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Rico 05-31-2007 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Lost (Post 135431)
Its simple minds like you that lead to problems in the church today.

Denial of what happens in reality isn't going to make it go away.

Deal with it or go crawl back under your rock, Jekyll

:club

Wow. That was a bit mean spirited there, Lost.

Theresa 05-31-2007 11:35 AM

I left last night

I had to go to the bathroom


I came back

Jekyll 05-31-2007 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost (Post 135417)
What am I reaching for? The truth of reality.

Sometimes we don't face it enough.

:tiphat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost (Post 135431)
Its simple minds like you that lead to problems in the church today.

Denial of what happens in reality isn't going to make it go away.

Deal with it or go crawl back under your rock, Jekyll

:club

This whole forum is about trying (hopefully) to find and exhibit truth, and yes most don't fac it enough...you were just stating the obvious...that's why I viewed it as soft.

If you think I have a simple mind, you haven't really read most of my posts...here, let me help you out

- click on my name
- click on the "find all posts by this user" link
- feel free to browse and disagree

Jekyll 05-31-2007 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 135463)
Wow. That was a bit mean spirited there, Lost.

Thanks, Rico

philjones 05-31-2007 11:42 AM

Just a point of information regarding D&G.. the last time I played with them at Bro. Fauss' church, Rayborn and Clayborn were both on extended fasts and could hardly speak without weeping and speaking in tongues.

I have not followed the journey they have taken other than I know that their pastor took another road and they may have been a bit disillusioned by it all. I assure you that all of my experiences with them were very positive and very anointed!

Chewy 05-31-2007 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jekyll (Post 135475)
This whole forum is about trying (hopefully) to find and exhibit truth, and yes most don't fac it enough...you were just stating the obvious...that's why I viewed it as soft.

If you think I have a simple mind, you haven't really read most of my posts...here, let me help you out

- click on my name
- click on the "find all posts by this user" link
- feel free to browse and disagree

Really?

Coonskinner 05-31-2007 11:50 AM

I did once.

I left, and gathered up a young man and his wife who attended a friend of mine's church while I was at it.

I knew his pastor wouldn't want him staying. If I called his name, most of you would know him, as he has become very prominent in recent years.

The speaker was supposedly "operating in the spirit," but I didn't like what I was feeling, and decided to get out of there pronto.

Jekyll 05-31-2007 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue Waters (Post 135494)
Really?

Well yeah, maybe that was a little overstated and a bit facetious

ILG 05-31-2007 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hegavmelif (Post 135319)
One poster asked, "What do you have to gain from this post?" In the business world we always have a devil's advocate because he helps us see things from a different perspective. It is that perspective that helps us prepare a response to the worst case scenarios. So many of our people are passive/aggressive and don't allow themselves to think critically. You know, like, how can we make this the best possible experience for all those who attend our services. After all, aren't we in the people business?

Very good points Hega.

Rhoni 05-31-2007 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Coonskinner (Post 135497)
I did once.

I left, and gathered up a young man and his wife who attended a friend of mine's church while I was at it.

I knew his pastor wouldn't want him staying. If I called his name, most of you would know him, as he has become very prominent in recent years.

The speaker was supposedly "operating in the spirit," but I didn't like what I was feeling, and decided to get out of there pronto.

There was a service that I wanted to walk out of...it was being preached by a prominent minister. The only reason I didn't because I was visiting with a friend and I didn't want to be rude.

The preacher preached that he hoped and prayed that the church a block from his would burn to the ground. The church [I will not say the denomination] was one of the few churches that promote family values and return to Biblical truths and advertise heavily through all media types. My thoughts were that if any visitors were from that denomination they would be offended and NEVER saved because of one man's ignorance.

The second thing he preached in the same sermon was that a 16 year old girl got up during a service to go to the restroom and that she was abducted from the church foyer, taken behind the church and raped. He blamed her for wearing a slit in her skirt and used it as a jumping off point for rigid dress standards. This also I thought to be an ignorant statement because we all know that if lust is in the heart of a person that nothing a person wears or doesn't wear instigates his predatory mind.

I have purposed in my heart never to sit through another ignorant sermon, such as was preached by this ignorant man, no matter what his name or rank...:haloplug

Blessings, Rhoni

crakjak 05-31-2007 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by philjones (Post 135479)
Just a point of information regarding D&G.. the last time I played with them at Bro. Fauss' church, Rayborn and Clayborn were both on extended fasts and could hardly speak without weeping and speaking in tongues.

