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Jekyll 04-19-2007 01:52 PM

This is outstanding, Rrandy

nathan_slatter 04-19-2007 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 81193)
Maybe....if that is what your "Inn" is... or as someone mentioned before "Internet Pornagraphy" or "Sports" or even the "Church"

You said a mouthful with that one.

SDG 04-19-2007 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jekyll (Post 81170)
You don't want anything to provoke you, do you...God forbid...

This did nothing to provoke me ... it's transparent in it's manipulation ...

nathan_slatter 04-19-2007 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 81267)
This did nothing to provoke me ... it's transparent in it's manipulation ...

*poking at Dan trying to provoke him*:evilglee

SDG 04-19-2007 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 81171)
I am blown away.

First, by the GREAT story and the strong message! Awesome.

As a parent with a television I see the great need for vigilance and control. I appreciate the warning and the opportunity to discuss it.

Second, I am blown away by the reactions. I’m shocked that some here (Pastor Poster in particular) who cannot see the value in the message because it crosses the ideological divide. Bro, we tend to defend the same plot of ground on this esoteric philosophic battle ground but I think you’ve just attacked and ally here because of the subject and not the message.

Lastly the "typical scare tactic" comment. Sometimes reality is viciously scary. Sometimes blunt truth and a timely word shakes a person. I think this is one of those.

Just blown away. That is all I can say.

CULTIC ... nothing more ... nothing less ...

Ferd 04-19-2007 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 81276)
CULTIC ... nothing more ... nothing less ...

well there you go. that is the final word.


this was a terrible thread and it has no value to anyone. everyone turn away, there is nothing here to see.

SDG 04-19-2007 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 81280)
well there you go. that is the final word.


this was a terrible thread and it has no value to anyone. everyone turn away, there is nothing here to see.

Nothing except .... drivel ... and mind-control ...

Ferd 04-19-2007 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 81281)
Nothing except .... drivel ... and mind-control ...

hey, im just trying to drive the crowd away so they wont walk around like zombies doing RevRandy's bidding.

you know a bunch of pale faced apostolics tossing televisions in the street....that could be dangerous.

OGIA 04-19-2007 02:42 PM

As one mafia leader said, "This place would be so much better off with a few strategically planned bombings." :slaphappy

SDG 04-19-2007 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OGIA (Post 81291)
As one mafia leader said, "This place would be so much better off with a few strategically planned bombings." :slaphappy

Is this the purpose of this thread???

OGIA 04-19-2007 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 81293)
Is this the purpose of this thread???

You tell me.

nathan_slatter 04-19-2007 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OGIA (Post 81291)
As one mafia leader said, "This place would be so much better off with a few strategically planned bombings." :slaphappy

I thought that was Bush.... :slaphappy

OGIA 04-19-2007 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by nathan_slatter (Post 81301)
I thought that was Bush.... :slaphappy

The diff being...........? :toofunny

revrandy 04-19-2007 02:53 PM

Unless I'm mistaken Jesus used something called a Parable to bring life applicable lessons to folks... I like to read them...

SDG 04-19-2007 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 81310)
Unless I'm mistaken Jesus used something called a Parable to bring life applicable lessons to folks... I like to read them...

Parables are based on biblical principles ... this anti-tv stance is extrabiblical .... unless you include other "inns" that affect our spirit .... or other mediums used to spread the gospel.

Ferd 04-19-2007 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 81293)
Is this the purpose of this thread???


of course the kabal of moderate to somewhat conservitive smarmy posters (we left PP out on this one) got together and decided to use a little mind control and scare you libs outta here and get the weak minded to do our bidding!

revrandy 04-19-2007 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 81317)
Parables are based on biblical principles ... this anti-tv stance is extrabiblical .... unless you include other "inns" that affect our spirit .... or other mediums used to spread the gospel.

Jesus said... No man can serve two masters.. you cleave to one or the other...

Depending on who is Master in your life or can become your master will be what directs your children's future... if you set the Master before them.. they will grow up knowing him or whatever else becomes god in your life.. because it becomes your master of time... expense..and everything else..

There is a Biblical Principle set... in the story.. what Man enjoyed overode his responsibility to his family.. it dulled his senses to what was necessary for his kid's life... thereby enslaving him to it... and in the end.. he was right back where he started from... in the INN...

I think we forget that our kids grow up...

nathan_slatter 04-19-2007 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 81322)
Jesus said... No man can serve two masters.. you cleave to one or the other...

Depending on who is Master in your life or can become your master will be what directs your children's future... if you set the Master before them.. they will grow up knowing him or whatever else becomes god in your life.. because it becomes your master of time... expense..and everything else..

There is a Biblical Principle set... in the story.. what Man enjoyed overode his responsibility to his family.. it dulled his senses to what was necessary for his kid's life... thereby enslaving him to it... and in the end.. he was right back where he started from... in the INN...

I think we forget that our kids grow up...

But is only the INN if one allows it to control them... otherwise it is mere entertainment. :D

AGAPE 04-19-2007 03:11 PM

danny boy o danny boy

who did hinder you???

nathan_slatter 04-19-2007 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGAPE (Post 81326)
danny boy o danny boy

who did hinder you???

who = what

The minutia often hinders me.

SDG 04-19-2007 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 81322)
Jesus said... No man can serve two masters.. you cleave to one or the other...

Depending on who is Master in your life or can become your master will be what directs your children's future... if you set the Master before them.. they will grow up knowing him or whatever else becomes god in your life.. because it becomes your master of time... expense..and everything else..

