfortable at IAM's place either.

I refuse to submit myself to either authority.

PP, I've been a fan of yours since you joined AFF. I'm on several forums and I'm also an admin at Synadelfos. I'd like to extend to you a personal invitation to join us at SynaD. There are too many features to miss out on, that you can't get on Vbulletin.

There's no reason why we can't move about the forums freely. Anybody who thinks differently has some major power/control issues.

drummerboy_dave 02-05-2008 02:40 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
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Originally Posted by Rev (Post 380383)
Exactly the kind of post Phil was talking about.

What? The preachers don't like to be preached to by us little folk?

Nahum 02-05-2008 02:41 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drummerboy_dave (Post 380401)
PP, I've been a fan of yours since you joined AFF. I'm on several forums and I'm also an admin at Synadelfos. I'd like to extend to you a personal invitation to join us at SynaD. There are too many features to miss out on, that you can't get on Vbulletin.

There's no reason why we can't move about the forums freely. Anybody who thinks differently has some major power/control issues.

Thanks Friend, but I'm sure I would not be comfortable there.

You are very kind, however.

rgcraig 02-05-2008 02:41 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tina (Post 380393)
Disclaimer: This is just MY opinion... and may or may not reflect the views of other members of the admin team.

When people are online posting on public forums I don't see where one person is any better than the other. I understand people wanting ministers to be respected. I do have respect for the ministry. However, this is an internet forum-- not a church. I don't feel that any group of posters should be elevated and treated differently than any of the other posters on the forum. If a person shows me respect and treats other posters with respect, I will show them the same respect. However if they post with a nasty attitude-- (and believe me, I've seen some ministers do just that) they are pretty much going to get what they dish out. That's just the nature of a public forum. If people can't deal with that... perhaps a forum isn't the best place for them.

Tina, I agree with your post 100%.

Ron 02-05-2008 02:49 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 380268)
There are forums for all needs - - I like it here, so I plan on being around a little while longer.

Daniel has Sny, John A. has GNC, Renfro has justpreachers, there's room for us all.

You just go to the ones that appeal to you or you have the most common with.

What does that say about me????:uhoh

Tina 02-05-2008 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 380419)
What does that say about me????:uhoh

That you like us. :D

Ron 02-05-2008 02:51 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tina (Post 380393)
Disclaimer: This is just MY opinion... and may or may not reflect the views of other members of the admin team.

When people are online posting on public forums I don't see where one person is any better than the other. I understand people wanting ministers to be respected. I do have respect for the ministry. However, this is an internet forum-- not a church. I don't feel that any group of posters should be elevated and treated differently than any of the other posters on the forum. If a person shows me respect and treats other posters with respect, I will show them the same respect. However if they post with a nasty attitude-- (and believe me, I've seen some ministers do just that) they are pretty much going to get what they dish out. That's just the nature of a public forum. If people can't deal with that... perhaps a forum isn't the best place for them.

That speaketh with one that has wisdometh!

Are you sure you are a girlith?

Maple Leaf 02-05-2008 02:54 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by philjones (Post 380326)
Mark,

The forum was started for men who are preachers AND believe the full Acts 2:38, john 3:5-8 Water and Spirit doctrine of salvation to get together and fellowship on line without all of the attacks and belittling (poorly disguised as legitimate discussion) of said doctrine. There are no organizational restrictions as in WordShare.

Pastor Poster, I have seen no indication that this is a power play or a Posse run forum. It is simply some men who got tired of the Synadelfos and AFF attacks on what we hold dear.

Man!

Another Internet forum that I can't join.

It's too bad I can't find a way to care less. :killinme

Ron 02-05-2008 02:54 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tina (Post 380423)
That you like us. :D


You like me, you really like me!
:tissue


That or they are short on members!:happydance

Esther 02-05-2008 03:00 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 380427)
You like me, you really like me!
:tissue


That or they are short on members!:happydance

Are you saying you are a short member?:toofunny

Ron 02-05-2008 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Esther (Post 380437)
Are you saying you are a short member?:toofunny


Only short on cash, say how much was my dues again??:hmmm

drummerboy_dave 02-05-2008 03:20 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tina (Post 380393)
Disclaimer: This is just MY opinion... and may or may not reflect the views of other members of the admin team.

When people are online posting on public forums I don't see where one person is any better than the other. I understand people wanting ministers to be respected. I do have respect for the ministry. However, this is an internet forum-- not a church. I don't feel that any group of posters should be elevated and treated differently than any of the other posters on the forum. If a person shows me respect and treats other posters with respect, I will show them the same respect. However if they post with a nasty attitude-- (and believe me, I've seen some ministers do just that) they are pretty much going to get what they dish out. That's just the nature of a public forum. If people can't deal with that... perhaps a forum isn't the best place for them.

This is dead on. My post was not meant to slam preachers as was implied.

It's kind of sad to me, that some ministers have trouble with the level playing field concept. In the arena of ideas, they are no different than non-ministers. To me, a special "preachers only" forum, even if it's not their intent, reeks of exclusion and elitism. This doesn't belong in the Body of Christ.

tbpew 02-05-2008 03:37 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drummerboy_dave (Post 380475)
This is dead on. My post was not meant to slam preachers as was implied.