I have not followed the journey they have taken other than I know that their pastor took another road and they may have been a bit disillusioned by it all. I assure you that all of my experiences with them were very positive and very anointed!

Went to their meeting in Richardson, TX, at a UPC church, about 7-8 years ago, from all observation they still have the same Spirit about them. It was loud and my teenagers loved them. I now prefer quiet and sweet. The group had changed some members, but still very worshipful, glorifying of God.

Were you in Plano when AM had them in the school auditorium? That was quite an eye opening experience, my very conservative dad, much to my surprise spoke well of them. Their pastor was still traveling with them at that time.

crakjak 05-31-2007 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 135548)
There was a service that I wanted to walk out of...it was being preached by a prominent minister. The only reason I didn't because I was visiting with a friend and I didn't want to be rude.

The preacher preached that he hoped and prayed that the church a block from his would burn to the ground. The church [I will not say the denomination] was one of the few churches that promote family values and return to Biblical truths and advertise heavily through all media types. My thoughts were that if any visitors were from that denomination they would be offended and NEVER saved because of one man's ignorance.

The second thing he preached in the same sermon was that a 16 year old girl got up during a service to go to the restroom and that she was abducted from the church foyer, taken behind the church and raped. He blamed her for wearing a slit in her skirt and used it as a jumping off point for rigid dress standards. This also I thought to be an ignorant statement because we all know that if lust is in the heart of a person that nothing a person wears or doesn't wear instigates his predatory mind.

I have purposed in my heart never to sit through another ignorant sermon, such as was preached by this ignorant man, no matter what his name or rank...:haloplug

Blessings, Rhoni


I try to do like RD suggested and avoid such settings. I believe I would have to walk out on that one.

RevDWW 05-31-2007 12:39 PM

It was walk out or commit a grave social error! :lol

Pragmatist 05-31-2007 12:49 PM

I've sat through a few sermons while cringing and wanting to leave, but I'm just too polite. I have left momentarily when the music was too loud; I don't consider that walking out of a service, though.

LaVonne 05-31-2007 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 135607)
It was walk out or commit a grave socail error! :lol

When I first read this respose, I read it as Socali...and I got to wondering what a Socali error was! :heeheehee

RevDWW 05-31-2007 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CareyM (Post 135649)
When I first read this respose, I read it as Socali...and I got to wondering what a Socali error was! :heeheehee

My lisdeyxia must be kicking in.................:heeheehee

Lost 05-31-2007 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jekyll (Post 135476)
Thanks, Rico

I'm glad that someone was willing to stick up for you. :waving

Lost 05-31-2007 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico (Post 135463)
Wow. That was a bit mean spirited there, Lost.

I didn't think it was too extreme; I was responding to Jekyll's critical statement.

OP_Carl 05-31-2007 03:15 PM

More than I should have, I'm sure.
 
I have walked out of the service a couple of times while visiting churches for the first time after a long distance relocation. Usually because something seemed "off."

I walked out of my present church on a Wednesday evening. I was unaware that we were having a song service instead of bible study. The visiting musical "ministers" were lip-synching. They went on and on, and they were awful. I probably was there for 3/4 of it. I looked at my wife, she looked at me, and we agreed enough was enough. We's gonna grab the kids and scoot, I get up at 5 am, ya'll.

I walked out of a church that I was a fairly long term member of when a "special" altar call was made during the middle of the service. Some context is necessary. A local girl had gone missing. A massive manhunt ensued. We prayed and fasted and contributed to fundraisers. Weeks later, her body was found. Her rapist/murderer confessed that he did it because she had inadvertently stumbled across his meth lab. I don't know why, but these events caused fear to grip my pastor and he wanted to have an altar call wherein we would pray for certain specific protections. The Holy Ghost told my wife and I simultaneously to get out NOW. We grabbed the kids and scooted.

I pray for this sort of protection for my family every day. My daughter is too young to receive an explanation that this sort of evil exists. The God I serve can protect her and us without a special altar call wherein she learns what evils specifically she may now develop fears of.

tv1a 05-31-2007 03:25 PM

Ohio Camps are notorious for half the crowd loitering outside during the preaching. I've been to many district camps where you couldn't hear the preaching in the back because of the chatter on campus. What's sickening is the some of the most serious offenders 10-15 years ago are now running the show today...

Barb 05-31-2007 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lost (Post 135235)
My question is partially inspired by this post. I recently spoke with a friend of mine who walked out of a service after a guest speaker broke the one hour mark in his message, when according to my friend "could have said it in 20 minutes."

