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Jackson or Sharpton ... which of these surrogates orchestrated these comments?

Is this a highly charged issue for some ... of course. See slavery and segregation ... but to assume that it will happen because a couple of knuckleheads express hyperbolic free speech ...

is either not reading in between the lines ... or presumes that blacks can't handle a loss in this election w/ dignity and class.

Bill feels his wife has been the victim of a conspiracy and has been robbed too ... and has expressed this ... a former President, no less.

It's rhetoric, CC.

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I agree with a lot of what you say here.

While I don't think Obama himself will play the race card I do believe he is presenting himself as something he is not. He wants to appear as mainstream and a "unifier" when his past as a liberal activist in Chicago proves otherwise.

You don't sit and listen to the garbage his pastor spewed for 20 years and not leave if you are "mainstream" and not a radical.

Did you hear his church last Sunday cheering on that crazy RC priest as he called Hillary a white supremicist? Is that a "mainstream" group of people for Obama to have aligned himself with for the past 20 years?

Obama hides his extreme left wing agenda behind great oratory that does inspire and catches the imagination of young people and shallow mush heads who don't look beneath the surface.

At the end of the day he not only is the most left leaning canidate since George McGovern to run for President but he is also the least experience.

It is mind blowing that either party would nominate a canidate with only two years experience in the Senate and a few years as a state legislator before that.

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that is a joke to say that obama did not interject race into this nomination process, he is the one making speeches and going to selma and claiming to be down for the struggle, yeah of course he is, my goodness, dt

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No less an intellectual giant than Rosanne Barr on her radio show called for these riots so it was not all civil rights activist has beens. LOL!!

BTW - I think you are wrong about it just being rhetoric. I full well believe that if Hillary had pulled off getting enough superdelegates to support her to have taken the nomination from Obama after he received the most elected delegates, there would have been riots at the convention.

How do you so easily dismiss the radical attitudes and perpsective shown by the Pastor Jeremiah sermonss? That church cheered those crazy statements like they were true. THOSE are the same crazy folks who would riot if denied their first black Presidential nominiee.

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You are entitled to an opinion CC ...

there have been riots at conventions before.

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Amen to that. :drama

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i just find it hard to believe that you danny, a person i think is bright could support the most liberal candidate to ever run for pres, and on top of that , a man with no practical experience running anything, dt

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DT ... most liberal? Anymore liberal than Clinton was?

Surely we became socialists in the 90's

Give me a break. Let's have a serious discussion.

He's a Senator like McCain ... hello.

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he is by there own measure in the senate most lib and has the least of experience among any of the candidates, what are you danny in denial, dt

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I haven't decided who I will vote for yet! I've been a republican for 35 years, in fact I was the VP of the Young Republicans of our county back in the day.

I'm trying to get excited about McCain, but I can't so far!

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danny you vote for who you want to, that is your privelege, but dont request a serious discussion and act like that, whatever you want from the govt, if elected i hope obama gives it to you, i think he is a disaster waiting to happen tax and foreign policy wise for this country, carry on danny i still like you, dt

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i agree pm , i feel as if he was rammed down our throats, i believe he could be a good president if he can ever make up his mind what he stands for, that is scary, dt

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I don't think many people can get excited about McCain but the alternative is disasterous for our country, our kids, and our grand kids.

I have never been one of those to whine about voting for the "lesser of evils". I have been enthusiastic about every Republican canidate except Bob Dole and now McCain.

However there is too much at stake with federal judicial appointments and the fact that the dems are going to pick up huge gains in the House and Senate this fall.

Even if McCain is a moderate Democrat vs. a liberal one that is better than the liberal one and someone is going to have to keep the huge new Democrat majority in both houses of Congress in check.

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agreed, cc1, no doubt the judges are my turner for sure, dt

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I now baptize the CHICKEN LITTLE ...

http://www.flooglebinder.com/images/chicken-little.jpg

THE SKY IS FALLING ... THE SKY IS FALLING.

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I'm just not sure if I feel entirely comfortable with the way the country has been going tax and foreign policy wise (plus many other "wises") in the last 8 years anyway. I am not a supporter of any candidate, but I tend to agree that lumping Obama with Jackson and Sharpton...two men who have not even really endorsed him over Hillary, is an example of the extremist views that are clouding the issues on both sides.

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:sing:choir:choir:choir

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Forget Jackson and Sharpton for a moment. Obama alone has enough extremist views and connections to warrant never being President of the USA.

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No .. no. Why should we ???

They're *whispers* surrogates.