It's kind of sad to me, that some ministers have trouble with the level playing field concept. In the arena of ideas, they are no different than non-ministers. To me, a special "preachers only" forum, even if it's not their intent, reeks of exclusion and elitism. This doesn't belong in the Body of Christ.

Dave,
IMO, why elevate a group of individuals gathering to be conduct pertaining to the body of Christ?

An internet forum grouping is a natural realm activity that is fully a construct of the temporal realm.

I think it is more realistic, and serving of peace, when we think of a lot of this stuff as man's clubs where themes involving God are often shared. Man-clubs can have whatever inclusion or exclusion criteria the owners/operators choose.

Since the Kingdom of God is not meat or drink, but righteousness peace and joy in the Holy Ghost, the body of Christ is not established or operating as anything resembling an internet discussion forum.

rgcraig 02-05-2008 03:41 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tbpew (Post 380498)
Dave,
IMO, why elevate a group of individuals gathering to be conduct pertaining to the body of Christ?

An internet forum grouping is a natural realm activity that is fully a construct of the temporal realm.

I think it is more realistic, and serving of peace, when we think of a lot of this stuff as man's clubs where themes involving God are often shared. Man-clubs can have whatever inclusion or exclusion criteria the owners/operators choose.

Since the Kingdom of God is not meat or drink, but righteousness peace and joy in the Holy Ghost, the body of Christ is not established or operating as anything resembling an internet discussion forum.

Are you a member there?

jrLA 02-05-2008 03:45 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyRev (Post 380381)
Another good ole boys club where women dare not trod? Please tell me I'm wrong...

Yep...wrong!

jrLA 02-05-2008 03:51 PM

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Folks, honestly, much too much has been made of this. It's not about elitism or about exclusion. I have read some pretty hypocritical things written on this thread. It is sad. There is no ill intent meant by the new forum. Just a place for preachers to fellowship and be themselves and relax. Please folks, let's be Christians above all.

:happydance

MrsBOOMM 02-05-2008 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jrLA (Post 380513)
Folks, honestly, much too much has been made of this. It's not about elitism or about exclusion. I have read some pretty hypocritical things written on this thread. It is sad. There is no ill intent meant by the new forum. Just a place for preachers to fellowship and be themselves and relax. Please folks, let's be Christians above all.

:happydance

To me it is the same as a Doctor's only fourm, It is a place to go where there are people of who have had like experiences and the ability to share them without being in the company of possibly even their own saints. It is not that they have anything to hide as some would love to think but it is a place where they can let their hair down and relieve some of their stress in a healthy way!

TrmptPraise 02-05-2008 04:27 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrsBOOMM (Post 380540)
To me it is the same as a Doctor's only fourm, It is a place to go where there are people of who have had like experiences and the ability to share them without being in the company of possibly even their own saints. It is not that they have anything to hide as some would love to think but it is a place where they can let their hair down and relieve some of their stress in a healthy way!

And Lord knows..I need a place to let my hair down....:chat

drummerboy_dave 02-05-2008 04:28 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jrLA (Post 380513)
Folks, honestly, much too much has been made of this. It's not about elitism or about exclusion. I have read some pretty hypocritical things written on this thread. It is sad. There is no ill intent meant by the new forum. Just a place for preachers to fellowship and be themselves and relax. Please folks, let's be Christians above all.

:happydance

It really isn't a big deal, to me. I just find it odd, the notion that preachers can't "relax or be themselves" unless they're in a private area. But, hey, no big deal.

tbpew 02-05-2008 04:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 380501)
Are you a member there?

I am not.

Rev 02-05-2008 04:33 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrsBOOMM (Post 380540)
To me it is the same as a Doctor's only fourm, It is a place to go where there are people of who have had like experiences and the ability to share them without being in the company of possibly even their own saints. It is not that they have anything to hide as some would love to think but it is a place where they can let their hair down and relieve some of their stress in a healthy way!

Well Said!

:TulsaROCKS: :TulsaNO:

dizzyde 02-05-2008 04:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TrmptPraise (Post 380546)
And Lord knows..I need a place to let my hair down....:chat

Trying to get a mental image....:happydance :happydance

Rev 02-05-2008 04:35 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drummerboy_dave (Post 380547)
It really isn't a big deal, to me. I just find it odd, the notion that preachers can't "relax or be themselves" unless they're in a private area. But, hey, no big deal.

Preachers are never the same around saints as they are when they are around just other preachers.

:TulsaROCKS: :TulsaNO:

drummerboy_dave 02-05-2008 04:35 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tbpew (Post 380498)
Dave,
IMO, why elevate a group of individuals gathering to be conduct pertaining to the body of Christ?

An internet forum grouping is a natural realm activity that is fully a construct of the temporal realm.

I think it is more realistic, and serving of peace, when we think of a lot of this stuff as man's clubs where themes involving God are often shared. Man-clubs can have whatever inclusion or exclusion criteria the owners/operators choose.