Have you ever walked out of a service?
If so, for what reason and would you do it again if given the same chance?

Yes...

Neck 05-31-2007 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost (Post 135235)
My question is partially inspired by this post. I recently spoke with a friend of mine who walked out of a service after a guest speaker broke the one hour mark in his message, when according to my friend "could have said it in 20 minutes."

Have you ever walked out of a service? If so, for what reason and would you do it again if given the same chance?

Several times when the minister must have watched TD Jakes or Rod Parsley and started to blurt their sermon.

I have not done it at the church I now attend.

We spend more time preparing a song that will be sung to take up the offering then some pastor's spend preparing a good sermon.

They believe throw the word out and it will work no matter the trite sermon they preach.

My leaving was like leaving a baseball game in the 9th inning when your team is down 10 runs.

Rhoni 05-31-2007 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tv1a (Post 135834)
Ohio Camps are notorious for half the crowd loitering outside during the preaching. I've been to many district camps where you couldn't hear the preaching in the back because of the chatter on campus. What's sickening is the some of the most serious offenders 10-15 years ago are now running the show today...

Dear TV,

You know how kids are...they act like they are not listening when they really are. They were out talking in the back trying to find husbands and wives....now that they have a helpmeet...they can minister;)!:heeheehee

Blessings, Rhoni

Rev Dooley 05-31-2007 06:01 PM

I walked out of a service once. It was because of a song that was sung that promoted trinity. It was supposed to be Men's Conference in Tioga, LA.

Hoovie 05-31-2007 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyImportant (Post 136075)
I walked out of a service once. It was because of a song that was sung that promoted trinity. It was supposed to be Men's Conference in Tioga, LA.

:sshhh

Song title.... pretty please?

Thad 05-31-2007 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyImportant (Post 136075)
I walked out of a service once. It was because of a song that was sung that promoted trinity. It was supposed to be Men's Conference in Tioga, LA.


oneness? UPC ??

now, you're not talking about the song "holy holy holy" that they changed the lyrics to are you ??


I have walked out on a few services once in chicago at a conference(not upc) and a few other times but very very few.

freeatlast 05-31-2007 06:49 PM

Walked out of a church in Kentucky years ago. Shockamoooooo was over the top.....then they started to have folks testify. When those testifiy began to preach and carry on I nudged my young bride and said follow me. I headed for the door.

Rev Dooley 05-31-2007 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 136079)
:sshhh

Song title.... pretty please?

No, I won't post it. I don't feel like being trashed tonight for my conservative viewpoint. Not saying that you will do this, but ...

Michlow 05-31-2007 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CareyM (Post 135252)
Yes, we did once. Years ago there at Camp Meeting, I don't even know who was preaching and wasn't too impressed either. Anyway, we had a baby and a toddler and they were tired and it was miserably hot, so we got up and left even though the preacher said not too.

*Gasp*

Rebellious Sinner!!!

Hesetmefree238 05-31-2007 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyImportant (Post 136149)
No, I won't post it. I don't feel like being trashed tonight for my conservative viewpoint. Not saying that you will do this, but ...

Oh, come on!!! We want to know what song is sung in our services that
promotes a trinity

pob406 05-31-2007 07:49 PM

I left when the preacher started glorifying flesh and saying that a husband is a priest of the home. Where is that in the Bible? People give can give you an explanation as long as the Gettysburg Address. Yet they don't actually have any Bible to back it up.

Rhoni 05-31-2007 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pob406 (Post 136211)
I left when the preacher started glorifying flesh and saying that a husband is a priest of the home. Where is that in the Bible? People give can give you an explanation as long as the Gettysburg Address. Yet they don't actually have any Bible to back it up.

:popcorn2:girlnails

Theresa 05-31-2007 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hesetmefree238 (Post 136201)
Oh, come on!!! We want to know what song is sung in our services that
promotes a trinity

:sing "God in three persons......Bleeeeessssssed TTTTRRRRRRRRIIIIIINNNNNNNIIITTTTTTTTYYYYYY"

Rhoni 05-31-2007 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Theresa (Post 136232)
:sing "God in three persons......Bleeeeessssssed TTTTRRRRRRRRIIIIIINNNNNNNIIITTTTTTTTYYYYYY"

I just love that song:heeheehee

tv1a 05-31-2007 08:34 PM

They were waiting for Bible College to find a helpmeet. Those guys knew they were getting daddy's church when they got older. Not much sweat and tears with that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 136016)
Dear TV,

You know how kids are...they act like they are not listening when they really are. They were out talking in the back trying to find husbands and wives....now that they have a helpmeet...they can minister;)!:heeheehee

Blessings, Rhoni


ChTatum 05-31-2007 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tv1a (Post 136241)
They were waiting for Bible College to find a helpmeet. Those guys knew they were getting daddy's church when they got older. Not much sweat and tears with that.