There is a Biblical Principle set... in the story.. what Man enjoyed overode his responsibility to his family.. it dulled his senses to what was necessary for his kid's life... thereby enslaving him to it... and in the end.. he was right back where he started from... in the INN...

I think we forget that our kids grow up...

if this is the point of your PARABLE ... THAN the Inn should've have been a broader concept .... like unwholesome amusements ... rather than item-specific ....

SDG 04-19-2007 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AGAPE (Post 81326)
danny boy o danny boy

who did hinder you???

Maybe my Apostolic father did ... who owned a TV.

revrandy 04-19-2007 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 81344)
if this is the point of your PARABLE ... THAN the Inn should've have been a broader concept .... like unwholesome amusements ... rather than item-specific ....

I am sorry you were offended for Television's sake.. :tiphat

SDG 04-19-2007 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 81348)
I am sorry you were offended for Television's sake.. :tiphat

I'm offended for the millions of Apostolic TV owners who are manipulated by a heretical few ...

revrandy 04-19-2007 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 81351)
I'm offended for the millions of Apostolic TV owners who are manipulated by a heretical few ...

uh huh.... :slaphappy

SDG 04-19-2007 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 81354)
uh huh.... :slaphappy

Are you claiming the numbers in our movement are over-exaggerated?

revrandy 04-19-2007 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 81356)
Are you claiming the numbers in our movement are over-exaggerated?

I'm claiming you are taking Evangelistical Liberties with your Numbers..


and we all know only Evangelists are allowed Evangelistical Liberties!!!! :D

SDG 04-19-2007 03:44 PM

Let's look at the numbers ... let's take the 3 million plus the UPCI is reporting and the 5 million or more the AWCF claims ... plus the million reported by PAW ... not including the other independents ...

We can safely assume that 60% to 80% have a tv in their homes .... so YES .... MILLIONS

OGIA 04-19-2007 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 81366)
Let's look at the numbers ... let's take the 3 million plus the UPCI is reporting and the 5 million or more the AWCF claims ... plus the million reported by PAW ... not including the other independents ...

We can safely assume that 60% to 80% have a tv in their homes .... so YES .... MILLIONS

Where's the manipulation come in?

SDG 04-19-2007 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OGIA (Post 81373)
Where's the manipulation come in?

Does this word hinder you????

OGIA 04-19-2007 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 81374)
Does this word hinder you????

No. So, where's the manipulation come in?

SDG 04-19-2007 03:52 PM

The reality is ... this... gentlEmen ... more Apostolics own TV's than those that don't ... I guess your parable is 'non-Apostolic'
'

SDG 04-19-2007 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OGIA (Post 81378)
No. So, where's the manipulation come in?

OGIA ... the parable is SATURATED WITH MANIPULATION ... that you call TRUTH.

revrandy 04-19-2007 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 81366)
Let's look at the numbers ... let's take the 3 million plus the UPCI is reporting and the 5 million or more the AWCF claims ... plus the million reported by PAW ... not including the other independents ...

We can safely assume that 60% to 80% have a tv in their homes .... so YES .... MILLIONS

Dan...

A couple things I have learned of late...

I can't live for God by what others do...
I can only live for Him the best I know how...
I can only affect those that God has given me..
whether they be few or many...

and if God speaks to me concerning something in my life and my family's than I had better listen..

Many times as a minister God speaks to you and you preach from your own experiance...

I wrote this story this morning because God was speaking to me and I thought I would share...

That's all... No agenda... No manipulation... just sharing something God had given me...

You can apply how you'd like... or not apply it..

That's your decision...

SDG 04-19-2007 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 81383)
Dan...

A couple things I have learned of late...

I can't live for God by what others do...
I can only live for Him the best I know how...
I can only affect those that God has given me..
whether they be few or many...

and if God speaks to me concerning something in my life and my family's than I had better listen..

Many times as a minister God speaks to you and you preach from your own experiance...

I wrote this story this morning because God was speaking to me and I thought I would share...

That's all... No agenda... No manipulation... just sharing something God had given me...

You can apply how you'd like... or not apply it..

That's your decision...

I like your story ... it's pungent if applied to all things that can strip a family from focusing on God ... but it appears to be a blatant attempt to advance a personal agenda of a select few.... IMHO

Old Paths 04-19-2007 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 81380)
The reality is ... this... gentlEmen ... more Apostolics own TV's than those that don't ... I guess your parable is 'non-Apostolic'
'



Thank God, only in your tiny world.

warrior81680 04-19-2007 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 81385)
I like your story ... it's pungent if applied to all things that can strip a family from focusing on God ... but it appears to be a blatant attempt to advance a personal agenda of a select few.... IMHO

Get a life, DA.

This is the FIRST TIME I have ever seen revrandy write on the subject like he has.

Give the man his due.

He wrote something that is obviously bothering you.

That is part of his point. Why write if not to cause to think?

Old Paths 04-19-2007 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 81361)
I'm claiming you are taking Evangelistical Liberties with your Numbers..


and we all know only Evangelists are allowed Evangelistical Liberties!!!! :D



HEY!

LOOK OUT THERE, Brother!!!!



:slaphappy

Old Paths 04-19-2007 04:05 PM

The squeaking wheel always gets the grease.


:D

OGIA 04-19-2007 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Paths (Post 81391)
The squeaking wheel always gets the grease.

What it really needs is some oil!!


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