Since the Kingdom of God is not meat or drink, but righteousness peace and joy in the Holy Ghost, the body of Christ is not established or operating as anything resembling an internet discussion forum.

Maybe because they are supposed to be leadership of the body? But, as I said a second ago, it's no big deal to me.

TrmptPraise 02-05-2008 04:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzyde (Post 380552)
Trying to get a mental image....:happydance :happydance

Disturbing isn't it?

Praxeas 02-05-2008 06:03 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
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Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 380202)

Well that solves the problem of "preacher bashing" then doesn't it? Now only Preachers will be allowed to bash other preachers and non-preachers lol

Praxeas 02-05-2008 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster (Post 380226)
Hilarious.

I think I'm gonna start a new forum too.

In the words of "Tears for Fears", Everybody wants to rule the world.


LOL

wow....I mean WOW! Did you really say that? WOW......too funny :toofunny

James Griffin 02-05-2008 06:10 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by philjones (Post 380326)
Mark,

The forum was started for men who are preachers AND believe the full Acts 2:38, john 3:5-8 Water and Spirit doctrine of salvation to get together and fellowship on line without all of the attacks and belittling (poorly disguised as legitimate discussion) of said doctrine. There are no organizational restrictions as in WordShare.

Pastor Poster, I have seen no indication that this is a power play or a Posse run forum. It is simply some men who got tired of the Synadelfos and AFF attacks on what we hold dear.

Phil, for the record.

Synadelfos is not a one man show. Yours truly is also an Admin there.

And as Renda pointed out the different forums are there for different purposes.

There are some things posted on Synadelfos which (rightfully so) would be unwelcome here. The purpose of this forum is to discuss matters from an "traditional" Apostolic slant. Anyone who cannot honor that purpose should be banned from this site.

The purpose of Synadelfos is open discussion about all topics without a preset slant by Admin. Yes even trinitarians and universalists are welcome to express their views. Anyone upset by such freedom of speech will probably feel uncomfortable there.

The justpreachers forum has an even more predefined slant than AFF. They only allow preachers of like faith. And even knowing I personally would not be allowed there I still maintain there is NOTHING wrong with that. They want to be a closed societal fellowship. That is a healthy thing for men to be able to do on occasion.

philjones 02-05-2008 07:59 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyRev (Post 380381)
Another good ole boys club where women dare not trod? Please tell me I'm wrong...

Do you believe the message as defined in my post? If so, I would say go on over and register and see what happens. I saw no gender statement for preachers and I am not aware of any particular bias against women in ministry.

philjones 02-05-2008 08:04 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maple Leaf (Post 380426)
Man!

Another Internet forum that I can't join.

It's too bad I can't find a way to care less. :killinme

Bless you my Brother... your kindness is noted. :)

philjones 02-05-2008 08:10 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drummerboy_dave (Post 380475)
This is dead on. My post was not meant to slam preachers as was implied.

It's kind of sad to me, that some ministers have trouble with the level playing field concept. In the arena of ideas, they are no different than non-ministers. To me, a special "preachers only" forum, even if it's not their intent, reeks of exclusion and elitism. This doesn't belong in the Body of Christ.

I did my best not to post this... deleted it four times...

DBD... your post is stupid! You, like one other I mentioned, probably are upset that you cannot join the girl scouts or the ladies auxillary.

Your ilk really seem to live to throw stones. If you had a drummers forum, I would not feel like you were being elitist if you didn't let Sax players join. I AIN'T NO DRUMMER! Get a life and get off your pinnacle of piety from which you love to throw stones!

Oh, and you can ban me if you like.

Once again I am reminded why I don't come here!

Stupid posts and attitudes... and yes, at this moment I have one!

Stupid Stupid Stupid!

rgcraig 02-05-2008 08:11 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by philjones (Post 380824)
I did my best not to post this... deleted it four times...

DBD... your post is stupid! You, like one other I mentioned, probably are upset that you cannot join the girl scouts or the ladies auxillary.

Your ilk really seem to live to throw stones. If you had a drummers forum, I would not feel like you were being elitist if you didn't let Sax players join. I AIN'T NO DRUMMER! Get a life and get off your pinnacle of piety from which you love to throw stones!

Oh, and you can ban me if you like.

Once again I am reminded why I don't come here!

Stupid posts and attitudes... and yes, at this moment I have one!

Stupid Stupid Stupid!

But, we miss you.

Name me one place where you go that you don't deal with attitudes -- there will be some on JP too in time.

philjones 02-05-2008 08:14 PM

Re: Does Anyone Have Info Re/the New Preachers For
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 380826)
But, we miss you.

Name me one place where you go that you don't deal with attitudes -- there will be some on JP too in time.

Thanks for the kind words. :)

Already have been.. but not in persistent attacks on "the ministry" and its elitist positions and who do they think they are.

Wearying and tiresome. That is all.

Rev 02-05-2008 08:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by philjones (Post 380831)
Thanks for the kind words. :)

Already have been.. but not in persistent attacks on "the ministry" and its elitist positions and who do they think they are.

Wearying and tiresome. That is all.

That's the reason I'm a little edgy about that real name stuff.


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