Thank God for the blood.

Hoovie 05-31-2007 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyImportant (Post 136149)
No, I won't post it. I don't feel like being trashed tonight for my conservative viewpoint. Not saying that you will do this, but ...

B B-But... I will do it in love! Please...???

Coonskinner 05-31-2007 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 136233)
I just love that song:heeheehee

Please tell me you're joking.

"God in Christ Jesus, blessed unity" is what I mentally plug in when I hear that song somewhere.

ThePastorsCoach 05-31-2007 09:48 PM

Perfect Hate!
 
My very first "Apostolic" Conference was at Pastor Billy Adams church in Pensacola, FL. I would say it was about 1982 - 83. I had no idea what an AMF was and I took my youth pastor with me and we showed up in SHORT SLEEVES! :heeheehee
I had NEVER heard it was something we should not do!!!!!!!! It was funny when I found out that they did not believe in short sleeves or SUNGLASSES!!!!! We could not get over them actually believing this!

We went to a day service where Pastor James Varnum (in his Independent days) of Bellview, FL spoke on Soul winning and called the message "Perfect Love". He shared how that his people were teaching HBS and a 12 year old boy had taught a HBS and won a whole family to Souls Harbor. We thought it was so great - we were actually there from his invitation to attend. It was a very edifying message to win the lost!

Well - Pastor Varnum sat down and a Brother "C" got up and said - well, we have heard about this PERFECT LOVE - but today I am gonna preach on "PERFECT HATE". He got all wound up - being so critical of Pastor Varnum and his "big house" and "big fine car" and ranting and raving and said - there is no such thing as Home Bible Studies in the Bible and he had never heard the such of a 12 year old boy teaching anybody anything. He lam blasted everything and everybody there and then started pounding the pulpit - screaming - PERFECT HATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HATE SINNERS - You may say - Oh NO - Brother "C" - You don't hate the sinners - you hate the sin! He then screamed LOUDER than ever - "I HATE THE NASTY FILTHY ROTTEN UNGODLY SINNERS - GOD HATES THEM AND SO DO I"!!!!
At that - I got up and said to the young man with me - "I have heard enough of this - Let's Go!" We got up - picked up our Bibles and walked out and never went back.
I walked out and would walk out again.

Hoovie 05-31-2007 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop (Post 136314)
My very first "Apostolic" Conference was at Pastor Billy Adams church in Pensacola, FL. I would say it was about 1982 - 83. I had no idea what an AMF was and I took my youth pastor with me and we showed up in SHORT SLEEVES! :heeheehee
I had NEVER heard it was something we should not do!!!!!!!! It was funny when I found out that they did not believe in short sleeves or SUNGLASSES!!!!! We could not get over them actually believing this!

We went to a day service where Pastor James Varnum (in his Independent days) of Bellview, FL spoke on Soul winning and called the message "Perfect Love". He shared how that his people were teaching HBS and a 12 year old boy had taught a HBS and won a whole family to Souls Harbor. We thought it was so great - we were actually there from his invitation to attend. It was a very edifying message to win the lost!

Well - Pastor Varnum sat down and a Brother "C" got up and said - well, we have heard about this PERFECT LOVE - but today I am gonna preach on "PERFECT HATE". He got all wound up - being so critical of Pastor Varnum and his "big house" and "big fine car" and ranting and raving and said - there is no such thing as Home Bible Studies in the Bible and he had never heard the such of a 12 year old boy teaching anybody anything. He lam blasted everything and everybody there and then started pounding the pulpit - screaming - PERFECT HATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HATE SINNERS - You may say - Oh NO - Brother "C" - You don't hate the sinners - you hate the sin! He then screamed LOUDER than ever - "I HATE THE NASTY FILTHY ROTTEN UNGODLY SINNERS - GOD HATES THEM AND SO DO I"!!!!
At that - I got up and said to the young man with me - "I have heard enough of this - Let's Go!" We got up - picked up our Bibles and walked out and never went back.
I walked out and would walk out again.


I wish I could just take your word on this..... I need a tape. I could put it in a "care package" for visitors.... the possibilities are endless.


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