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obama with his affliiations couldnt even pass a background check by some sources information, i have never said he was in with jackson and sharpton, obama is for real they arent political wise, but i dont support him, cant, he wants to raise taxes and supports abortion, those the big ones for me, dt

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My point is that I am much more interested in his views than in his "connections". Some of the connections have been tenuous and incidental at best (like with Ayers), but that has been so hyped that it seems to preempt real conversation on his views. Everytime I hear Hannity rave for 30 minutes about that instead of about Obama, it makes him seem less credible and more partisan or vindictive. I want to know about his views and how he has governed and would govern.

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Ok question for Dan and DT... or anyone else...

I asked this last night but it got passed over.

Do yall think he will take Hill as VP? And if so do you think the new accusations against Bill will hurt his race? Or do you think he will totally bypass her for that reason?

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He and Ayers are two people prominent in the Chicago political scene and have served on boards together and been at the same functions... Ayers did despicable things when Obama was in short pants (no offense dt :). No one has demonstrated any more significant relationship than that.
I just am saying that when you begin to make mountains out of mole hills, people begin to wonder if there really are as many actual mountains as you may claim. Like I said I am not a supporter of any at this point but I am tired of politics and talking heads as usual.

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A Muslim this close to the White House, and Falwell not available to pronounce it as the judgment of God that it is !!!

:reaction

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dont know, i was thinking that hillary wouldnt want the vp slot, but she is pretty power hungry, and might want to be a heart beat away from the whitehouse, seriously i just dont know, dt

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I think he will only do it if he feels it is absolutely necessary to gain her supporters. There are just too many reasons that that could be problematic for him...not the least of which is that we live in a time when many people believe the VP has been actually running the country for two terms now. The office of VP does not seem as ceremonial as it used to. It used to be viewed more as a carrot and a strategic partnership primarily to garner votes.

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AG,

Read post #9 on this thread! It looked like someone's answer was passed over. :toofunny

CB1

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Supposedly she has now stated she does want the VP????

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Considering some of the internet articles about mysterious deaths of her enemies I would think twice....

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I pray not!!!!

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Brother! Thank you! I guess its just another one of my blonde moments!!!!!!! Sorry and thanks for the response. That is too what I am afraid will happen but I pray it does not!

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amazing grace, i would be surprised if she didnt take it if offered, i read an article that says she demanded it, but who knows, i am sure a lot of the things they have said about each other will be ressurected if they run together, what fun, dt

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very interesting, lol, dt

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I think Obama only wins in Nov if Hillarious is on the ticket.

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there has been talk of that, some people even saying that they wont vote for him after vanquishing billary, what fun this will be, dt

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AMEN!!

I thought the same thing this morning when reading the articles on yahoo news.

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FOR EXAMPLE:

James McDougal - Clinton’s convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.

Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

Vince Foster - Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law Firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled suicide. He also had another 22 gunshot wound in the neck. The gunshot wound to the head was of larger caliber and found still in his hand!!

Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death, Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.

C. Victor Raiser II & Montgomery Raiser - Major players in the Clinton fund-raising organization. Died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton’s a “Dear friend and trusted advisor”.

Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people containing names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

Kathy Ferguson - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson. Died in May 1994. She was found dead in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide although there were several packed suitcases, as if she was going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co- defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the gravesite of his fiancee.

Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater. Died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor. One of Clinton’s last duties as Governor of Arkansas was to pardon Dan Lassater convicted on over a hundred drug charges.

Florence Martin - Accountant sub-contractor for the CIA related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. Died of three gunshot wounds.

Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

Paula Grober - Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one-car accident.

Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparent suicide in the middle of his investigation.

Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington D.C. apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. Was investigating Morgan Guarantee scandal.

Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash. Dr.

Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee. Died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton’s advisory council, personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.

Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.

Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Clinton in the trunk of a car left in his repair shop. Died when his car hit a utility pole.

Stanley Huggins - Suicide. Investigated Madison Guarantee. His report was never released.

Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fundraiser. Died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. Controversial case where initial report of death was due to falling asleep on railroad track. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING SIX PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES / HENRY CASE:

Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck July, 1988.

Keith McMaskle - Died of 113 stabbed wounds, November 1988.

Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

James Milan - Found decapitated. Coroner ruled death due to natural causes.

Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

Richard Winters - Was a suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. Was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:

Major William S. Barkley Jr.
Captain Scott J. Reynolds
Sgt. Brian Hanley
Sgt. Tim Sabel
Major General William Robertson
Col. William Densberger
Col. Robert Kelly
Spec. Gary Rhodes
Steve Willis
Robert Williams
Conway LeBleu
Todd McKeehan